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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9660: Oct 03, 2017 08:21:33 pm
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      Some interesting words from Rafa....

      Rafa Benitez: Money makes it tough for Liverpool to rekindle glory days

      Rafael Benitez has admitted the money flooding into the Premier League is making it more difficult ever year for Liverpool to rekindle the glory days of the 1980s.

      Benitez said: "When I arrived at Liverpool, the budget was £20million gross. When I left, it was £17 million, but still people said I must win the title, I must compete.

      "[Manchester] United had around £50m more every year, but people said I had to compete against them every year. After, there was Chelsea.

      "At that time, it was Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United. Now you have Manchester City and Tottenham, as well as PSG and the others. But it's always been similar.

      "There are massive clubs with massive amounts of money and Liverpool were always a little bit behind. How can you win trophies? You have to create a good team with a great atmosphere and work hard and then you can get there. The reality is, the teams that have won the title, probably 90 per cent of the time, are the teams with the most money."

      As Klopp once told Allardyce, "I'm happy that he has enough time on his hands to worry about Liverpool's problems".

      I'm sure the toon army were fascinated by his ramblings about us. After all, what would any of them know about winning top division league titles? But, if winning the league is really all down to who spends the most from the money tree; 

      Why have City not won it in 4 years? Why have the mancs not won it for longer? Why do teams like Leicester City win league titles? Why did you not win the league at Inter, Real, or Chelsea, with a bottomless pit available, to practice what you preach?

      When you were here, we said you must win the league, because that was the reason you were appointed, as if we just wanted a coach that won European trophies and could finish in the top 4 every year, we would have just stuck with Houllier. And for most of your time here, there was only three teams to compete against for the league. No City, no Spurs, no random one season wonders around to bother us.

      You don't just win the league with the biggest budget, the biggest gross spend, or the biggest net spend. You win the league by getting better results over 38 games than everyone else, in all conditions and circumstances over 9 months. That means managing the resources you do have, big or small, in the wisest and most responsible way. It means winning games/getting results with 10 men, in galeforce winds/thunderstorms/thick fog/snow, when not playing well, behind at some point, and under the cosh, when playing games every few days, dealing with injuries and suspensions, at bogey grounds and hostile venues etc etc etc.

      That's how you win this league, and you couldn't do it after 6 long years and 228 individual attempts. You thought all we wanted was "make progress" when we really wanted (a lot) more than just one great night in Istanbul.

      You've never beaten this club since you left us after 4 years without a trophy, not a single time. Not a great surprise tbh as you set your teams up not to beat us, even when you're staring relegation in the face and need wins. Even with our issues today you're still beneath us, so Jürgen doesn't need any "interesting words" from you. It's just a few weeks since Nottingham Forest knocked you and your bunch of upstarts out of the League Cup in your own backyard. So go back to that laughing stock of a club you're currently holed up at, and focus on their problems rather than telling the rest of the world what we have to do.
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9661: Oct 03, 2017 08:25:49 pm

      "Rafa, do you know any good places to live in Spain ..."
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9662: Oct 03, 2017 08:47:45 pm
      As Klopp once told Allardyce, "I'm happy that he has enough time on his hands to worry about Liverpool's problems".

      I'm sure the toon army were fascinated by his ramblings about us. After all, what would any of them know about winning top division league titles? But, if winning the league is really all down to who spends the most from the money tree; 

      Why have City not won it in 4 years? Why have the mancs not won it for longer? Why do teams like Leicester City win league titles? Why did you not win the league at Inter, Real, or Chelsea, with a bottomless pit available, to practice what you preach?

      When you were here, we said you must win the league, because that was the reason you were appointed, as if we just wanted a coach that won European trophies and could finish in the top 4 every year, we would have just stuck with Houllier. And for most of your time here, there was only three teams to compete against for the league. No City, no Spurs, no random one season wonders around to bother us.

      You don't just win the league with the biggest budget, the biggest gross spend, or the biggest net spend. You win the league by getting better results over 38 games than everyone else, in all conditions and circumstances over 9 months. That means managing the resources you do have, big or small, in the wisest and most responsible way. It means winning games/getting results with 10 men, in galeforce winds/thunderstorms/thick fog/snow, when not playing well, behind at some point, and under the cosh, when playing games every few days, dealing with injuries and suspensions, at bogey grounds and hostile venues etc etc etc.

      That's how you win this league, and you couldn't do it after 6 long years and 228 individual attempts. You thought all we wanted was "make progress" when we really wanted (a lot) more than just one great night in Istanbul.

      You've never beaten this club since you left us after 4 years without a trophy, not a single time. Not a great surprise tbh as you set your teams up not to beat us, even when you're staring relegation in the face and need wins. Even with our issues today you're still beneath us, so Jürgen doesn't need any "interesting words" from you. It's just a few weeks since Nottingham Forest knocked you and your bunch of upstarts out of the League Cup in your own backyard. So go back to that laughing stock of a club you're currently holed up at, and focus on their problems rather than telling the rest of the world what we have to do.

      Dude give it a rest...you aren't relevant around here.
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9663: Oct 03, 2017 09:16:11 pm
      Wish our defence, was as organised, as well as Rafa has Newcastle's. We would be serious contenders for the Premiership.
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9664: Oct 03, 2017 10:51:14 pm
      Wish our defence, was as organised, as well as Rafa has Newcastle's. We would be serious contenders for the Premiership.

      Really? They had one good player...their CB who almost gifted us a goal. The rest of their defense we cut through like cheese. We just couldn't put away our chances.

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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9665: Oct 03, 2017 10:54:31 pm
      As Klopp once told Allardyce, "I'm happy that he has enough time on his hands to worry about Liverpool's problems".

      I'm sure the toon army were fascinated by his ramblings about us. After all, what would any of them know about winning top division league titles? But, if winning the league is really all down to who spends the most from the money tree; 

      Why have City not won it in 4 years? Why have the mancs not won it for longer? Why do teams like Leicester City win league titles? Why did you not win the league at Inter, Real, or Chelsea, with a bottomless pit available, to practice what you preach?

      When you were here, we said you must win the league, because that was the reason you were appointed, as if we just wanted a coach that won European trophies and could finish in the top 4 every year, we would have just stuck with Houllier. And for most of your time here, there was only three teams to compete against for the league. No City, no Spurs, no random one season wonders around to bother us.

      You don't just win the league with the biggest budget, the biggest gross spend, or the biggest net spend. You win the league by getting better results over 38 games than everyone else, in all conditions and circumstances over 9 months. That means managing the resources you do have, big or small, in the wisest and most responsible way. It means winning games/getting results with 10 men, in galeforce winds/thunderstorms/thick fog/snow, when not playing well, behind at some point, and under the cosh, when playing games every few days, dealing with injuries and suspensions, at bogey grounds and hostile venues etc etc etc.

      That's how you win this league, and you couldn't do it after 6 long years and 228 individual attempts. You thought all we wanted was "make progress" when we really wanted (a lot) more than just one great night in Istanbul.

      You've never beaten this club since you left us after 4 years without a trophy, not a single time. Not a great surprise tbh as you set your teams up not to beat us, even when you're staring relegation in the face and need wins. Even with our issues today you're still beneath us, so Jürgen doesn't need any "interesting words" from you. It's just a few weeks since Nottingham Forest knocked you and your bunch of upstarts out of the League Cup in your own backyard. So go back to that laughing stock of a club you're currently holed up at, and focus on their problems rather than telling the rest of the world what we have to do.

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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9666: Oct 03, 2017 11:27:38 pm
      As Klopp once told Allardyce, "I'm happy that he has enough time on his hands to worry about Liverpool's problems".

      I'm sure the toon army were fascinated by his ramblings about us. After all, what would any of them know about winning top division league titles? But, if winning the league is really all down to who spends the most from the money tree; 

      Why have City not won it in 4 years? Why have the mancs not won it for longer? Why do teams like Leicester City win league titles? Why did you not win the league at Inter, Real, or Chelsea, with a bottomless pit available, to practice what you preach?

      When you were here, we said you must win the league, because that was the reason you were appointed, as if we just wanted a coach that won European trophies and could finish in the top 4 every year, we would have just stuck with Houllier. And for most of your time here, there was only three teams to compete against for the league. No City, no Spurs, no random one season wonders around to bother us.

      You don't just win the league with the biggest budget, the biggest gross spend, or the biggest net spend. You win the league by getting better results over 38 games than everyone else, in all conditions and circumstances over 9 months. That means managing the resources you do have, big or small, in the wisest and most responsible way. It means winning games/getting results with 10 men, in galeforce winds/thunderstorms/thick fog/snow, when not playing well, behind at some point, and under the cosh, when playing games every few days, dealing with injuries and suspensions, at bogey grounds and hostile venues etc etc etc.

      That's how you win this league, and you couldn't do it after 6 long years and 228 individual attempts. You thought all we wanted was "make progress" when we really wanted (a lot) more than just one great night in Istanbul.

      You've never beaten this club since you left us after 4 years without a trophy, not a single time. Not a great surprise tbh as you set your teams up not to beat us, even when you're staring relegation in the face and need wins. Even with our issues today you're still beneath us, so Jürgen doesn't need any "interesting words" from you. It's just a few weeks since Nottingham Forest knocked you and your bunch of upstarts out of the League Cup in your own backyard. So go back to that laughing stock of a club you're currently holed up at, and focus on their problems rather than telling the rest of the world what we have to do.

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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9667: Oct 04, 2017 12:01:21 pm
      As Klopp once told Allardyce, "I'm happy that he has enough time on his hands to worry about Liverpool's problems".

      I'm sure the toon army were fascinated by his ramblings about us. After all, what would any of them know about winning top division league titles? But, if winning the league is really all down to who spends the most from the money tree; 

      Why have City not won it in 4 years? Why have the mancs not won it for longer? Why do teams like Leicester City win league titles? Why did you not win the league at Inter, Real, or Chelsea, with a bottomless pit available, to practice what you preach?

      When you were here, we said you must win the league, because that was the reason you were appointed, as if we just wanted a coach that won European trophies and could finish in the top 4 every year, we would have just stuck with Houllier. And for most of your time here, there was only three teams to compete against for the league. No City, no Spurs, no random one season wonders around to bother us.

      You don't just win the league with the biggest budget, the biggest gross spend, or the biggest net spend. You win the league by getting better results over 38 games than everyone else, in all conditions and circumstances over 9 months. That means managing the resources you do have, big or small, in the wisest and most responsible way. It means winning games/getting results with 10 men, in galeforce winds/thunderstorms/thick fog/snow, when not playing well, behind at some point, and under the cosh, when playing games every few days, dealing with injuries and suspensions, at bogey grounds and hostile venues etc etc etc.

      That's how you win this league, and you couldn't do it after 6 long years and 228 individual attempts. You thought all we wanted was "make progress" when we really wanted (a lot) more than just one great night in Istanbul.

      You've never beaten this club since you left us after 4 years without a trophy, not a single time. Not a great surprise tbh as you set your teams up not to beat us, even when you're staring relegation in the face and need wins. Even with our issues today you're still beneath us, so Jürgen doesn't need any "interesting words" from you. It's just a few weeks since Nottingham Forest knocked you and your bunch of upstarts out of the League Cup in your own backyard. So go back to that laughing stock of a club you're currently holed up at, and focus on their problems rather than telling the rest of the world what we have to do.
      Not a fan then....
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9668: Oct 12, 2017 10:53:41 am
      As Klopp once told Allardyce, "I'm happy that he has enough time on his hands to worry about Liverpool's problems".

      I'm sure the toon army were fascinated by his ramblings about us. After all, what would any of them know about winning top division league titles? But, if winning the league is really all down to who spends the most from the money tree; 

      Why have City not won it in 4 years? Why have the mancs not won it for longer? Why do teams like Leicester City win league titles? Why did you not win the league at Inter, Real, or Chelsea, with a bottomless pit available, to practice what you preach?

      When you were here, we said you must win the league, because that was the reason you were appointed, as if we just wanted a coach that won European trophies and could finish in the top 4 every year, we would have just stuck with Houllier. And for most of your time here, there was only three teams to compete against for the league. No City, no Spurs, no random one season wonders around to bother us.

      You don't just win the league with the biggest budget, the biggest gross spend, or the biggest net spend. You win the league by getting better results over 38 games than everyone else, in all conditions and circumstances over 9 months. That means managing the resources you do have, big or small, in the wisest and most responsible way. It means winning games/getting results with 10 men, in galeforce winds/thunderstorms/thick fog/snow, when not playing well, behind at some point, and under the cosh, when playing games every few days, dealing with injuries and suspensions, at bogey grounds and hostile venues etc etc etc.

      That's how you win this league, and you couldn't do it after 6 long years and 228 individual attempts. You thought all we wanted was "make progress" when we really wanted (a lot) more than just one great night in Istanbul.

      You've never beaten this club since you left us after 4 years without a trophy, not a single time. Not a great surprise tbh as you set your teams up not to beat us, even when you're staring relegation in the face and need wins. Even with our issues today you're still beneath us, so Jürgen doesn't need any "interesting words" from you. It's just a few weeks since Nottingham Forest knocked you and your bunch of upstarts out of the League Cup in your own backyard. So go back to that laughing stock of a club you're currently holed up at, and focus on their problems rather than telling the rest of the world what we have to do.

      Not one to attack in this forum, but I find your post disrespectful to a loyal servant of the club.

      We might have our differences and differences of opinion, but it doesn't change the fact that when we have individual that have served the club above and beyond we need to treat them with a bit of respect, be it they are still with us or moved on to other things.

      I wouldn't like to trash your post but then again you might not be a fan of the man, but you cannot wish away the success he achieved and the glory he brought the club.

      He signed some of the greatest players to have played for the club side and I credit him the development of one of the greatest talent ever to play for the club - Steven G.

      Like I said you are entitled to your opinion but lets exercise some restraint when we try to make certain points about personalities whom have serve the club above and beyond. that's what makes us as Liverpool fans different from the rest.

      P.S: I might be guilty from time to time of doing the same when passions are high but it still doesn't make it right.
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9669: Oct 21, 2017 05:04:51 pm
      Well done Rafa putting the Owl in his place, not that it's that difficult mind!
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      Reply #9670: Nov 20, 2017 10:57:20 pm
      Tough game against Utd. Newcastle played well but Mourinho can field Pogba amongst others and that can change the game.  It will be interesting to see if they get bought out and he can get a couple more players including a forward, it would make the second half of the season a bit easier.
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9671: Nov 21, 2017 10:20:25 am
      Newcastle beginning to struggle, in the top flight. Although I am sure that they will consolidate, their place in the Premiership under Rafa.
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      Reply #9672: Nov 28, 2017 09:13:13 pm
      Wheels coming off for Rafa & the barcodes..
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      Reply #9673: Nov 28, 2017 09:47:35 pm
      Wheels coming off for Rafa & the barcodes..

      In dire need of investment. The worst Newcastle side in my lifetime. They're a hard working team but my god they lack quality. When Jonjo Shelvey is your most talented player, you know there's big problems that need rectifying.
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      Reply #9674: Nov 28, 2017 09:58:20 pm
      They are doing as expected, in fact considering the lack of investement they are 12th in the league, I would say that's quite impressive with the squad they have.
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9675: Jan 07, 2018 08:36:33 pm
      Something him and me can actually agree on, has crept up. He fully supports VAR, as he agrees with me, that the need to have the right decision in games, is more important than having endless debates about whether the correct decision was given by the officials on the day or not, with the inevitable grudges and bad feelings that result, when a major call turns out to be wrong.

      It finally comes in this week. Initially it's for major decisions, but eventually it will extend to every decision. It will also mean that goals scored and decisions made are provisional*, until the game restarts. But it's a small price to pay for ensuring that the right decision is made. There are millions of pounds at stake on certain decisions, not to mention trophies, and they shouldn't be left to the mercy of human error. So we can finally agree on something. 

      *similar to wickets in cricket or tries in rugby.
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      Reply #9676: Feb 11, 2018 11:12:43 pm
      That's the fifth time Rafa has beaten the Moaning c**t.

      No other manager in England has as many victories over him, and always with an inferior team too.

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      Reply #9677: Mar 04, 2018 02:55:52 pm
      Fantastic seeing Rafa at Anfield again & what a reception he got... Deservedly so..

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      Reply #9678: Mar 04, 2018 03:13:52 pm
      Fantastic seeing Rafa at Anfield again & what a reception he got... Deservedly so..

      YNWA..

      Spot on.

      He’s got some job in his hands.
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      Reply #9679: Mar 04, 2018 03:20:39 pm
      Spot on.

      He’s got some job in his hands.

      No top manager would touch that job but Rafa showing us all just how much of a challenge he loves...

      Kept us quiet till Mane popped up with that sublime goal..

      Credit to him for having Newcastle playing PL footy with a championship club..
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      Reply #9680: Mar 04, 2018 06:36:23 pm
      Wish our defence, was as organised, as well as Rafa has Newcastle's. We would be serious contenders for the Premiership.
      What a eight or nine man defense..??  :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9681: Mar 04, 2018 06:58:07 pm
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      No top manager would touch that job but Rafa showing us all just how much of a challenge he loves...

      Kept us quiet till Mane popped up with that sublime goal..

      Credit to him for having Newcastle playing PL footy with a championship club..

      He came here and parked the bus. Like the Puels and the Mourinhos and the Allardyces and the Carvajals. And they all were rightly vilified for doing so. He should get the same treatment as the rest of them for playing the same way.
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      Reply #9682: Mar 04, 2018 07:11:02 pm
      He came here and parked the bus. Like the Puels and the Mourinhos and the Allardyces and the Carvajals. And they all were rightly vilified for doing so. He should get the same treatment as the rest of them for playing the same way.

      Behave your F***ing self.

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