David Ngog (West Brom)

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West Brom are looking to add Liverpool striker David Ngog to their squad list for next season and want him on loan.

 The Frenchman was a bit part player for the Reds last season, although he did manage to score eight goals. He is likely to be in the same position this time around.

West Brom boss Roberto Di Matteo is looking to add to his frontline as he plots a course for the Baggies to take in which they can survive their first season in the Premiership.

Liverpool signed he 21-year-old from Paris St Germain in 2008 on a four-year contract.

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I'd have no problem with him going out on loan to gain more first team experience. I'm hoping we don't have to rely on him so much this year anyway!

Wouldn't do him any harm. 

Depends on what happens with other players hopefully coming in, and hopefully not going out.

Loan?

I'd allow it.

Sale? Could come back to haunt us, he needs a bit of muscle on him and a 2/3 years experience and he could be okay finisher.

How much could we sell him for?

That interest's going up like the clappers.

My mate who supports Blackburn said he's rumoured to be going there on loan, too.

I'd say it all depends on our other transfer dealings. Last year we pretty much had Torres, Kuyt and N'Gog. We don't want to be in a situation this year where we only have Torres and Kuyt.

If we perhaps bring in a few strikers then I'm all for the loan move. He gets ripped a lot by supporters and none supporters but he does have some potential for the future.

My mate who supports Blackburn said he's rumoured to be going there on loan, too.

I'd say it all depends on our other transfer dealings. Last year we pretty much had Torres, Kuyt and N'Gog. We don't want to be in a situation this year where we only have Torres and Kuyt.

If we perhaps bring in a few strikers then I'm all for the loan move. He gets ripped a lot by supporters and none supporters but he does have some potential for the future.

Move him on i say. Not good enough for Liverpool Football Club. He had chance after chance last season and failed to deliver. Young or not, he's doesn't make the grade.

But how much did we pay for him? Hardly anything if I remember correctly. Was it £1.5m?

I can't see us getting any better for that kind of price.

Had a chance last season and was found sadly lacking, unfortunaly not good enough may as well get some money for him

But how much did we pay for him? Hardly anything if I remember correctly. Was it £1.5m?

I can't see us getting any better for that kind of price.

I reckon we'd get 3 million for him, would be a good bit of business in my opinion. Just not good enough.

Well, if we could double our money on him then I don't see why not.

Should go on loan or sold for a couple of million. Quite simply should not be starting games for us. Has a lot of the time an excellent first touch but beyond that - nothing.

id much rather him go out on loan and we hang on to nemeth and pop him into a few games

A loan is the perfect situation for him. That's what proper clubs do...loan out the youngsters to top division clubs to get experience rather than rack the pressure on them expecting the youngster to be a world beater with a few sub appearances. Should have done the same with babel a few years back.

Let him go on loan, get some experience and I reckon he could have a future at this club, he needs another dimension to his game to make him top quality.

Dont think he needs a loan deal myself. He has already broke into our first team and we have only Torres as a central striker.

Loan.Ngog out.

Play Dani Pacheco.

Ngog is championship quality at best, cash in now & give Dani more game time.

sell him for a couple of million and give pacheo a chance

sell him for a couple of million and give pacheo a chance

Surely you mean Pacheco?

A loan is the perfect situation for him. That's what proper clubs do...loan out the youngsters to top division clubs to get experience rather than rack the pressure on them expecting the youngster to be a world beater with a few sub appearances. Should have done the same with babel a few years back.

Really?

Did we loan out Gerrard, Owen or Fowler etc?

Did Barcelona loan out Messi? Or Pedro?

Really?

Did we loan out Gerrard, Owen or Fowler etc?

Did Barcelona loan out Messi? Or Pedro?

It's not really fair to compare N'Gog to those players, they were all far better at N'Gog's age than he is.

I like what I've seen of N'Gog, he has a knack of getting into very dangerous positions, he seems to have that striker's instinct.

However, I do feel he'd benefit from playing every week, and I don't think he's ready to do that for us.

I do think a loan - to the right club - would benefit both parties.

Crap idea.I want him to stay here,get some 15 odd appearances in the season and continue his learning with best in the business.What is he going to learn at West Brom?

Because those players were clearly of the quality already to warrant a place in the first team due to their obvious talent and huge potential. Ngog has neither. But he can be very good and in order to be so he has be allowed to get some real match experience, be consistently played and be allowed to progress without the massive level of expectation and pressure that the current club situation has created.

West Brom are keen to sign Swedish striker Marcus Berg on a season-long loan deal from Hamburg, although the German side are demanding a "substantial" fee.  The Baggies are also keen on Liverpool forward David Ngog following their return to the Premier League. (Daily Express)

Id let him go, give some other young guy's a crack at it.

Liverpool have blocked a proposed deal for French striker David Ngog to go to West Brom on a season-long loan deal in case they cannot bring in two new strikers before the transfer window shuts.
Full story: Daily Mail

Liverpool have blocked a proposed deal for French striker David Ngog to go to West Brom on a season-long loan deal in case they cannot bring in two new strikers before the transfer window shuts.
Full story: Daily Mail

Here you go mate.....

Liverpool say no to David Ngog loan switch to West Brom as Roy Hodgson faces striker shortage

Liverpool have blocked a proposed loan deal for David Ngog to West Brom.

The French striker, 21, was wanted for the season by Roberto di Matteo but Liverpool need him as cover unless they can bring in two new strikers before the window shuts.

Meanwhile, Palermo have confirmed making an opening offer for Liverpool midfielder Lucas Leiva.

The Serie A side have offered around £3million but Liverpool want closer to £8m for the Brazilian.

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Sell him or loan him he is not good enough but only if we have better strikers in place or promote Pacheco & Nemeth and give them some games in the League Cup etc and see how they get on.

He wants to stay, I don't exactly see that as great news to be honest.

He wants to stay, I don't exactly see that as great news to be honest.

But it shows the lad has a good attitude and wants to stay, unlike that tw*t Yossi!!

It shows how fu**ed we are Huyton though, we cant afford to send a lad out on loan to West Brom because we need him.

Liverpool want to sell David Ngog for £6m as they try to raise funds for new signings.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Liverpool want £6 million for French fringe striker David N'Gog as they try to raise funds for new players.

N'Gog can go at the right price - quoted to several clubs in the Premier League and round Europe - although he may have to play in the Europa League qualifiers before going.

The Kop squad man is wanted by West Brom on loan, while Newcastle and Bolton have made inquiries about his availability - but the valuation is way too high.

Liverpool are still hopeful of a big pay day on N'Gog, with Nice's Loic Remy on their hit list but valued at around £14.3 million.

Read more: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liverpool-transfer-news-Reds-demand-6m-for-West-Brom-Newcastle-and-Bolton-target-David-N-Gog-article531177.html#ixzz0uIiGTLfh
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Really?

Did we loan out Gerrard, Owen or Fowler etc?

Did Barcelona loan out Messi? Or Pedro?

Messi was looking to being the best player in the world at 18/19. Owen was at the world cup at 18, scoring against Argentina, so kinda pointless comparing Ngog of all people to those type of players.

Not hope of getting £6 million for this lad, have to admit would not be sad to see him go.

Honestly, I think we just take whatever we can get for him.  I rate Dalle Valle, Pacheco, and Eccleston as more promising youngsters than Ngog.  His first touch lets him down too often, his finishing is far from lethal, and his link-up/holding play is substandard.  Bottom line, even if he makes massive improvements, I don't see him ever being "the future of french soccer" like he was touted to be.  Sell him off to raise funds for new players (1st choice LB) and allow other youngsters a chance to impress. 

David N’Gog is digging in his heels about leaving Liverpool - and putting off clubs with his £2million-a-year wages.

The French reserve striker has been offered to a handful of Premier League clubs and valued at £6million, but he wants to stay put at Anfield - despite his slim chances of a game.

West Brom, Newcastle and Bolton have all inquired about taking N’Gog on loan, which could yet be an option at the end of the window, but the bill is even bigger than expected because of his salary.

N’Gog could find himself squeezed further down the pecking order if Roy Hodgson lands any of his striking targets, but for now he is holding out for a crack at the first team.

Read more: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-news-Liverpool-cant-sell-David-N-Gog-because-of-2m-a-year-wage-demands-article537293.html#ixzz0umAXJxBE
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Prob £4m tops. At this rate, Purslow will be both left back and centre forward.

£2Million a year wages is a joke for a player who's done f-all so far.

£2Million a year wages is a joke for a player who's done f-all so far.

I wouldn't pay him £10 a year

I think the lad has been harshley criticised,last season he had to take the step up from torres but I guess the pressure on him last season must have been immense but he handled it well,just remember when crouchy first arrived did not settle well then one or two goals and he ended up being prolific for england and us.

Give the lad a break.

He might not be the best striker at hte club...but given our shortage of players in that position, I wouldnt send him anywhere on loan. Either sell him or let him stay.

Prob £4m tops. At this rate, Purslow will be both left back and centre forward.

I'd say 50p tops. Don't know why you value somebody so rubbish at £4m

I'd say 50p tops. Don't know why you value somebody so rubbish at £4m

The lads done nothing wrong.. He got his head down and didn't do too badly considering the boots he had to try and fill.. I recken there was at least 8 players last season who played worse.. And some of those players were worth millions .. He no way deserves such criticism..

50p tops??.. Only Dick-ed would say that?

The lads done nothing wrong.. He got his head down and didn't do too badly considering the boots he had to try and fill.. I recken there was at least 8 players last season who played worse.. And some of those players were worth millions .. He no way deserves such criticism..

50p tops??.. Only Dick-ed would say that?

Dick-ed? Didn't know personally aimed abusive comments were allowed on such sites but nevermind. Just thought id ask how on earth you could rate a player like Ngog at £4m? He practically did bugger all for us last season and i wish people would stop making up excuses for him that he had to fill the boots of Torres, if that got to him so much then he isn't as good as your making him out to be.

I agree with the above - he is no way worth £4Million, and with wages @£2Million no one is going to go anywhere near him..! The guy just isent good enough, in the last 2 games he has done nothing, same as last season.

Dick-ed? Didn't know personally aimed abusive comments were allowed on such sites but nevermind. Just thought id ask how on earth you could rate a player like Ngog at £4m? He practically did bugger all for us last season and I wish people would stop making up excuses for him that he had to fill the boots of Torres, if that got to him so much then he isn't as good as your making him out to be.

I'm not trying to make him out to be the finished article and thinking about it, having to fill Nando's boots shouldn't be an excuse, I'll give you that but justify saying he's worth 50p if you can.. I just felt it was a stupid comment towards a young player bought for peanuts that didn't do any worse than any of the other more popular players..

I'm not trying to make him out to be the finished article and thinking about it, having to fill Nando's boots shouldn't be an excuse, I'll give you that but justify saying he's worth 50p if you can.. I just felt it was a stupid comment towards a young player bought for peanuts that didn't do any worse than any of the other more popular players..

50p was just a number i made up in my head, really meaning to explain that he's worth nothing near £4m. The more popular players are obviously in the spot light more so more focus goes into their performances than the lesser profile players like Ngog but he doesn't use his attributes to his advantage at times, i have to say though that he does get himself into some good positions. I shall reserve any further judgement then until i see him perform with a striker alongside him.

Kuyt - 11 in 53
Gerrard - 12 in 46
Ngog - 8 in 37

And Gerrard/Kuyt mainly start. Yeah because all the critisism Ngog get's is deserved.

I'd say he's worth £4million. He has showed glimpses of quality over the last two seasons and has a decent goal record. I've seen much worse players move for £4million+ before.

I'd say he's worth £4million. He has showed glimpses of quality over the last two seasons and has a decent goal record. I've seen much worse players move for £4million+ before.

Kuyt - 11 in 53
Gerrard - 12 in 46
Ngog - 8 in 37

And Gerrard/Kuyt mainly start. Yeah because all the critisism Ngog get's is deserved.

Seriously, this is not a great games to goals ratio! you have to compaire like for like - Ngog is a striker playing as a striker, Kuyt and Gerrard are not playing up top so there ratio's are not only better or equal but there better from midfield..! If we go down that route dident Morientes score 9 in 41? Now you wouldnt pay £4Million for that and he was a proven goal scorer, not a kid with potiential...

A goal every 4.76 games is not a £4Million signing - let alone the £2Million in wages he is reportidley after. If we spent money like that you would not be impressed with Roy (or Rafa when he did it!)

I'd say he's worth £4million. He has showed glimpses of quality over the last two seasons and has a decent goal record. I've seen much worse players move for £4million+ before.

Think you are exaggerating a little bit with the 'quality' comment, his goal to games ratio is below par - i will say though that he does come on mostly as a sub but is sort of ineffective when he does come on. And just because other players move for £4m or more, it doesn't automatically mean he is worth £4m.

will he even get in the first team next season though. torres will be first choice. then hopefully a new striker. 3rd choice will be jovanovic. 4th choice would be kuyt. then i'd hope it's pacheco to get a few games. if he goes on loan he'll get playing matches, though i'd rather he be sold.

West Brom is just about his level, championship quality at best, never be good enough for us.

West Brom is just about his level, championship quality at best, never be good enough for us.

truth

How many experienced players have come into the Premiership and failed? Too many to mention.

Ngog is not only young and inexperienced but had to be thrown into a new league in a new country and played predominantly on his own up front for a team devoid of confidence.

Come on lads, give the lad a break. We all know he isn't ready to be first choice for us but with a bit more experience under his belt, there's every chance he could turn into a useful player, especially as part of a front 2.
If he needs to go out on loan to gain that experience then so be it but I genuinely think he has real potential. Even if you don't agree then I refer you to the bit in bold and you'll surely admit he should be given another chance??

I would be happy if this lad is sold he is clearly not good enough for a top Premiership club, his all round game is awful.

Could shine at Brom.

Not here though. I like him and think he is better than what most say but he won't have the game time he needs to improve and be the player he can be at Liverpool. Could make 4m like paulrobbo said.

Seriously, this is not a great games to goals ratio! you have to compaire like for like - Ngog is a striker playing as a striker, Kuyt and Gerrard are not playing up top so there ratio's are not only better or equal but there better from midfield..! If we go down that route dident Morientes score 9 in 41? Now you wouldnt pay £4Million for that and he was a proven goal scorer, not a kid with potiential...

A goal every 4.76 games is not a £4Million signing - let alone the £2Million in wages he is reportidley after. If we spent money like that you would not be impressed with Roy (or Rafa when he did it!)

Just seen the score! Going to get a plate, knife and fork... Then a place a massive slice of humble pie on it and chow down!

I bet some of you lot that slated him feel like cocks now, give him a break, he's developing well and is doing a decent job when suddenly relied on.

I bet some of you lot that slated him feel like cocks now, give him a break, he's developing well and is doing a decent job when suddenly relied on.

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You can't change your opinion on one decent performance, consistency is key, I'll wait til I start seeing consistency from Ngog before I change my mind about Ngog

You can't change your opinion on one decent performance, consistency is key, I'll wait til I start seeing consistency from Ngog before I change my mind about Ngog

How about two more goals in the return leg

Still would be extremely happy if we got £6 million for him.

Could have the potential to be our top scorer this season.

I sh*t you not.

You are joking Shabs are you.

You are joking Shabs are you.

Got a feeling mate! a wierd feeling that he is gonna be explosive this season.

Scores two against a pub team & now he's gonna get a hat full.

Jaysus explosive mate, don't get carried away there defence was a joke tonight.

Ngog took the goals well still thought his all round game was fairly poor. I'd sell him if we got a decent fee

F***ing KEEP HIM.

Nah but I always wanted to keep him anyway. Loan him out if anything.

Scores two against a pub team & now he's gonna get a hat full.

Today's game has no bearing in what i have posted,i think he will prove a number of people wrong given the chance.

Love your optimism Shabs agree with you on most things have to say we will agree to differ on this lad though.

Yeah I think we should hold onto him for this season. He has seemed to bulk up and I liked what I saw today, after he scored the first goal he seemed to gain more confidence.

We'll see, still think he'd benefit by a loan love and being more guaranteed starts.

Scores two against a pub team & now he's gonna get a hat full.

You can only beat (or score against) what's put in-front of you.

Hodgson said in an interview he never talked about moving him.....I wonder if Purslime did?

good lad ngog, well done.

he played well last night, would be a shame to see him go. he's got potential and i look forward to him fulfilling that potential in future seasons at liverpool

This needs to be locked - Woy says he is staying