Blaming Rafa?: Here are some very valid points to use.

F .....K Me   RedLFC.


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If you think that, then you my friend have not been watching any of our games this season.  These are more or less the same players that did so well last year, yet this year the majority of them have been totally inept.

my friend they are not the same players, where is Alonso? Rafa is the one to be asked, he wanted to sign Barry, okay we paid the price. another thing is that the tactics are not sound, have you really read the article?

F .....K Me   RedLFC.


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I feel sorry for his poor missus.

"You fail to acknowledge, that Aquilani was given a medical by a top specialist who then relayed to Rafa that Aquilani would be fit by the end of August/early Septmeber, however when we got him back to our own Medical staff after the Ink had dried on his contract we find out he wont be fit & ready until late November. I noticed you have not included this as again it does not suit your opinion."

You mean we didn't give him a medical before he was signed? Even more incompetence!

"Ermm how can you motivate away three individual errors, especially when two of them see's you a goal and a man down, I thought the lads were doing well even with ten men and we may have got something from the game had it not been for another individual error that led to a goal when wait for it wait for it, we were launching on the counter attack with these slow un-creative players you referred to."

It's the manager's job to motivate these errors away. How many shots did we make on their goal in the whole ninety minutes? How fast is Lucas? How fast is Kuyt? These two players are the anchor that is holding back the team, but because they are favourites of Benitez, he very rarely leaves them off the team sheet. Drop Lucas and Kuyt , drop Gerrard back into mid field and bring on either Babel, Benny, Ngog or Pacheco to replace Lucas and Kuyt.

Take your Rafa pink coloured glasses off.

 

You mean we didn't give him a medical before he was signed? Even more incompetence!

Yes we gave him a medical before we signed him, he had a medical the one i was referring too by a top specialist who was supposedly better suited/qualified to make an accurate prognosis on his injury, can hardly call that incompetence !

It's the manager's job to motivate these errors away. How many shots did we make on their goal in the whole ninety minutes? How fast is Lucas? How fast is Kuyt? These two players are the anchor that is holding back the team, but because they are favourites of Benitez, he very rarely leaves them off the team sheet. Drop Lucas and Kuyt , drop Gerrard back into mid field and bring on either Babel, Benny, Ngog or Pacheco to replace Lucas and Kuyt.

Please tell how from the sidelines is Rafa going to really going to motivate the team, Granted he had chance at half time after went a goal down, some may say he even managed to lift the dropped heads a little from their start to the second half, then low & behold a player gets sent off and we concede another goal from an individual error, Its not like he can stop the game assemble the lads and give them an inspirational motivational speech to inspire them to victory is it ?

Ive asked for Gerrard to be played centrally myself, I have also asked for both Lucas and Kuyt to be dropped myself but dare I say it looking at it reasonably and perspectively not through "Rafa Rose Tinted Glasses", we have not really had the option to do that in most games this season due to injuries etc.

I'm all for criticism of Rafa lads but hey ho try and be insightful about it ffs.

Yes we gave him a medical before we signed him, he had a medical the one I was referring too by a top specialist who was supposedly better suited/qualified to make an accurate prognosis on his injury, can hardly call that incompetence

Well they chose a great great top specialist who gave them the wrong diagnosis., then didn't they? As I said incompetent.

Please tell how from the sidelines is Rafa going to really going to motivate the team, Granted he had chance at half time after went a goal down, some may say he even managed to lift the dropped heads a little from their start to the second half, then low & behold a player gets sent off and we concede another goal from an individual error, Its not like he can stop the game assemble the lads and give them an inspirational motivational speech to inspire them to victory is it ?

Told you you must have been watching another game. Mascherano was sent off before half time. And his motivation doesn't happen from the sideline. It happens on the training ground and throughout the club. You won't believe me but he has lost the team.

Ive asked for Gerrard to be played centrally myself, I have also asked for both Lucas and Kuyt to be dropped myself but dare I say it looking at it reasonably and perspectively not through "Rafa Rose Tinted Glasses", we have not really had the option to do that in most games this season due to injuries etc.

Complete garbage.

Well they chose a great great top specialist who gave them the wrong diagnosis., then didn't they? As I said incompetent.

Complete garbage.

Complete Garbage / weve played 26 games this season Gerrard has featured in 15 of them, theres 11 games where Gerrard could not feature centrally.

One thing I will say is this, If Rafa was leading the team to all these results without all the contributing circumstances I would be the first person calling for his head, however that is not the case there is contributing circumstances and any one who can't see that and is asking for him to be replaced, will see a new manager come in working under exactly the circumstances.

Complete Garbage / weve played 26 games this season Gerrard has featured in 15 of them, theres 11 games where Gerrard could not feature centrally.

"we have not really had the option to do that in most games this season due to injuries etc."

Being unable to play in 11 games out of 26 doesn't count as "most".

One thing I will say is this, If Rafa was leading the team to all these results without all the contributing circumstances I would be the first person calling for his head, however that is not the case there is contributing circumstances and any one who can't see that and is asking for him to be replaced, will see a new manager come in working under exactly the circumstances.

No. Hopefully, a new manager would have a different mindset than Benitez. 

"we have not really had the option to do that in most games this season due to injuries etc."

Being unable to play in 11 games out of 26 doesn't count as "most".

No it does not count as most but a big chunk of them, now look at other injuries Yossi, Riera etc they have also had an impact as to whether Gerrard could play centrally as it leaves open to would Riera have been available to play left wing thus leaving Yossi open to play in the hole behind Nando ?, Like I said look at the situation as a whole. Injuries have affected Rafa's selections to suggest they haven't is just out right stupidity.

You won't believe me but he has lost the team.

Or maybe those shitbags who are supposed to fight for the shirt, the sameones bought by Rafa, could try fighting for him!

With the exception of about three players (all foreign), the rest are a bunch of overpaid gutless tw*ts.

I feel sorry for his poor missus.

Nowt wrong with my poor missus, she gets it daily, twice on Sundays, I'm not religious you see.

Like I said look at the situation as a whole. Injuries have affected Rafa's selections to suggest they haven't is just out right stupidity.

Then tell me which injuries made him start with such a defensive formation against the League's bottom team yesterday?

Then tell me which injuries made him start with such a defensive formation against the League's bottom team yesterday?

Aquilani, Riera and Babel.

Plus Yossi coming on hardly told Rafa 'why didn't you start with me?'

But that's not his point and you know it. Ignorance isn't a good trait.

Having something like 13 players injured is going to affect your side and trying to gain momentum.

I'm a big Rafa fan and want him to stay but have to admit the football we are playing this year is awful at best, I would mind losing matches as match if at least we were trying to play football but to be honest I'm sick of the ball being played back to Carragher and he launching it up the field trying to find Torres when did he become Alonso why is he hitting the ball long at every opportunity surely that is not what Rafa is telling him.

 I don't think the formation has worked this season and I dunno how long Rafa can afford to presist with it. Some of the players need to be dropped as well some of them are putting in worse performances then I've seen from any Liverpool players and they keep managing to be picked.

An example is Kuyt he has been truly awful this season surely Rafa is not picking him on last season, his performance was a disgrace yesterday and if I was him I'd donate my wage to charity but will Kuyt be dropped no he will start against Wolves he seems to be undroppable.

Aquilani, Riera and Babel.

Plus Yossi coming on hardly told Rafa 'why didn't you start with me?'

But that's not his point and you know it. Ignorance isn't a good trait.

Having something like 13 players injured is going to affect your side and trying to gain momentum.

Starting with Dossena instead of Yossi, was hardly an attcking choice. Changing Isua for Aurelio was not an attacking change. Changing Spearing for Lucas (for God's sake at 88 minutes and 2-0 down!) was hardly an attcking substitution.

The thirteen players who were injured were not all injured at the same time and we aren't the only side to suffer injuries to key players.

Benitez is an extremely cautious and defensively minded manager. If that's the type of manager you want then I'm sure you're happy.

The only sign of being pathetic is people voicing their frustrations and playing the victim.

If you cannot see what Rafa has done in 5 seasons, then your an idiot. Simple as that.

Rafa cops enough sh*t off everyone for me to just simply repeat those who I agree with and build the pressure on him an the club.

But beyond every little f**king thing that happens it seems that the spirit of Liverpool FC that we were famous for is disappearing as fast as faith.

Whatever made you start to barrack for the side is the reason we were so great in the past.

Who else do you want to play there? Spearing? Aquilani's been injured and Gerrard. When Gerrard is fit he plays behind the sole striker.

well play gerrard in midfield and 2 upfront --kuyt or benny as sub  or trust and play your 20 million man  aqua as heis being fit for almost 2 months. You need to change the system which didnt work for many months

Then tell me which injuries made him start with such a defensive formation against the League's bottom team yesterday?

I wouldn't have said it was a defensive formation to be honest, I'd say the team Rafa fielded should have been good enough to beat Portsmouth, on paper anyway how ever what ever formation / tactics Rafa plays they do not account for three errors that effectively cost us the game. The injuries half the team not fully match fit half the bench not fully match fit, Aquilani out, Babel just returning Benayoun carryng a niggle he has all season ring any bells ?

Rather than Rafa shouldering the blame for failing to clear a ball from a set piece, should Johnson not be held accountable ?, as I'm sure as hell fire it was not Rafa who headed the ball away.

Rather than Holding Rafa responsible for Mascherano getting sent off for a rash tackle, shouldn't Masch be held accountable ?, as I'm sure as hell fire it wasn't Rafa who lunged in bearing in mind it was a very bad decision from Masch to lunge in like that on the half way line granted if it had been on the 18 yarder to prevent a clear chance on goal, you could sympathies with him.

Rather than hold Rafa accountable for the third goal , why not lay some of the blame on Yossi's door as it was he who lost the ball cheaply on the half way line that ultimately led to the second goal, as I'm sure as hell fire it wasn't Rafa who got dispossessed.

Again look at it perspectively Rafa' tactics/formation were working, as Rafa himself stated we were controlling the game, now remove them three individual errors the games perfectly poised, the players heads have not dropped, who's to say that we wouldn't have kept on controlling the game and come away with 3 points.

I know thats merely speculation but it would be fair to say in the worst case scenario had it not been for individual errors and not formations/tactics we'd have got something from that game ?

I wouldn't have said it was a defensive formation to be honest, I'd say the team Rafa fielded should have been good enough to beat Portsmouth, on paper anyway how ever what ever formation / tactics Rafa plays they do not account for three errors that effectively cost us the game. The injuries half the team not fully match fit half the bench not fully match fit, Aquilani out, Babel just returning Benayoun carryng a niggle he has all season ring any bells ?

Rather than Rafa shouldering the blame for failing to clear a ball from a set piece, should Johnson not be held accountable ?, as I'm sure as hell fire it was not Rafa who headed the ball away.

Rather than Holding Rafa responsible for Mascherano getting sent off for a rash tackle, shouldn't Masch be held accountable ?, as I'm sure as hell fire it wasn't Rafa who lunged in bearing in mind it was a very bad decision from Masch to lunge in like that on the half way line granted if it had been on the 18 yarder to prevent a clear chance on goal, you could sympathies with him.

Rather than hold Rafa accountable for the third goal , why not lay some of the blame on Yossi's door as it was he who lost the ball cheaply on the half way line that ultimately led to the second goal, as I'm sure as hell fire it wasn't Rafa who got dispossessed.

Again look at it perspectively Rafa' tactics/formation were working, as Rafa himself stated we were controlling the game, now remove them three individual errors the games perfectly poised, the players heads have not dropped, who's to say that we wouldn't have kept on controlling the game and come away with 3 points.

I know thats merely speculation but it would be fair to say in the worst case scenario had it not been for individual errors and not formations/tactics we'd have got something from that game ?

Arf!!!!    And if my Aunty had had balls she'd have been my uncle.

No if your Auntie had balls, she'd clearly be inbred which all comes down to incest being a family thing, so keep it in the family and if your family is interbreeding I'm just wondering are you typing with fingers ?

How droll! That's what I like about message boards. When people can't justify their aguments then they use personal insults.

Marvellous.

How droll! That's what I like about message boards. When people can't justify their aguments then they use personal insults.

Marvellous.

I justified my argument mate, and it was not a personal insult It was a light hearted tongue in cheek reply, to you justifying your argument with "Arf!!!!    And if my Aunty had had balls she'd have been my uncle.", which goes a long way to backing your argument no ?

Kettle/Pot grimey arse springs to mind.

I justified my argument mate, and it was not a personal insult It was a light hearted tongue in cheek reply, to you justifying your argument with "Arf!!!!    And if my Aunty had had balls she'd have been my uncle.", which goes a long way to backing your argument no ?

Kettle Pot/Black springs to mind.

Where did I insult you? And if it was a lighthearted tongue in cheek reply, as you say,  why did you immediately delete it?

Tone it down on those innuendo's, Red.