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      Re: RTK - Reclaim the Kop
      Reply #23: Jan 03, 2007 01:17:17 pm
      Another update from the Liverpool FC website...
      http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N154557070102-1508.htm

       
      Some of you just may have heard, about the RTK
      Then some of you may not have yet, so it's time to have our say
      RTK, just 3 letters, but means a thousand things
      From banners, flags and attitude, to all the songs we sing
       
      It's all about the spirit, the spirit of the Kop
      Reclaim our terrace culture, that put us at the top
      Most knowledgeable fans throughout the world is how we once were known
      But is that a reputation that we have now outgrown?
       
      I'd like to think it wasn't, that we still show respect
      Sing songs different to all the rest, that's how it should be kept
      No Great Escape or Easy chants, that's not how we are seen
      Leave all that stuff to the ones that follow the national team
       
      Away fans stand and sing all game, ours sit there in a bore
      Then as one the muppets rise, “You’re not singing anymore”
      The irony is lost on them, new fans all seem the same
      Mocking those that sing while they’ve sat silent through the game
       
      If they sing anti-scouse songs, it’s rude to laugh along
      Remember who you’re sitting with, it’s just another song
      The same old tired insults, original ones are rare
      Sing something sharp back at them, don’t just sit and stare
       
      Our nation is called Liverpool, we belong in no other place
      But the shrine we know as Anfield, and Liverpool is our race
      Black or white, man or women, we all stand as one
      To support our club the way we know, as fans we've always shone
       
      We clap the other goalie, applaud the better side
      We're not just bums on seats you know, not just here for the ride
      We have a reputation, traditions we have earnt
      But some fans turn a blind eye, it’s about time they learnt
       
      What Liverpool fans all stand for, and why we're so concerned
      We don't throw away the standing, that older Kopites earned
      As our chairman once announced, the clubs exists in his hands
      "Only to win trophies and be a source of pride for its fans"
       
      The fans are the heartbeat, we all have our role
      To maintain the spirit and keep Liverpool's soul
      It's not just a game, or a day out with the wife
      Supporting our club is part of our life
       
      Respect the Reds that stood before, and passed the mantle on
      It's up to us to make them proud, as Liverpool we're one
      In '89 we lost our friends, it's time to sing out loud
      Reclaim The Kop where they once stood and make our Anfield proud




      And another update...

      http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N154563070103-1006.htm

      In October 2006 an impassioned plea was posted on a Liverpool FC internet forum regarding our support and from it sprung the RTK. Here is our mission statement.

      Reclaim The Kop banner

      It was no coincidence this came the morning after the Bordeaux home game in the Champions League. At this match sections of the Anfield crowd taunted 3,000 partizan Frenchmen with chants of "who are ya?", "eas-eh" and "you're not singing anymore". Seasoned heads were
      shook. It was embarrassing. These fans had welcomed travelling Reds for our away game, and here, at Anfield, we were ridiculing them. This is NOT the Liverpool Way.
       
      This was the breaking point; an indication of the depths to which some
      of our support has sunk. It was time to take a stand and speak out.
       
      Liverpool Football Club, and it's supporters, have been firmly at the
      forefront of football culture over the past 50 years. Anfield was the
      home of the world's most famous football terrace. The Spion Kop is a
      name known the world over.
       
      It was a terrace that had tv documentaries made about it over 40 years ago. A terrace captured on vinyl to become as hit album. A terrace 'sampled' on 60's rock albums. A terrace known all over Europe - inspiring supporters to imitate them; AC Milan fans directly acknowledge the influence of The Kop and brought out an album celebrating the fact. It was a terrace that created chants and songs
      that were copied across the land, and was famed for its biting sarcasm, wit and devotion.
       
      The Kop has long been a mighty vocal force for Liverpool FC. Players in the 30s and 40s have spoken about the noise the supporters could make. Bill Shankly brought his Huddersfield team to Anfield in 50s and told his own directors to "wait and hear the noise this crowd makes." The potential for something amazing was always there.
       
      This masse of humanity ultimately exploded into creativity in the early 1960s, and The Kop became more than just 28,000 souls packed onto a terrace, it became a living thing of its own. At the precise moment that 4 Liverpool boys became the most famous faces and voices on the planet, The Kop burst onto the national - and international - consciousness. The world quickly realised that this crowd was different; it had wit, it was creative, it had its own personality ... it had its own soul.
       
      "Brian Glanville claimed that prior to the 1966 World Cup in England the English crowds at Wembley had been notorious for the cool, quiet indifference. But the World Cup had galvanized them, and they employed the hand-clapping chants which had come to Britain from Brazil via Chile in the 62 world cup, to be reworked on the Spion Kop terrace of the Liverpool ground.
       
      "This mention of Liverpool introduces another major influence. During the 1960s when the chanting rituals first grew to epic proportions, the world of pop music was exploding in the cellars and clubs of Liverpool.
       
      "The epoch of the Beatles has arrived and Merseyside awoke to find itself a centre of popular culture. The young fans of the Liverpool soccer terraces proudly took their new songs with them to the matches and gave mass renditions of them before the games, as a way of saying 'We are the focus of today's music'. ... The scene was set for the merging of the different influences: the Victorian hymn singing, the Italian chanting, the South American clapping and shouting, and finally Beatlemania. They all came together on the sloping terraces of Liverpool's Spion Kop, and there a new tribal ritual was born, one which was to spread like wildfire from club to club across the land."
      (Desmond Morris - The Soccer Tribe)
       
      These early days were ultimately the most creative, but even well into
      the late 1970s The Kop was still a mighty original force; a source of
      inspiration. It became the melting pot for the assimilation of popular
      culture into football. Be it pop music, terrace chanting, fashions; we
      were pioneers in the British game. We borrowed ideas from crowds abroad and adapted them into our own culture, only to find the continentals then borrowing them back. We led from the front. We never followed.
       
      Kopite RTKTake a look now. The Kop is a sad shadow of it's former self. From such a unique position of grandeur it could be argued we are now merely a clone of any other English league team. Seating hasn't helped - but that's not the true cause. As recent magnificent European nights have shown us, The Kop can still be one of a handful of truly amazing football crowds in the world. However, there can be no denying that seating, and the subsequent break-up and dispersal of the hardcore who congregated between the 2 great roof stanchions, has helped to destroy the breeding ground of The Kop's distinct character.
       
      Of course it wasn't just the Bordeaux match that made us realise this.
      The majority of match goers have known this for a long time. And the
      "Reclaim The Kop" slogan wasn't created just on the basis of this
      original internet post. Some sort of campaign to rekindle the soul of
      The Kop had been discussed in various circles for a long time. The
      weekend following the Bordeaux game, after a public invitation was
      posted on the internet and in other circles, a group of disenchanted
      Reds met up in a city centre pub to discuss the current parlous state of affairs. Some of us knew each other, others didn't. Some were young, some slightly older; but all shared the same passion for The Kop, and of Anfield as a bastion of support. We had all come to the conclusion that something had to be done - the time for talking was over.
       
      The 'RTK' slogan seemed to suggest itself immediately - Reclaim the
      spirit of The Kop. Rekindle its energy and wit. Re-ignite its soul. Now a group of marketing experts might tell us differently, but we see it as the ideal clarion call for what are trying to achieve. At the time we had no manifesto, and 'RTK' was used as a teaser to get people talking and to make them aware that something was in the offing. We hope it is taken on board by people in the spirit in which it is offered.
       
      In the past supporters really did 'Get their education from The Kop'. We stood and smugly sang as much to fans from Manchester, Leeds, Birmingham and London. The Kop itself was a huge academy, wherein younger fans learnt songs and absorbed the culture; learning what was - and what wasn't - acceptable. On a terrace you had to arrive early to get the best 'spec'. And what better way to pass the hours to kick-off than learning the Kop's extensive repertoire of songs. New songs had to pass a rigorous and brutal audition. If your effort didn't pass muster it would be derided, you learned to bide your time and perfect your offering. Only when it was honed to perfection and you were confident in its quality would you dare offer it for consideration to your peers on The Kop.
       
      But times have changed. Most fans arrive inside the ground now 20
      minutes before kick-off. The old Kop academy is no more. New fans now get their education from the internet and from television. The creeping commercialisation of the game has seen a deliberate attempt to move it away from its roots, and market it as wacky family entertainment. But football isn't entertainment. It's not a night at the multiplex or a theme park. Football is at the very heart of who we are. It's not a commercial choice which team you support - at least it should never be with Liverpool. Glib tv shows like Sky's 'Soccer AM' portray fans as performing seals, dressed like Christmas trees and willing to be humiliated for a cheap laugh. You should never debase yourself by helping Sky to sell its sanitised version of the game to more and more subscribers. This is our game - not Rupert Murdochs. Football is better than that. Football has passion and football has soul. And unless we act soon that soul will be slowly eroded until we become mere spectators rather than supporters.
       
      But The Kop is now fighting back.
       
      With The Kop's traditional academy gone - our main priority must be the issue of 'education'. To try and counter the 'Soccer AM' effect, we are committed to providing an alternative source of influence. The 'Soccer AM' effect homogenises the game as it makes for a more manipulative market. Why try and deal with local issues, with specific differences when they can pretend that all football fans want the same things and will act the same way? The more they tell people "this is how it is", the more it seems to happen. Some would call it brainwashing. It's a marketing man's dream to have an audience thinking and behaving in an exactly similar and predictable manner:
       
      * Away fans chant their team's name? You bellow "Who are Yer? Who are
      Yer?".
      * Opposition shot goes wide? Stand up with your arms outstretched.
      * Your team scores? Chant "Eas-eh! Eas-eh!" and "You're not singing
      anymore"
       
      It's all so predictable; it's all so derivative; it's all so sad.
       
      The Kop became special because it was different. We can make it special again.
       
      The RTK aims are to promote The Kop's traditional values, its behaviour and it's songs. It aims to encourage fair play and respect towards the opposition; to promote The Kop's traditional songs and chants; to encourage wit and creativity; and it aims to rebuild the camaraderie and individuality of football's greatest terrace.
       
      For more songs, wit, wisdom and advice on suitable headgear stay logged on to liverpoolfc.tv or visit reclaimthekop.co.uk and raotl.co.uk
       
      The views of the RTK, including the Kop Charter, are just that and do not necessarily represent those of Liverpool Football Club.


      « Last Edit: Jan 03, 2007 01:18:10 pm by Court_LFC »
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      Re: RTK - Reclaim the Kop
      Reply #24: Jan 03, 2007 06:21:08 pm
      We sit in the Lower Centenary and usually there's a few around that will join in, its usually me that starts singing and a few join in around me.  I have me mum and me sister with me and they all sing as well.  Surprisingly its the women that start singing and all the blokes around start to join in  !!

      We used to go in the Kop regularly but me mums getting on a bit now and can't stand up for great lengths of time !!  So its into the seated areas now I'm afraid, anyway no matter were I sit I'll be singing, to be truthful,if your encouraging your team its hard not to sing, I love it    :D
      how long has the decline in atmosphere being happening mate,is it a gradual thing or has it just all of a sudden lost its soul.
      my personal opinion on it is,its up to the kop to get the rest of the stadium going,so if your not a shouter or a singer dont buy a ticket for the kop.
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      Reply #25: Jan 03, 2007 06:26:15 pm
      how long has the decline in atmosphere being happening mate,is it a gradual thing or has it just all of a sudden lost its soul.
      my personal opinion on it is,its up to the kop to get the rest of the stadium going,so if your not a shouter or a singer dont buy a ticket for the kop.

      I sit in the Lower Centenary and when you start singing, the crowd around you join in for a little while and then stand looking at the Kop like lemons !!    I love singing at the match, they dont know what they are missing the miserable buggars !  ;) ;D
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      Reply #26: Jan 03, 2007 06:57:58 pm
      I sit in the Lower Centenary and when you start singing, the crowd around you join in for a little while and then stand looking at the Kop like lemons !!    I love singing at the match, they dont know what they are missing the miserable buggars !  ;) ;D
      you need to get your self on to the kop mate,thats what we need on there,more people like yourself.
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      Reply #27: Jan 03, 2007 07:42:28 pm
      I also sit in the Lower Centenary, and I don't want to be left out so I am starting my own RTK! "Reclaim the Kemlyn Road" any one who wants to join me must wear a flat cloth cap to the Arsenal game and have plenty of stories of Billy Liddle to tell over a Brown Mild after the game!  ;)
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      Reply #28: Jan 03, 2007 09:16:27 pm
      you need to get your self on to the kop mate,thats what we need on there,more people like yourself.

      Used to sit/stand in the Kop mate, but me mum comes with us now and she cant stand for too long and cant see much when there's a goal imminent as she's a short-arse  ;) so have to go in Lower Centenary !!!   ;D
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      Reply #29: Jan 03, 2007 10:29:53 pm
      well then they should make yous the royal family of the kop and put a big comfy throne right behind the goal a few rows up,for your mam. ;D if shes anything like my mam shed really love that ;D
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      Reply #30: Jan 04, 2007 04:00:21 pm
      Today's update.  The words to Poor Scouser Tommy!  Surely everyone knows this

      The Liverpool song archive may be one of the most extensive in football but how many people actually know the words to all the famous LFC chants and anthems?

      With this in mind, a major part of our 10-week 'Kop Etiquette' series will be set aside to teach fans, via text and audio files, a selection of the finest Kop classics.
       
      We start off today with the ever popular 'Poor Scouser Tommy'.

      To play the audio file click on the relevant link below...
       
      Real Audio>>
       
      Windows Audio>>

      (Sung to the tune of "Red River Valley" and "The Sash")
       
      Let me tell you the story of a poor boy
      Who was sent far away from his home
      To fight for his king and his country
      And also the old folks back home
       
      So they put him in a Highland division
      Sent him off to a far foreign land
      Where the flies swarm around in their thousands
      And there's nothing to see but the sands
       
      In a battle that started next morning
      Under a Libyan S*n
      I remember that poor Scouser Tommy
      Who was shot by an old Nazi gun
       
      As he lay on the battle field dying (dying dying)
      With the blood gushing out of his head (of his head)
      As he lay on the battle field dying (dying dying)
      These were the last words he said...
       
      Oh...I am a Liverpudlian
      I come from the Spion Kop
      I like to sing, I like to shout
      I get thrown out quite a lot (every week)
       
      We support the team that's dressed in red
      A team that we all know
      A team that we call Liverpool
      And to glory we will go
       
      We've won the League, we've won the Cup
      We've been to Europe too
      We played the Toffees for a laugh
      And we left them feeling blue - Five Nil !
       
      One two
      One two three
      One two three four
      Five nil !
       
      Rush scored one
      Rush scored two
      Rush scored three
      And Rush scored four!
       
      All you need is Rush
      All you need is Rush
      All you need is Rush, Rush
      Rush is all you need
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      Reply #31: Jan 04, 2007 04:44:38 pm
      well then they should make yous the royal family of the kop and put a big comfy throne right behind the goal a few rows up,for your mam. ;D if shes anything like my mam shed really love that ;D

      She's love that mate !!   ;D
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      Reply #32: Jan 07, 2007 05:44:22 pm
      Let's hope the Kop kicks on from the emotional night last night. Can't see such an atmosphere being created against The Arse on Tuesday, but it would be nice to feel that people are realising that the Kop is renowned worldwide for it's atmosphere, and they can be apart of it again.
      Remember if you go on the Kop, create an atmosphere to make the opposion Sh1t themselves, it really does encourage our players.
      Sing out loud and sing out proud.
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      Reply #33: Jan 07, 2007 06:33:25 pm
      Maybe we lost on Saturday cos the reds aren't used to Anfield being so noisy. ;)

      We deffo need to keep it up.  I was out on my works' night out for the 'Fog' postponed games and all I saw in town that night was the 'Livershopped' up fans so I don't hold out much hope for a great atmosphere.

      Prove me wrong though.
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      Reply #34: Jan 07, 2007 07:42:23 pm

      More Liverpool gear on than tinsel on a Christmas tree, with 4 bags in each hand.
      Don't you just love em'.
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      Reply #35: Jan 07, 2007 08:05:40 pm
      Some pictures from Truth Day and a link to the video clip of the first 6 minutes of the Liverpool v Arsenal clash is in the Truth Day topic.
      http://www.lfcreds.com/reds/index.php/topic,1614.0.html
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      Reply #36: Jan 07, 2007 09:37:25 pm
      What an atmosphere, not just the Kop, but the whole ground against Arsenal. A little effort can rock Anfield.
      Here's what Wenger and Henry had to say about.

      Wenger said: "You can only admire the Liverpool fans. They kicked every ball for the team for the whole 90 minutes and were just fabulous. The club has a great support here."
       
      Star striker Henry, who netted the third goal which killed off any chances the Reds had of a late fightback, added: "I'm not sure what the fans were singing at the start of the game but when it stopped the noise they made meant no-one could hear what was going on on the pitch.
       
      "I have such respect for this ground and these supporters. What a place this is to play football."

      Let's keep up this atmosphere from now on.
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      Reply #37: Jan 07, 2007 09:39:02 pm
      did henry make a sign for us to shush after the 1st arsenal goal? i've been told that he did. if he did he is a F***ing c**t!
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      Reply #38: Jan 07, 2007 09:39:48 pm
      Is right, the difference it made with that kind of atmosphere, it was just like the Chelsea semi CL, it should be like that every game, do you think Terry is itching to get to Anfield then ?  ;)
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      Reply #39: Jan 07, 2007 09:43:35 pm
      Imagine what it will be like if we got an early goal against Chelsea  :o :o  :
      Never mind getting the Kop rocking, lets get the whole ground rocking  :angel:
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      Reply #40: Jan 07, 2007 09:44:37 pm
      when is the chelsea game?
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      Reply #41: Jan 07, 2007 09:46:12 pm
      20th this month
      12.45 k.o.
      live on sky  >:(
      « Last Edit: Jan 07, 2007 09:52:00 pm by mrtommo »
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      Reply #42: Jan 07, 2007 09:46:26 pm
      Thats the problem Tommo, i dont sit in the Kop but do Rock !!  Its all the other miserable buggars around who dont !!  You must see it yourself when you sit in the LC, like last night with them three divvies sitting in front of you  ;) ;D
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      Reply #43: Jan 08, 2007 07:14:14 pm
      Not sure if in correct thread, but,
      What a mosaic the Kop produced on Saturday. Stood in the pub with a load of mancs and I have never felt so proud to be a Liverpool supporter. Awesome, fantastic and well done to everyone. Justice.
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      Reply #44: Jan 08, 2007 09:26:59 pm
      Ive been to watch lfc a couple of times nt sat in the kop but when ive been there the kops atmosphere has been to say at least poor and at most average
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      Reply #45: Jan 09, 2007 09:34:07 am
      Ive been to watch lfc a couple of times nt sat in the kop but when ive been there the kops atmosphere has been to say at least poor and at most average

      Did you go Sat ?

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