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      Javier Mascherano or Xabi Alonso - Who would be the worst loss?

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      hardcoresoldier
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      Re: Javier Mascherano or Xabi Alonso - Who would be the worst loss?
      Reply #46: Jun 18, 2009 11:37:21 pm
      What a F***ing thread! What a question to ask? This one is a bugger to answer. >:D

      Would i rather see the best defensive midfielder in world football leave?, or the most intelligent central midfielder in world football leave?

      I can't do this!  :mad: Mascherano is the unsung hero who protects our back four and gives Alonso and Co. the platform to attack, he will never ever give up, he doesn't do lost causes, to him, anything is attainable.

      Then we have Alonso, cool as the proverbial cucumber, more intelligent than Albert Einstein and more than capable of opening up the tightest of defences at will. Also, the ability to have completed a pass whilst others haven't even thought about it!

      This is impossible! They are both priceless and irreplacable! If there is a definitive answer, please put it on a postcard........ :f_wah:
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      Re: Javier Mascherano or Xabi Alonso - Who would be the worst loss?
      Reply #47: Jun 18, 2009 11:40:01 pm
      If you had a choice of two people to bring on to change a game ,one was Masch, and the other was Xabi ..i'd bring Xabi on for his creativity and vision.Got to admit i think Masch is a hell of a player but i,d keep Xabi given a choice
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      Re: Javier Mascherano or Xabi Alonso - Who would be the worst loss?
      Reply #48: Jul 27, 2009 10:04:36 pm
      Xabi in terms of his passing ability and vision and his ability to dictate the way we play is irreplaceable where as Mascherano could be replaced maybe not as effictively but replaced all the same, I would not want any of them to leave but in the spirit of the thread I say Xabi would be the biggest loss and unfortunately that may yet come true.
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      Re: Javier Mascherano or Xabi Alonso - Who would be the worst loss?
      Reply #49: Jul 27, 2009 10:17:40 pm
      Xabi definitely would be the most missed out of the two. 

      Not sure if the stats from last season back this up, (maybe DLS can work his magic) but we didn't seem to have the same penetration or vision when Xabi wasn't playing, whereas our defense generally held it's own with or without Masch on the pitch. 

      Or at least it felt like it from the matches I saw or maybe tv coverage gives a different perspective.
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      Re: Javier Mascherano or Xabi Alonso - Who would be the worst loss?
      Reply #50: Jul 27, 2009 10:18:07 pm
      A question I can't answer as both are unreplaceable at the moment......
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      Re: Javier Mascherano or Xabi Alonso - Who would be the worst loss?
      Reply #51: Jul 27, 2009 10:28:32 pm
      Thank You For Making This Thread. Xabi would obviously be the bigger lose as we can replace javier but alonso he is one of a kind ha can pick a pass like no other player. He Determines the tempo of which we play at.
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      Re: Javier Mascherano or Xabi Alonso - Who would be the worst loss?
      Reply #52: Jul 27, 2009 10:32:54 pm
      look what happened when rafa took of mascherano in the final at athens,he had kaka in his pocket all night.
      Mascherano would be the bigger loss,if that was not the case rafa would have accepted a bid for him.
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      Reply #53: Jul 27, 2009 10:36:33 pm
      Look what happened when Alonso went to Istanbul, we won the fugga with a much weaker squad
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      Re: Javier Mascherano or Xabi Alonso - Who would be the worst loss?
      Reply #54: Jul 27, 2009 10:37:35 pm
      Nice response RedlfcBlood. ;D
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      Re: Javier Mascherano or Xabi Alonso - Who would be the worst loss?
      Reply #55: Jul 27, 2009 10:43:31 pm
      If memory serves me correct didi made the difference in the second half not alonso?
      Yeah he scored the pen but up untill then where was alonso?
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      Re: Javier Mascherano or Xabi Alonso - Who would be the worst loss?
      Reply #56: Jul 27, 2009 10:47:35 pm
      look what happened when rafa took of mascherano in the final at athens,he had kaka in his pocket all night.
      Mascherano would be the bigger loss,if that was not the case rafa would have accepted a bid for him.

      Let me give your memory a jog lad.

      AC Milan's goals 44th minute and the 74th minute, while Mascherano was subbed in the 78th minute. So taking him off cost so us so F***ing much didn't it. Now try and explain what happened when Masch went off?

      People who make such ridiculous claims really need to get their facts straight, maybe then they will realise what they thought was ridiculous.
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      Reply #57: Jul 27, 2009 10:48:06 pm
      If memory serves me correct didi made the difference in the second half not alonso?
      Yeah he scored the pen but up untill then where was alonso?

      He was on the pitch trying to go about his business quietly and effectively or did you not watch the game, Agreed Hamman changed the game by neutralizing Kaka, But Hamman providing that cover gave Alonso the platform to pass his way through Milan.
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      Re: Javier Mascherano or Xabi Alonso - Who would be the worst loss?
      Reply #58: Jul 27, 2009 10:49:27 pm
      But more often then not when Alonso has a good game Liverpool have a good game.
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      Re: Javier Mascherano or Xabi Alonso - Who would be the worst loss?
      Reply #59: Jul 28, 2009 01:18:57 am
      I know Alonso dictates a lot of our play but I think Mascherano would be a bigger loss. For me he's in the top 3 defensive mids in the world. Last season wasn't his best but even still he was a crucial player. His doggedness is essential, particularly in tough games against other top sides. While Alonso is probably more unique and it might be impossible to find another player exactly like him, I think we could find someone else that could offer similar qualities. I think we could adapt without Alonso's style of play but we'll always need a midfielder that will make tackes and break up the other team's play
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      Re: Javier Mascherano or Xabi Alonso - Who would be the worst loss?
      Reply #60: Jul 28, 2009 02:26:53 am
      i would much rather keep alonzo though i dont wanna lose javier either!
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      Re: Javier Mascherano or Xabi Alonso - Who would be the worst loss?
      Reply #61: Jul 28, 2009 02:41:51 am
      Reckon we would do worse without Xabi than Masch.
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      Re: Javier Mascherano or Xabi Alonso - Who would be the worst loss?
      Reply #62: Jul 28, 2009 11:45:52 am
      Hey guys Mascherano is the biggest loss. He is on of the best defensive midfielders in the world(if not the best) alonso is more a playmaker player and we can find many playmakers but a player like Masch no we don't find
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      Re: Javier Mascherano or Xabi Alonso - Who would be the worst loss?
      Reply #63: Jul 28, 2009 12:09:11 pm
      They would both leave a dent in the team but I have never really warmed to Mascha, especially after that idiotic red he got against Manure and then refusing to leave the pitch, that was embarrassing. he is a very good Dm though but I think Xabo can do a very good  role as DM plus he gives a bit more in terms of creativity.
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      Re: Javier Mascherano or Xabi Alonso - Who would be the worst loss?
      Reply #64: Jul 28, 2009 04:52:46 pm
      Mascherano for me... captain of Argentina..need i say anymore?
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      Re: Javier Mascherano or Xabi Alonso - Who would be the worst loss?
      Reply #65: Jul 28, 2009 04:55:52 pm
      Yes please do . Because there are many defensive midfielder's in the world how many players are their with the range of passes that Xabi has ?
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      Re: Javier Mascherano or Xabi Alonso - Who would be the worst loss?
      Reply #66: Jul 28, 2009 05:25:29 pm
      This question is like asking a father who he will save out of his two drowning children

      Its really too awful to think about!

      Can we have an easier question please?

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      Re: Javier Mascherano or Xabi Alonso - Who would be the worst loss?
      Reply #67: Jul 28, 2009 06:24:55 pm
      Mach for me to mate although it could work well if they were to leave if we got 35m for both there is 70m push steve g back to midfield mabe with lucas then we could get Villa i was thinking Villa and offer Arsenal Bable and money in the region of 30m for Fabergras ?

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      Re: Javier Mascherano or Xabi Alonso - Who would be the worst loss?
      Reply #68: Jul 28, 2009 06:29:11 pm
      This question is like asking a father who he will save out of his two drowning children

      Its really too awful to think about!


      Its easy to answer to be honest, you throw their mother in too hope all three of them drown and then carry on your infidelity sleeping with a bevvie of beauties and your mistress  :f_tongueincheek:

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