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      jamo174
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      Three things you like & dislike about Rafa?
      Oct 07, 2009 06:09:59 am
      Could you name 3 things that Rafa consistently does that you like and 3 things he does that annoy you?
      « Last Edit: Oct 07, 2009 07:50:37 pm by Reslivo, Reason: Changed topic title. »
      JoeyLFC
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      Re: 3 things
      Reply #1: Oct 07, 2009 07:57:06 am
      can you not make stupid topics? delete this
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      Re: 3 things
      Reply #2: Oct 07, 2009 08:01:38 am
      Like:
      1. Tactically neutralises the other team's strengths (especially in the Champions League).
      2. Insists that the team can improve, even when we win 6-1.
      3. Wears a red tie.

      Dislike:
      1. Waits till the 60th minute to make substitutions regardless of what is going on in the game.
      2.
      3.

      Couldn't think of two others.
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      Re: 3 things
      Reply #3: Oct 07, 2009 08:08:32 am
      Like:
      1. Tactically neutralises the other team's strengths (especially in the Champions League).
      2. Insists that the team can improve, even when we win 6-1.
      3. Wears a red tie.

      Dislike:
      1. Waits till the 60th minute to make substitutions regardless of what is going on in the game.
      2.
      3.

      Couldn't think of two others.

      Of course you can improve, we conceded a goal. Not a hard one that ;)

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      Re: 3 things
      Reply #4: Oct 07, 2009 08:22:54 am
      1 sticks with a winning formation
      2 never  accepts to the media that we are a 2 man team...has faith in the squad
      3. Preserves an image of always being competitive for a trophy

      But

      1 blinded of players inadequacies
      2 not enough trust in youth
      3 too many poor buys
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      Re: 3 things
      Reply #5: Oct 07, 2009 08:40:12 am
      can you not make stupid topics? delete this

      I don't see why it's stupid.

      Like:

      1. His faith in the squad.
      2. His tactical nous.
      3. His undying love for the club.

      Unlike

      1. Substitutions.
      2. Gives youth players little chance to impress. Once they perform well in one game, they're gone the next.
      3. Has not pulled out a gun on the Yanks.
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      Reply #6: Oct 07, 2009 09:05:34 am
      massaging his goatee when were getting hammered and the crazy hand gestures to the players
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      Re: 3 things
      Reply #7: Oct 07, 2009 09:14:13 am
      Like
      1. Tactics. He has a real smart mind up there, sometimes doesn't have the players at his disposal to release it.
      2. The respect he commands from the players, signs of a top manager.
      3. His love for the club.

      Dislike
      1. Taking to long to make a sub when it is needed.
      2. Not much use of the youth
      3. Not selling Voronin :D
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      Re: 3 things
      Reply #8: Oct 07, 2009 12:45:17 pm
      Three things I love about The Boss!

      1. For simply getting what our club and city is all about and for giving me one of the best night's of my life in Istanbul. The man will become an honorary scouser when he does finally leave!

      2. For simply having the cojones to slag off Ferguson and telling it like it is in that supposed "Rafa's Rant." He was spot-on in every way.

      3. Winding the press up and tw*ts like Richard Keys and Andy Gray, who try to consistently blame zonal marking for ANY of our defeats.
      « Last Edit: Oct 07, 2009 02:54:49 pm by HUYTON RED »
      Esoteric Mist
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      Re: 3 things
      Reply #9: Oct 07, 2009 02:14:59 pm
      1. Very proffesional. Doesn't give the media anything to feed off on.
      2. Doesn't change his emotion whether we win or loose. Some people might think he should lighten up but I think its fine. He's always concentrating on how we can improve, which I like.
      3. Loyal to the club. Could have easily left for Real Madrid but chose to stay with us.

      3 Dislikes

      1. Don't feel he gives everyone a fair chance, Babel for one.
      2. A lot of his tranfer targets are debatable. Yes I know some of the reason is due to the financial constraint but still. Arsene wenger buys cheap but still Gets world class players. Arshavin was 11 mill, we could've bought him. Barry was bought for about 8 mil? We were willing to pay 20 so why not buy him?
      3. Needs to find a way to get young players more confident to play at premier league level. Another Micheal Owen would be nice.
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      Re: 3 things
      Reply #10: Oct 07, 2009 02:22:49 pm
      Likes
      1. He's a master tactician. We're feared in Europe. Hell no one could demolished Madrid the way we did and Barca also.
      2. Given strict amount of budget, he could create a hell of a squad.
      3. His static emotions.

      No dislikes sorry to disappoint you.

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      Re: 3 things
      Reply #11: Oct 07, 2009 02:23:21 pm
      babel and  lucas too! :D
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      Re: 3 things
      Reply #12: Oct 07, 2009 02:24:54 pm
      Like

      1 - standing up to anyone and everyone
      2 - his affection towards the club and city
      3 - his knowledge of the history and traditions

      Dislike

      1 - persisting with below par players
      2 - singing his own praises a little too much i.e. "we're ranked number 1 in Europe" when in reality that means nothing
      3 - moaning about money on a regular basis
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      Re: 3 things
      Reply #13: Oct 07, 2009 02:32:49 pm
      Like:
      1. The way he maintains his composure after an excellent result.
      2. The way he stands up to the media and isn't afraid of saying the truth i.E. what he said about Slur Alex last season. That was just brilliant.
      3. His connection with the club and understanding the history and traditions behind it.

      Dislike:
      1. Can be stubborn at times.
      2. His tactics sometimes are baffling.

      Can't think of a third dislike.
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      Reply #14: Oct 07, 2009 03:19:09 pm
      1. his modesty
      2. loyalty
      3. tactical nous

      1. stubborness
      2. sometimes baffling team lineups and subs
      3. doesn't praise players personally
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      Re: 3 things
      Reply #15: Oct 07, 2009 03:48:28 pm
      Like: Tactical genius
      Record vs top 4
      His goatee

      Dislike
      Rotation
      Faith in Lucas
      Standard of English and Pronounciation.
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      Re: 3 things
      Reply #16: Oct 07, 2009 03:50:11 pm
      Standard of English and Pronounciation.

      it is actually very good, he just pretends to have a sh*t standard of English when he doesn't want to talk or reply to some of the gobs***e sports press.
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      Re: 3 things
      Reply #17: Oct 07, 2009 04:10:27 pm
      1) Making the most of average players
      2) Istanbul
      3) bringing in Torres.

      No dislikes.
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      Re: 3 things
      Reply #18: Oct 07, 2009 04:50:00 pm
      Likes:

      1) Love for the city, fans and the club.
      2) Tactical God.
      3)'The Rafa Rant'

      (lots more likes by the way! :D)

      Dislikes:

      1) Doesn't make any changes until at least 60-65 mins.
      2) Sticking by players who aren't good enough.
      3) The odd strange line up (but I guess it's not really Rafa at his finest without the odd one :D)
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      Re: 3 things
      Reply #19: Oct 07, 2009 04:54:14 pm
      1) Doesn't make an changes until at least 60-65 mins.

      People might disagree about Benayoun starting at chelsea, but I'm sure everyone agree's that He should have come on at half time at least. Don't know why rafa just has to wait till exactly that time before he makes a substitution. Frustrating at times.
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      Reply #20: Oct 07, 2009 05:10:43 pm
      with the poor buys, one thing i do like is the fact that he does move most of them on pretty quickly
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      Re: 3 things
      Reply #21: Oct 07, 2009 05:39:06 pm
      1/Sticks by his players through thick and thin.
      2/He always seems to get his tactics right.
      3/I love the way he made the spine of our team much stronger/Bringing Torres here.

      dislikes/
      1/Why do Rafa never seem to leave anyone at the half way line at corners.
      2/The crossing of the ball from the wing has always been a problem.
      3/He should have someone on the posts at corners against.....
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      Re: 3 things
      Reply #22: Oct 07, 2009 06:54:43 pm
      1. total defence of the club from idiots trying to undermine it
      2 champs league tactical nouse(apart from florentina of course)
      3. fernando torres

      dislikes

      1.not playing benayoun all the time
      2.lucas leiva
      3. ranting/sneering at refs/fourth officials(show some dignity rafa your the manager of l.f.c not any other tinpot team)
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      Reply #23: Oct 07, 2009 07:04:31 pm
      Like:

      1) His tactical brain - can undo and outwit any opposition.
      2) His patience - if many of us were in his position we'd have either of left or commited either murder or suicide by now.
      3) Always looking to improve and planning for the future.

      Dislike:

      1) Not buying in some vital areas for the team (noted that he hasn't been financially backed and hasn't had things made easy)
      2) Not giving some players a run in the team to bed in better. (Cough Ryan Babel Cough)
      3) Bringing everyone back for corners.
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      Reply #24: Oct 07, 2009 07:53:47 pm
      Like:
      1. Tactical nouse (kicking manc scums arse in their own back yard last season to name one match)
      2. Un-selfless defence of the club & players
      3. Torres
      + a hell of a lot more

      Dislike:
      1. Some sh1te player buys
      2. Publicly wanting Barry last season (forcing Alonso to leave this season)
      3. Squad rotation just as we are getting settled with current 11.
      taken me 30 mins to think of these
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      Re: Three things you like & dislike about Rafa?
      Reply #25: Oct 08, 2009 08:19:16 am
      he cracks up. no celebrations.Always says mentality
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      Re: Three things you like & dislike about Rafa?
      Reply #26: Oct 08, 2009 08:21:11 am
      he cracks up. no celebrations.Always says mentality

      He cracks up?
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      Re: Three things you like & dislike about Rafa?
      Reply #27: Oct 08, 2009 08:24:11 am
      massaging his goatee when were getting hammered and the crazy hand gestures to the players
      coco loso you trogalani Rafa never makes crazy hand gestures  to the players he only thinks mentality about the problems we have.
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      Re: Three things you like & dislike about Rafa?
      Reply #28: Oct 08, 2009 11:48:15 am
      Like:
      1. Master tactician
      2. Master in mind games
      3. Loves the club and appreciates the boot room tradition

      Dislike:
      1. Stubborn.
      2. Defending corners without defenders at the posts, and we've conceded a few.
      3. Not changing his game plan earlier whenever we are trailing and we ran out of time a couple of times.
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      Re: Three things you like & dislike about Rafa?
      Reply #29: Oct 08, 2009 11:52:53 am
      coco loso you trogalani Rafa never makes crazy hand gestures  to the players he only thinks mentality about the problems we have.

      Trogalani?
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      Re: Three things you like & dislike about Rafa?
      Reply #30: Oct 08, 2009 01:12:16 pm
      Ohh 1 dislike I just remembered. In his post-match interviews he always says the exact same thing.

      "Yeah the team worked hard, had a good mentality and played really well. We knew it would be tough coming here and scoring goals, but before the game we were talking about creating chances and getting the right mentalilty into the players. We knew if we created a lot of chances, we would score goals."

      "Yeah, we always knew it would be tough coming here. We played agaisnt a good team, but we made mistakes. If you make mistakes, good teams willl punish you. We didn't create a lot of chances. If you don't create chances, you cannot score goals and you cannot win games."

      Its always along the same lines. I reckon Rafa is a robot with pre-recorded interview lines.
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      Re: Three things you like & dislike about Rafa?
      Reply #31: Oct 08, 2009 02:24:51 pm
      Like

      1. His Love for the Club
      2. Bringing the best of so-called (by media, not me) average players like Finnan, Carragher, Riise etc
      3. Hilarious interviews

      Dislike
      1. Not showing enough faith on British players (Bellamy, Crouch, Pennant)
      2. Standing up for his favorite players like Kuyt and Lucas, even when they're on poor form

      Nothing much really.. One thing for sure. I love the man and i want him to stay for many many years to come.
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      Re: Three things you like & dislike about Rafa?
      Reply #32: Oct 08, 2009 05:58:03 pm
      Likes:    1.  He understands the history of the club and what it stands for    i.e Hillborough
                  2.  He loves the fans and the city
                  3.  Fernando Torres  :-*
                  4.  His interviews

      Dislikes:  1.  His stubborness
                    2.  His lack of celebration when we score


      Other than that, I love the man to bits and want him to stay for a very long time  ;D
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      Re: Three things you like & dislike about Rafa?
      Reply #33: Oct 08, 2009 06:59:15 pm
      I like his beard, it makes him look like a dashing, rogueish matador.

      I don't like zonal marking.
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      Re: Three things you like & dislike about Rafa?
      Reply #34: Oct 08, 2009 10:36:59 pm
      I had to add a 4th like..Sorry.

      Likes.

      1.  Knows the game and knows how to play each team individually.
      2. Tactical master.  He's like a Chess Player..always looking ahead
      3.  Knows what it means to be Liverpool Football Club and supports the Fans.
      4.  2005...Istanbul. They won. Enough said.

      Dislikes.

      1.  Doesn't seem to get a hold of "set pieces". His defence on corners is a bit aggravating.
      2.  Gets involved in the Business aspect of LFC..Would really prefer he cocentrated on the Players and game.
      3.  Weird substitutions..Either to early or to late.
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      Re: Three things you like & dislike about Rafa?
      Reply #35: Oct 09, 2009 11:41:03 am
      Likes.

      1.Love of the Club. Understands History. Is committed and so is his family

      2.Tactics. Attention to detail. Won't accept second best or prima donnas and is his own man. Oh... and he can bring in Torres.

      3.Takes anybody on, is honest, Love his funny rebuffs. Calling Sir Alex 'Mr Fergusson' and wearing a tracksuit at a match amongst many.


      Dislikes.



      1. Would love to see some youth tried out as Subs.......Nemeth Spearing...etc

      2. Sometimes too cautious perhaps.

      3. Is fast becoming the newspaper's  first port of call for gossip or controversy after the Alex spat.....
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      Reply #36: Oct 11, 2009 05:32:25 pm
      Likes:
      1. His tactical acumen.
      2.His composure even if the team scores or a goal is conceded.
      3. He does not need to chew gum to a fresh breath.
      Dislikes:
      1. Playing players who are out of form all the time.
      2. Not playing players who are in-form.
      3. None. .
      Love you RAFA
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      Re: Three things you like & dislike about Rafa?
      Reply #37: Oct 11, 2009 05:54:12 pm
      Like - The way he always uses the following words.......squad, focus, my idea is, for sure,clearly,its good for him...good for us  ;D
      Master Tactician
      Always focused on the team/club and whats best for it.

      Dislike - Nothing really apart from some of the signings, but all managers make mistakes
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      Re: Three things you like & dislike about Rafa?
      Reply #38: Oct 11, 2009 06:38:59 pm
      LIKES:
      - always has faith in the club and the players
      - brings in the right sorta player for the mentality of the club (i.e. no wankers) also meanin he gets the club
      - continues to perform even when the structure above him is completely fu**ed (owners etc)

      DISLIKES:
      - Late subs
      - not playin by form
      - not giving youth squad enough of a break into the first team.

      Loads more likes not rli any more dislikes...
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      Re: Three things you like & dislike about Rafa?
      Reply #39: Oct 11, 2009 09:28:35 pm
      Likes:
      1) Will rarely criticize a player in public
      2) The way he can wind up anyone without even having to try!
      3) Will always fight for whats in the best interests of the club and the fans (i.e. Not taking sh*t from the owners.)

      Dislikes:
      1) Stubborness (although that can be good at times)
      2) Subs
      3) Pushed to think of a 3rd, seems to be a difficult man to get along with. Again though has best interests of the club at heart.

      Love how everyones dislikes are basically the same, but the likes are all different, just shows how great the man is!
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      Re: Three things you like & dislike about Rafa?
      Reply #40: Oct 11, 2009 09:35:33 pm
      I dislike Rafa's big fat belly - he's piled it on since he came.
      I also dislike that stupid goatee. I think they should be outlawed. I used to have a beast of a goatee!
      I dislike when someone like Riera plays sh*t, isn't arsed, gets subbed on 65 minutes, and Rafa shakes hands with him as he comes off. Should be glaring at them when they're not putting a shift in, not congratulating them!

      I like his cheeky smile.
      I also like that no-one fazes him. No-one at all.
      And I like that he gave us the Istanbul DVD to watch. Traore in a box and everything (as Phil Thompson would say - he finishes every sentence with it).
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      Re: Three things you like & dislike about Rafa?
      Reply #41: Oct 11, 2009 10:59:24 pm
      Likes:
      1) The passion he shows
      2) His knowledge of the Champions League
      3) His patience

      Dislikes:
      1) The way Robbie Keane was treated
      2) The post match "we created alot of chances" after the defeats
      3) Selling Alonso
      4) Not telling those yank pricks to f**k off
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      Re: Three things you like & dislike about Rafa?
      Reply #42: Oct 11, 2009 11:01:41 pm
      That was 4.

      Cheat.
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      Re: Three things you like & dislike about Rafa?
      Reply #43: Oct 11, 2009 11:14:10 pm

      Sorry I'll change it

      Likes:
      1) The passion he shows
      2) His knowledge of the Champions League
      3) His patience

      Dislikes:
      1) The way Robbie Keane was treated, Selling Alonso
      2) The post match "we created alot of chances" after the defeats
      3) Not telling those yank pricks to f**k off

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