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      robbyr
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      What is the point in a referee apologising
      Aug 16, 2009 08:13:27 pm
      The Neil Warnocks team incident was a bloody disgrace
      The ball clearly went in the net (in and out)and yet the goal was never awarded.
      The ref apologised but still his team received no points.
      The game needs changing, the rules are all wrong, the match should be replayed
      What does everybody think, after we were robbed today by a similarly stupid ref, oh and what is the point in an apology when it is clearly unfair, and the team have been disadvantaged for the rest of the season, its a gross injustice, even if I dont like the feller.
      « Last Edit: Aug 16, 2009 08:25:07 pm by smigger15 »
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      Re: What is the point in a referee apologising
      Reply #1: Aug 16, 2009 08:15:26 pm
      I can see your point, but I guess that's all they can do. Once the game is over, it's pretty much over.

      That goal yesterday though, can't put it into words. If that was a goal that Liverpool had scored, today for example, I don't know what I'd do.
      « Last Edit: Aug 16, 2009 08:25:23 pm by smigger15 »
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      Re: What is the point in a referee apologising
      Reply #2: Aug 16, 2009 08:23:55 pm
      Goal line decision just scream out for video technology but the ones who run football don't seem too interested in making the change but rather would employ more refs to mess up the call.

      As far as other calls well reality is that is the way it goes and for me anyway I found now a days managers tend to use refs as a scapegoat for a poor result.
      « Last Edit: Aug 16, 2009 08:25:47 pm by smigger15 »
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      Re: What is the point in a referee apologising
      Reply #3: Aug 16, 2009 08:24:53 pm
      When refs miss the kind of things like that goal yesterday they should be sacked. And kicked in the bollocks.
      « Last Edit: Aug 16, 2009 08:25:59 pm by smigger15 »
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      Re: What is the point in a referee apologising
      Reply #4: Aug 16, 2009 08:27:55 pm
      The above just emphases the need for video technology like Hawkeye at Wimbledon. The people who run football won't have the bottle to introduce it though
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      Re: What is the point in a referee apologising
      Reply #5: Aug 16, 2009 09:29:40 pm
      They say it would ruin the flow of a game but injuries do that the whole time. These incidents don't occur that often in a game and like rubgy, cricket and tennis I think it would add to the excitement.
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      Re: What is the point in a referee apologising
      Reply #6: Aug 16, 2009 09:42:54 pm
      It's Warnocks team, :lmao: F**k him.

      Congratulate the Ref IMO

      Plus Bristol had a perfectly good goal ruled out for offside.
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      Re: What is the point in a referee apologising
      Reply #7: Aug 16, 2009 09:53:43 pm
      As funny as it was because it was Warnock it's ridiculous.

      You could tell from the players reactions it was a goal (oh and the fact that the ball went in to the net!)

      The referee deserves to be suspended.
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      Re: What is the point in a referee apologising
      Reply #8: Aug 16, 2009 10:10:45 pm
      The referee and his assistant were on TV earlier defending their decision and performance.

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      Re: What is the point in a referee apologising
      Reply #9: Aug 16, 2009 10:35:45 pm
      omg
      i even feel sorry for NW here, they should have cushions at the back of the goal...he he

      Its a bloody disgrace though, the Bristol manager should have admitted it though. What is it coming to, its making the game and the officialdom a laughing stock, and in legal terms its bringing the game into disrispute

      Crystal Palace disallowed goal (With Warnock interview)
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      Re: What is the point in a referee apologising
      Reply #10: Aug 16, 2009 10:40:23 pm
      What was the final score? Maybe they should replay the game. There is precedent.
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      Re: What is the point in a referee apologising
      Reply #11: Aug 16, 2009 10:44:41 pm
      Ee-ar:

      Football: Replay `sets dangerous precedent'

      By Nick harris and Alan Nixon

      Monday, 15 February 1999

      AS THE country's most senior referee said yesterday that the rescheduling of Saturday's FA Cup match between Arsenal and Sheffield United had set "a very dangerous precedent", it emerged that an incident very similar to Saturday's occurred a fortnight ago and an "ungentlemanly" goal on that occasion had been disallowed.

      During a Second Division match between Wrexham and Preston, the referee, Brian Coddington, dropped the ball near the half-way line to restart the game after an injury. Wrexham's Jeff Whitley promptly lobbed it into Preston's net from over 50 yards, but Coddington immediately ruled it out and gave a goal-kick.

      "It was obviously wrong to allow the goal, it was an absolute fluke," Coddington said yesterday. "In the spirit of the law, we had to re-start the game and cancel the goal. I thought straight away `this is not right', and the players did too. In the end, we all had a good laugh. It was 4- 0 to Preston at the time, but I could not let the goal stand as there is a spirit of the law as well as the letter of the law."

      Philip Don, the Premier League referees' spokesman, said of the decision to replay Saturday's match: "A very dangerous precedent has been set. The referee is there to control a game according to the rules, which state that whoever scores the most goals wins. Whatever one may think about the rights and wrongs of what happened, no laws were broken when the goal was scored."

      Of Marc Overmars' goal, which put Arsenal 2-1 ahead following a throw- in intended for United's goalkeeper, Alan Kelly, Don added: "I've heard plenty of people say what Peter Jones [Saturday's referee] should have done, but under the laws of the game he did exactly what he had to do. Nobody seems to be talking about the conduct of the players."

      The FA confirmed yesterday that the bookings and goals from Saturday's Highbury match will stand for disciplinary and statistical purposes, but the controversy over the incident shows few signs of abating. The Blades' Independent supporters' association said it will appeal for the re-match to be played at Bramall Lane, and the Football Supporters' Association called on Arsenal to sell tickets for the reorganised game at heavily subsidised rates to fans who attended on Saturday.

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      Re: What is the point in a referee apologising
      Reply #12: Aug 16, 2009 10:44:41 pm
      Just watched that again.

      It's so bad it's starting to become quite funny actually.
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      Re: What is the point in a referee apologising
      Reply #13: Aug 16, 2009 10:58:25 pm
      To replay or not replay.
      Well when its an incident so blatantly obvious, there should be a replay.
      As far as sportsman ship goes, there should be a common sense rule, that says "do the common sense thing", look at a replay for very obviously contraversial and vital decisions (like goals that werent or were)
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      Re: What is the point in a referee apologising
      Reply #14: Aug 17, 2009 12:56:33 am
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      Re: What is the point in a referee apologising
      Reply #15: Aug 17, 2009 09:03:14 am
      It's Warnocks team, :lmao: F**k him.

      Congratulate the Ref IMO

      Plus Bristol had a perfectly good goal ruled out for offside.

      true but it was an awful decision. would have loved to see BC give a goal back in return. wonder if Warnock will get
      in trouble for saying the ref should be banned for a year.
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      Re: What is the point in a referee apologising
      Reply #16: Aug 17, 2009 09:25:49 pm

      Good to see that w**ker Dunc missing a good chance, shame the pr**k couldn't of stayed at Dundee.

      And that goal against Palace, while looking a very bad decision, couldn't of happened to a bigger gobs***e.

      At least it gave Colin w**ker the chance to do what he does best!
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      Re: What is the point in a referee apologising
      Reply #17: Aug 17, 2009 10:52:53 pm
      The ref and his assistants have been suspended, I await more news and a harsher sentence, erm and a replay, as Palace lost 1 -0
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      Re: What is the point in a referee apologising
      Reply #18: Aug 17, 2009 11:00:20 pm
      Think the game would have less of all this was it, is it, why wasn't crap if there were no officials :D

      Think it's a bit lenient the punishments the officals get though, if any that is. 1 or 2 games without officiating is pathetic, should be banned for the rest of the season.
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      Re: What is the point in a referee apologising
      Reply #19: Aug 17, 2009 11:26:16 pm
      All we need is hawkeye for each goal to monitor if a ball goes over the line, that's it, even so many linesmen these days are sh*te and don't know the rules. The rest can be left to the bent referees to ponder, whether to give a card or a penalty etc, you'll always get right and wrong decisions, just gotta keep on going at it.
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      Re: What is the point in a referee apologising
      Reply #20: Aug 19, 2009 11:01:10 am
      What is the point in referees apologising? its all well and good if the apology is concerned with passing wind on the field of play or forgetting to wear his shorts, nobody would be too worried but when it is about bad judgement and human error that could have far reaching implications it is unforgivable. An incorrect ruling on a penalty (and some teams get more than others) could affect a teams progress in any league, European competition or world cup football .
      What I am saying is that refereeing has got to be consistently 100% correct or at least 99.5%, the only way to achieve this end is by using technology and get rid of the back scratching organisation we have in place presently.
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      Re: What is the point in a referee apologising
      Reply #21: Aug 25, 2009 07:14:24 pm
      When refs miss the kind of things like that goal yesterday they should be sacked. And kicked in the bollocks.

      Correct.

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