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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9660 : Aug 22, 2017 09:09:13 pm »
      Memory serves me correct, you got all salty when Newcastle lost their opening 3 games in the championship & you went hard in on Rafa...

      What did he do?... Won the championship... Lol..

      Off you go now..

      Rafa is at Huddersfield now Shabs....get with the program!
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      Reply #9661 : Aug 22, 2017 09:18:01 pm »
      Rafa is at Huddersfield now Shabs....get with the program!

      Got them promoted too ;D

      Doing the double is Rafa..
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      Reply #9662 : Aug 22, 2017 09:19:00 pm »
      Got them promoted too ;D

      Doing the double is Rafa..

      Not easy managing two clubs at once...like Bobby Fisher playing chess against himself.
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      Reply #9663 : Aug 23, 2017 08:06:56 pm »
      Not disturbed at all.

      We went to Hoffenheim and are on our way to the group phase of the European Cup. He went to Huddersfield and is on the way to the relegation zone. So even with our defensive issues, heavy metal football is still better than controlling the game.

      Oddball you are.

      He left nearly TEN YEARS AGO and you're still bitching.

      Everyone on this forum gets it, you hate the man. Christ if you've ever had a girlfriend she must have been Mother Theresa to put up with your repetitive, boring, nonsense.
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      Reply #9664 : Sep 01, 2017 10:55:57 pm »
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      Reply #9665 : Sep 10, 2017 11:58:08 am »
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      Reply #9666 : Sep 10, 2017 12:00:26 pm »

      Always loyal to the cause Rafa, remember him missing his fathers funeral & had to be told to stay from the Emitarets after he hd surgery on his kidney I think.
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      Reply #9667 : Sep 16, 2017 05:43:27 pm »
      I really don't think much of this Newcastle side - probably the least capable Newcastle side I've ever seen in the Premier League and yet Rafa's guided them to a very solid start this season. Good win against a stronger Stoke today.
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      Reply #9668 : Sep 17, 2017 12:31:05 pm »
      I really don't think much of this Newcastle side - probably the least capable Newcastle side I've ever seen in the Premier League and yet Rafa's guided them to a very solid start this season. Good win against a stronger Stoke today.

      The man's a f**king genius, out of everyone to come and go at the club he is the person I'd most like to return at some point.

      People talk about us right now saying that you have to be weaker at the back when you are so devestating in attack.

      But look at the team Rafa had, we were twatting people 4 - 0 left right and centre.

      But on the flip side when you look back at his team nearly every position had a leader. Someone who would stand up and be counted when the sh*t hit the fan.

      Kyut, Maxi, Agger, Reina, Mascherano, Alonso, Torres, Bellamy, Gerrard, Carragher.

      The f**king lot of them were always up for the fight, all leaders in their own right.

      We have absolutely none of that right now. We have the biggest bunch of pussies I've ever seen playing in one team
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      Reply #9669 : Sep 17, 2017 12:35:57 pm »
      I really don't think much of this Newcastle side - probably the least capable Newcastle side I've ever seen in the Premier League and yet Rafa's guided them to a very solid start this season. Good win against a stronger Stoke today.

      They play Brighton next week which in all probability they will be winning. That means Rafa got 4 wins in a row and 12 pts in 6 games. Given time and support (maybe next year) I am sure Rafa will have Newcastle competing for the Europa places soon. Unfortunately, he doesn't have the backing as always.
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      Reply #9670 : Sep 21, 2017 11:43:37 pm »
      Well for all the stick he has taken from a certain someone, apparently winning the Championship wasn't good enough for him. Well, his side are currently 4 places above us in the league with a more solid defence and a better goal difference too. Thought a couple of members had gone quiet in here recently.

      That said, I do hope they, along with every other team are below us come the end of the season!!!
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      Reply #9671 : Sep 22, 2017 12:12:24 pm »
      Why do Rafalites do this? I'm long past caring but do find both them and that space hopper across the water bloke funny.

      It's a bit early for Nahnah-nahnah-nahs, we're a couple of games into the season. If Rafa can get Newcastle into the top half it'll be a brilliant effort, anywhere near it would be very good. Even staying up wouldn't be a bad target to aim for, it's been a good start but IMHO it maybe a bit early to get carried away.
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      Reply #9672 : Sep 22, 2017 03:27:54 pm »
      Why do Rafalites do this? I'm long past caring but do find both them and that space hopper across the water bloke funny.

      It's a bit early for Nahnah-nahnah-nahs, we're a couple of games into the season. If Rafa can get Newcastle into the top half it'll be a brilliant effort, anywhere near it would be very good. Even staying up wouldn't be a bad target to aim for, it's been a good start but IMHO it maybe a bit early to get carried away.

      You can only play what's in front of you and for that he's done well.
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      Reply #9673 : Sep 22, 2017 06:12:06 pm »
      You can only play what's in front of you and for that he's done well.

      No argument mate, but there's a long way to go yet and Newcastle aren't great. Like I say if he can get them into the top dozen he'll be doing well.
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      Reply #9674 : Sep 22, 2017 08:25:59 pm »
      Quote from bigmick
      Why do Rafalites do this? I'm long past caring but IMHO it maybe a bit early to get carried away.

      You obviously do care, as you're back.

      But after 18 long months and a relegation thrown in, a handful of goatee devotees are keen to remind the rest of us, that with the same amount of clean sheets and home wins as us, and despite not facing City Burnley nor Watford yet, he's nudged a point ahead. It may be after just 5 games, but normal service should be resumed very soon.

      Meanwhile, as a sign of the times, the trips for us and them keep coming up. We're off to the magnificent lights of Metropolis Moscow, as we begin our European Cup travels. They are off to the bright lights of Brighton, a trip so far it's the nearest they'll get to Europe all season. As a goodwill gesture, we should hand over a giant "Wish You Were There" postcard when we face them the following weekend.
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      Reply #9675 : Sep 22, 2017 08:51:59 pm »
      You obviously do care, as you're back.

      But after 18 long months and a relegation thrown in, a handful of goatee devotees are keen to remind the rest of us, that with the same amount of clean sheets and home wins as us, and despite not facing City Burnley nor Watford yet, he's nudged a point ahead. It may be after just 5 games, but normal service should be resumed very soon.

      Meanwhile, as a sign of the times, the trips for us and them keep coming up. We're off to the magnificent lights of Metropolis Moscow, as we begin our European Cup travels. They are off to the bright lights of Brighton, a trip so far it's the nearest they'll get to Europe all season. As a goodwill gesture, we should hand over a giant "Wish You Were There" postcard when we face them the following weekend.

      'Magnificent lights of metropolis Moscow'?

      Hey guys, look at Judith f**king Chalmers here!
      « Last Edit: Sep 22, 2017 08:58:54 pm by Frankly, Mr Shankly »
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      Reply #9676 : Sep 22, 2017 10:54:09 pm »
      Meanwhile, as a sign of the times, the trips for us and them keep coming up. We're off to the magnificent lights of Metropolis Moscow, as we begin our European Cup travels. They are off to the bright lights of Brighton, a trip so far it's the nearest they'll get to Europe all season. As a goodwill gesture, we should hand over a giant "Wish You Were There" postcard when we face them the following weekend.

      Well don't you worry, the way we are playing at the moment we will only be having trips to Brighton if we don't get our act together.

      Why do Rafalites do this? I'm long past caring but do find both them and that space hopper across the water bloke funny.

      It's a bit early for Nahnah-nahnah-nahs, we're a couple of games into the season. If Rafa can get Newcastle into the top half it'll be a brilliant effort, anywhere near it would be very good. Even staying up wouldn't be a bad target to aim for, it's been a good start but IMHO it maybe a bit early to get carried away.

      Not a case of being 'Rafalites', getting carried away or whatever you want to call it. But the fact he has such a poor squad with a sh*t owner and working under difficult circumstances, he has done damn well so far. Which is what I was pointing out. If that makes me a "Rafalite" then so be it because at least his team are showing signs of actually being able to defend unlike our shower of sh*t.
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      Reply #9677 : Sep 22, 2017 11:31:41 pm »
      No argument mate, but there's a long way to go yet and Newcastle aren't great. Like I say if he can get them into the top dozen he'll be doing well.

      Well to quote an article "he is creating a Magpie masterpiece out of broken crayons".
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      Reply #9678 : Sep 23, 2017 11:30:19 am »
      "Goatee devotees"  :lmao:. The lads clearly bonkers but that's quite good, gotta give him that.
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      Reply #9679 : Sep 24, 2017 06:30:15 pm »
      Surprised to see Brighton get the 3 points today.

      Good they got the air let out of their tyres before we play them next Sun.

      Another game to really look forward to - am sure it'll be hyped in the press after similar matchups in the past produced such good games, this time with the added Benetiz spice.

      Rafa's not gonna roll over and have his tummy tickled, but if Mane/Salah/Coutinho all take to the field, reckon we should have enough to get another 3 away points!
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      Reply #9680 : Sep 24, 2017 07:59:24 pm »
      Crisis Over:

      Liverpool ahead of Newcastle.

      Normal service has resumed.
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      Reply #9681 : Sep 24, 2017 10:45:13 pm »
      Crisis Over:

      Liverpool ahead of Newcastle.

      Normal service has resumed.

      Dear lord..opened up such a large 2 point gap.

      I guess finishing ahead of Newcastle is your high expectation for this season then.

      Just admit it, you find Rafa a threat.
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      Reply #9682 : Sep 24, 2017 11:11:49 pm »
      Looks like some people may have to have a reminder who to support next sunday
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      Reply #9683 : Sep 24, 2017 11:27:43 pm »
      Crisis Over:

      Liverpool ahead of Newcastle.

      Normal service has resumed.

      Dear lord..opened up such a large 2 point gap.

      I guess finishing ahead of Newcastle is your high expectation for this season then.

      Just admit it, you find Rafa a threat.

       :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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      Reply #9684 : Sep 24, 2017 11:43:52 pm »
      Looks like some people may have to have a reminder who to support next sunday

      They'll be in a no lose situation.

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      Reply #9685 : Sep 30, 2017 02:29:54 pm »
      http://www.espn.co.uk/football/liverpool/story/3217056/newcastle-boss-rafa-benitez-open-to-future-return-as-liverpool-manager

      Wonder would he really take it if offered. Or if the majority of fans would go for it.

      Be nice to see him again on the same park tomorrow...
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      Reply #9686 : Oct 01, 2017 10:15:41 pm »
      Some interesting words from Rafa....

      Rafa Benitez: Money makes it tough for Liverpool to rekindle glory days
      http://www.espnfc.us/english-premier-league/story/3218186/rafa-benitez-money-makes-it-tough-for-liverpool-to-rekindle-glory-days

      Rafael Benitez has admitted the money flooding into the Premier League is making it more difficult ever year for Liverpool to rekindle the glory days of the 1980s.

      Benitez came as close as anyone to returning the club to the game's pinnacle, wining four trophies including the Champions League during his six-year tenure, but he believes present incumbent Jürgen Klopp is being hampered by the spending of his competitors.

      The Reds have invested heavily in the likes of Georginio Wijnaldum, Mohamed Salah and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain in the last year or so, but their expenditure has been dwarfed by that of Manchester City, Manchester United and Chelsea.

      Benitez said: "When I arrived at Liverpool, the budget was £20million gross. When I left, it was £17 million, but still people said I must win the title, I must compete.

      "[Manchester] United had around £50m more every year, but people said I had to compete against them every year. After, there was Chelsea.

      "At that time, it was Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United. Now you have Manchester City and Tottenham, as well as PSG and the others. But it's always been similar.

      "There are massive clubs with massive amounts of money and Liverpool were always a little bit behind.


      Liverpool won the most English league titles in the 1980s.
      "How can you win trophies? You have to create a good team with a great atmosphere and work hard and then you can get there.

      "The reality is, the teams that have won the title, probably 90 per cent of the time, are the teams with the most money."

      Benitez wrote himself indelibly into Liverpool's history when he guided the club to Champions League glory in 2005 and -- as he prepares to lead current employers Newcastle into battle against them on Sunday -- he admits there was a time when he might have spent the rest of his career on Merseyside.

      He said: "In the days when David Moores and Rick Parry were in charge, it was really, really good. They were people who really understood football. They could really understand the fans and the manager and the players.

      "Unfortunately, that board didn't have the money to compete against the top sides and he [Moores] had to sell.

      "In terms of the way they were running the club, it was like a family, very close. I was quite confident. Then everything changed, they changed directors and owners and ran it more as a business rather than a football club.

      "The team was improving but other teams came in with so much money and it was impossible."
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      Reply #9687 : Oct 01, 2017 11:16:01 pm »
      Love this ...

      Margaret Aspinall was Rafa's guest of honour today at the match.

      YNWA Rafa.
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      Reply #9688 : Oct 02, 2017 04:27:02 am »


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      Reply #9689 : Oct 03, 2017 08:21:33 pm »
      Quote from FL Red
      Some interesting words from Rafa....

      Rafa Benitez: Money makes it tough for Liverpool to rekindle glory days

      Rafael Benitez has admitted the money flooding into the Premier League is making it more difficult ever year for Liverpool to rekindle the glory days of the 1980s.

      Benitez said: "When I arrived at Liverpool, the budget was £20million gross. When I left, it was £17 million, but still people said I must win the title, I must compete.

      "[Manchester] United had around £50m more every year, but people said I had to compete against them every year. After, there was Chelsea.

      "At that time, it was Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United. Now you have Manchester City and Tottenham, as well as PSG and the others. But it's always been similar.

      "There are massive clubs with massive amounts of money and Liverpool were always a little bit behind. How can you win trophies? You have to create a good team with a great atmosphere and work hard and then you can get there. The reality is, the teams that have won the title, probably 90 per cent of the time, are the teams with the most money."

      As Klopp once told Allardyce, "I'm happy that he has enough time on his hands to worry about Liverpool's problems".

      I'm sure the toon army were fascinated by his ramblings about us. After all, what would any of them know about winning top division league titles? But, if winning the league is really all down to who spends the most from the money tree; 

      Why have City not won it in 4 years? Why have the mancs not won it for longer? Why do teams like Leicester City win league titles? Why did you not win the league at Inter, Real, or Chelsea, with a bottomless pit available, to practice what you preach?

      When you were here, we said you must win the league, because that was the reason you were appointed, as if we just wanted a coach that won European trophies and could finish in the top 4 every year, we would have just stuck with Houllier. And for most of your time here, there was only three teams to compete against for the league. No City, no Spurs, no random one season wonders around to bother us.

      You don't just win the league with the biggest budget, the biggest gross spend, or the biggest net spend. You win the league by getting better results over 38 games than everyone else, in all conditions and circumstances over 9 months. That means managing the resources you do have, big or small, in the wisest and most responsible way. It means winning games/getting results with 10 men, in galeforce winds/thunderstorms/thick fog/snow, when not playing well, behind at some point, and under the cosh, when playing games every few days, dealing with injuries and suspensions, at bogey grounds and hostile venues etc etc etc.

      That's how you win this league, and you couldn't do it after 6 long years and 228 individual attempts. You thought all we wanted was "make progress" when we really wanted (a lot) more than just one great night in Istanbul.

      You've never beaten this club since you left us after 4 years without a trophy, not a single time. Not a great surprise tbh as you set your teams up not to beat us, even when you're staring relegation in the face and need wins. Even with our issues today you're still beneath us, so Jürgen doesn't need any "interesting words" from you. It's just a few weeks since Nottingham Forest knocked you and your bunch of upstarts out of the League Cup in your own backyard. So go back to that laughing stock of a club you're currently holed up at, and focus on their problems rather than telling the rest of the world what we have to do.

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