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      Why do you think Rafa is not playing aquilani from start more often?

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      Why do you think Rafa is not playing aquilani from start more often?
      Mar 29, 2010 09:34:15 am
      It seemly baffles me to think why every time I see the team news Aquilani is always on the bench when the stats say that every time he has played from the beginning we have won.Also,he is the most creative midfielder we have and I don;t see why Rafa bought him if he doesnot want to play him.So why do you think he is doing this?
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      Reply #1: Mar 29, 2010 09:42:39 am
      To delay payments to Roma, haven't you heard were skint ;D
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      Reply #2: Mar 29, 2010 09:44:38 am
      To delay payments to Roma, haven't you heard were skint ;D

      This.

      I definitely think it has something to do with it.

      It's usually European games he is left out of too. Isn't there a specific European appearances clause? If so, there you go.
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      Reply #3: Mar 29, 2010 09:47:04 am
      To delay payments to Roma, haven't you heard were skint ;D
      You mean he hasn't yet paid to Roma for aquilani
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      Re: Why do you think Rafa is not playing aquilani from start more often?
      Reply #4: Mar 29, 2010 09:49:57 am
      You mean he hasn't yet paid to Roma for aquilani

      It was set out in various installments. So far we've only given something like 8m.
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      Re: Why do you think Rafa is not playing aquilani from start more often?
      Reply #5: Mar 29, 2010 09:51:57 am
      Appearance fee's has to be it
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      Reply #6: Mar 29, 2010 10:07:08 am
      Rafa I believe wants hiim to become fully fit and confident with playing injury free. He's had a lot of injuries in career so far. I think Rafa wants him to get that confidence in playing without any niggling injuries, so he's being very cautious with him. Next year Aquilani will be unleashed on the league, and they won't know what hit them. The longer he stays without any injuries the better and more confident he is about it. Rafa signed him for 5 years I believe, this is the get over the hill year. Plus, it doesn't go well for him to be playing when we were struggling, now we are seeing more of him since the rise in our game. Kinda highlights what Rafa is trying to do with him.
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      Reply #7: Mar 29, 2010 10:34:23 am
      Money, as has been mentioned, is the likely answer.

      I've read Rafa being slated for his transfers on these boards over the last few years, and whilst in some cases it's been justified, often they have been misinterpreted, or the bigger picture ignored.

      Aquilani was a much debated signing, but I think Rafa's words about having signed him for several years, and not just the few months at the beginning of his contract where he was injured, tell us a lot.

      Aquilani was a big gamble, unproven in England, and stepping into some big boots with Alonso's departure.

      I think we are left with two options. Either Rafa genuinely thinks Lucas provides as much creativity, movement and quality of passing as the Italian, and so is rotating the two, or Aquilani is being deliberately left out of a certain number of games.

      I don't think it's a coincidence that Lucas has been selected for many "gritty" matches, in which a tough midfield duo could arguably work. For me, Rafa is trying to play percentages, hoping we can grind out certain results, balancing results and keeping down costs.

      It hasn't always worked, but I think the decision-making has been calculated.

      And when I have watched some of Aquilani's recent performances, I take my hat off to Rafa for signing him. I can't imagine having been in his shoes last summer, trying to figure out who could replace our man of the season who wanted out to Real Madrid, for a fraction of the cost. I don't know who else could have joined us with the same potential, for just an £8 million outlay in his first year.
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      Re: Why do you think Rafa is not playing aquilani from start more often?
      Reply #8: Mar 29, 2010 10:58:57 am
      To delay payments to Roma, haven't you heard were skint ;D

      Same idea. Think we pay Roma on a games played basis.
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      Reply #9: Mar 29, 2010 11:01:49 am
      The 20 million EURO transfer fee is broken up into the following:

      - 4 cash instalments of
      - - 5 million EURO upfront
      - - 3 million EURO by 4th January 2010
      - - 7 million EURO by June 30th 2010
      - - 5 million EURO by June 30th 2011.

      Further Add ons include:

      - 300,000 EURO for every year Liverpool qualify for the Champions League from 2010/11 to 2014/15

      - 250,000 EURO everytime the player reaches 35 appearancs, 70 appearances, 105 appeances and then 140 appearances.

      - 1 million EURO the first time Liverpool either wins the Premier League or Champions League by 30 June 2014.

      - 5% of any future transfer fee will be paid to Roma.

      Details can be found here (for those fluent in Italian) - http://www.asroma.it/UserFiles/988.pdf
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      Reply #10: Mar 29, 2010 11:05:38 am
      The 20 million EURO transfer fee is broken up into the following:

      - 4 cash instalments of
      - - 5 million EURO upfront
      - - 3 million EURO by 4th January 2010
      - - 7 million EURO by June 30th 2010
      - - 5 million EURO by June 30th 2011.

      Further Add ons include:

      - 300,000 EURO for every year Liverpool qualify for the Champions League from 2010/11 to 2014/15

      - 250,000 EURO everytime the player reaches 35 appearancs, 70 appearances, 105 appeances and then 140 appearances.

      - 1 million EURO the first time Liverpool either wins the Premier League or Champions League by 30 June 2014.

      - 5% of any future transfer fee will be paid to Roma.

      Details can be found here (for those fluent in Italian) - http://www.asroma.it/UserFiles/988.pdf

      Was looking for that info. Cheers mate.

      8m euros so far.

      The most depressing thing is the Dossena and Voronin money will be used for that 3rd installment due in June.

      So we could only have whatever monies we get from the Riera deal plus further player sales next season. Unless Rafa receives a kitty from the board :roll:
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      Reply #11: Mar 29, 2010 11:08:49 am
      250,000 when he reaches 35 appearances next year. 300.000 when we qualify for the champions league this year and 2 million when we win both the premier league and champions league next year.
      No wonder Rafa wont play him ;)
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      Reply #12: Mar 29, 2010 12:02:06 pm
      What would be the point in signing any player not to play him because of "cost" - now i'm not what you'd call "in touch with my feminine side" so to apply man's logic here:

      Just a thought but....wouldn't it be more "cost" effective NOT to F***ing sign him in the first instance?  >:D

      Cost? Nah, more like a combination of caution and fear. Fear, in that, I don't think Aquilani was ever going to be used a lot in his first season anyhow; due to the nature/extent of his injury and he didn't want to risk him. Caution in that, other players are considered more defensive/reliable at a time when Rafa saw a need to grind out results and the pressure was on.

      All in all; the signing of an unfit Aquilani was, in my opinion, a calculated gamble in which the bets were hedged by "appearance fees" - that gamble hasn't paid off - YET!  ;)

















      Oh that ^^^ and the fact that Rafa must be bumming Lucas.  ;D
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      Reply #13: Mar 29, 2010 12:03:19 pm
      What would be the point in signing any player not to play him because of "cost" - now I'm not what you'd call "in touch with my feminine side" so to apply man's logic here:

      Just a thought but....wouldn't it be more "cost" effective NOT to f**king sign him in the first instance?  >:D

      Cost? Nah, more like a combination of caution and fear. Fear, in that, I don't think Aquilani was ever going to be used a lot in his first season anyhow; due to the nature/extent of his injury and he didn't want to risk him. Caution in that, other players are considered more defensive/reliable at a time when Rafa saw a need to grind out results and the pressure was on.

      All in all; the signing of an unfit Aquilani was, in my opinion, a calculated gamble in which the bets were hedged by "appearance fees" - that gamble hasn't paid off - YET!  ;)










      Most important part of that quote.....YET!
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      Reply #14: Mar 29, 2010 12:22:11 pm
      Further Add ons include:

      - 300,000 EURO for every year Liverpool qualify for the Champions League from 2010/11 to 2014/15

      - 250,000 EURO everytime the player reaches 35 appearancs, 70 appearances, 105 appeances and then 140 appearances.

      - 1 million EURO the first time Liverpool either wins the Premier League or Champions League by 30 June 2014.

      - 5% of any future transfer fee will be paid to Roma.

      Details can be found here (for those fluent in Italian) - http://www.asroma.it/UserFiles/988.pdf

      Are you kidding me? No wonder that signing was so quick, they ripped us off!
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      Reply #15: Mar 29, 2010 12:57:26 pm
      Are you kidding me? No wonder that signing was so quick, they ripped us off!

      Rip off, eh? So you would be unhappy to pay Roma 1 million EURO the first time Liverpool either wins the Premier League or Champions League by 30 June 2014?

      I'd happily pay that every F***ing year from now until doomsday.
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      Reply #16: Mar 29, 2010 01:02:42 pm
      Rip off, eh? So you would be unhappy to pay Roma 1 million EURO the first time Liverpool either wins the Premier League or Champions League by 30 June 2014?

      I'd happily pay that every F***ing year from now until doomsday.

      Agreed mate, the holy grail has no price if it means knocking UTD of their pirch ;D
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      Reply #17: Mar 29, 2010 01:05:59 pm
      Agreed mate, the holy grail has no price if it means knocking UTD of their pirch ;D

      At 1Million a year it would be a bargain... and anyway its only the first time. Not the following 5
      Hopefully he turns out to be an expensive signing.
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      Reply #18: Mar 29, 2010 01:09:26 pm

      - 300,000 EURO for every year Liverpool qualify for the Champions League from 2010/11 to 2014/15


      oh well. There's one positive. When we fail to make top 4, just remember we're saving ourselves $300,000.
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      Reply #19: Mar 29, 2010 02:14:09 pm
      oh well. There's one positive. When we fail to make top 4, just remember we're saving ourselves $300,000.

      F**k off, will ya?
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      Reply #20: Mar 29, 2010 02:33:45 pm
      Blimey........1 million `for every time we `finish `1st

      Its only 800,000 difference between prize money for each position `on the table `so finishing 2nd `saves us `200,000

      That deal is `a `bit `of `a `stitch `up


      Deal `for  `Rierra `to `Russia

      1 `million `for each `time `it `snows `on `match `day
      100,000 `for `each time `some `horny Ruski makes `a `pass `at `his `wife
      500,000 for each time `he `comments `about not `being `picked
      50,000 `for `each `time `he `doesnt `use `his `right `foot `in `a `match
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      Reply #21: Mar 29, 2010 03:30:26 pm
      Blimey........1 million `for every time we `finish `1st

      Its only 800,000 difference between prize money for each position `on the table `so finishing 2nd `saves us `200,000

      That deal is `a `bit `of `a `stitch `up


      Deal `for  `Rierra `to `Russia

      1 `million `for each `time `it `snows `on `match `day
      100,000 `for `each time `some `horny Ruski makes `a `pass `at `his `wife
      500,000 for each time `he `comments `about not `being `picked
      50,000 `for `each `time `he `doesnt `use `his `right `foot `in `a `match


      1 million EURO the first time Liverpool either wins the Premier League or Champions League by 30 June 2014.

      Read it again
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      Reply #22: Mar 29, 2010 03:41:43 pm
      Agreed mate, the holy grail has no price if it means knocking UTD of their pirch ;D

      What pirch?

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