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      Reply #23: Aug 21, 2009 02:14:52 pm
      Ok then, have they done better than AC Milan? No.
      If he was so good wouldn't all the top teams accomodate this? Regardless of the country.
      We changed our formation to suit Gerrard and Torres?
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      Reply #24: Aug 21, 2009 03:15:08 pm
      Giggs - the most overrated player ever!!!

      90% of the time the final ball is .....and has always been shocking
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      Reply #25: Aug 21, 2009 07:18:21 pm
      Giggs - the most overrated player ever!!!

      90% of the time the final ball is .....and has always been shocking

      TOO RIGHT!! Player of the Year my hairy arse muffins.
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      Reply #26: Aug 21, 2009 07:20:03 pm
      But do you honestly think that he is a better player for staying at Roma, than he would be if he had gone to one of the previous teams mentioned? I know we'll never know but it's just a thought.
      I know if i had players like Zidane, Raul, Figo setting me up and finishing my passes every week, I'd feel more confident that my team is going to win with me getting the best out of my ability.
      Ok then, have they done better than AC Milan? No.
      If he was so good wouldn't all the top teams accomodate this? Regardless of the country.
      We changed our formation to suit Gerrard and Torres?
      Totti is italian, and most italians prefer to play at italian clubs, just like english prefer to play in the EPL. Especially in the recent past before the Serie A went down the drain. The past decade Roma has been at least just as succesfull in the Serie A as Juve and AC Milan, I wouldn't call that such a small club. Totti's from Rome himself, it's not that weird that he prefers not playing at any rival clubs. Maybe he's not a better player cause of it, I don't know, but it does add to his personality. And it's not like he has been or is playing with idiots, he's played with some pretty good players over time. He might have been more succesfull as a player if he would've went somewhere else, but would Roma have been as succesfull if he did? I doubt it. That deserves my respect.
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      Re: Overrated players (Non-LFC)
      Reply #27: Aug 21, 2009 09:15:19 pm
      Dimitar Berbatov!... what daft knob head would be stupid enough to pay £30m for a sulky little cabbage like him?
      You would have to be drunk mental or both!
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      Reply #28: Aug 21, 2009 09:51:48 pm
      Michael Carrick - £18m, rip off! He does nothing to justify his price. He's a good player, thats it. Good, not very good, not great and not brilliant as the United biased media depict him as. Put him in a team without match winners and he would crumble under the pressure. At United he breezes through on Rooney and (previously) Ronaldo and Tevez' work! His lack of ability will be seen this season!
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      Reply #29: Aug 22, 2009 12:29:38 am
      Beckham!

      Sorry, I dont see it, I never have.  I'll give him Free Kicks.  Not to sound commercial but he can "Bend It". Other than that, I dont see the hype. He might be a cover model and married a Spice Girl, but that doesn't mean sh*t on the pitch. He hasn't done sh*t in L.A. I never thought he was worth all the money.  I saw him play at Man. U. He never looked like a million dollar player.

      Am I missing it?
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      Reply #30: Aug 22, 2009 03:36:33 am
      Berbatov - Horrible, lazy, arrogant, selfish etc.

      Ibrahimovich - Goes missing in big games, 40mil + Eto'o??

      Cech - Not really that good

      Buffon - Never understood why some people rate him so highly, best keeper in the world? No. So how can he be the best player in the world? He's nowhere near Casillas.

      Lescott - How is he worth 20million? I really have no idea.

      Vidic - Good against poor teams, can't cope with a true forward like Torres because he's too dirty.
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      Reply #31: Aug 22, 2009 04:43:01 pm
      Dimitar Berbatov!... what daft knob head would be stupid enough to pay £30m for a sulky little cabbage like him?
      You would have to be drunk mental or both!

      Err i always said the lad would come good and start scoring goals ::)
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      Reply #32: Aug 23, 2009 04:45:45 pm
      Who's the most overrated player in the world?

      I think it's Cristiano Ronaldo, and unlike most haters, I will give a couple of reasons for it, and attempt to dispel some common myths and misconceptions that often get associated with the striker.

      1. "He's a winger, and that's why his scoring 42 goals was so amazing."
      He was not a winger that season. Look at the statistics: Ronaldo had by far the most shots of anyone that season, more than any other striker. And if you look at where he spent the majority of his time, it was in the striker role, he and rooney were the strikers on that team.

      Notice how much his scoring went down when another striker joined the team, Berbatov, and how low it was when Nistelrooy was there,. Notice that his goal tally when there was another striker on the team was roughly the same! Coincidence? I think not.

      2. "He's a great scorer."
      Not true; he's a great free-kick taker and header of the ball, but nothing more.
      Notice how few of those goals required vast amounts of skill: the free-kicks and some of the headers. The majority of the time, Ronaldo was given perfect, sublime passes and had to do very little. And for those that will say that his positioning is what's genius, I offer the following reply: perhaps. But notice that most of the time Ronaldo had to move very little to score, or when he was making runs, they were fairly obvious ones.

      Ronaldo may be very good at positioning, I'm not the god of football knowledge, but if it is it's one of the few things he's good at, because look at how many shots he takes! That is not a great percentage.

      Ronaldo can only score goals when his whole team is on fire; he can't create for himself. Proof: look at him when his team plays tough competition; he routinely failed to score against top teams in the premier league and even when Manchester United won the Champions league he was shut down by Barcelona.

      Ah, you say, but didn't he score in the final against chelsea? Yes, OFF A perfect PASS TO THE HEAD! See what I mean? A great striker can create goals for himself. You want to see a Ronaldo whose a great striker? Look at the first Ronaldo's 1996/1997 season every goal, also on youtube. Now compare the two videos of the Ronaldos and tell me which one created goals for himself.

      3. "He's a great dribbler."
      Debatable. While there is no doubt that ronaldo has some of the quickest feet football has ever seen, and great pace, fantastic dribbling is about what you do after you beat your man. Ronaldo doesn't score after he beats a man (as you now know from watching his goalscoring video) and he almost never crosses it either.

      Overwhelmingly, what he does after he beats a man is PASS BACK! The reason for this is that Ronaldo likes to take his time facing a man one on one, and so by the time he beats him the defenders have covered everybody and his only option is to pass back. Also, notice, how reluctant he is to take somebody on unless he's on the wing. The reason for this is that he seems to be incapable of taking on multiple defenders. He used to do it sometimes in his first years at United but since 2006 just stopped.

      So in conclusion, dribbling is about what you do after you beat your man and while Ronaldo may have many highlight videos, they never show what he does after he beats one defender because in the vast majority of cases he passes back, loses the ball, or falls down like my three-year-old sister. Again, if you want to see what a REAL great dribbler does watch a video of the first ronaldo, ronaldinho, thierry henry, or zidane, they become alive after they beat their man.

      4."Well, Ronaldo still scores a lot of goals for a winger."
      True! I am not saying Ronaldo is a terrible player! Right now, minus the 42 goal season, (which I explained he played as an okay striker in) ronaldo is scoring about as much as figo did with fewer assists. I think that Ronaldo may one day be as great as figo, but unless he improves on the things mentioned here, no better, and certainly not the greatest player in the world.
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      Reply #33: Aug 24, 2009 12:50:49 pm
      Fat Frank Lampard. Big time bottler
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      Reply #34: Aug 24, 2009 12:55:35 pm
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      Reply #35: Aug 24, 2009 02:56:18 pm
      John Terry by a country mile. Helped for years by having the world's best goalkeeper behind him, one of the world's best centre backs alongside him and the world's best defensive midfielder infront of him. The guy is not fit to lace Carvalho's boots.

      Very limited footballer who lacks pace and positional sense but obviously he's a "winner" who'll die for the cause which automatically makes him better than what he is.
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      Reply #36: Aug 24, 2009 06:38:12 pm
      I find it absolutely hilarious that people can actually say that Frank Lampard, John Terry and Totti are over rated.

      Frank Lampard may not be as good as Gerrard but to score 20 goals in 5 consecutive seasons in the best league in the world is `world class` in my opinion.

      John Terry is playing alongside the best players in the world too but he is up there with the best, he is everything I hate about Chesea but at his best I would put him in the top3 in the world.

      Totti is a Roman and I've heard people say that Roma are not a world class team so how can he be that good even if a team was built around him? The answer is that Roma are not far from being similar to Liverpool over the last 10 years ability wise. But yes we are happy to say that Gerrard is the best in the world at what he does even though we have not been at our best.

      Players that I think are over rated are the players like Ibrahimovic who played for a Championship winning team like Inter and scored against lower level of teams and has never proven it against a Big Team.
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      Reply #37: Aug 25, 2009 04:51:33 pm

      Totti is a Roman and I've heard people say that Roma are not a world class team so how can he be that good even if a team was built around him? The answer is that Roma are not far from being similar to Liverpool over the last 10 years ability wise. But yes we are happy to say that Gerrard is the best in the world at what he does even though we have not been at our best.


      What has our love for Gerrard got to do with Totti? Gerrard is one hundred times more effective and better than Totti! Obviously Roma fans are going to rate him because he is their player, whereas most people in the world rate Gerrard not just Liverpool fans.
      How are Roma 'world class'? A 'world class' team should be challenging for the Champions League every season, like we do. When was the last time Roma did that?
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      Reply #38: Aug 25, 2009 05:32:25 pm
      Lesscott and Roque Santa Cruz...both had only 1 good season and then nothing special
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      Reply #39: Aug 25, 2009 05:51:53 pm
      Michael Carrick - £18m, rip off! He does nothing to justify his price. He's a good player, thats it. Good, not very good, not great and not brilliant as the United biased media depict him as. Put him in a team without match winners and he would crumble under the pressure. At United he breezes through on Rooney and (previously) Ronaldo and Tevez' work! His lack of ability will be seen this season!

      Agree 100%. Carrick is a decent passer, but not a good playmaker, he can't tackle, he can't strike a ball. He's just above ordinary, IMO.
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      Reply #40: Aug 25, 2009 05:58:32 pm
      Anderson. How much did the scum spend on him? Was it £17M? Or 25? He's absoultely hurrendous, along with the rest of their ageing midfield.
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      Reply #41: Aug 25, 2009 06:08:36 pm
      I wouldn't say Frank Lampard and John Terry are overrated.
      Frank Lampard isn't as complete as Steven Gerrard but he's a good player. He's score 20 goals or more for 5 consecutive seasons. He can shoot from free kicks and from outside the box. IMO, 2005 was his best year.
      John Terry, may lack the pace but he's big and has the ability to read the game.

      Xabi Alonso is a cheaper and better version of Michael Carrick.

      I think Nani and Anderson are overrated. And I don't see why Buffon is one of the world's best goal keepers. I think van der Sar and Cech(before he got that head injury) are better than Buffon.
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      Reply #42: Aug 27, 2009 02:22:53 pm
      I dont like him but Ronaldo is not overrated for a winger to score 40 goals in a season is phemomanol. del piero is over rated what on earth has he done
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      Reply #43: Aug 28, 2009 06:42:10 pm
      I dont like him but Ronaldo is not overrated for a winger to score 40 goals in a season is phemomanol. del piero is over rated what on earth has he done

      agreed but hes still a cocky, diving, portugese tw*t!....and he always will be :)
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      Reply #44: Aug 28, 2009 10:35:19 pm
      Got to be Berbatov !! this guy makes Voronin look a world beater ,surprised he hasn't been sold on by now but there again .....most pub teams are choosy about their players
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      Reply #45: Aug 28, 2009 10:37:06 pm
      Got to be Berbatov !! this guy makes Voronin look a world beater ,surprised he hasn't been sold on by now but there again .....most pub teams are choosy about their players

      only since he went to scum i rated him when he played at spurs as a reasonable threat

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