Mark Gonzalez (to Real Betis)

Real Betis are interested in Liverpool winger Mark Gonzalez.
Betis coach Luis Fernandez rates the Chile international highly and hopes to bring the former Albacete midfielder back to Spain next season.

Gonzalez has struggled for form and fitness this term and Betis directors are convinced they can prise him away from Anfield with an offer of £3 million.

£3 million.  Not sure about the merits of that offer?

Will Gonzalez get another season. We certainly held out for him for a long time?  He seemed to excel in Spain so he must be worth more to Betis than £3 million?

I personally don't think he will go.  At his age probably deserves another crack at it next season.

£3 million.  Not sure about the merits of that offer?

Will Gonzalez get another season. We certainly held out for him for a long time?  He seemed to excel in Spain so he must be worth more to Betis than £3 million?

I personally don't think he will go.  At his age probably deserves another crack at it next season.

Agreed. Rafa isn't the sort to let players go after one season.
Thats only if your Kromkamp.

mark gonzalez and olivier kapo are objetives of betis for the next season according to it says the press.   
I me do not create it, I do not see lopera (owner of the club) spending much money

They can have him, very average player

give him one more year to proove his worth

I'd give him more than one more year to prove his worth, he is only 22 he shown glipses of what he can do

betis does not bring lent players, we say here: I do not raise chicks so that others eat them

He had a good game against Arsenal.  Rafa won't ditch him after one season.

I can't see him going either. He hasn't adjusted to the physical side of the prem yet, that's why he usually goes missing in games. Needs some time to adjust and then he'll hopefully be able to impose himself down the wing a lot more. For the work that went in to getting him, it would be daft to offload him so soon.

I can't see him going either. He hasn't adjusted to the physical side of the prem yet, that's why he usually goes missing in games. Needs some time to adjust and then he'll hopefully be able to impose himself down the wing a lot more. For the work that went in to getting him, it would be daft to offload him so soon.

He needs to be more confident taking players on.. also i think he has built up too much muscle because he lost lost a yard or 2 of pace since last season. His thighs are too bulky

No I don't think Rafa will let him go this season. He is only young after all. We need to keep the likes of Gonzalez because they will gain experience from the Premiership and the Champions League. Which will make them better players.

I think Rafa should give him another chance, he is only 22 and needs to adjust from Spanish football which is a lot less physical than the premiership.

He needs to be more confident taking players on.. also I think he has built up too much muscle because he lost lost a yard or 2 of pace since last season. His thighs are too bulky

I hope you dont make a habit of looking at mens thighs Rafa and I'm glad to see you have stopped posting on the hot man thread.
In my opinion Gonzo needs another year i know a lot of players get the excuse of "he's settling in" but in his case i think its true. I wish he would take the man on more as he always seems to go so far then turn and pass back or inside, maybe he lacks confidence also i would agree with Ra Ra Rafa about the point of his weight as he does appear to be chunkier than before, not on the thighs though!

I think he should get another crack next season.  He has been out with injuries, so it's not fair to say get rid of him already...give him another shot I say...

gonzales is a good playa he wont go for 3 million

No way Benitez is going to sell him after we chased him for so long. He needs at least two years to settle. Hes come from a country completly different to England and hes only 22. Kewell took ages to play well but last season he was one of our best players. You can even look at people like Drogba and Cristiano Ronaldo they both took a while to settle in but are now two of best players in the world. We are to hasty on judging players. Give Gonzalez 2 years and he will be one of the best wingers in the premiership.

one more season....then bye bye. as for pennant he is from these shores...knows the game and has been poor

another season... then will see if he is the right man.

needs some time to adjust to the premiership i think he could be a very good player for us. Maybe next season if he stays clear of injuries and gets a good run.

Although Gonzalez hasnt shown his full potential at LFC, i truely believe he is worth more than 3m and his performance when he was on load in spain proves this, and should he be let go, which i dont think he will after only 1 season and all the trouble we went to to finally sign him, but if he does go, i think he will go for double that in spain!!

b4 Gonzarlez signed 4 us he looked to be a great winger but has'nt shown his true potential yet, personally add give him another season b4 letting go, but there is a great replacement i believe Quaserma would be a brillant player to sign in the summer wot evey1 think

buying winger form abroad is tricky because they all want more time on the ball,, take robben at chelsea, he hates tacking and working back, rafa wants a chap who does at least run back and get behined the ball and close down the space, to help out the defenders,, wright phillips is crap at positional play but great at putting a cross over plus hes faster then any of the wide men we have,,,,,, gonzalez has been a total watse of money,, riise is better there at the moment and thats saying something,,,,, a fit kewell over gonzalez any day of the week at least he gets behined the ball and plays more tactickly....... the only winger who is the best by a mile is that sh*t at old trafford..........  lennon is fast and tricky but to inexperienced and not good enough for us,,,, simao i have big doubts of his attitude and if he wanted to play for us he could of done by now,,,,,,, joaquin went to valencia for big money and would have been great but even he has done nothing over 2 years........ buying a winger on left or right side is hard.......

£3m?! No way. He has been injured but I don't think he's shown us his best yet.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N156037070524-0837.htm

Looks a done deal after 1 season. So the clear out begins...

One face sums me up: :'(

The fee is £5M apparently so fair enough i think.  We need far better players if we are to win the league next year.

Gonzarlez out but the Reds have agreed a deal to sign Argentine left-winger Sebastian Leto

i've heard 5 mil as well, would have liked him to be given another year but with speedy and zenden going makes room for a new left winger

Gonzarlez out but the Reds have agreed a deal to sign Argentine left-winger Sebastian Leto

Source?

I just had a look Nic and this was from Soccerway.com?:

Argentine starlet joins Liverpool´s Hispanic contingent

Written by: AFP
   
Liverpool have swooped to sign Argentine midfielder Sebastian Leto, seen here in 2006, from Buenos Aires team Lanus.
 
BUENOS AIRES (AFP) - Liverpool have swooped to sign Argentine midfielder Sebastian Leto from Buenos Aires team Lanus, the Argentine club´s vice-president Nicholas Russo confirmed.

Liverpool, who already boast a huge contingent of Spanish and South American players and coaching staff, have paid 3.6 million dollars for the 20-year-old.

Leto is a midfield playmaker who scored six goals in 34 appearances for Lanus last season.

"I am going to a team with a lot of history that won the Champions League two years ago," said Leto.

"I still can´t believe it. I have seen Manchester (United) matches on television and now I could end up facing them.

"It will be difficult. I don´t know what awaits me but I want to play soon. It is possible that I will have only a few chances and I must prove that I am ready.

"I am fast and there (England) the counter attack is vital."

Leto will join compatriot Gabriel Paletta at Anfield but will hope to make a greater impression.


We seen Gonzalez not being able to cut the mustard and now he's on his way. I'm not too surprised to be honest. I never thought he had the quality for the prem myself like.

 

HMM. 6 goals in 34 appearances though?

Mark Gonzalez is set to leave Liverpool for Real Betis after one season at the club.
Rafa Benitez today confirmed the two sides had "almost" reached an agreement over the Chilean winger.
 
Bolo Zenden, whose contract expires in the summer, has also been told he can talk to other clubs.
 
Benitez said: "I was talking with him before and I said he could talk with other teams. He knows the situation.
 
"It's clear some players will leave. We almost have an agreement with Real Betis for Mark Gonzalez."

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N156037070524-0837.htm

it had confirmed

 

Mark Gonzalez is set to leave Liverpool for Real Betis after one season at the club.
Rafa Benitez today confirmed the two sides had "almost" reached an agreement over the Chilean winger.
 
Bolo Zenden, whose contract expires in the summer, has also been told he can talk to other clubs.
 
Benitez said: "I was talking with him before and I said he could talk with other teams. He knows the situation.
 
"It's clear some players will leave. We almost have an agreement with Real Betis for Mark Gonzalez."

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N156037070524-0837.htm

it had confirmed

 

That was posted earlier today ed 

Gonzalez is not a liverpool player didn't show any fight whats so ever, any one that thinks we need to give him more time is totally thick, we had this chap watched for a whole season, and Rafa waited to bring this guy to the club even though he was injured............. so don't tell me about waiting for it to happen we haven't got the time or patience any more we want trophies and Rafa wants them more than you and I trust me on this.......... go riddance to him....... and any one that thinks cisse needs another go then please don't make me laugh, does anyone remember the fa cup final,,, yes i know he scored but that was a volley that was 6 yards out,  remember the cup final when at the and Rafa was having a go at him about work rate and keeping the ball in the corner.................. ..... don't anyone tell me cisse is worth 14 mill its the biggest waste of money in English football................ ....

We still have Kewell but I still like Gonzalez
I think he needs the time to adjust himself

don't anyone tell me cisse is worth 14 mill its the biggest waste of money in English football................ ....

that honour has got to go to veron

What's the crack with Gonzo? Has he actually left. Any official confirmation?

Hes gone now officially. He wasnt really up for the physical side of the Premiership. I still would of giving him untill January 08 to see how he was doing and if he was still play bad then ye sell him.

^^ Where have you got that from?

A different forum and they had a link. But that forum isnt working now because its being upgraded so ill post it later k.

Nothing on the club website, can't have happened yet.

Liverpool are reportedly ready to secure first option on Real Betis starlet Juande, as part of a deal that will take Mark Gonzalez back to Spain.

Real Betis are believed to be leading the chase for the Chilean winger who has also been linked with Real Zaragoza and Real Sociedad - where he spent time on loan last year.

Sevillian sources claim that Betis are lining up a €3.5million (£2.3million) deal for Gonzalez.

Liverpool are ready to do business, but as part of the move Rafa Benitez is looking to line-up a deal for Juande.

The 20-year-old midfielder, who made the breakthrough into the Betis first at the end of last season, is seen as one of the brightest prospects in La Liga.

Juande is a defensive midfielder, a position Liverpool are currently well stocked, but Benitez is building for the future and would seemingly be more than happy with letting the youngster develop at Betis for at least another season.

link  http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=470677&CPID=23&clid=14&lid=&title=Betis+aim+to+strike+Reds+deal&channel=&

Can't be selling him for under 5m.  He had a good campaign in la liga surely someone will have interest in him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Gonz%C3%A1lez

Officially a Betis player now, so much for the next big thing 

We should of sold Harry and kept Speedy, hope we don't live to regret it!

IMO don't think he was given a good enough chance, i think he would have been better in his second season.

Im surprised how many Super reds supporters on here are willing to give Mark Gonzalez another season to prove himself.  To me he never at any point looked like the speed merchant that he was billed as being or having the silky skills to rival ronaldo like was suggested by some reporters when we chased him and signed him.  Very average when he did get fit and play and nowhere near good enough to be a world renowned winger, and thats what we need if we want to compete, we need a super confident speedy winger that can deliver in big and small games. Who that may be i dont know but maybe his name might have been Alesandre Pato who just signed for Chelsea (I think) cos we didnt get off our arses again and get pen to paper, in anycase gonzalez isnt in the top twnety wingers in the world so why should he play for us!?? we are liverpool after all huh?!? lets splash some cash and get some quality instead of trying to unearth gems all the time.  the anelka's and henrys of the world dont come round that often (I.e. buying them for narly nothing and selling them for massive amounts).  Lets buy quality!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Gonz%C3%A1lez

Officially a Betis player now, so much for the next big thing 

We should of sold Harry and kept Speedy, hope we don't live to regret it!

Just because Wikipedia says so doesn't mean sh*t. They don't have a link to an article. I'll wait for official confirmation, but certain he WILL eventually leave. Probably the deal will be done after the Copa America.

in spanish:
He has confirmed it:

Mark González: "Es un hecho que parto al Betis"

ImageDesde sudamérica ya se da por hecho el fichaje de Mark González por parte del Betis, y ha sido el propio futbolista el que lo ha confirmado. "Es un hecho que parto al Betis, el equipo se mantuvo en primera división. Estoy muy contento de partir a un nuevo club, donde están las ganas de seguir demostrando un buen nivel". El jugador chileno habría firmado un contrato para las seis próximas temporadas, y se convertiría en el primer fichaje oficial de cara a la próxima temporada. Mientras, en Argentina aseguran que Mariano Pavone viajará este miércoles a España para cerrar también su incorporación a la entidad verdiblanca. Desde el club no aseguran nada, algo que tampoco debe extreñar porque ha sido la tónica habitual con los últimos fichajes béticos, y en el asunto entrenador tampoco se sabe nada nuevo ya que Marcelino tiene sus ideas muy claras y está a la espera de que Lopera se las acepte.
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MARK GONZÁLEZ JUGARÁ EN EL BETIS LA PRÓXIMA TEMPORADA

Mark González es internacional chileno, tiene 23 años y esta temporada ha disputado 36 partidos con el Liverpool en los que anotó 3 goles.

24.05.2007

El Liverpool cha confirmado, a través de su web oficial, que el hasta ahora centrocampista chileno de los "reds", Mark González, militará en el Betis la próxima temporada.

El propio técnico del subcampeón de Europa, Rafa Benítez, precisó hoy que los dos clubes han alcanzado "casi" un acuerdo definitivo para el pase del ex de la Real Sociedad y el Albacete a las filas heliopolitanas.

En este sentido, precisó que también el ex barcelonista Bolo Zenden abandonará el equipo británico, con el que concluye contrato. "Está claro que algunos jugadores se irán y también tenemos un acuerdo con el Betis por Mark González", precisó acerca del extremo zurdo.

Primer fichaje

De este modo, y pese a que el Betis no ha certificado aún su continuidad en Primera, González, que, curiosamente, estuvo cerca de fichar con el Sevilla hace algunos años, se convierte en la primera incorporación bética para la próxima campaña, a la espera de la plena confirmación del anuncio por parte de la entidad que dirige Ruiz de Lopera.

Mark González es internacional chileno, tiene 23 años y esta temporada ha disputado 36 partidos con el Liverpool en los que anotó 3 goles. Anteriormente ha militado en el Universidad Católica de Chile, así como en el Albacete y la Real Sociedad.

Edu I found this on www.liverpoolfc.tv : -

GONZALEZ READY FOR COPA AMERICA

Liverpool winger Mark Gonzalez is expected to start for Chile when they play Ecuador in the Copa America group match tonight.
Chile are in a tough group that also includes Brazil and Mexico and Gonzalez will be hoping his country can get off to a good start against Ecuador.
 
Meanwhile Javier Mascherano and Argentina kick-off their Copa America tournament on Thursday night when they face USA.

Looks like he's still a Liverpool player - for now.

GONZALEZ OFF TO A WINNING START
Mark Platt 28 June 2007

Mark Gonzalez played his part as Chile came from behind to open their 2007 Copa America campaign with a 3-2 win over Ecuador.
The Liverpool winger played the full 90 minutes at the Cachamay Stadium, in Puerto Ordaz on Wednesday night.
 
Chile trailed 2-1at the interval but claimed maximum points with two goals in a dramatic final ten minutes.

and still is today according to www.liverpoolfc.tv

Hope rafa has a change of mind and keeps him..

so has Gonzalez left yet?

Your man Sebastian Leto likes a feckn brilliant player

gonzalez good ridence buy buy..........

waste of time. he has gone or is going for 2.5 mill around that value and maybe an option on one their players at a later date something like that, dont care really get him out,

gonzalez good ridence buy buy..........

waste of time. he has gone or is going for 2.5 mill around that value and maybe an option on one their players at a later date something like that, dont care really get him out,

  You really have got a problem pal. Have you ever said anything good about anyone ?If he has gone then ,good luck to him,he wasn't good for us but to be fair he only had one season.I don't understand why you spout so much venom towards players.

Gonzalez will fit in at Betis, says Hector Cuper
17th July 2007
Daily Mail
Newly appointed Real Betis coach Hector Cuper has approved the Spanish club's move for Liverpool winger Mark Gonzalez.

Betis narrowly avoided relegation from the Primera Liga last season after finishing in 16th place, and are currently busy rebuilding their squad.

Gonzalez, who previously spent a year on loan with Real Sociedad, is thought to be close to finalising his transfer, along with Portuguese goalkeeper Ricardo and Argentina striker Mariano Pavone, after failing to establish himself at Anfield.

"We will do everything possible to create a team that is strong but that also has a winning mentality," said Cuper, who was confirmed at Betis on Monday after signing a one-year contract.

"The important thing is that this team has a strong personality.

"They (the club's prospective new signings) are all very good players. Ricardo has a great mentality, Pavone has played well for two years in Argentina and Gonzalez can improve a lot."

Gonzalez could be presented alongside the other transfer targets later today.

Adios amigo

"......Gonzalez can improve a lot."

No Sh*t!!!!! He can improve a hell of alot because he was such a disappointment for us

Should this be locked now? He has dissapeared off the .tv teamsheet list so I think that may be official confirmation!

Good luck to the lad! It's a shame he didn't deliver for us but they can't all make it can they? Good luck in the future Gonzo!

he has been presented

Mark Gonzalez Transfer thread locked.

JD it ain't locked mate  Thought he'd come back

It is now.

It is now.

You stickied it as well Tommo!

Topic un-stickied.