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      Keith Singleton
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      Re: The Official: Laugh At The Mancs Thread
      Reply #16170: Jul 31, 2018 07:04:44 pm
      What's your views on Maureen now Keith, still happy with him or getting a bit annoyed as many of your fellow fans are, plus how do you feel about the transfer window?

      Man it's never easy with Mourhino we all know that.  ??? Annoyed the wrong word. Probably anxious is what I'm looking for. Mourhino not happy unless he's moaning about something. This for me is his defining season.

      We have seen from last year playing defensively isn't going to win you the league the way City & Liverpool are playing. As a fan, yes I'm getting frustrated and would like to see us attack more this season. Can Mourhino change his ways? Highly unlikely but I can only hope, I fear the worse if he doesn't.

      Like many United fans the transfer market this summer has been a nightmare. Not really improved the side so based on that can't win the league. For me City will walk it again and you lads will finish second.

      The 18/19 season is the first in a very very long time I actually think Liverpool will win a Trophy  :(  ;D Klopp has bought exceptionally well building the new look Liverpool over the last two transfer markets.
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      Reply #16171: Jul 31, 2018 07:28:13 pm
      Man it's never easy with Mourhino we all know that.  ??? Annoyed the wrong word. Probably anxious is what I'm looking for. Mourhino not happy unless he's moaning about something. This for me is his defining season.

      We have seen from last year playing defensively isn't going to win you the league the way City & Liverpool are playing. As a fan, yes I'm getting frustrated and would like to see us attack more this season. Can Mourhino change his ways? Highly unlikely but I can only hope, I fear the worse if he doesn't.

      Like many United fans the transfer market this summer has been a nightmare. Not really improved the side so based on that can't win the league. For me City will walk it again and you lads will finish second.

      The 18/19 season is the first in a very very long time I actually think Liverpool will win a Trophy  :(  ;D Klopp has bought exceptionally well building the new look Liverpool over the last two transfer markets.

      Do you still have as much faith in Jose as you have done previously? Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t you say you are a big fan of his?

      Its strange with Jose, the longer he stays at a club the more paranoid and bitter he seems to get...3rd season usually. He had a complete meltdown at the Chavs and they were flirting with the teams down the bottom at one point, on the back of winning the league. This time his meltdown has happened before the season has even started, it’s never really taken him much to lose the backing of his players but surely it’s a real concern going into the new season? The amount of money he’s spent and he’s still crying out for more.
      Obviously you will want to think the best going into the new season but realistically, if he’s there all season, what are you expecting. I can honestly see them slipping right down the table, think he’s completely lost the support of his players after his meltdown, was no need for it. I’d be concerned if it was us.
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      Reply #16172: Jul 31, 2018 09:24:55 pm
      Do you still have as much faith in Jose as you have done previously? Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t you say you are a big fan of his?

      Its strange with Jose, the longer he stays at a club the more paranoid and bitter he seems to get...3rd season usually. He had a complete meltdown at the Chavs and they were flirting with the teams down the bottom at one point, on the back of winning the league. This time his meltdown has happened before the season has even started, it’s never really taken him much to lose the backing of his players but surely it’s a real concern going into the new season? The amount of money he’s spent and he’s still crying out for more.
      Obviously you will want to think the best going into the new season but realistically, if he’s there all season, what are you expecting. I can honestly see them slipping right down the table, think he’s completely lost the support of his players after his meltdown, was no need for it. I’d be concerned if it was us.

      You really should change your name to Mr archives KK as I know you always dig deep for past post.  ;D  Yes I'm still a big fan of him but obviously I'm hoping he mixes up this year (( he has too ))

      He's not on meltdown just yet but certainly on a downer that's for sure. Certainly don't think there is a issue with the dressing room and that's just the usual tabloids bullshit. We have the players to make a challenge of such but as I've already stated he has to change his formation some what for me which is very hard for Mourinho to do.  :-\

      Klopp has spent more than Mourhino whilst they have both been with their respective clubs but if you look back in the archives  ( ;D) you'll know that's never been a issue with me as a fan. Doesn't bother me if we spent 500 million in one transfer window as long as it potentially improves the team.

      Based on transfer window I'm not sure I can expect anything trophy wise. Just hoping he reads my message on here and comes out playing the attacking mode like you and City.  ;D
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      Reply #16173: Aug 01, 2018 12:42:21 am


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      Reply #16174: Aug 01, 2018 05:02:32 am
      You really should change your name to Mr archives KK as I know you always dig deep for past post.  ;D  Yes I'm still a big fan of him but obviously I'm hoping he mixes up this year (( he has too ))

      He's not on meltdown just yet but certainly on a downer that's for sure. Certainly don't think there is a issue with the dressing room and that's just the usual tabloids bullshit. We have the players to make a challenge of such but as I've already stated he has to change his formation some what for me which is very hard for Mourinho to do.  :-\

      Klopp has spent more than Mourhino whilst they have both been with their respective clubs but if you look back in the archives  ( ;D) you'll know that's never been a issue with me as a fan. Doesn't bother me if we spent 500 million in one transfer window as long as it potentially improves the team.

      Based on transfer window I'm not sure I can expect anything trophy wise. Just hoping he reads my message on here and comes out playing the attacking mode like you and City.  ;D

      Why are you on about archives? I haven’t looked back at anything. Difference with our spending though is that it’s come at the expense of Coutinho, Jose hasn’t lost anyone of any significance.
      Usual Manc reply though I guess, ask a question about how you realistically see he current situation and it turns into our spending and little digs about archives for some strange reason...
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      Reply #16175: Aug 01, 2018 06:54:36 am
      Why are you on about archives? I haven’t looked back at anything. Difference with our spending though is that it’s come at the expense of Coutinho, Jose hasn’t lost anyone of any significance.
      Usual Manc reply though I guess, ask a question about how you realistically see he current situation and it turns into our spending and little digs about archives for some strange reason...

      Your like a elephant, you simply doesnt forget as a rule and when you do your on your search engines  ;D Doesn't matter where it comes from its still part of the club. Your for ever having snips at my post so have a little back and chew on them.  ;D  Its all fun though, least on my part it is. Try not to be so negative and lighten up with some banter occasionally Mr A.  ;D
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      Reply #16176: Aug 01, 2018 08:02:02 am
      Liverpool do in one season what clubs like United, Chelsea and City have been doing for a decade + and everybody decides to jump on the bandwagon that Liverpool spend big. People will never see eye to eye about net spend but, at the end of the day, if you are losing your best players every season(and getting £140m in the process) you need to rebuild.

      I’d be interested to see the comparison between both the price and salaries of Utd’s and Liverpool’s squads. I don’t think it would be close.
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      Reply #16177: Aug 01, 2018 08:04:15 am
      You really should change your name to Mr archives KK as I know you always dig deep for past post.  ;D  Yes I'm still a big fan of him but obviously I'm hoping he mixes up this year (( he has too ))

      He's not on meltdown just yet but certainly on a downer that's for sure. Certainly don't think there is a issue with the dressing room and that's just the usual tabloids bullshit. We have the players to make a challenge of such but as I've already stated he has to change his formation some what for me which is very hard for Mourinho to do.  :-\

      Klopp has spent more than Mourhino whilst they have both been with their respective clubs but if you look back in the archives  ( ;D) you'll know that's never been a issue with me as a fan. Doesn't bother me if we spent 500 million in one transfer window as long as it potentially improves the team.

      Based on transfer window I'm not sure I can expect anything trophy wise. Just hoping he reads my message on here and comes out playing the attacking mode like you and City.  ;D

      I'm fairly sure that Maureen's net spend in his time at Man Utd compared to Jürgen's at Liverpool is much much higher Keith, remember that this window is the first window where we have spent any serious money, above what we have received form player sales, approx. £100m. MOst other windows were either a profit or net spend of approx. £20m.
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      Reply #16178: Aug 01, 2018 10:37:57 am
      I'm fairly sure that Maureen's net spend in his time at Man Utd compared to Jürgen's at Liverpool is much much higher Keith, remember that this window is the first window where we have spent any serious money, above what we have received form player sales, approx. £100m. MOst other windows were either a profit or net spend of approx. £20m.

      It may well  be. Its just something that i heard on Sky Sports News. Im all for spending serious money, especially  when its United spending it and not our rivals  :lmao:
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      Reply #16179: Aug 02, 2018 07:08:41 am
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      Man it's never easy with Mourhino we all know that.  ??? Annoyed the wrong word. Probably anxious is what I'm looking for. Mourhino not happy unless he's moaning about something. This for me is his defining season.

      We have seen from last year playing defensively isn't going to win you the league the way City & Liverpool are playing. As a fan, yes I'm getting frustrated and would like to see us attack more this season. Can Mourhino change his ways? Highly unlikely but I can only hope, I fear the worse if he doesn't.

      Like many United fans the transfer market this summer has been a nightmare. Not really improved the side so based on that can't win the league. For me City will walk it again and you lads will finish second.

      Lots of people thought Chelsea would walk it 12 months ago, instead they walked out of the top 4. It's very hard to retain this league, let alone walk it in the process. It hasn't been done in 10 years, and it appears City are struggling so far, with modest results, uninspiring signings, and another coach that thinks missing WC players in pre season only applies to his side.

      But you won't be winning the league, now the third season syndrome is already in full swing. He won't change his ways and he won't attack any more than he has to. You knew that would be the case when he arrived. He was brought in for the quick fix, and he didn't fix it quick enough.

      So I have my "Can't Win The League Day" post ready to go again.
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      Reply #16180: Aug 02, 2018 09:03:30 am
      Lots of people thought Chelsea would walk it 12 months ago, instead they walked out of the top 4. It's very hard to retain this league, let alone walk it in the process. It hasn't been done in 10 years, and it appears City are struggling so far, with modest results, uninspiring signings, and another coach that thinks missing WC players in pre season only applies to his side.

      But you won't be winning the league, now the third season syndrome is already in full swing. He won't change his ways and he won't attack any more than he has to. You knew that would be the case when he arrived. He was brought in for the quick fix, and he didn't fix it quick enough.

      So I have my "Can't Win The League Day" post ready to go again.

      Who was the last team to win it back to back.  :f_whistle:  ;D I wouldn't take any notice of the pre friendly soft any of the top teams. It means jack sh*t being honest. City will win the league again. No one has improved their side enough to to take them on, Obviously Liverpool appear to have bought exceptional well and will be the biggest challengers but I still think the gap is to big.

      Course you can have your can't win the league day. I've been saying that about you lot for years.  :lmao:
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      Reply #16181: Aug 02, 2018 09:20:55 am
      Who was the last team to win it back to back.  :f_whistle:  ;D I wouldn't take any notice of the pre friendly soft any of the top teams. It means jack sh*t being honest. City will win the league again. No one has improved their side enough to to take them on, Obviously Liverpool appear to have bought exceptional well and will be the biggest challengers but I still think the gap is to big.

      Course you can have your can't win the league day. I've been saying that about you lot for years.  :lmao:

      In fairness it seems like the only person taking the friendlies seriously is Maureen, he's certainly the only one who moans and makes excuses if he loses one and also the only one who is playing 4-5 players the full 90 minutes then wondering why they are picking up so many injuries.
      I think it will be very interesting to see how Utd do this season, you haven't really strengthened but you now have even more players pissed off and disillusioned with the "Special" one.
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      Reply #16182: Aug 02, 2018 10:14:04 am
      In fairness it seems like the only person taking the friendlies seriously is Maureen, he's certainly the only one who moans and makes excuses if he loses one and also the only one who is playing 4-5 players the full 90 minutes then wondering why they are picking up so many injuries.
      I think it will be very interesting to see how Utd do this season, you haven't really strengthened but you now have even more players pissed off and disillusioned with the "Special" one.

      Yeah we've certainly not improved yet and even if we do get the other player Mourhino on about it still won't be enough for a title challenge. All though I think we will get top four that's about all I can see.
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      Reply #16183: Aug 02, 2018 10:26:22 am
      Yeah we've certainly not improved yet and even if we do get the other player Mourhino on about it still won't be enough for a title challenge. All though I think we will get top four that's about all I can see.

      Yeah I think you should be able to get top 4 but it depends a bit on Arsenal and Chelsea, but I think Chelsea look to be in bad shape as well, with several players itching to leave.
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      Reply #16184: Aug 02, 2018 10:33:16 am
      Yeah I think you should be able to get top 4 but it depends a bit on Arsenal and Chelsea, but I think Chelsea look to be in bad shape as well, with several players itching to leave.

      Chelsea look to be in worse state than us on paper. Very hard to work out Aresnal just yet with their new manager.
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      Reply #16185: Aug 02, 2018 11:37:36 am
      Mourinho is one that will stick to the same tactics when he is so much believe in. His first stint with Chelsea, he had some great players and his tactics worked perfectly well and in later years he lost some players, some to injury and some left the club and players that came in as replacement did not fit into  his tactics, Salah is one of them, and the team suffered and he left. His second stint is no difference, he came back thinking he could use the same tactics in his first stint to win titles but probably by then 3/4 of the starting 11 has changed and the players struggled to perform and led to a revolt and he left. Now at MU.

      This familiar pattern continued to stay the day where MU beat Liverpool by 2 cleverly crafted goals while defending 3/4 of them game. That has perhaps turned Mourino  into a cult overnight among the MU fans and he surely loved that and has has persisted with such tactics ever since.  It's never easy to change Mourinho's mind set as he has an ego bigger than anything that you could imagine. That cult figure began to wane among MU fans as time goes by after watching boring football game after game.   He has spent big amount of money on players but he has not really delivered. I'm sure this season he will be judged by the MU board and may I boldly predict he will go just before Xmas if he doesn't change his tactics as clubs are better prepared to face MU this season.

      However,  I;m sure  Mourinho is not dumb he knows that he has one of the weaker defences among thew top 4 and he can't fixed i overnight and his tactics worked so far to give him those wins, so why not continue with that,  but the new season will be a different ball game, clubs are better prepared this time to face MU and if he performed poorly in the first 5 games knives will be out. That's just a personal opinion.
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      Reply #16186: Aug 02, 2018 05:03:47 pm
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      Who was the last team to win it back to back.  :f_whistle:  ;D I wouldn't take any notice of the pre friendly soft any of the top teams. It means jack sh*t being honest. City will win the league again. No one has improved their side enough to to take them on, Obviously Liverpool appear to have bought exceptional well and will be the biggest challengers but I still think the gap is to big.

      Course you can have your can't win the league day. I've been saying that about you lot for years.

      Maybe so, but you're expected to win the league every year since 1993. We're not.

      One post you tell us you're "anxious", the next you tell us "you wouldn't take any notice". Which is it?

      Every coach, Mourinho included, will stress the importance of pre-season. A good pre-season builds momentum into the season, which allows the players to hit the ground running from the word go. A poor pre-season can carry on into the season proper. The first coach to lose his job last year was gone after just 4 games, his team didn't score a goal nor get a point.

      Like I said, nobody has retained this league in 10 years, and City will have a lot more work to do this year. Unless it's Bayern or PSG, you don't walk a major European league at a canter every year.
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      Reply #16187: Aug 02, 2018 05:54:53 pm
      Yeah we've certainly not improved yet and even if we do get the other player Mourhino on about it still won't be enough for a title challenge. All though I think we will get top four that's about all I can see.

      I don't think the players are the problem.

      The problem lies with how they are being used.

      Pogba, for instance, has all the attributes to be an outstanding midfielder, but when he attacks, you see maureen going mad on the touchline.
      I think he should be in a free role, to get the best out of him, instead, he's tied down and his talent suffocated.

      And he's not the only example.
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      Reply #16188: Aug 02, 2018 06:14:50 pm
      I don't think the players are the problem.

      The problem lies with how they are being used.

      Pogba, for instance, has all the attributes to be an outstanding midfielder, but when he attacks, you see maureen going mad on the touchline.
      I think he should be in a free role, to get the best out of him, instead, he's tied down and his talent suffocated.

      And he's not the only example.

      I actually totally agree with you swabs. Maybe we should apply to be a manager  ;D
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      Reply #16189: Aug 04, 2018 07:35:59 am
      Who pays Sanchez's half a million quid a week  ... ?


      The SCUM'S current sponsors.

      (You have to laugh)



      Chevrolet: Principal sponsor - £47million a year

      Nike: Principal sponsor - £25.4m a year

      Aon: Principal sponsor - £17m a year

      DHL: Logistics partner - £10m a year

      bwin: Online Betting and Gaming partner - £2.4m a year

      Casillero del Diablo: Official wine of Man Utd - £2m a year

      Singha Beer: Official beer of Man Utd - £2m a year

      DEALS WORTH £1m-2m a year

      Aeroflot: Official airline

      Bulova: Official timekeeping partner

      Epson: Office equipment partner

      Toshiba Medical Systems: Medical systems partner

      Aperol Spritz: Global spirits partner

      Nissin Foods Group: Global noodle partner

      STC: Telecommunications partner of Man Utd for Saudi Arabia

      Yanmar: Official global partner

      Kansai Paint: Official paint partner

      The Hong Kong Jockey Club: Official partner

      TM: Telecommunications partner in Malaysia

      Apollo Tyres: Tyre partner in UK and India

      Globacom: Telecommunication services partner in Nigeria, Ghana, Republic of Benin

      VIVA: Telecommunication services partner in Bahrain

      VIVA Kuwait: Telecommunication services partner in Kuwait

      Honda: Motorcycle partner in Thailand

      Bakcell: Telecommunications partner for Azerbaijan

      Gloops: Gaming partner in Japan

      Kagome: Official partner for Japan

      Truemove H: Mobile partner for Thailand

      Truevisions: MUTV broadcaster for Thailand

      PCCW: Telecommunications partner and broadcast partner for Hong Kong

      IVC: Official Chinese wellness partner

      Chi Limited: Soft drinks partner in Nigeria
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      Reply #16190: Aug 04, 2018 09:02:05 am
      Who pays Sanchez's half a million quid a week  ... ?


      The SCUM'S current sponsors.

      (You have to laugh)



      Chevrolet: Principal sponsor - £47million a year

      Nike: Principal sponsor - £25.4m a year

      Aon: Principal sponsor - £17m a year

      DHL: Logistics partner - £10m a year

      bwin: Online Betting and Gaming partner - £2.4m a year

      Casillero del Diablo: Official wine of Man Utd - £2m a year

      Singha Beer: Official beer of Man Utd - £2m a year

      DEALS WORTH £1m-2m a year

      Aeroflot: Official airline

      Bulova: Official timekeeping partner

      Epson: Office equipment partner

      Toshiba Medical Systems: Medical systems partner

      Aperol Spritz: Global spirits partner

      Nissin Foods Group: Global noodle partner

      STC: Telecommunications partner of Man Utd for Saudi Arabia

      Yanmar: Official global partner

      Kansai Paint: Official paint partner

      The Hong Kong Jockey Club: Official partner

      TM: Telecommunications partner in Malaysia

      Apollo Tyres: Tyre partner in UK and India

      Globacom: Telecommunication services partner in Nigeria, Ghana, Republic of Benin

      VIVA: Telecommunication services partner in Bahrain

      VIVA Kuwait: Telecommunication services partner in Kuwait

      Honda: Motorcycle partner in Thailand

      Bakcell: Telecommunications partner for Azerbaijan

      Gloops: Gaming partner in Japan

      Kagome: Official partner for Japan

      Truemove H: Mobile partner for Thailand

      Truevisions: MUTV broadcaster for Thailand

      PCCW: Telecommunications partner and broadcast partner for Hong Kong

      IVC: Official Chinese wellness partner

      Chi Limited: Soft drinks partner in Nigeria


      Bloody hell, that is some income stream and you didn't even take Adidas into account, but the problem with sponsors is that they are fickle and they will only pay the big bucks for successful teams. Does anyone have a comparison with our sponsors, I expect we are still a long way behind?
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      Reply #16191: Aug 04, 2018 04:15:54 pm
      Official noodle partner 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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      Reply #16192: Aug 05, 2018 09:19:11 pm
      Beaten by Bayern.
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      Reply #16193: Aug 05, 2018 11:59:12 pm
      The laughter keeps coming.

      One summer that we sign a few players, and now "we're buying everything and everybody".

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      Reply #16194: Aug 06, 2018 09:59:16 am
      Think the toys are being put into the pram right now getting ready for deadline day. Poor Maureen mind you he and that club are a perfect match.
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      Reply #16195: Aug 06, 2018 10:46:11 am

      What an awful preseason for them, not just results but disharmony in the squad, players pissed off, manager moaning all the time.

      Compare that to us, very nice results, despite playing lots of fringe players, great harmony in the team, everyone smiling and enjoying each others company, all good.
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      Reply #16196: Aug 06, 2018 10:25:40 pm
      So the question is who will blink first Pogba or Maureen because UTD cant keep them both not in the same room anyway.
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      Reply #16197: Aug 06, 2018 10:43:59 pm
      Apparently Barcelona have offered £50 mill plus Mina and Gomez for Pogba😂😂😂😂the cafe is having a coronary
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      Reply #16198: Aug 07, 2018 12:32:35 am
      Well utd are just a few bad results away from departing from the special one!  Ha ha he is rewriting the script again.
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      Reply #16199: Aug 07, 2018 04:34:24 pm
      Well whats new ? We always knew it and its been that way for years with their harassment of referees for starters.

      Karma is a bi*ch. Its coming round.

      We would have been 2nd to City this year . 12 points dropped.                   Ed:  (Thats not counting Migs!)

      If we don't get the title we will be 2nd for 2018/19 .

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45087444


      Liverpool unluckiest Premier League team & Manchester United luckiest, says study

         

      The study found Liverpool's 0-0 draw at home to Manchester United in October would have become a 1-0 win had the Reds been awarded a penalty

      Liverpool were the 'unluckiest' team in the Premier League last season while Manchester United were the 'luckiest', new research claims.

      The Reds dropped 12 points in matches affected by wrongly disallowed goals or incorrect decisions on penalties and red cards, says a study conducted by ESPN, Intel and the University of Bath.

      It says United gained six points over incidents that went in their favour.

      Manchester City remain top in a new simulated table accounting for 'luck'.

      However, the study found Huddersfield should have been relegated instead of Stoke when 'incorrect' refereeing decisions were taken into account.

      It also found Brighton would have finished six places higher - moving up to ninth and earning an extra £11.5m in prize money on their return to the top flight.

      Conversely, Leicester would have finished 14th instead of ninth, ending the season with £9.7m less in prize money.

      Fourth-placed Liverpool would have swapped with second-placed United, and champions City fallen three points short of their 100 mark.
      How did the 'Luck Index' work?

      A research team collaborated with ex-Premier League referee Peter Walton, analysing footage from every game of the 2017-18 Premier League season and watching for:

          Goals that should have been disallowed
          Incorrectly disallowed goals
          Incorrectly awarded penalties (that were scored)
          Penalties that were not awarded but should have been
          Incorrect red-card decisions
          Red-card incidents that were missed
          Goals scored after injury time overran
          Deflected goals

      Once incidents had been indentified, an alternative outcome of the affected matches was predicted, using a model that also considered factors including team strength, form, and home advantage.

      For example: in Liverpool's 0-0 draw with Manchester United at Anfield on 14 October, the study concluded Jürgen Klopp's side should have been awarded a penalty in the 63rd minute, and the new simulated scoreline was a 1-0 victory for the home side.

      And, while Leicester gained seven points compared to Manchester United's six according to the 'Luck Index', the Red Devils' points came from fewer incidents, giving them a greater points-per-incident ratio.

      Once the process was completed, the Premier League table was redrawn to reflect the new simulated results.

      Premier League table 17-18      'Luck Index' simulated table 17-18   
      Manchester City   100   Manchester City   97
      Manchester United   81   Liverpool   87
      Tottenham   77   Tottenham   77
      Liverpool   75   Manchester United   75
      Chelsea   70   Arsenal    71
      Arsenal   63   Chelsea   70
      Burnley   54   Burnley    50
      Everton   49   Newcastle    48
      Leicester   47   Brighton   46
      Newcastle   44   Everton    44
      Crystal Palace   44   Crystal Palace   42
      Bournemouth   44   West Ham   41
      West Ham   42   Watford    41
      Watford   41   Leicester    40
      Brighton   40   Southampton   40
      Huddersfield   37   Bournemouth   38
      Southampton   36   Stoke   37
      Swansea    33   Huddersfield   37
      Stoke   33   Swansea   34
      West Brom   31   West Brom   33

      The research team analysed over 150 incidents and also found:

          Leicester scored three goals after injury time overran - more than any other side.
          Huddersfield's John Smith's Stadium saw the most deflected goals - five. Two of those worked in the Terriers' favour.
          Matt Ritchie was the 'luckiest player'. The Newcastle winger avoided two red cards, while a handball in the box against Leicester went unnoticed.

      Assistant Professor Thomas Curran from the University of Bath said each game was simulated "thousands of times to model how it should have turned out".

      He said the project was "one of the most detailed pieces of research we have ever conducted".

      Former referee Walton added: "The results demonstrate the impact and importance of refereeing decisions on a game.

      "With the Premier League deciding not to introduce VAR for the coming season, it is interesting to see how much luck plays a part in the way the league unfolds."

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