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      Christopher Buchtmann (Fulham)
      Feb 01, 2010 12:01:30 pm
      Just seen on SSN that they're poised to buy him and that Benitez hasn't been impressed with him.

      WTF?
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      Reply #1: Feb 01, 2010 12:03:55 pm
      http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5909144,00.html

      Skysports.com understands Liverpool youngster Christopher Buchtmann is poised to join Premier League rivals Fulham.

      Fulham have made a move to sign the highly-rated German in a cut-price deal as Roy Hodgson looks to bolster his squad.

      Buchtmann joined Liverpool in the summer of 2008 from Borussia Dortmund and he was tipped for a big future at Anfield.

      The 17-year-old was a member of Liverpool's youth side that reached the FA Youth Cup final and he helped Germany win last summer's European Under 17 Championship.

      However, Buchtmann has failed to impress Reds boss Rafa Benitez and he has allowed the German, who can play at left-back or left midfield, to leave for Fulham.


      Just a loan maybe?
      Selling a 17yo doesn't sound like a good idea. (Unless it's for big money.)
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      Reply #2: Feb 01, 2010 12:04:50 pm
      F**k that. Better than some of the stuff we've seen on the left.
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      Re: Christopher Buchtmann (Fulham)
      Reply #3: Feb 01, 2010 12:08:06 pm
      Apparently there are 'issues' behind the scenes.

      From what I've heard he hasn't been getting his head down.
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      Reply #4: Feb 01, 2010 12:12:01 pm
      Must be off the field that he hasn't impressed because he was one of the better youth players
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      Re: Christopher Buchtmann (Fulham)
      Reply #5: Feb 01, 2010 12:13:09 pm
      Fulham have made a move to sign the highly-rated German in a cut-price deal as Roy Hodgson looks to bolster his squad.
      So if true not only will we sell a good prospect but sell him on the cheap. Please be some sort of sell on clause if that's the case
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      Re: Christopher Buchtmann (Fulham)
      Reply #6: Feb 01, 2010 12:17:34 pm
      never even heard of him. cant say im arsed one bit.
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      Reply #7: Feb 01, 2010 12:18:14 pm
      Top quality players! Get your cheap young top quality players!
      Everyone must be sold! Wage bill must be lowered!
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      Re: Christopher Buchtmann (Fulham)
      Reply #8: Feb 01, 2010 12:22:35 pm
      Ridiculous, only heard good things about him. If he turns into a cracking player I'm going to be pissed!
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      Reply #9: Feb 01, 2010 12:32:10 pm
      http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2010/02/01/german-teenager-christopher-buchtmann-moves-from-liverpool-fc-to-fulham-100252-25730262/

      LIVERPOOL have agreed a deal to sell young left-back Christopher Buchtmann to Fulham for £100,000.

      The 17-year-old German joined the Reds’ Academy in 2008 after making the switch from Borussia Dortmund.

      Buchtmann was part of the Reds team who reached last season’s FA Youth Cup final and last summer he played a starring role in Germany’s European Under-17 Championship triumph. He was named among UEFA’s top 10 stars of the future.

      However, after being promoted to Melwood he has struggled to impress this season and has been off-loaded to the Cottagers.

      Great. Now we can afford Silva.

      Someone please close this.
      It's making me sad.
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      Re: Christopher Buchtmann (Fulham)
      Reply #10: Feb 01, 2010 12:33:14 pm
      £100,000?

      That's just F***ing stupid I see what they mean by "cut price".
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      Reply #11: Feb 01, 2010 12:36:12 pm
      This was reported a couple hours ago, and seems to have come to fruition. I was hoping the fee reported when i first saw the story (100,000 was the figure then) was below the mark but it isn't obviously.

      F**k-a-doodle-doo.
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      Reply #12: Feb 01, 2010 12:57:30 pm
      What a F***ing joke.

      I'm sorry, but £100,000 is a pittance nowadays for a player, even a young one. Was hoping we'd see him in the next couple of years, but not for another club FFS.

      Not happy.
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      Re: Christopher Buchtmann (Fulham)
      Reply #13: Feb 01, 2010 01:07:48 pm
      Typical Liverpool. 100 grand for a kid who will go on to big things. If we were buying him hed be going for over a million with add ons. STOP SELLING OUR BEST YOUNG TALENT!!!!

      Edit: Fulham hjave just signed Nicky Shorey who plays same position as Buchtmann so might scuper that deal with some luck?
      « Last Edit: Feb 01, 2010 01:14:53 pm by Brian78 »
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      Reply #14: Feb 01, 2010 01:15:20 pm
      hang on, hes a 17 year old kid whoose never played a cup game for us never mind a PL game.

      I've never heard of him myself to be quite honest but ok, some of you might have, and maybe he has got some promise about him but that doesn't automatically mean hes worth 3 million or something like that. Some premiership footballers aren't even priced at a sum like that.

      100K is nothing unusual, selling a kid that pretty much nobody knows anything about. If he was THAT good, we wouldnt be selling him anyway and his name would have been spoken about alot more than it has.
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      Reply #15: Feb 01, 2010 01:16:52 pm
      hang on, hes a 17 year old kid whoose never played a cup game for us never mind a PL game.

      I've never heard of him myself to be quite honest but ok, some of you might have, and maybe he has got some promise about him but that doesn't automatically mean hes worth 3 million or something like that. Some premiership footballers aren't even priced at a sum like that.

      100K is nothing unusual, selling a kid that pretty much nobody knows anything about. If he was THAT good, we wouldnt be selling him anyway and his name would have been spoken about alot more than it has.

      He is a very good player. Whatever about selling him but were practically giving him away like we do with all our departing players. Big mistake in letting him go even bigger in not making good money on him
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      Reply #16: Feb 01, 2010 01:17:16 pm
      hang on, hes a 17 year old kid whoose never played a cup game for us never mind a PL game.

      I've never heard of him myself to be quite honest but ok, some of you might have, and maybe he has got some promise about him but that doesn't automatically mean hes worth 3 million or something like that. Some premiership footballers aren't even priced at a sum like that.

      100K is nothing unusual, selling a kid that pretty much nobody knows anything about. If he was THAT good, we wouldnt be selling him anyway and his name would have been spoken about alot more than it has.

      I'd hardly consider him unknown:

      Buchtmann was part of the Reds team who reached last season’s FA Youth Cup final and last summer he played a starring role in Germany’s European Under-17 Championship triumph. He was named among UEFA’s top 10 stars of the future.

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      Reply #17: Feb 01, 2010 01:18:30 pm
      hang on, hes a 17 year old kid whoose never played a cup game for us never mind a PL game.

      I've never heard of him myself to be quite honest but ok, some of you might have, and maybe he has got some promise about him but that doesn't automatically mean hes worth 3 million or something like that. Some premiership footballers aren't even priced at a sum like that.

      100K is nothing unusual, selling a kid that pretty much nobody knows anything about. If he was THAT good, we wouldnt be selling him anyway and his name would have been spoken about alot more than it has.

      Mate, just because you haven't heard of him doesn't mean he isn't worth more than what is quoted.

      He is quality in our youth squad, brilliant left boot and a great runner down the left. He was superb for the German national youth side recently and definitely one of our brightest prospects.

      No he won't fetch 3m but he is worth atleast 500,00k - 1m plus all the various add ons.

      PS: Good players, whether they are youth or seniors, get sold.
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      Reply #18: Feb 01, 2010 01:19:32 pm
      Kids come and go all the time though and if there was something special about him he would have been involved in first team football by now, making the squad a few times, especially in the league cup where rafa tends to bring in quite a few kids.

      Im suprised to see so many of you are that bothered really, my predicition is he will be plaiying for Gillingham or somebody in 2 or 3 years.
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      Reply #19: Feb 01, 2010 01:22:06 pm
      Kids come and go all the time though and if there was something special about him he would have been involved in first team football by now, making the squad a few times, especially in the league cup where rafa tends to bring in quite a few kids.

      Im suprised to see so many of you are that bothered really, my predicition is he will be plaiying for Gillingham or somebody in 2 or 3 years.

      Hes under 18 of course he wasnt going to feature in the first team. Pacheco is just about on the fringes and look at how good he is.
      Rafa brings in Reserve players not youth team players
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      Reply #20: Feb 01, 2010 01:22:36 pm
      Im suprised to see so many of you are that bothered really, my predicition is he will be plaiying for Gillingham or somebody in 2 or 3 years.

      Well, given we lack quality in depth in general on the left hand side, maybe you shouldn't be all that surprised.

      Aurelio is class but injury-prone, and 30, and I believe Benayoun has hit his thirties not that long back as well.

      It would have been nice to have another youngster pushing through like Insua has done than have to worry about the owners investing in those positions.

      But I hope you're right and he turns out sh*t, because he's no longer our player.
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      Reply #21: Feb 01, 2010 01:28:45 pm
      True ayrton and its always good to see players come through from the youth set up, but i think we would have seen slightly more of him or heard abit more if he could cut it at this level or is bound to be a fantastic player.

      Not always the case but certainly the majority of cases, you hear great things about players well before they make it. I can remember gerrards name being spoken about for a year or 2 before his debut and what everybodys like with Pacheco now is abit of an example of that.

      But this lad, i've heard nothing about.

      Crouchino, i no thats just me mate but I think if this kid was anything special somebody i would no his name by now. I've not seen anything on the forum about him until today either.

      Wish this kid well for his future but it hasn't fazed me we've moved him on for a sum of 100K since hes never featured for LFC.
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      Reply #22: Feb 01, 2010 02:18:03 pm
      Its a shocker.BTW did we make a profit on him?  :P
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      Reply #23: Feb 01, 2010 02:21:12 pm
      True ayrton and its always good to see players come through from the youth set up, but I think we would have seen slightly more of him or heard abit more if he could cut it at this level or is bound to be a fantastic player.

      Not always the case but certainly the majority of cases, you hear great things about players well before they make it. I can remember gerrards name being spoken about for a year or 2 before his debut and what everybodys like with Pacheco now is abit of an example of that.

      But this lad, I've heard nothing about.

      Crouchino, I no thats just me mate but I think if this kid was anything special somebody I would no his name by now. I've not seen anything on the forum about him until today either.

      Wish this kid well for his future but it hasn't fazed me we've moved him on for a sum of 100K since hes never featured for LFC.

      After Dalla Valle he was one of the best players in the youth setup. Doesnt matter now but it seems rather odd to be offloading one of our better youngsters so cheaply
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      Reply #24: Feb 01, 2010 02:28:13 pm
      100k? Great! That's Babel's one week's wages sorted!
      I'm just pissed now seeing that we let him go for 100k. Looked really promising.
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      Reply #25: Feb 01, 2010 03:24:01 pm
      He was my favourite youth player that wasnt Pacheco :(

      What the hell? Hes put in some brilliant performances for the ressies and youth team and had all the makings of a top class winger. This is sickening for only 100k.


      never even heard of him. cant say im arsed one bit.

      I see you know your sh*t about LFC.
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      Reply #26: Feb 01, 2010 03:30:09 pm
      Bit pissed off seeing this. Like JD though, I've heard a couple of things today about him not getting his head down.
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      Reply #27: Feb 01, 2010 03:37:58 pm
      He was my favourite youth player that wasnt Pacheco :(

      What the hell? Hes put in some brilliant performances for the ressies and youth team and had all the makings of a top class winger. This is sickening for only 100k.


      I see you know your sh*t about LFC.

      I've not heard of a 17 year old kid whoose never played for LFC.

      I musn't be a fan or have any knowledge on Liverpool football club then.
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      Reply #28: Feb 01, 2010 03:46:30 pm
      we will see in a few years time if he'll make it , maybe we will pay millions to buy him back  Who knows

       I watched him in the under17 tournament and he was always one of the best players in the german squad
       Time will tell
       
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      Re: Christopher Buchtmann (Fulham)
      Reply #29: Feb 01, 2010 03:47:56 pm
      Buchtmann was a bright young prospect.... FACT  
      he left us for Fulham for a paltry sum.... FACT    
        
      this is a disgrace.. no matter what spin we put around it..  
        
      if our academy can't handle kids with attitude problems, then it is a poor academy.. it is very natural for kids to be immature and have attitude problems..  
        
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      Reply #30: Feb 01, 2010 03:50:45 pm
      I've not heard of a 17 year old kid whoose never played for LFC.

      I musn't be a fan or have any knowledge on Liverpool football club then.

      Dont be so ignorant then. Maybe you should find out who he is before you say you're "not arsed."

      if our academy can't handle kids with attitude problems, then it is a poor academy.. it is very natural for kids to be immature and have attitude problems.. 

      Funny how Ryan Babel takes immaturity and generally being a w**ker to new levels yet he still gets chance after chance with the first team. *sigh*

      Rafa's biggest weakness for me is his inability to use youth. Frustrating stuff.
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      Reply #31: Feb 01, 2010 04:06:23 pm
      I've not heard of a 17 year old kid whoose never played for LFC.

      I musn't be a fan or have any knowledge on Liverpool football club then.

      Not at all mate. I think 1 or 2 are trying to say, in a roundabout way, that if you dont know who he is then it might be wide of the mark saying you could be arsed if he goes or not. He is genuinely a top young player

      My main argument here is the paltry sum of money welet these talented lads go for.
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      Reply #32: Feb 01, 2010 04:23:06 pm
      Done Deal, time to lock
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      Re: Christopher Buchtmann (Fulham)
      Reply #33: Feb 01, 2010 04:24:19 pm
      Further discussion on Buchtmann can be done here:

      http://www.lfcreds.com/reds/index.php?topic=27456.0

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