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      Re: Formula 1
      Reply #3657: Mar 04, 2017 02:12:08 pm
      https://twitter.com/RetroRacingCo/status/837955964057837568

      The greatest? The stories about this guy in an f1 car are incredible.
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      Reply #3658: Mar 07, 2017 11:29:34 pm
      Here's a shock; McLaren having more problems
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      Reply #3659: Mar 08, 2017 12:27:28 am
      Here's a shock; McLaren having more problems

      The rate McLaren are going at I wonder how early it will be when Alonso says enough is enough.

      Ferrari looking quite good though as Lewis Hamilton notes. Loads of laps on the board, fast times on soft tyres, not really done too much on the ultra softs.
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      Reply #3660: Mar 08, 2017 12:34:31 am
      The rate McLaren are going at I wonder how early it will be when Alonso says enough is enough.

      Ferrari looking quite good though as Lewis Hamilton notes. Loads of laps on the board, fast times on soft tyres, not really done too much on the ultra softs.


      Afraid to get my hopes up after the last few years.
      So far they've been impressive.

      Honda absolutely abysmal.
      A sorry end to Alonso's F1 career.
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      Reply #3661: Mar 08, 2017 01:01:51 am
      Afraid to get my hopes up after the last few years.
      So far they've been impressive.

      Honda absolutely abysmal.
      A sorry end to Alonso's F1 career.

      Still a part of me clinging on to the possibility that he may get a Mercedes seat next year should they decide not to extend Bottas's one year deal even if in such circumstances Vettel taking that seat is more likely.
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      Reply #3662: Mar 08, 2017 06:52:25 pm
      The rate McLaren are going at I wonder how early it will be when Alonso says enough is enough.

      The rate they are going I will be surprised if they manage to get a car through the first lap of when then season actually starts.
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      Reply #3663: Mar 08, 2017 07:22:44 pm
      The rate they are going I will be surprised if they manage to get a car through the first lap of when then season actually starts.

      Indeed

      Dreadful so far for McLaren but I do hope they get sorted.

      Seb in the Ferrari is looking interesting judging by practise so far this season.
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      Reply #3664: Mar 10, 2017 06:06:33 pm
      A legend has passed away. John Surtees dies aged 83. The only man to have won the world championship on two wheels and four. A true great of motor racing. Rest in peace.
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      Reply #3665: Mar 11, 2017 12:37:56 am
      Some lovely iconic images posted by Ferrari in tribute of Surtees.














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      Reply #3666: Mar 11, 2017 01:06:13 am
      Another 2 stoppages for McLaren, this time the same electrical problem as before. Alonso was 11th fastest and didn't even get to 50 laps for the 3rd day running.

      Seriously McLaren, what is the point?! They don't have a clue what to do. They are in real trouble going into the opener, Alonso should have gone when there was the chance to, a driver of his quality deserves so much better than the crap McLaren are providing him with. "no reliability and no power", were Alonso's words.
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      Reply #3667: Mar 14, 2017 05:28:21 pm
      Loving Force India's new livery...

      We all love a bit of pink...
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      Reply #3668: Mar 14, 2017 06:48:42 pm
      Loving Force India's new livery...

      We all love a bit of pink...

       ;D



      Anything that deviates from the dull corporate silver/black that has become predominant in recent years is a good thing! I think I'll call this one the 'Pink Bazooka'.
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      Reply #3669: Mar 14, 2017 07:18:52 pm
      ;D



      Anything that deviates from the dull corporate silver/black that has become predominant in recent years is a good thing! I think I'll call this one the 'Pink Bazooka'.

      ;D

      Went for the Bubblicious myself ;D
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      Reply #3670: Mar 14, 2017 07:41:05 pm
      ;D

      Went for the Bubblicious myself ;D

      Ahh yes - bubblegum! Knew it reminded me of something!
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      Reply #3671: Mar 15, 2017 12:08:48 am
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      Reply #3672: Mar 15, 2017 12:52:20 am

      Liking the Barbie infused nuclear waste look!
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      Reply #3673: Mar 16, 2017 09:31:43 pm
      McLaren Honda's pre season of farce continues.


      McLaren explore Mercedes engine option after Honda problems


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      McLaren have made an exploratory approach to Mercedes about engine supply in the wake of problems with partner Honda.

      The move follows a dismal pre-season test programme for McLaren-Honda, in which the Japanese company's new engine was both unreliable and uncompetitive.

      McLaren are said to be evaluating options in the event the relationship with Honda cannot be made to work.

      McLaren and Mercedes were unavailable for comment.

      McLaren racing director Eric Boullier said during last week's final pre-season test that there was "no plan at all" to end the Honda relationship.

      Any switch to an alternative engine supplier would require McLaren to find a way out of its multi-year contract with Honda, which was signed in 2013.

      McLaren's contact with Mercedes was characterised by sources as informal and brief and has not led to any resolution on either side.

      But the Mercedes board and motorsport boss Toto Wolff are said to be open-minded about the possibility of supplying their former partner.

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      Linking up with Mercedes - or Renault, which is another option - would be a momentous decision for McLaren with huge potential consequences because the Honda engine deal is worth close to a net $100m annually to the team compared to a customer engine deal.

      As well as supplying free engines rather than paying the 17m euros (£14.8m) annual fee for a customer of Mercedes, Honda also pays half of McLaren's driver-salary bill and a significant sponsorship contribution.

      If the Honda partnership was ended, McLaren's main shareholders - Bahrain's Mumtalakat sovereign investment fund and Saudi businessman Mansour Ojjeh - would almost certainly have to plug the gap themselves until a major sponsorship deal could be found, something with which McLaren have struggled in recent years.

      Mumtalakat owns 50%, Ojjeh's TAG Group 25% and together they form the executive committee that runs McLaren. The remaining 25% is owned by former chief executive officer Ron Dennis, whose contract was not renewed in January and who no longer has any active role in the company.

      McLaren and Mercedes were factory partners for 15 years until the end of 2009, when Mercedes set up their own team, partly because of the souring of the relationship over a number of issues. McLaren continued to use the German company's engines for the next five years as a customer.

      The Mercedes engine has been the best in F1 since the introduction of turbo hybrid power-plants in 2014, when McLaren could finish only fourth in the championship, scoring only two podium finishes and no wins.

      When McLaren signed with Honda, Dennis gave as the main reason for leaving Mercedes that it was not possible to win in F1 unless a team was an official factory partner of a major engine manufacturer. It is an argument that continues to be made frequently by senior McLaren figures to justify the decision.

      But it appears McLaren are having doubts that Honda will ever produce a competitive engine and have decided that switching to a customer deal should at least be considered and the possibility explored.

      McLaren were the slowest team in pre-season testing, which concluded last Friday, and their fastest lap time was 2.7 seconds slower than pace-setters Ferrari.

      Boullier said in an interview with Spain's AS newspaper conducted during testing last week that he believed McLaren could win with a Mercedes engine.

      The Frenchman added that McLaren risked losing their star driver, two-time world champion Fernando Alonso, if they could not become competitive this year.

      The Spaniard joined McLaren for the start of the Honda deal in 2015, believing it would give him a better chance of winning the title than his previous team Ferrari. Alonso, whose contract with McLaren expires at the end of this season, has not won a race since May 2013.

      Boullier said: "He wants to be competitive because he has talent to show the world and to himself. And we need to be competitive to keep him happy.

      "If we're competitive he'll be happy and if not he'll take his own decisions."

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/39290908
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      Reply #3674: Mar 21, 2017 08:39:09 pm
      All this 'managing expectations' bullshit corporate talk (otherwise known as Horner speak) is in full swing seeing as we are just a few days out from the first race of the season. 'Mercedes and Hamilton are the MASSIVE favourites' etc etc. Yawn. I would love just one interview where Horner strayed from that corporate manager mode. Go on Christian - tell us what you really think. Tell us what Geri really thinks of Scary Spice.
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      Reply #3675: Mar 23, 2017 08:38:53 pm
      Looking forward to the F1 curtain raiser this weekend..

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      Reply #3676: Mar 23, 2017 09:38:33 pm
      Looking forward to the F1 curtain raiser this weekend..



      Me too. Can't wait.

      Predictions?

      On testing alone I'm going for a Ferrari win. Kimi ideally but more likely that Vettel will win. Ferrari to start the season stronger but Mercedes to overtake them in the development race throughout the season. 

      Would love to see a Lewis v Seb battle for the title with Lewis coming out tops. Much better driver in my view.
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      Reply #3677: Mar 23, 2017 11:16:35 pm
      Me too. Can't wait.

      Predictions?

      On testing alone I'm going for a Ferrari win. Kimi ideally but more probably more likely that Vettel will win. Ferrari to start the season stronger but Mercedes to overtake them in the development race throughout the season. 

      Would love to see a Lewis v Seb battle for the title with Lewis coming out tops. Much better driver in my view.

      Can't wait either.

      Going for a Seb win this weekend.
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      Reply #3678: Mar 24, 2017 01:22:01 am
      One of the most fascinating aspects of this season will be Paddy Lowe and how his influence will shape things to come now he's back at Williams.

      Only 1 year in the last 20 (I believe) has he been involved in a season where one of his cars did not win a Grand Prix - that season being 2006. Of course not saying that Williams will win a race this season (after all - McLaren and Mercedes did have the resources to win in all of those seasons!) but you can't underestimate his engineering excellence and he's probably the best signing of the season. He is great news for all fans of Williams for the next few years!
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      Reply #3679: Mar 24, 2017 11:36:41 am
      Hamilton looking beastly already! Watched first practice last night. Those cars look thrilling to watch particularly in the hands of Lewis. Seems like a long time since we saw an f1 car thrashed into a corner at the last moment.

      edit: I know it's early days but Alonso finishing in 12th place, 2.4 seconds off Hamilton's time (and a further second or so off from the Red Bull's) must constitute as some sort of progress.
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