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      Lack Of Depth In Central Midfield

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      Lack Of Depth In Central Midfield
      Aug 27, 2010 09:43:10 am
      Might just be me, but I am very concerned about the central midfield now

      Lucas, Poulsen, Gerrard

      I Bloody hope Roy has plans to get someone else in now Aquilani and Mascherano have gone...
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      Re: Lack Of Depth In Central Midfield
      Reply #1: Aug 27, 2010 09:45:19 am
      I agree, can you imagine if Gerrard has another injury hit season.
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      Reply #2: Aug 27, 2010 09:46:55 am
      Also, If Poulsen struggles to adapt to the league!

      I am seriously worried that we need 2-3 new central midfielders just for cover now!
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      Reply #3: Aug 27, 2010 09:47:18 am
      You forgot Spearing  :f_tongueincheek:

      No honestly mate it's a sight for sore eyes. I would love to see Defour or Inler. Preferably Defour as he is a box to box midfielder we crave.
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      Reply #4: Aug 27, 2010 09:49:59 am
      I'd love us to sign De Rossi, Lassana Diarra, Sissoko or Alonso ;)
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      Reply #5: Aug 27, 2010 09:52:34 am
      I'd love us to sign De Rossi, Lassana Diarra, Sissoko or Alonso ;)

      Is that Moussa or our old Sissoko? The midfielders you state are out of our price range.
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      Reply #6: Aug 27, 2010 09:53:57 am
      Is that Moussa or our old Sissoko? The midfielders you state are out of our price range.

      Well Hodge has £16m to spend!

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      Reply #7: Aug 27, 2010 10:23:25 am
      Well Hodge has £16m to spend!


      Don't bloody count on it!!
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      Reply #8: Aug 27, 2010 10:26:22 am
      Without Gerrard  who has had his fair share of injuries over the last couple of years, I think this is the worst Liverpool midfield I can ever remember.

      In 25 years following the club I've not seen a worse partnership or pair as Lucas and Poulsen. Dark times ahead.
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      Reply #9: Aug 27, 2010 10:27:15 am

      Is anyone available on a free?
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      Reply #10: Aug 27, 2010 10:36:20 am
      Remember when we had the best midfield in the world. . . Asset stripping in full effect. One of the least experienced squads I can remember. Step forward youth players. We need you
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      Reply #11: Aug 27, 2010 10:38:02 am

      Bang on, and it breaks my heart!
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      Reply #12: Aug 27, 2010 10:43:19 am
      If Gerrard gets a bad injury we are fu**ed because a midfield with Poulsen and Lucas is just not good enough. Both players are extremely mediocre and are incapable of passing the ball forward.

       I would never play them together then I would never play either of them to be honest. Prefer to see Shelvey in there now at least he will pass the ball forward.
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      Reply #13: Aug 27, 2010 10:45:58 am
      Were all hurting man. When I think how close we were two seasons ago and how quickly the club is being cleared out by our 'owners'. . . Makes me sick to my stomach. Jail would be too good for them. String them up in the Sahara
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      Reply #14: Aug 27, 2010 10:47:34 am
      We used have a midfield of Sissoko, Alonso, Mascherano and Gerrard now we have Poulsen, Lucas and an older Gerrard. I would take Sissoko ahead of Lucas and Poulsen. Obviously so would Juventus.
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      Reply #15: Aug 27, 2010 10:54:27 am
      I would have kept Momo alright. But hey when could we ever keep players. Now we have his number two from Juve. Christ. Woah woah woe. We had the best midfield in the world. Xabi Alonso, Momo Sissoko, Gerrard and Mascheranooo. F ML 
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      Reply #16: Aug 27, 2010 10:58:24 am
      That used to be our strength the spine, now we have a massive weakness in there. Loved Masch thought he was an exceptional player sadly I can't say the same about either Lucas or Poulsen.

       Both players wouldn't get near any other half decent team in the Premierships starting line ups.
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      Reply #17: Aug 27, 2010 11:53:20 am
      It looks like a stitch up of epic proportions.... in fact its a bigger stitch up than my nan's quilt....
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      Reply #18: Aug 27, 2010 12:09:03 pm
      We lost the best midfields in the world. No more Alonso, no more Sissoko, Gerrard, No Mascheranooooo. Woah woah woah. :(

      The only option we have is for the young guns to step up. Has anyone heard from Plessis lately?
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      Reply #19: Aug 27, 2010 12:45:59 pm
      i loved mascha, but to be honest i dont want a player who doesn't want to play for the shirt. i think played more for rafa then lfc.

      but you're all correct, our midfield is a shadow of what it used to be. fair enough we have joe cole and gerrard, two world class midfielders, but defensively and for cover, we're bare bones.

      please somebody end the the c**ts who have pillaged our club. please.
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      Re: Lack Of Depth In Central Midfield
      Reply #20: Aug 27, 2010 12:52:12 pm
      Apparently we didn't need the money from Masch's transfer so really you'd expect us to spend some of it, you could get a very decent midfielder for £15 million, Defour for example.
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      Re: Lack Of Depth In Central Midfield
      Reply #21: Aug 27, 2010 01:07:55 pm
      You don't really believe that though you Stevie October the 6th is fast approaching and at the moment it doesn't look like the yanks want to sell.
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      Re: Lack Of Depth In Central Midfield
      Reply #22: Aug 27, 2010 01:08:11 pm
      Midfield last season was generally occupied by

      Mascherano
      Gerrard
      Aquilani
      Riera
      Benayoun
      Leiva
      Rodriguez
      Kuyt

      Now

      Gerrard
      Cole
      Leiva
      Poulsen
      Rodriguez
      Kuyt

      With the first two names likely to suffer injuries (not forgetting 4 of those players are over 30), then I would have to say this season is going to be an exceptionally tiresome one.
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      Re: Lack Of Depth In Central Midfield
      Reply #23: Aug 27, 2010 01:10:08 pm
      McCarthy off Wigan. Young, can pass and can tackle as well as being good on the ball. He'd add depth to the midfield
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      Re: Lack Of Depth In Central Midfield
      Reply #24: Aug 27, 2010 01:12:05 pm
      He'd be a good squad player but we really need a top class replacement because Lucas and Poulsen are not going to be enough in midfield.
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      Reply #25: Aug 27, 2010 01:13:33 pm
      He'd be a good squad player but we really need a top class replacement because Lucas and Poulsen are not going to be enough in midfield.

      Unless all the Mach money is freed up dont think we could afford the type of player you mean
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      Reply #26: Aug 27, 2010 01:18:17 pm
      I know Brian and that is why now we are a mid table team rather than a genuine contender for a top 4 place.
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      Reply #27: Aug 27, 2010 01:45:23 pm
      Don't forgot Jonjo Shelvey, ready made class replacement for Stevie G.

      Obviously clutching at straws here, but I do honestly believe Jonjo will be a fantastic player to have in the centre of the park and I hope he if we're in a situation where we need to bring on a more attacking centre mid Roy looks to him rather than Poulsen.
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      Reply #28: Aug 27, 2010 02:25:28 pm
      You don't really believe that though you Stevie October the 6th is fast approaching and at the moment it doesn't look like the yanks want to sell.

      Nah you're right I don't believe it, but that's we've been told, if we don't need the money as Roy said then ideally it would be going straight to our transfer kitty in finding a replacement. That's how it would work under stable ownership anyway.
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      Reply #29: Aug 27, 2010 02:26:52 pm
      Ya agree Steve if we had normal owners but instead we have devious greedy vultures in charge of us.
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      Reply #30: Aug 27, 2010 02:30:39 pm
      In reality we need two new midfielders - a replacement for Aquilani (as people said, what happens if Gerrard is injured) and one for Mascherano (we need a world class player in there if we are to retain hope of beating the top teams). Banega, Defour and Parker on my wishlist.  Doubt we'd actually get any of these.
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      Reply #31: Aug 27, 2010 02:33:13 pm
      Think Roy will be given some of the Mash money,don't know how much,would like to see the money spent on a half decent striker and a creative midfielder.Someone mentioned defour,would be a great signing,how about a right winger and give Kuyt a chance up front with Torres,have not got much time to get someone in.Ashly Young would be a great buy.  ??? ???
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      Reply #32: Aug 27, 2010 02:33:25 pm
      Yeh, just two years ago, we had the best midfield in the world.

      NOW Everton has a better midfield than ours.

      F***'ing depressing.
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      Reply #33: Aug 27, 2010 02:33:56 pm
      Without Gerrard  who has had his fair share of injuries over the last couple of years, I think this is the worst Liverpool midfield I can ever remember.

      In 25 years following the club I've not seen a worse partnership or pair as Lucas and Poulsen. Dark times ahead.
      Couldn,t agree more with that statement. Injuries apart everyone gets them, i think the team that went out on that pitch last night, even though they got us through which i am gratefull for ,was without doubt one of the poorest teams i can remember us putting on the park for a european game , as well as they done getting us through it dont disguise the fact that we are very short on talent.
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      Reply #34: Aug 27, 2010 02:42:20 pm
      Didn't Torres say he'd only stay if quality players were brought in, so far we've had quality sold or loaned, & Lidl priced players brought in, something stinks here, if only it was the rotting corpses of the two cowboy tw*ts. I like Shelvey looks a decent player, but having Lucas & Poulsen paired up against anything but the worst off teams and we are fu**ed.
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      Reply #35: Aug 27, 2010 02:52:26 pm
      Couldn,t agree more with that statement. Injuries apart everyone gets them, I think the team that went out on that pitch last night, even though they got us through which I am gratefull for ,was without doubt one of the poorest teams I can remember us putting on the park for a european game , as well as they done getting us through it dont disguise the fact that we are very short on talent.

      Lucas and Aurelio away at fiorentina last season was the worst midfield for me. I remember the days of Paul Stewart in our midfield with Istvan Kozma. Now that was bad ;D.
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      Re: Lack Of Depth In Central Midfield
      Reply #36: Aug 27, 2010 02:54:14 pm
      Without Gerrard  who has had his fair share of injuries over the last couple of years, I think this is the worst Liverpool midfield I can ever remember.

      In 25 years following the club I've not seen a worse partnership or pair as Lucas and Poulsen. Dark times ahead.

      Stewart and kozma were worse ;D
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      Reply #37: Aug 27, 2010 02:56:47 pm
      Just seen reports about Mahamadou Diarra from Real Madrid... hope that doesn't happen.
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      Reply #38: Aug 27, 2010 02:57:59 pm
      I did say as far as i can remember don,t know if its my mind playing tricks or intentionally blocking out the sh*t we have had , the one you mention above well that just sent a shiver through me just thinking about it  :f_wah:
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      Reply #39: Aug 27, 2010 02:58:03 pm
      I know Brian and that is why now we are a mid table team rather than a genuine contender for a top 4 place.

      We are not a mid table team. So do you think we will finish 10th/11th this season? are you trying to say Rafa built a mid table team as we are only shy of Mascherano.
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      Reply #40: Aug 27, 2010 02:59:10 pm
      We are not a mid table team. So do you think we will finish 10th/11th this season?

      We'll know by christmas where we'll be finishing..
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      Reply #41: Aug 27, 2010 03:02:53 pm
      Was just thinking of a few names that we could possibly afford at around 15M. That's considering if the Masch's money is completely reinvested! Gago, Parker, Defour all come into my mind.

      Perhaps we could make a cheeky bid for Sneijder, since he so wants to play with Kuyt! ;D
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      Reply #42: Aug 27, 2010 03:06:56 pm
      We'll know by christmas where we'll be finishing..

      We will know in May. We have a good squad. Great? No! Good, Yes. Getting into the top 4 will be tough but we will be there with Arsenal, Spurs and Citeh in the shake up.

      To say we are a mid table team is a quote that belongs in the 'knee jerk' thread.

      We may bring another midfielder in before the deadline. Lets wait and see. But i for one would be more than happy for Shelvey to progress through. Who knows, maybe that is why Aquilani was allowed to go.
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      Reply #43: Aug 27, 2010 03:08:29 pm
      Was just thinking of a few names that we could possibly afford at around 15M. That's considering if the Masch's money is completely reinvested! Gago, Parker, Defour all come into my mind.

      Perhaps we could make a cheeky bid for Sneijder, since he so wants to play with Kuyt! ;D

      I like defour. At least we have some time now to get someone in. I'd like Ashley Young. But maybe our priorities are a striker and a left back. What the hell is happening with insua?

      Maybe we could return the favor to inter and offer 6m plus Lucas for Sneijder?
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      Reply #44: Aug 27, 2010 03:19:24 pm
      I'd love us to sign De Rossi, Lassana Diarra, Sissoko or Alonso ;)

      I heard that this Alonso lad is quite good
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      Reply #45: Aug 27, 2010 03:23:16 pm
      Banega and Defour. That would do me. . . But we all know where the money is going
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      Reply #46: Aug 27, 2010 03:23:46 pm
      I heard that this Alonso lad is quite good

      Not as good as Gareth Barry according the our last manager. Sissoko was not bad either. Really miss Alonso, good lad and a great player!
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      Reply #47: Aug 27, 2010 03:24:45 pm
      Not as good as Gareth Barry according the our last manager. Sissoko was not bad either. Really miss Alonso, good lad and a great player!

      Your posts are generally quite negative towards Rafa, any reason?
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      Reply #48: Aug 27, 2010 03:28:08 pm
      Your posts are generally quite negative towards Rafa, any reason?

      No reason in particular mate. I like Rafa, he did a good job for us. Remember were we were when he took over! 2 CL finals, 1 win, FA CUP, CL semi, and 2 x QF in CL. Bought Pepe, Alonso, Masch, Agger, Torres. Not bad when you look back is it? Was just saying with regard to Alonso thats all. Huge mistake in my eyes letting him go. Not many talented players like him about and Barry is nowhere near him!
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      Reply #49: Aug 27, 2010 03:30:21 pm
      No reason in particular mate. I like Rafa, he did a good job for us. Remember were we were when he took over! 2 CL finals, 1 win, FA CUP, CL semi, and 2 x QF in CL. Bought Pepe, Alonso, Masch, Agger, Torres. Not bad when you look back is it? Was just saying with regard to Alonso thats all. Huge mistake in my eyes letting him go. Not many talented players like him about and Barry is nowhere near him!

      Couldnt agree more - poor man management.


      Hopefully Roy will get someone new in midfield, we need someone who can unlock defences with 40-50 yard passes...
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      Reply #50: Aug 27, 2010 03:31:01 pm
      In terms of players that can play CM we have this atm right?:

      Gerrard
      Cole
      Lucas
      Poulsen
      Spearing
      Shelvey
      Pacheco
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      Reply #51: Aug 27, 2010 03:35:07 pm
      Said it a while back, the kind of midfielder I'd like to go for is Mark Noble. I know he was very quiet last year but I'd still like to see us go for him or his Hammers team mate Jack Collinson.

      The other Hammer we're linked with, Parker, is decent but West Ham have put a hands off warning on him. Any club after him will be forced to spend a sh*t load more than he's worth and we're in no position to be spending huge odds on OK players.

      Also, like the look of Jordan Henderson from Sunderland.

      One name who I could throw in the hat is Jimmy Bullard. Hull look desperate to get rid of him, he's an experienced player who takes a decent set piece. Again, probably be more a squad player but gives us an extra player.
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      Reply #52: Aug 27, 2010 03:35:15 pm
      Couldnt agree more - poor man management.



      You just summed up one of my biggest problems with benitez, and Alonso was not the only victim with regard to this. But I remember benitez for the good times, and there were plenty of them, especially in europe which is his biggest strength.  I wish him well at Inter!
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      Reply #53: Aug 27, 2010 03:37:32 pm
      Said it a while back, the kind of midfielder I'd like to go for is Mark Noble. I know he was very quiet last year but I'd still like to see us go for him or his Hammers team mate Jack Collinson.

      The other Hammer we're linked with, Parker, is decent but West Ham have put a hands off warning on him. Any club after him will be forced to spend a sh*t load more than he's worth and we're in no position to be spending huge odds on OK players.

      Also, like the look of Jordan Henderson from Sunderland.

      One name who I could throw in the hat is Jimmy Bullard. Hull look desperate to get rid of him, he's an experienced player who takes a decent set piece. Again, probably be more a squad player but gives us an extra player.

      Agree with Collinson Billy mate. As you say, Parker will cost a bomb. Jimmy Bullard??? Not for me. Michael Johnson at citeh is a good midfielder. No chance of him getting a game there.
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      Reply #54: Aug 27, 2010 03:40:26 pm
      Marcos Senna might be available on the cheap?
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      Re: Lack Of Depth In Central Midfield
      Reply #55: Aug 27, 2010 03:44:56 pm
      Agree with Collinson Billy mate. As you say, Parker will cost a bomb. Jimmy Bullard??? Not for me. Michael Johnson at citeh is a good midfielder. No chance of him getting a game there.

      Not sure on Johnson mate, looked good when he broke through but the injuries have really halted his progress. Not sure how he's getting on these days. But if he is at the same sort of level he was before the injuries then I wouldn't say no if the price was right.

      And if we're to drop a division like we did with Shelvey, then I wouldn't say no to Adam Lallana of Southampton. Another up coming star in my eyes.
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      Re: Lack Of Depth In Central Midfield
      Reply #56: Aug 27, 2010 04:01:43 pm
      Michael Johnson looks like a whale. Got so fat and in no way ready to play in a Championship side, let alone our side.

      Noble is a great shout. I really like him as a player.

      Banega and Defour have more chance of signing for Tranmere than us right now. Roy doesn't like his midfielders to have any creativity.
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      Reply #57: Aug 27, 2010 04:51:45 pm
      Michael Johnson looks like a whale. Got so fat and in no way ready to play in a Championship side, let alone our side.

      Noble is a great shout. I really like him as a player.

      Banega and Defour have more chance of signing for Tranmere than us right now. Roy doesn't like his midfielders to have any creativity.

      He must have changed alot from the last time I saw him then which admittedly was not that recent. I was obviously misguided here. Get off Roy's back!
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      Reply #58: Aug 27, 2010 04:53:51 pm
      Not sure on Johnson mate, looked good when he broke through but the injuries have really halted his progress. Not sure how he's getting on these days. But if he is at the same sort of level he was before the injuries then I wouldn't say no if the price was right.

      And if we're to drop a division like we did with Shelvey, then I wouldn't say no to Adam Lallana of Southampton. Another up coming star in my eyes.

      Not seen anything of Lallana Billy mate. Will keep an eye out for him. I usually watch Southampton. When we go cruising we go from there so i have this thing now where I watch them if they are on Tv.

      As you say with Johnson, he looked good when he broke through but obviously for one reason or another has not progressed since!
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      Reply #59: Aug 27, 2010 05:06:25 pm
      We really should get Banega and Defour.  And we need a striker, another winger and another leftback to be competitive for Top 4. 

      If most of the above could not happen, we should have kept all the players we could. £18M is not enough to buy two quality players - £18M plus Hleb and Caceras I could have stomached.

      Everything now depends on the sale of the club.  EVERYTHING. 

      BUT WHAT SADDENS ME IS THAT THERE SEEMS TO BE NO URGENCY ABOUT THE SALE.  THE PUBLIC STATEMENT LAST WEEK WAS VERY NONCHALANT "WE ARE CONSIDERING BIDS".... OK THEN, BUT SURELY THERE HAS TO BE A TIMESCALE IN MIND?
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      Reply #60: Aug 27, 2010 05:26:36 pm
      I think one the reasons we finished 2nd was due to Masch and Alonso, it was the best centre midfield pairing in Europe, a midfield of Poulsen and Lucas is laughable beside it.

      Ya and I believe don we are on our way to becoming a midtable team, signing a journeyman in Poulsen and targetting another journeyman like Konchesky. No money to spend our big players wanting to leave of course we are becoming a midtable team.
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      Reply #61: Aug 28, 2010 01:10:45 am
      Its a sad state of affairs at the moment in the Midfield department. Just a few years ago we were spoiled for choices with Xabi, Steve, Mash, Sisoko but look at us now, a pathetic midfield. Although others might disagree i don't consider cole to be world class, I mean he is good but not world class. Anyway if Steve plays in a deeper role, i don't think he will get as many goals as he used to precisely because he is further away from goal and secondly, because as he is the most dangerous player in the midfield area he will be marked out. Moreover, our lack of world class players means that guys like torres will be marked out to death. Therefore, where do we get the goals? its a big question. I feel that in 2008 we were so successful because the oppositions didn't frankly know who to mark out because everybody was dangerous. Imagine we used to see oppositions hustle Xabi everywhere but last year and even this season teams are beginning to target only our big players. THATS SAD. and the F***ing yanks are responsible for this sh*t.
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      Re: Lack Of Depth In Central Midfield
      Reply #62: Aug 28, 2010 01:15:07 am
      I don't think anyone on here considers Cole as world class either.  At best some think he is a great player - I would suspect the majority would think he was good/capable of a great game here or there.

      Alonso and a settled Mascherano are amongst the best in the world in their respective roles.

      There is no doubt that our midfield, no matter who we get this summer, will be far weaker than it was last year and far far weaker than the season before that.

      All we can hope is our defence play better than they did last year and our attack gets some more consistency.
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      Reply #63: Aug 28, 2010 01:29:20 am
      Quote
      Liverpool midfielder Alberto Aquilani has revealed he hopes to win a permanent deal at Juventus after joining the club on loan.

      Aquilani has returned to Italy on a tempoary basis after a disappointing debut season with the Reds last term.

      The former Roma midfielder joined Juve on a season-long loan earlier this week with Juventus holding the option to make the move permanent next summer.

      Aquilani admits he enjoyed last season at Anfield, but hopes to do enough to secure a long-term stay in Turin.

      "England was a great experience, but I am here to stay," said Aquilani.
      Just thought Id throw that in there to add to the depression lads, if it hasnt already been posted.
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      Reply #64: Aug 28, 2010 01:38:39 am
      Does this mean Aquilani's number 4 is up for grabs?
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      Reply #65: Aug 28, 2010 01:44:07 am
      Does this mean Aquilani's number 4 is up for grabs?

      Yes but you'll have to fight me for it ;)

      If the reports about Raul Meireles are to be believed i'd imagine he'd take that shirt number.

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      Reply #66: Aug 28, 2010 02:56:51 am
      Gerrard
      Meireles
      Poulsen
      Lucas?
      Spearing
      Shelvey

      Any truth to the rumours that Lucas wants to leave as his family havent settled (sounded completely absurd after the Masch saga but nothing would surprise me any more)?:

      http://www.breakingfootballnews.com/english-premier-league/lucas-leiva-asks-to-leave-liverpool-due-to-family-unable-to-settle-on-merseyside/7797

      http://www.breakingfootballnews.com/english-premier-league/liverpool-slap-8m-price-tag-on-lucas-leiva-as-inter-milan-show-interest/4507


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      Reply #67: Aug 28, 2010 08:11:28 am
      We had the best midfield in the world...

      with Xavi Alonso, Momo Sissoko, Gerrard and Mascherano...ooo...oooo. .ooo

      Hmm...how times change  :(
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      Reply #68: Aug 28, 2010 09:11:37 am
      Young Shelvey said he was hoping to play at least 20 games this season for the first team, maybe he will after all!!!
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      Reply #69: Aug 28, 2010 09:16:22 am
      Young Shelvey said he was hoping to play at least 20 games this season for the first team, maybe he will after all!!!

      Why not, he looks like he can pass the ball with both feet...would rather take a gamble on him than some of the players we've been linked with.
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      Reply #70: Aug 28, 2010 09:16:43 am
      Young Shelvey said he was hoping to play at least 20 games this season for the first team, maybe he will after all!!!

      as this rate we will end up with a squad of 11 plus the manager.
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      Reply #71: Aug 28, 2010 02:21:41 pm
      Oh well, maybe we can add Raul Meireles to our ' lack of depth ' in central midfield.
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      Reply #72: Aug 28, 2010 02:23:03 pm
      I think one the reasons we finished 2nd was due to Masch and Alonso, it was the best centre midfield pairing in Europe, a midfield of Poulsen and Lucas is laughable beside it.

      Ya and I believe don we are on our way to becoming a midtable team, signing a journeyman in Poulsen and targetting another journeyman like Konchesky. No money to spend our big players wanting to leave of course we are becoming a midtable team.

      Raul Meireles ..... another journeyman then eh?
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      Reply #73: Aug 28, 2010 02:37:19 pm
      Oh well, maybe we can add Raul Meireles to our ' lack of depth ' in central midfield.
      Raul Meireles ..... another journeyman then eh?

      Relax young fella, you'll end up messing your trunks.

      Raul Meireles will, most certainly, do more than replace Masch (in my opinion). It is debatable if one out one in constitutes adding to the depth tho'. Great news none the less. :nod:

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      Reply #74: Aug 28, 2010 02:45:55 pm
      Relax young fella, you'll end up messing your trunks.

      Raul Meireles will, most certainly, do more than replace Masch (in my opinion). It is debatable if one out one in constitutes adding to the depth tho'. Great news none the less. :nod:



      Was made up when I got in from work today mate! Was optimistic at the start of the season. I am an optimist ;D. Looking forward to the season ahead!
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      Reply #75: Aug 28, 2010 03:04:30 pm
      Looking at the whole midfield, this years side is no worse than last years really, in fact it may even be stronger.
      I'm not an optimist, just look at it objectively:

      - Mascherano has gone, making us much significantly weaker defensively against good teams

      = Cole has replaced Yossi, that is like for like (plus he is younger, English and we get £6 million)
      = Aqualani is gone, but he was injured most of last season anyway so we are no weaker there
      = Riera is gone, but he was crap and didn't play so no loss again

      =/+ Gerrard is still there, if he stays fit, that is a bonus from last year.
      =/+ We have Maxi, fitter and more adjusted to the PL for the whole season

      + Jovanovic
      + Meireles
      + Poulsen, he may be 30, but he could do a job for us, especially as cover
      + Masch being gone means we can have a more attacking line-up against weaker teams
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      Reply #76: Aug 28, 2010 03:19:47 pm
      To me the fact remains that getting Poulsen while we still had Masch and Lucas, and at the same time letting Aquilani go was very bad policy. In a way we could be lucky that Masch is going now because in return we're getting a more creative player in Meireles, which we need. Masch is the best defensive midfielder we have, but we don't need 3 defensive midfielders. So if Roy got Poulsen, and at the same time he wanted Masch to stay as he claims, we would've had serious creativity issues in our midfield. I'm very happy with Meireles, but it doesn't make me understand our transfer policy any more, or approve of it. Meireles should've came to replace Aquilani in the first place.
      « Last Edit: Aug 28, 2010 03:31:09 pm by Dexter »
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      Re: Lack Of Depth In Central Midfield
      Reply #77: Aug 28, 2010 05:32:33 pm
      Meireles will be replacing Masch. Is Meireles a good player I'd say ya is he a very good player I'd say ya, is he better than Masch I'd say no to that. Poulsen in my opinion like Konchesky is a journeyman no need to take it personal.

       Jaysus Don you need to relax the way your going on you'd think we were signing Messi.
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      Reply #78: Aug 28, 2010 05:45:16 pm
      No reason in particular mate. I like Rafa, he did a good job for us. Remember were we were when he took over! 2 CL finals, 1 win, FA CUP, CL semi, and 2 x QF in CL. Bought Pepe, Alonso, Masch, Agger, Torres. Not bad when you look back is it? Was just saying with regard to Alonso thats all. Huge mistake in my eyes letting him go. Not many talented players like him about and Barry is nowhere near him!


      I would have to agree with this tbh. Clearly, Rafa is already a legend and I hope someday he comes back to manage us again when the parasites have left the club. But that Barry saga wasn't one of Rafa's greatest moments :)
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      Reply #79: Aug 28, 2010 07:10:56 pm
      Meireles coming is very good news but for me he's Aquilani's replacement. Today I read somewhere we were interested in lass diarra and that is also very good news if true. My suggestion for our central midfield would be:
      SELL Masch for 19M and Lucas for 8M and
      BUY Meireles for 10M and L.Diarra for 9M. That leaves us with 8M free to spend in a striker and 4 good options in midfield: Stevie, Meireles, L.Diarra and Poulsen with youngsters Shelvey and Spearing also competing for a place. We could then play Meireles and Diarra in the middle, Stevie in the second striker role and Cole on the wing.
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      Reply #80: Aug 28, 2010 07:42:35 pm
      F**k me the sooner we get in any midfielder  the better, reports are saying that Lucas and Poulsen are starting tom, they are as bad a midfield pairing as I've seen together in my 25 years supporting the club, neither of them has an attacking bone in there body and against West Brom at home that is just not good enough.
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      Reply #81: Aug 28, 2010 08:00:34 pm
      F**k me the sooner we get in any midfielder  the better, reports are saying that Lucas and Poulsen are starting tom, they are as bad a midfield pairing as I've seen together in my 25 years supporting the club, neither of them has an attacking bone in there body and against West Brom at home that is just not good enough.

      You obviously did not see Stewart and Kozma then as well as Lucas and Aurelio.
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      Reply #82: Aug 28, 2010 08:07:37 pm
      Don't worry I saw Lucas and Aurelio and if you check on the Fiorentina thread for last season you'll see I said it was the worst midfield performance I've ever seen from a Liverpool midfield.

      Kozma and Stewart never started a league match together you keep using them as an example I don't know why. I think Kozma only played 3 or 4 times for the club. By the way Your not Hodgson agent are you.
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      Reply #83: Aug 28, 2010 08:30:23 pm
      Don't worry I saw Lucas and Aurelio and if you check on the Fiorentina thread for last season you'll see I said it was the worst midfield performance I've ever seen from a Liverpool midfield.

      Kozma and Stewart never started a league match together you keep using them as an example I don't know why. I think Kozma only played 3 or 4 times for the club. By the way Your not Hodgson agent are you.

      Hodgson's agent? Nahhh mate Im his cheerleader on here, supporting him. Someone has to be. Fair play with Stewart and Kozma. Was stating that our midfield 'depth ' could be alot worse. I remember watching Kozma in a cup game...my god he was bad. As for the 'enforcer' Stewart. I think he was eating his wage packet. Fat, slow and totally useless would be being flattering to him!
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      Reply #84: Aug 28, 2010 08:35:31 pm
      Stewart was one of Souness biggest mistakes I think we paid £2.3 million for him from Spurs, a massive amount at the time for a midfielder and he flopped massively and especially when you think Souness let Beardsley and Houghton go at the time.

      I just think there is no balance in a midfield of Lucas and Poulsen, they are extremely similar players and offer very little going forward. I agree with a lot of posters it is all sideways and backwards with them. That is my opinion.
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      Reply #85: Aug 28, 2010 08:54:02 pm
      Stewart was one of Souness biggest mistakes I think we paid £2.3 million for him from Spurs, a massive amount at the time for a midfielder and he flopped massively and especially when you think Souness let Beardsley and Houghton go at the time.

      I just think there is no balance in a midfield of Lucas and Poulsen, they are extremely similar players and offer very little going forward. I agree with a lot of posters it is all sideways and backwards with them. That is my opinion.

      Fair enough mate. I know that Lucas and Poulsen is not going to be that productive. My point is that it was the same last season really. Hopefully when Joe is back we can put Stevie back in there and maybe even pair him up with Raul M at some point? Then we would still have Joe, babel, Maxi, Jov, Pacheco etc to play behind Torres.

      Ever the optimist here and reason for that is that i got really tired of the negativity last season.

      Looking forward to it tomorrow!
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      Reply #86: Aug 29, 2010 02:53:43 am
      Apparently, Mascherano's shoes are too big; We have acquired Poulsen, and Meireles with Diarra on the plate. Lucas, Cole & Gerrard will have to do for attacking midfielders.
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      Re: Lack Of Depth In Central Midfield
      Reply #87: Aug 29, 2010 03:07:57 am
      Meireles has more creativity than Lucas solodee, Meireles is more an Alonso type player than a Masch type DM, he's a box to box midfielder.
      « Last Edit: Aug 29, 2010 03:14:26 am by Dexter »
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      Re: Lack Of Depth In Central Midfield
      Reply #88: Aug 29, 2010 03:25:05 am
      Dunno much about Meireles. Never seen him play.
      But I'd rather prefer him in midfield than the pair of Lucas and Poulsen.
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      Reply #89: Aug 29, 2010 04:11:55 am
      Meireles has more creativity than Lucas solodee, Meireles is more an Alonso type player than a Masch type DM, he's a box to box midfielder.

      Yes he is a good ball distributor.

      That is why we are not lacking in depth in the midfield. Imagine a Gerrard/Meireles midfield with Ola and Torres upfront? What we need badly is Ola Tolvonen.
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      Re: Lack Of Depth In Central Midfield
      Reply #90: Aug 29, 2010 05:58:53 am
      maybe we could ask Juventus to loan us Aquilani, that might be a possible solution to the attacking midfield question.
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      Reply #91: Aug 29, 2010 09:31:42 am
      maybe we could ask Juventus to loan us Aquilani, that might be a possible solution to the attacking midfield question.

      It was a good decision to send him on a loan before selling him because when he makes regular first team appearances, he will raise his worth and also if he proves to be good enough he can come back to the club.
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      Reply #92: Aug 29, 2010 09:34:22 am

      He'll not be back mate, Juve have first option to buy.
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      Reply #93: Aug 29, 2010 11:03:53 am
      He'll not be back mate, Juve have first option to buy.

      Plus the price is already set.

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