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      Brian78
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      This seasons effects on next season
      May 11, 2009 01:17:30 pm
      Whether or not we win the title this season, and if were honest it is looking very unlikely now, I believe things that have occurred this season will stand us in good stead for a major assault on the title next year and probably for a few years after that.

      First off the mere fact that we are involved right to the end is a huge benefit. Only in 91 96 02 and 06 have we finished top 2 since we last won the title. Our squad will go into next year knowing what it takes to win a title something only a handful may have had some idea about this time around.

      The most important factor is Rafa signing his new deal and then tying up his backroom staff straight after. That gives stability and leaves the players in no doubt as to who they will be answering to when the season starts. There may have been some doubts a few weeks back in the players minds as to whether or not Rafa would be still here. Also Rafa could then focus on where he needs to strengthen and who he needs to strengthen the squad.

      Since we lost to Boro we have scored 33 goals in 9 games conceding only 6. 4 of those in 1 game. This shows Rafa is setting his team up far more attack minded. But despite our new found goal glut we have not become any less solid at the back. 2 defeats this season both of which were avoidable shows another positive. We aren't going to lose many so just turn those draws into wins and we will surely be in pole position.

      To turn those draws to wins might have been easier this year if we had Gerrard and Nando on the pitch together for more then 12 games! In those 12 games they scored 16 goals, what might have been! Surely these 2 wont be as unlucky next season with injury.

      Finally is the progression fringe/average players have made. The likes of Insua,Aurelio, Yossi and to a degree Lucas have improved this season and should continue to do so again next season. Added to the players Rafa should bring in we should have an excellent squad to depend on next season.

      So all in all, and its not over yet, this season has been a very good one that I believe will lead to success next season and for years after.

      Y.N.W.A     
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      Reply #1: May 11, 2009 01:26:33 pm
      I was born in 1985 and been a big fan since i was 7.  This season has by far been our best of recent times.  Just to be challenging is something we should all be proud of.

      With the exception of a few lousey draws we have been attacking, free flowing and have hammered the mancs - not once, but twice.

      I think we have been by far the better team out of the season, unlike the scum who have gone out and settled for 1-nil's and played boring football.

      If the title is out of reach by way of maths then i will admit it cant be won, until then i wont give up.  Im really proud of the squad as a whole, we have great prospects and local lads coming through the ranks who will adapt to the game quite quick.

      My highlight is Pompey, i was at that match whilst down south at my aunties.  We didnt give up and we wont now until that final whistle at Anfield, whatever the standings are at that time
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      Reply #2: May 11, 2009 01:41:29 pm
      If we win the league this season I don't think we will win it next year.

      If we don't win it this season then I reckon we probably will walk it next year.

      Looking back on this season and the major step forward has been in getting results against those teams around us.  Single-handedly that is responsible for the reason we are still up there.  Unfortunately, despite taking 6 points off Chelsea and United they have found it easier demolishing the weaker teams at home were we have no doubt struggled.  It's going to be a tough ask next season to take 12 points against Chelsea and United so it would be very surprising if we could match that. 

      If the home fans had given the players that extra push against the likes of West Ham at home - sent a bit of fear in to the opposition - then we probably would have won the league this season.  Next season, Liverpool fans need to roar the players to the title from the first game in August, and not start in March.
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      Reply #3: May 11, 2009 01:57:54 pm
      If we win the league this season I don't think we will win it next year.


      Why would that be??
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      Reply #4: May 11, 2009 02:38:54 pm
      we're gonna piss it next season no worries, can't believe your so negative jd, stevie and nando injury free, and with rafa's new additions, i am totally confident we will much better than this season, were up there challenging which is what rafa promised we would be, the gooners will struggle again unless they buy big, chelski are full of old men and has beens and the scum are not much better, they all fear us now we are the ones with the momentum and i just can't see us losing any more than what we lost this year, in fact i'll go as far as to say from next season i think we will start to dominate again like we did back in the seventies and eighties.     
                         YNWA.
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      Reply #5: May 11, 2009 02:41:43 pm
      Only in 91 96 02 and 06 have we finished top 2 since we last won the title.


      We were 3rd in 1996, and 3rd in 2006.

      2nd in 1991 and 2002.
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      Reply #6: May 11, 2009 02:49:46 pm
      I've still not given up hope however small on this season.
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      Reply #7: May 11, 2009 02:54:38 pm
      If we recall before the season started, hopes were low to say the least. Pre-season wasn't great at all, we looked sloppy and not at all like a Premiership winning side. Now we know that it is possible to win this, we have 2 games left and are still in with a shout. With the attacking play we have now, I think that we can actually win by a decent margin next season
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      Reply #8: May 11, 2009 02:55:57 pm
      Am i the only one who read JD's post properly????

      If we don't win it this season then I reckon we probably will walk it next year.
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      Reply #9: May 11, 2009 03:11:37 pm
      Excellent post, Brian. This season, title or not sets us up nicely for a fierce battle for the title next season.

      If we can have Torres and Stevie fit and firing all season next season, we will probably land the title, with a bit of strengthening in the summer.
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      Reply #10: May 11, 2009 03:18:01 pm
      Gerrard and Torres only started 12 games in the EPL all season. Both of them are key players and possess a telepathic understanding between themselves. Lose one of them to injury and our chances of winning a game will decrease.  They've gotten 28 goals in the EPL between themselves this season, but we've got 40 odd goals coming from the other players.

      This shows that we do not heavily rely on our duo, but also other players have the ability to step in and have a say, have an impact. Too often, its been always the same people scoring, driving the team on, and in our case it was Gerrard and Torres. Many labelled us as a 2 man team, but what now? Critics have shut up and not only we've got Gerrard and Torres looking good, Dirk's scored 14 goals and 12 assists all season, Alonso, Riera, Yossi also putting in the shift and scoring a couple.

      Any one of the players that get on the field and pull on the Red shirt have shown ability to save the team. Every one of them have a strong mentality, and indirectly are leaders, as spoken about the topic on the number of 'captains' we have. And this is what will stand us in good stead, the strong mentality, a good team togetherness and the never give up spirit.

      Just a couple more of signings, cutting out a couple of draws and believing in every single game, will lead us to the title.
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      Reply #11: May 11, 2009 03:24:14 pm
      If we don't win it this season, we will next year definitely. I think we've improved vastly as a team this season winning the big matches against the big teams, something we haven't done against Rafa in previous seasons, and with pretty big scorelines as well.

      If we don't win it this season, the draws are to blame and i believe Rafa will work on this and we will be better all round next season.

      And more importantly we've got some stability with Rafa and other key players signing long-term contracts.

      The future looks great for us.
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      Reply #12: May 11, 2009 03:29:46 pm

      We were 3rd in 1996, and 3rd in 2006.

      2nd in 1991 and 2002.

      Good man. I was sure we done it the other 2 years terrible memory.

      Anyway makes my point even more valid as only Sami Carra and Stevie have been involved in a title chase before now we have a squad full who now know whats required
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      Reply #13: May 11, 2009 03:30:08 pm
      Before the goal scoring rout I was kind of upset about the Keane sale ... you know selling a player who splayed well in SOME games but hasn't been given many chances but you know now that I think of it we shouldl've sold him even earlier because ever since Keane left Benny had been playing more and I think he was vital for our goal scoring form and if we had kept Keane we wouldn't be in the position we are in now ....s o I think If w  buy that player who will unlock tight defenses , like  tricky and pure quality left winger and keep Torres and Steven fit and firing the whole of next season and make all those easy draws into wins I assure you guys we can win the title ! And also for the CL if we just don't mess up like we did that night at Anfeild against Chelsea I know ( because we have already beaten all the biggest teams in the world on their own grounds) win the champions league too ... I say Liverpool can go for the double or even the treble next season ! YNWA !
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      Reply #14: May 11, 2009 03:32:33 pm
      We are not going to win it this season but I am totally sure that we will win it next season.
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      Reply #15: May 11, 2009 05:28:28 pm
      This season has been huge and the best under Rafa.

      We were out of contention in October/November last year yet this season we've pushed United all the way. If we'd been more ruthless at home we'd be celebrating now but there are still so many positives to take. The fact we scored more than 100 goals with Gerrard and Torres injured for large chunks is one of them. Doing the double over United and Chelsea was also a huge improvement.

      This season may end without any silverware but Liverpool have taken giant leaps forawrd in terms of winning the title.

      Next year it will be ours.
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      Reply #16: May 11, 2009 05:33:46 pm
      However this season ends, (holding on to my betting slips for a few days yet)
      with the experience gained and the strengthening of the team with a couple of quality additions...

      The futures bright, the futures Red, The futures  :kop5cf8koxp6:

      We will be taking as many trophies as we like next season I'm sure of it. ;D
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      Reply #17: May 11, 2009 05:38:54 pm
      Even if we don't win it this season, we should be proud of our achievements.

      We've been in the race since the league started. There were times where we looked to crack under pressure and fell to third but we hauled ourselves back into the race.
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      Reply #18: May 11, 2009 05:58:23 pm
      the players have been terrific this season !! and i think we're just 2 players short of the perfect team to win titles and cups for a few seasons on the bounce,The news that Kenny Dalglish may be offered a job sorting the academy out is a masterstroke by Rafa if it comes off,we should have won the title this year really ,but for a couple of poor results it would have been ours ,Robbie Keane was a mistake ,yes, i know he didn,t get lots of starts but you can,t afford to squander  chances too often at this level of football,so glad Xabi was here this year ,arguably the teams most consistent player ,all in all to be in a title chase and push the mancs and others made this season one of the very best for me ,we have gained valuable experience this year and got to know the players capabilities,GET SAVING FOR NEXT SEASON'S FINALS NOW !!! ,
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      Reply #19: May 11, 2009 06:10:20 pm
      This season shows mentality we are good enough to win it, when the pressure has come on towards the end of the season we've just kept winning, barring the couple of poxy late goals against Villa and an outrageous penalty decision in the Spurs match, we would have pipped Utd this year. It show the squad has the right attitude and mentality to be champions and with a couple of additions in the summer we can be very confident going into next season.
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      Reply #20: May 11, 2009 06:15:35 pm
      I think the team has exceeded most people's expectations this season. If Manchester United do win the title then we can still hold our heads up high as we have been the ones challenging, and my oh my have they been worried. It's quite evident when taking into consideration the all sorts of bollocks that has been coming out of Fergie's mouth.

      They will be aware of that now, that we are very close, and more importantly we are aware of it. I think this season will have quite a big impact on next season, we are improving under Rafa Benitez and I really believe that next season, if not this season, we can do it. The players now should be in the mindframe that we can challenge all the way rather than thinking we are going to finish 3rd or 4th, too many points behind the leaders. If it weren't for the silly results and the draws earlier in the season then the title would easily be ours. The players know that, the manager knows that and the fans know that.

      It's important that we remember we haven't had such a great position in the league for quite a number of years and there hasn't been great experience of it. I firmly believe that with experience comes improvement and this season I feel is extremely important in terms of the belief in the future campaigns that we are capable because we really are now with this squad.
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      Reply #21: May 11, 2009 06:18:43 pm
      Great post Brian. I think what happens this summer will play a major role on how we do next season. Rafa and the lads have learnt a lot from this season and they have really progressed. But we need a couple more players to come in and do a job straight away (namely a winger and a striker). Hopefully Torres and Stevie have a good rest this summer as they will be vital for us next year. We are not far off winning the league, we just need to be a bit more consistent from the start of the season till the end. Easier said than done ;D
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      Reply #22: May 11, 2009 07:58:53 pm
      I totally agree were improving season after season and i also believe even if Rafa has to sell certain players to bring in new talent but by next season i really think we will have a championship winning SQUAD. Our starting 11 is as good as anyones in the premiership in my opinion, we just need to bring in impact players and also player who can come in and get goals even when Torres  and Gerrard are injured. Realistically its not looking to bright for this season, and i know it gets banded around alot but i believe 'next year will be our year' ;D
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      Reply #23: May 11, 2009 09:45:35 pm
      This season has been Rafa's best to date. There are 2 things I take from this season. The first is the positive way Rafa responded following the Middlesborough defeat.His change of tactics from the cautious "no loss" approach to the win at all costs adventurous set up really allowed our players to express their qualities, they've got at teams and usually battered them, fantastic to watch.The second thing from this season is the development of real team spirit amongst the players. Other teams have "shows of togetherness" which are obviously stage managed for the cameras, ours is genuine respect amongst the players, this will make a difference next season when things are not going right for individuals. They will support each other properly, no shows of discontent as per Ronaldo at the weekend when he was subbed.The quality and character of the players can and will only have one result next season,- premiership title no 19. YNWA
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      Reply #24: May 11, 2009 09:57:23 pm
      Real exiting season, and to still be in the title race as of May 11, 2009 says alot. The highs were the doubles over Man Utd and Chelsea, the low was the Middlesboro game (In which they are getting their ass handed to them now by New Utd)  and ALL those damm draws at home. Thought at first losing Keane was a mistake, but hey I'm no manager, and it worked out very well without him. Still praying to my mom in heaven that Man Utd still slip up, but we need to still win and lock up 2nd place. Sad to see the seaon come to a end with us not being in a cup final. Here in the U.S it is baseball all summer. I'm not a big fan of it, very boring to watch, unless your at a game drinking a few :)
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      Reply #25: May 11, 2009 10:33:00 pm
      It's been a good season, the way we are now set up with a strong team in all area's, we can go forward with the beliefe that we can win the title, even against the mancs and Chavs millions and lets not forget Man C. Rafa has got us playing good football and a lot of teams could learn from our attitude on the pitch.

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      Reply #26: May 11, 2009 10:35:49 pm
      Prior to this season, we were seen as the great under achievers ( in the league at least) . But as Rafa says the points difference between us and the eventual champions is narrowing every year ( Havent completly given up on this season but being realistic). Very Optimistic for next season the main reason being the boss extending his contract and key players following suit. Also Ferguson realises how much they rely on Ronaldo -hence why he panders to his every tantrum-,and if he goes or get's injured then they could be in serious S**t. Would like to see us strengthen the right back and left hand side of midfield, but nothing major aprt from that, and surely to god Stevie and El Nino will start more than 12 Games together.
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      Reply #27: May 12, 2009 12:03:56 am
      There's a few effects that can be looked at and learned from. Because one thing is for certain, we can only keep on learning and keep on improving. Time is not running out for us, as it is with other two teams i could mention.

      Firstly, I think our grit, determination, urgency and belief has come on fantastically this season. It went from a stage very early on in the season of appearing 'we can't afford to lose - so we'll keep going until we get it level'. Up to it's present state of being 'we're going out there to win from the off'.

      This is a huge factor that we can take into next season for me. We're proving to ourselves that the belief and team spirit is at a level needed to win the league.

      Another effect is stopping the off-field distractions getting on the field! No matter what anyone says, football hasn't been the one hundred percent focus in recent times that it should be, which is criminal. But we can go into next season with Rafa being here for a good few years yet and having important players signed up to continue our assault. The question mark still remains on the owners of course, but as I say, if there is one thing we've learned and put in order this season, the football is the most important thing.

      And then there is the belief and support from the fans. The most important thing in the world! The foundation on which our club rests.

      It wasn't so long ago that forums, phone in's and articles were plagued with doubt. It wasn't so long ago when we heard disgraceful boo's from the stands. Yet here we are, two games to go and it's still possible to win the league. The chances are slim but it's still F***ing possible!!!

      Next season, I hope a lot of fans remember this and make the effort to make it even more possible! Support is worth an extra goal at home, which was rightly said recently by our captain. And it's not surprising to hear him say that we may have lost the title at Anfield this season. Don't leave the lads to walk alone next season.
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      Reply #28: May 12, 2009 04:28:04 am
      Excellent post Redkenny.

      I agree.

      I'm still clinging on to the tiny hope that we will win the League. For me though, the most important thing to come out of this season is that we finally have the BELIEF that we are ready and able to sustain a Title challenge right to the end.

      The boys now know what's needed to go the distance. I don't think they've felt this for a while. They will have the confidence of knowing they went to OT and SB and came away from there with all 3 points. In the past it was a daunting propsect, now that that barrier has been smashed down, they can go there next season feeling they will have a great chance of coming away with all 3 points as well.

      We've done fantastically well on our away travels this season. I'm sure the previous season we did well at home but not so well away. Next season I'm looking forward to getting the mixture right, stamping out those horrible home draws and us smashing the points tally on our way to Number 20  ;)
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      Reply #29: May 12, 2009 09:05:16 am
      If Rafa gets his targets this summer, I am in no doubt we shall once again go for the title. I see Mascha has just pledged his future here, another important player signed.
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      Reply #30: May 12, 2009 12:23:28 pm
      last season was the scum's season

      this season is Barca's season

      and next season will be OURS !

      YNWA !
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      Reply #31: May 12, 2009 04:27:22 pm
      TOMKINS ENTERS THE TWILIGHT ZONE
      The weirdness continues. It happened again at Upton Park: inexplicably, Liverpool once again entered the twilight zone, and the opposition disappeared into the Bermuda Triangle.

      For some reason, teams in great form wilt and crumble when facing Liverpool. No matter how well they're playing in previous weeks, they roll over and give up the points.
       
      Clearly it has nothing to do with the Reds being a top side who quash the life out of a side before (or whilst) imposing their own attacking will; it's just yet another collective off-day for the team they're playing.
       
      It dates back to the Real Madrid game. Madrid were in superb form – and then Liverpool won at the Bernabeu, before thrashing them at Anfield. Suddenly the double Spanish champions were hailed as the worst Madrid side in eons, and were labelled rubbish in both games.
       
      Then came Sunderland, who in fairness were on a bit of a roll coming to Anfield. But they were seen off with little concern, as the visitors' good run came to an end. Limp Sunderland, etc...
       
      Next, Manchester United were experiencing their best run of home form for donkey's years, with 12 straight wins at Old Trafford and 11 straight league victories, yet were beaten 4-1.
       
      Funnily enough, it was they who, for no good reason, just didn't play well, in the one game where no motivation was necessary and where confidence wasn't an issue. Of course, it had nothing to do with them not being allowed to play well.
       
      Admittedly Aston Villa, still flying high in the league, were on a bit of a decline when coming to Anfield, although, naturally, they were only beaten 5-0 because of their own deficiencies.
       
      Next, Fulham were in the best form of their Premiership lives, and had just put United to the sword at Craven Cottage, but for some reason they just didn't play as well as they could when Rafa Benítez's side visited. Weird.
       
      In fairness, Chelsea were brilliant when visiting Anfield in the Champions League. They got due credit, too. It's fair to say that Liverpool didn't have a great second-half, but Andy Gray, no less, remarked that both sides had been excellent in the first half.
       
      So it's not that Liverpool were rubbish, as seems to be the case with the opposition every time the Reds get a good result. It was Guus Hiddink's brilliance, ably backed by his side.
       
      In the return, much was made of how awful Chelsea were, particularly in the first half. Liverpool did receive a little credit, but yet again, the main emphasis was on Chelsea letting themselves down rather than the Reds' attacking verve. Liverpool got some kudos for guts, but not their fair dues for quality.
       
      In the league, Arsenal had been in sensational form upon making the trip to Merseyside. But for some reason, Liverpool's sublime attacking football was given little credit following a thrilling (if galling) 4-4 draw, the least-just result of the season. Talk about floodlight robbery.
       
      It's fair to say that neither Blackburn nor Newcastle were in great shape when coming to Anfield, and but for the crossbar Liverpool could have racked up double figures in these two fixtures. Of course, as Liverpool confirmed themselves as the league's top scorers, the poor play of the opposition was the main story. (Oh, and some nonsense about semaphore.)
       
      If Sam Allardyce's sides are anything, they are dogged. Detractors find his football rudimentary, but his sides rarely crumble. Except that's what they did.
       
      Ah, because they had no fit strikers? Maybe, although Benni Mcarthy, left on the bench, is by far and away their top scorer this season. No-one asked them to play a centre-back up front, after all. It's like Rafa leaving out Jamie Carragher and playing Torres at centre-back due to an injury crisis.
       
      And then most recently, West Ham. There had been nothing but praise for Gianfranco Zola's side of late, who have a very good recent home record, beyond hard-fought 1-0 defeats to Manchester United and Chelsea. Coincidentally for Benítez and his side, once again, the opposition just didn't get into their stride.
       
      (And despite being no relation, it was weird for me watching Tomkins trying to stop Torres.)
       
      I feel compelled to point out that if certain other teams were the top league scorers, we'd never hear the last about their attacking talents.
       
      Part of me actually likes it when Liverpool go under the radar; it can be advantageous having the world against you, or ignoring your strengths. But another part of me finds the inequality irritating, and feels that credit should go only where it's due.
       
      Liverpool's only two top-class attacking players (according to sundry short-sighted pundits) have started just one-third of all 2008-09 league games in the same side, and yet the Reds have scored the most goals.
       
      And apparently Liverpool are 'cautious', with two 'holding' midfielders.
       
      Something's not right with this picture, is it?
       
      No change of formation has occurred in recent months, but as I argued earlier in the season, this is an excellent attacking side, and far from negative in its approach. If the stats didn't back me up at the time (often due to lax finishing), the figures now do.
       
      Similarly, at the time Robbie Keane was sold, I argued that it was the right decision. Plenty disagreed, but it seems to have proved the case.
       
      His place on the bench was becoming distracting (quite literally at times: the TV director for the Newcastle away game spent more time showing him than the action), and it was a chance to get in a good fee (and save on wages) in order to reinvest this summer.
       
      This was my gut instinct. When Liverpool's goals dried up later in the winter, I admit to wobbling a little. But yet again, my first instincts were right.
       
      And I also never lost sight of the fact that Keane hadn't been pulling up trees before he was sold; it's not like he'd banged in 15 or so. And he's also only scored three since returning to Spurs, and with time not on his side (he's 30 this summer), I felt it was a good time to cut the losses, for a very good player who wasn't fitting in (as happens now and again).
       
      However, my fear was less about selling Keane, and more that no replacement was sought.
       
      I never doubted the potential of David Ngog, who had been excelling at international youth level for a top nation, but feared that it would be next season before he found his feet in the fast-paced Premiership.
       
      Thankfully, despite only playing a few minutes here and there, he appeared to find that vital strength needed to survive as a striker in England almost as soon as I'd claimed this season looked too soon for him.
       
      And his record of minutes-per-goal (187) is now far better than Keane's was (at 255), and only marginally behind those of Torres (165) and Gerrard (145).
       
      In my defence, in the same blog, written at the end of January, I also touted Yossi Benayoun as someone who could do as well as Keane in the role behind the main striker; in truth, he's done even better, albeit often from a wide starting point, but with licence to roam into similar areas.
       
      So despite a little uneasiness on my part (there was of course some risk involved in selling Keane), I feel that my optimism in January was not misplaced. The goals scored recently, even in the absence of Torres and/or Gerrard, show that the ability was in the squad all along.
       
      If anything, I feel pleasantly surprised at seeing the Reds as the Premiership's top scorers, not to mention having thumped four past Madrid, Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United in the main competitions. I didn't see that coming. And this all came after Keane left.
       
      Then there's Krisztian Nemeth, whose quality I've never doubted since I first saw him play for the reserves, but for whom injuries have ruined this season; he's another option that didn't pan out this spring in Keane's absence – particularly after a brief loan spell at Blackpool, designed to get him match-sharp, ended with a broken cheekbone sustained within a minute of his debut. That's just plain bad luck.
       
      But players like Ngog and Nemeth can only improve, as can Daniel Pacheco, so it's not like Liverpool are peaking this season; indeed, it's still a very young first-team squad, with an average age about to be further lowered with the exit of the evergreen Sami Hyypia (more on the great Finn next week).
       
      Otherwise I'd expect all of the main players to still be around, and benefiting from one more year spent together.
       
      Take into account the handicap of injuries to Torres, Gerrard and, when it came to winning more games at Anfield, Daniel Agger, and there's every reason to think that a fit squad next season (fingers crossed) will be significantly superior to this. And that's before any additions.
       
      Despite lower resources, Liverpool need to try and match that little extra depth that United possess; after all, that's what will see them crowned champions, if they get four points from their next three games.
       
      They've certainly not played better football than Liverpool this season (and it's been well over a decade since I've been able to say that), but eeked out the extra point here and there, often with 1-0 wins.
       
      May finale

      Remarkably, under Rafa Benítez, a Liverpool season has never 'finished' before May (with the narrowest of exceptions last year).
       
      I don't mean the desperate charge to finish in the Champions League positions, but genuinely contesting trophies until the final month of the campaign.
       
      May 2005 saw the Reds win the Champions League. May 2006 saw Liverpool win the FA Cup. May 2007 saw a better performance in the Champions League Final in a rematch with Milan, but a worse result (c’est la vie).
       
      And last year the Reds were still in the Champions League until just a few minutes before the start of May, when getting the game back to 3-2 at Stamford Bridge in extra-time left them one away goal from yet another final. (And to shamelessly sneak it in, technically it was May 1st in some parts of the world.)
       
      The cup success of the previous four seasons has diminished, only to be replaced with a serious title challenge: one that is still just about alive and kicking as we head towards mid-May.
       
      However, to my mind, Liverpool were always unlikely to win their first league title in almost two decades while simultaneously excelling in Europe; if the 'first' title is universally regarded as the hardest to win, additional tough games in the run-in could hinder that, even if progress is naturally sought in all competitions.
       
      With the title theirs to wrap up this week, United fans will rightly take heart if they win the league without playing their best football. It's a nice luxury.
       
      But Liverpool will have pushed them down to the wire without the manager being able to field anything like his best side for two-thirds of all league games (and that's ignoring other key absences in the 12 games that Torres and Gerrard were fit to start together).
       
      Maybe that's an even better sign.
       
      It also seems that there are some itchy feet at United, with Ronaldo and Tevez linked with exits. It would be dangerous to assume that losing top attacking talent will see them falter; when Liverpool lost Kevin Keegan and Ian Rush, the team actually improved with reinforcements. But there's always a risk of it not quite working out, or taking time to gel.
       
      By contrast, at Liverpool there seems to be a hunger to stick together and keep improving.
       
      With Arsenal at times brilliant but brittle as balsa, and ageing Chelsea on the verge of serious transition (new manager and culling of some 30-somethings seem inevitable), this could be just the start of Liverpool's quest to knock United off their perch.
       
      The race to #19 could be the big one.

      I know there's a Paul Tomkins thread but I just wanted to point out the fact that I think this generally sums up our season. We've done great things and achieve great and it's a season that we should be proud of regardless if we win the league or not. I also think it tells us alot about what's in the store for next season ;)
      Brian78
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      Re: This seasons effects on next season
      Reply #32: May 12, 2009 04:38:37 pm
      I was trying to get across the same thing as Paul just not as well  ;D
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      Re: This seasons effects on next season
      Reply #33: May 14, 2009 03:01:14 pm
      this season was a great setting stone for next season! Next season will be very fun to watch! LIVERPOOL will win the Premiership and Champions league next year!
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      Re: This seasons effects on next season
      Reply #34: May 14, 2009 03:08:35 pm
      if rafa decides to start with the same set of player's for the first ten game's then no doubt we will win next year.
      the lads have proven they have got the consitency that is required.

      bring it on.
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      Re: This seasons effects on next season
      Reply #35: May 14, 2009 06:49:58 pm
      I know some say I'm crazy, but Liverpool will win the League.  Arsenal, with Arshavin, will beat manure 3-2.  then, hull city, fighting for their lives, will edge manure 2-1.  believe. ynwa.

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