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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9960: Sep 24, 2018 06:28:33 pm
      Rafa got offered a job and took and showed his credentials by winning another European Trophy - Rafa didn’t grow up through the club like Owen
      Please...."no matter what."
      You are trying to defend the indefensible
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      Reply #9961: Sep 24, 2018 06:36:28 pm
      How can anyone feel good about a manager that “tries” only to win competitions he feels the club have a chance at winning…

      And what does that say about how he views the club...??

      If you buy into his B.S. (and it looks like you do) then winning the CL is easier than winning the Premier league even thought as a team you face the best in Europa and even thought you have some tricky games in the Premier League they can be just as tricky in the CL, but with better quality players… But you’re OK with that

      People make excuses for Rafa’s treatment of players Babel, Riera, Benayoun, saying that they were average players as if that excuses it,, and If he was such a great managers as they claim, with the ability to get the best out of players and make them into great players why then did he simple not do it with these players…?

      People get upset because Riera dared to claim “we (LFC) are a sinking ship”
      Was he not proven right? From second place 2008/09 to 7th place 2009/10

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlLzQGMVV4M

      Benayoun
      A wonderful player and far from average

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULnrI1OtXlo

      And who scored the winner at the Bernabéu in the 1-0 victory over Real Madrid which set up that famous 4-0 victory at Anfield..? Yes Yossi Benayoun

      As a supporter of any team your dream is that they try and win there games in “All” competition, ok realistically some team are just trying to stay in the Premier League, but the will still give there all in a Cup game fielding their strongest side available…

      Ask the top six clubs supporters if they want their teams to be just choosing the competition they think they can win, and they wil ask you if you are Mad…

      Man City were talking about a quadruple last season, since we last won the title Man Utd have won it 13 times to overtake us as the top club in England, but that is OK with you because Rafa won the CL

      What have supporters of these top six clubs go in common..? They want to see the Club battling on all fronts yet it was ok for Rafa to be talking about competitions he felt the club could win...

      Ask the Leicester City fans if they would choose the CL over the Premier League…

      You talk about the History of the Club, but History is being written everyday and we have become a footnote

      The Premier league started in the 1992/93 season and teams like Blackburn and Leicester have won it more than us, but hey we have won a Champions league

      I believe that most Liverpool fans value the Premier League Title over and other Competition, and you big-up a manager who thought it was not a realistic target to go for...

      Still can’t believe that. And I don’t believe that Steven Gerrard was happy with that either…
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9962: Sep 24, 2018 06:37:08 pm
      " Benitez said in 2007. "But I would never take that job, in respect for my former team at Liverpool, no matter what."

      Go where he wants but don't lie about what he will do...
      Owen who sold him...

      you cant even get the date right and you use quotation marks. In 2007 how could Liverpool be his "former team" I am confused.
      2007 we went to the CL final in Athens
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      Reply #9963: Sep 24, 2018 06:47:39 pm
      Please...."no matter what."
      You are trying to defend the indefensible

      Yep you clearly don’t have a grudge

      You keep trying to drag up dirt and it keeps being thrown back at you

      You can have the last word if you wish but it’s safe to say you are in a very small minority who see Rafa as anything another than a great manager for us and will be remembered alongside the other winning CL managers
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9964: Sep 24, 2018 07:29:05 pm
      Ask the Leicester City fans if they would choose the CL over the Premier League…

      Reading through this and all your posts in this thread you're coming across like a f**king embarrassment
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      Reply #9965: Sep 24, 2018 07:58:13 pm
      you cant even get the date right and you use quotation marks. In 2007 how could Liverpool be his "former team" I am confused.
      2007 we went to the CL final in Athens

      yes sorry 2012
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9966: Sep 25, 2018 07:59:49 am
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      Moving goalposts to suit your argument!!

      Maybe if Owen hadn't have been such a shithouse when he left Madrid for Newcastle and listened to Rafa, he could of ended up back at Anfield, but Owen saw his arse, worried about his England place and signed for Newcastle. Again another good decision by Rafa not getting ripped off by Madrid for £16 million, especially when we sold him to Madrid for only £8 million.

      The goalposts haven't been moved at all. They were the demands when they, and Rafa took the job. Klopp has the top 4 demand now. While we the fans, hope for more than that, as long as he delivers a top 4 spot, the owners are happy.

      Newcastle paid the fee demanded. We bought Crouch instead who couldn't score at all until after the league cup was gone, and the title challenge was well and truly over.

      If he really wanted Owen, he would have paid up. When we get ripped off now, as we often are, Klopp tells us to "forget about the fee" and focus on the football. So that's what we do.

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      Owen was already a gonna and guess what it is absolutely nothing to do with Rafa!! Rafa was told by Rick Parry Owen had already made up his mind he was leaving Liverpool. He had one year left on his contract, hence the paltry £8 million we got for him. Madrid had already been in contact with him long before Rafa pitched up, hence why every time Ricky Parry was trying to get Owen to sign an extension to his contract 12 months previously when Houllier was in charge, Parry was constantly told by Owen that he couldn't sign the contract as his agent was "on sabbatical"

      Real had forgotten about Owen. There was no bids in for Owen until he was put up for sale. Only at that point did Real do business. So the idea that he was "always going that summer" is simply not true.

      Danny Murphy didn't even get as far as the bench in Graz. He was sold to break up the "Scouse Table" at Melwood. Cold and calculating, like so many other players' experiences of him, as time went on.

      What we have today is a manager of a happy and settled dressing room, where everyone wants to play for him, and others want to sign for him. Even those who can't. The difference between the two of them, is as wide as the difference in the league table.

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      When Rafa arrived the team scraped into the top 4 - it wasn’t a great squad hence why GH got sacked. To say Klopp etc had different targets again it false.

       history shows the club was right not to resign him from Madrid ( for twice the fee ) and also then for a free after an injury ridden spell at Newcastle

      History shows it was a mistake. I've already covered the crap 2005/06 league campaign. How many points did we lose by refusing to pay up? 10? 15? 20? More? When we didn't sign him for free, it showed the earlier refusal had nothing to do with the fee, he just wouldn't sign him at any price. The 2010 season was a write off.

      We let a 158 goalscorer go, by choice. We didn't rectify the error and resign him when we had not one, but two chances to do it with consequences on the pitch. That is also on the Rafa CV here.

      Houllier was sacked because finishing fourth at the time, 30 points down the field, was considered a poor season. It was in Parry's own words, "a minimum acceptable target, not a goal". Therefore the goal was for the next man in charge, to win the league. If we wanted to make the top 4, Houllier would have remained in charge, still trying and failing to take Emile Heskey to the next level.

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      I know exactly how hard but it’s still the CL - the biggest Comp in club football - too right I rate it over what GH did . Ask any player what they would prefer - the CL or the three cup comps - answer would be the CL

      I wouldn't ask any player to prefer a trophy. To me, a cup is a cup is a cup, it's a trophy to put in the cabinet. I would ask them "what do you want to win?" The smart ones would say "anything". And right now we need something, even if it is only the League Cup. Just win something, it's been way too long prioritising this over that against the other, and ending up with nothing whatsoever.
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9967: Sep 25, 2018 11:37:27 am
      The goalposts haven't been moved at all. They were the demands when they, and Rafa took the job. Klopp has the top 4 demand now. While we the fans, hope for more than that, as long as he delivers a top 4 spot, the owners are happy.

      In your opinion!!

      Newcastle paid the fee demanded. We bought Crouch instead who couldn't score at all until after the league cup was gone, and the title challenge was well and truly over.

      If he really wanted Owen, he would have paid up. When we get ripped off now, as we often are, Klopp tells us to "forget about the fee" and focus on the football. So that's what we do.

      So you're judging Rafa, who didn't have the same money to spend as Klopp does now, on what he did then based on the money we have now?

      Newcastle needed something, hence the embarrassing transfer welcoming party at St James Park. Rafa had already spoken to Owen, told him he would try and do a deal with Real but we would not be paying the £16 million fee. Owen saw his arse and panicked about his England place and signed for Newcastle, that's an absolute fact!!

      Real had forgotten about Owen. There was no bids in for Owen until he was put up for sale. Only at that point did Real do business. So the idea that he was "always going that summer" is simply not true.

      Danny Murphy didn't even get as far as the bench in Graz. He was sold to break up the "Scouse Table" at Melwood. Cold and calculating, like so many other players' experiences of him, as time went on.

      What we have today is a manager of a happy and settled dressing room, where everyone wants to play for him, and others want to sign for him. Even those who can't. The difference between the two of them, is as wide as the difference in the league table.

      Again wrong!! Why would Real have forgotten about Owen and of course there were no bids for Owen when Rafa walked in the door, might go down as tapping up otherwise, softlad!! Doesn't mean discussions hadn't taken place in the background, otherwise why did Owen consistently knock back a contract that was offered to him? That's how Real do business in the real world, so yeah he was going!!

      Cold and calculating, that's why he's only recently left a warm twitter message for Stephen Darby regarding his diagnosis for Motor Neurone disease, so another one of your jibes at Rafa that is utter bullshit. As for Danny, someone had to leave, he brought in Alonso and Garcia, wouldn't you say with what followed, they were upgrades on gassed out by the 65th minute Danny Murphy? So again a cold and calculating move that was right!!

      I've said it before but the outright f**king lies put out by you and the other divvy is akin to the f**king bellends who kept telling me Hodgson was a better fit for us than Rafa in the summer of 2010. You and they will always be f**king wrong.







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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9968: Sep 25, 2018 11:40:33 am

      If we wanted to make the top 4, Houllier would have remained in charge, still trying and failing to take Emile Heskey to the next level.

      Again you're wrong with your sh*t jibes, Houllier sold Heskey just before he was sacked!!

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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9969: Sep 25, 2018 02:06:26 pm
      So you're judging Rafa, who didn't have the same money to spend as Klopp does now, on what he did then based on the money we have now?
      The money back then is vastly different from the money Clubs get in TV rights, So saying Klopp has more more now is in one way correct, But players cost a lot less back then so it evens it out...
      Klopp does not spend money for the sake of spend it...The difference between Klopp and Rafa in that respect is that Klopp tries to buy quality players and if he can not get his target he will sit on the money. Rafa on the other hand will buy players even if they are poor just to spend the money, then moan that he as not been given the money he needs...

      Like it or not the simple fact is Rafa was given the money to buy players but spent it poorly
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      Reply #9970: Sep 25, 2018 02:23:05 pm

      Like it or not the simple fact is Rafa was given the money to buy players but spent it poorly

      Strange..We earned more money on players sold that Rafa had bought or recommended than any other manager..
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      Reply #9971: Sep 25, 2018 02:29:17 pm
      Strange..We earned more money on players sold that Rafa had bought or recommended than any other manager..

      Masch, Alonso, Torres.
      Such poor buys.

      Certainly not up there with "5 goals" Riera, "Can't get a game at West Ham" Benayoun and "Where the f**k did my career go, down a blind alley?" Babel.
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      Reply #9972: Sep 25, 2018 02:39:42 pm
      Like it or not the simple fact is Rafa was given the money to buy players but spent it poorly

      Fact? As a whole he spent money poorly?

      Seriously, just swivel. Full of it.
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      Reply #9973: Sep 25, 2018 02:50:36 pm
      Masch, Alonso, Torres.
      Such poor buys.

      Certainly not up there with "5 goals" Riera, "Can't get a game at West Ham" Benayoun and "Where the f**k did my career go, down a blind alley?" Babel.

      Kuyt,Maxi too..

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      Reply #9974: Sep 25, 2018 03:30:45 pm
      Strange..We earned more money on players sold that Rafa had bought or recommended than any other manager..
      That's not the point though, the point is he had the money to spend
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      Reply #9975: Sep 25, 2018 03:34:11 pm
      I am not disputing that he bought some good, no, great players but he also bought some poor players when he did not need to spend the money and seemed to spend it for the sake of it
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      Reply #9976: Sep 25, 2018 03:45:44 pm
      I am not disputing that he bought some good, no, great players but he also bought some poor players when he did not need to spend the money and seemed to spend it for the sake of it

      At what point do believe Rafa started to buy poor players..

      Under Moore's.
      During H&G.
      After H&G.
      Under Broughton & Purslow.

      Factor everything in and give your answer.. take in consideration,Intrest payments, Bank Loans, buying from clubs that owed LFC monies..selling star players & not spending full return on like for like..
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      Reply #9977: Sep 25, 2018 04:06:30 pm
      I am not disputing that he bought some good, no, great players but he also bought some poor players when he did not need to spend the money and seemed to spend it for the sake of it

      Called trying to build a squad, isn't it?
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      Reply #9978: Sep 25, 2018 04:10:13 pm
      The money back then is vastly different from the money Clubs get in TV rights, So saying Klopp has more more now is in one way correct, But players cost a lot less back then so it evens it out...
      Klopp does not spend money for the sake of spend it...The difference between Klopp and Rafa in that respect is that Klopp tries to buy quality players and if he can not get his target he will sit on the money. Rafa on the other hand will buy players even if they are poor just to spend the money, then moan that he as not been given the money he needs...

      Like it or not the simple fact is Rafa was given the money to buy players but spent it poorly

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      Reply #9979: Sep 25, 2018 04:38:37 pm
      At what point do believe Rafa started to buy poor players..

      Under Moore's.
      During H&G.
      After H&G.
      Under Broughton & Purslow.

      Factor everything in and give your answer.. take in consideration,Intrest payments, Bank Loans, buying from clubs that owed LFC monies..selling star players & not spending full return on like for like..
      Equally under Moore's as he did Under H&G, slightly more under Moore's
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      Reply #9980: Sep 25, 2018 04:50:32 pm
      Called trying to build a squad, isn't it?
      You have a player like Danny Murphy in the squad as you take over as manager, Any manager worth their salt would have researched the team he was taking over as manage...Now regardless of how good a player you bring in to replace another you try to keep that player as back up,yes...Rafa brings in Alonso and sell Murphy straight away...?? Sorry but Murphy may not have been as adapt as Alonso at passing, but Murphy was still a very good passer of the ball and carried More of an attacking and goal scoring threat than Alonso, so why sell...??

      Klopp is building a squad, it does not mean you buy players for the sake of buying them, you pick and chose and wait if you have too
      Rafa was like a little fat kid in a sweet shop except the sweets were players and he wanted as many as he could, but it was never enough, as soon as he saw anew sweet he wanted that too
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9981: Sep 25, 2018 04:53:43 pm
      More I watch this it is the more i like it... :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: It is very much like me when i think of Rafa  ;D
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      Reply #9982: Sep 25, 2018 04:54:00 pm
      The goalposts haven't been moved at all. They were the demands when they, and Rafa took the job. Klopp has the top 4 demand now. While we the fans, hope for more than that, as long as he delivers a top 4 spot, the owners are happy.

      Newcastle paid the fee demanded. We bought Crouch instead who couldn't score at all until after the league cup was gone, and the title challenge was well and truly over.

      If he really wanted Owen, he would have paid up. When we get ripped off now, as we often are, Klopp tells us to "forget about the fee" and focus on the football. So that's what we do.

      Real had forgotten about Owen. There was no bids in for Owen until he was put up for sale. Only at that point did Real do business. So the idea that he was "always going that summer" is simply not true.

      Danny Murphy didn't even get as far as the bench in Graz. He was sold to break up the "Scouse Table" at Melwood. Cold and calculating, like so many other players' experiences of him, as time went on.

      What we have today is a manager of a happy and settled dressing room, where everyone wants to play for him, and others want to sign for him. Even those who can't. The difference between the two of them, is as wide as the difference in the league table.

      History shows it was a mistake. I've already covered the crap 2005/06 league campaign. How many points did we lose by refusing to pay up? 10? 15? 20? More? When we didn't sign him for free, it showed the earlier refusal had nothing to do with the fee, he just wouldn't sign him at any price. The 2010 season was a write off.

      We let a 158 goalscorer go, by choice. We didn't rectify the error and resign him when we had not one, but two chances to do it with consequences on the pitch. That is also on the Rafa CV here.

      Houllier was sacked because finishing fourth at the time, 30 points down the field, was considered a poor season. It was in Parry's own words, "a minimum acceptable target, not a goal". Therefore the goal was for the next man in charge, to win the league. If we wanted to make the top 4, Houllier would have remained in charge, still trying and failing to take Emile Heskey to the next level.

      I wouldn't ask any player to prefer a trophy. To me, a cup is a cup is a cup, it's a trophy to put in the cabinet. I would ask them "what do you want to win?" The smart ones would say "anything". And right now we need something, even if it is only the League Cup. Just win something, it's been way too long prioritising this over that against the other, and ending up with nothing whatsoever.
      Didn’t we win the FA Cup in the season Crouch arrived ? Didn’t Crouch outscore Owen

      Owen was his own person and his history after leaving us is injuries and a lack of goals , he is also the person who refused to play to ensure he didn’t get injured so it didn’t ruin his chance of getting a new contract

      You appear to make stuff up

      1. Owen was leaving in the summer of 04 , he told Parry he wanted to leave , told Rafa he wanted to leave - it was Owens choice to leave no one else’s - that was confirmed by Parry , Rafa , Gerrard and Carra

      2. Liverpool didn’t want to spend double the fee on a player that 12 months previous asked to leave - Rafa moved on from him and looked to players like Kuyt , Torres etc

      Owen did score a lot of goals early in his career - but he then focused in England and got injuries.

      Rafa was right to not spend £16mil on him
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9983: Sep 25, 2018 06:17:22 pm
      You appear to make stuff up

      1. Owen was leaving in the summer of 04 , he told Parry he wanted to leave , told Rafa he wanted to leave - it was Owens choice to leave no one else’s - that was confirmed by Parry , Rafa , Gerrard and Carra

      2. Liverpool didn’t want to spend double the fee on a player that 12 months previous asked to leave - Rafa moved on from him and looked to players like Kuyt , Torres etc

      Owen did score a lot of goals early in his career - but he then focused in England and got injuries.

      Rafa was right to not spend £16mil on him

      Let Owen do the talking for the idiot.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dUMu0Zud5U

      Glad it didn't go through.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ2nM3OSbrs

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YFEwTa_DjU
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      Reply #9984: Sep 25, 2018 06:51:19 pm
      The money back then is vastly different from the money Clubs get in TV rights, So saying Klopp has more more now is in one way correct, But players cost a lot less back then so it evens it out...

      ;D no it doesnt "even out". Rafa never had the chance to have the most expensive goalkeeper and defender in the world signed on the same year.

      Liverpool's most expensive central defender up until the end of Rafa's years was Martin Skrtel who cost £6.5m in 2008.

      Our rivals at the time had the likes of Rio Ferdinand, signed for £22.5m more (£30m) six years earlier (2002) and Ricardo Carvalho, signed for £13.5m more (£20m), four years earlier (2004).

      I believe the Skrtel transfer fee would only go on to be beaten at LFC 5 years later when Rodgers signed Sakho for about £18m in 2013, by which time all of United, Chelsea and Man City would have other more expensive defenders on their squads too.

      So it most definitely does not even out, you have to be deeply invested in revisionist history to seriously believe that.
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9985: Sep 25, 2018 07:19:22 pm
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      Rafa had already spoken to Owen, told him he would try and do a deal with Real but we would not be paying the £16 million fee. Owen saw his arse and panicked about his England place and signed for Newcastle, that's an absolute fact!!

      Doesn't mean discussions hadn't taken place in the background, otherwise why did Owen consistently knock back a contract that was offered to him? That's how Real do business in the real world, so yeah he was going!!

      As for Danny, someone had to leave, he brought in Alonso and Garcia, wouldn't you say with what followed, they were upgrades on gassed out by the 65th minute Danny Murphy?

      Even if they were upgrades, I don't think sitting around your mates at a table minding your own business, should be considered a sackable offence.

      Coutinho and Suarez told the club they wanted to abandon ship as well. That doesn't mean the club have to sell them. When they did abandon ship, they did at a time that suited us, not them. Without a club willing to sell, a club willing to buy, and a player deciding to go, a transfer cannot happen.

      Whatever Rafa said to him, he had no intention of buying him, and the fee was just a convenient excuse not to. Look what the mancs paid to get Pogba back. The fee demanded wasn't an issue.

      As for Owen, he wanted to play for his country at the World Cup, like many players do. But he waited as long as he could for us to pay the fee. When it was patently clear we wouldn't, he had to look at other options. Lots of players do it, he wasn't the first and he won't be the last.

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      His win record is better than Houliers, Rodgers and so far Jurgens so instead of attacking his record we are told he was unkind to a few players and wouldn't tell them well done and pat them on the head.
      I am more than convinced any true Liverpool supporter would not behave in this way and if they had some issues they would keep them to themselves so as to not take anything away from the many many wonderful nights at Anfield he gave us

      You're in a Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread, so should be prepared to see him get credit and criticism. As you would in pretty much any other serious discussion thread, here or elsewhere.

      We did have a few wonderful nights and he gets credit for them. We also had many crap days and nights with him here, so he should be criticised for them, and he is. Sorry you don't like it, but that's just how it is. It's nothing personal, it's all football related.
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9986: Sep 25, 2018 07:37:52 pm
      Sorry you don't like it, but that's just how it is. It's nothing personal, it's all football related.

      Buddy i don't know You and i was not a supporter when Rafa was at the club so i honestly don't have any skin in the game.

      Saying it's not personal while posting as much as You do about him fly's in the face of any logic.

      It's definitely personal...why i don't know but it most certainly is.
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9987: Sep 25, 2018 07:41:56 pm
      Even if they were upgrades, I don't think sitting around your mates at a table minding your own business, should be considered a sackable offence.

      You'll have to run that by me again, cos I've f**king lost whatever point you were on about!!

      As for Owen, he wanted to play for his country at the World Cup, like many players do. But he waited as long as he could for us to pay the fee. When it was patently clear we wouldn't, he had to look at other options. Lots of players do it, he wasn't the first and he won't be the last.

      Good!!  :D

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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9988: Sep 25, 2018 08:37:57 pm
      The money back then is vastly different from the money Clubs get in TV rights, So saying Klopp has more more now is in one way correct, But players cost a lot less back then so it evens it out...
      Klopp does not spend money for the sake of spend it...The difference between Klopp and Rafa in that respect is that Klopp tries to buy quality players and if he can not get his target he will sit on the money. Rafa on the other hand will buy players even if they are poor just to spend the money, then moan that he as not been given the money he needs...

      Like it or not the simple fact is Rafa was given the money to buy players but spent it poorly

      What a load of steaming horse manure.
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #9989: Sep 25, 2018 09:14:34 pm
      The money back then is vastly different from the money Clubs get in TV rights, So saying Klopp has more more now is in one way correct, But players cost a lot less back then so it evens it out...
      Klopp does not spend money for the sake of spend it...The difference between Klopp and Rafa in that respect is that Klopp tries to buy quality players and if he can not get his target he will sit on the money. Rafa on the other hand will buy players even if they are poor just to spend the money, then moan that he as not been given the money he needs...

      Like it or not the simple fact is Rafa was given the money to buy players but spent it poorly

      Sorry but that’s complete bull

      But you can try and back up your statement that he bought players just to spend money by naming the players

      Every single player bought was done to fill a spot in the squad or replace someone - so go ahead and name the players he bought just to spend money

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