Former Liverpool star slams 'diabolical' Torres

Former Liverpool star slams 'diabolical' Torres

Liverpool striker Fernando Torres  has been branded "diabolical" and accused of lacking the desire to perform at the top level by former Anfield hero Jamie Redknapp.

Torres, who has struggled for form since suffering an adductor injury last season, looked off the pace during Liverpool's 0-0 draw with Birmingham at St Andrews and struggled to make an impact against centre-backs Roger Johnson and Scott Dann.

The Spain international has been widely criticised since the World Cup and Redknapp is the latest expert to lay into Torres.

"Fans will suffer to a certain extent when you give the ball away, but they won't suffer a lack of effort," Redknapp said. "Out there for 45 minutes today he (Torres) has been terrible. He hasn't got hold of the ball, he hasn't chased, he's got frustrated, he could have been booked, he's been diabolical.

"I'm his biggest fan, and of course you have to give Johnson and Dann credit, but he's shown no appetite for the game. He's looked frustrated, sloppy, lethargic. I know people talk about his rustiness, but he looked fed-up."

Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson leapt to the defence of Torres - who scored the winner against West Bromwich Albion last month with his only goal of the season - and insisted the striker will get "better and better."

"Fernando came into the centre on a few occasions and, when he did that, he caused havoc," Hodgson said. "You've got to give the back four of Birmingham credit. They worked very hard to contain him and pressurise him.

"But he is looking much fitter with every game and I thought he looked dangerous and I thought, the longer the game went, the stronger he became. I think he is working hard for the team. He is a constant thorn in the side of defenders.

"We know he lacks match training. He missed matches at the end of last year and during the World Cup. But I'm not at all concerned about Fernando Torres. He will get better and better."

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To a certain extent, it's true. Torres needs to take a good look at himself. He really looks like he's bored of playing already. It's not only this season as he tended to show his frustration last season as well. I can't blame him entirely because he gets kicked (has to put up with that as he's the best forward in the world) around pretty often and he doesn't have that services he's been getting back in his first two seasons at Anfield.

I just miss the old Torres of 2007/2008!

Expert? Ha. Funny stuff that. Isolated for large parts of the game. Hardly his fault given our non creative midfield and the inability of our wide players to. . Er. . Play wide. Having seen the game I would rather start Dani and Eccleston as two of the three behind Nando, with Stevie and Raul deep. Have it for the United game before negativity shackles us for another season

Translation - Turdslow wants to sell Torres. Pr agencies have been instructed to get the usual lackeys working on it.


PS I think maybe we should start a letter writing campaign. To the key heroes at the club - Nando, Pepe etc
Just saying "we know there's scum and idiots at the club, we promise we'll do everything possible with xyz to get the tossers out to have a football club for u again" etc etc

F**k off!

Does your Sky Sports contract include being a little hypocritical rat?  We've only played 4 games! When was Redknapp ever fit?  And when he came back he barely did anything at all! Nice little wage with a decent bird on his arm.  How old did you retire Jamie? 32?

I'll be giving Nando another 2 - 3 games to sort himself out, but if anything, Redknapp has got way too ahead of himself far too soon.

He was dire and did look dis-interested but because of his past and what he's done for the club I give him the benefit of the doubt.

But if he performs like that against United on Sunday Redknapps words will be justified.

Aquilani as playmaker for Nando, or ... no-one as playmaker. But the Paycheque Poodle would rather assetstrip our "overstaffed" squad.

Expert? Ha. Funny stuff that. Isolated for large parts of the game. Hardly his fault given our non creative midfield and the inability of our wide players to. . Er. . Play wide. Having seen the game I would rather start Dani and Eccleston as two of the three behind Nando, with Stevie and Raul deep. Have it for the United game before negativity shackles us for another season

F***ing boss post mate, exactly what I would like us to do...

Since Jamie Redcrapp left LFC all he does is slate us - Bitter me thinks

Jamie the Shill. Thats what his mate "breathe of fresh air"(Redcrapp's words) Hodgson does!
He also said that "torres and gerrard would definitely have left if it wasnt for Hodgson taking over". He's a complete snake of a "man".

Because he never got as wealthy as say Beckham, he's selling his soul to become a vile lie merchant.

Can't blame him. If be fed up of never, ever getting decent support or service. He should have to do it all on his own.

former Anfield hero Jamie Redknapp.

Just back to full fitness. This was like his first match of the season. Full stop and let me tell you you've got millions of people out there than good old Jamie. F**k him c**t

To be honest Redknapp's comments are even worth commenting on. I'm surprised anyone noticed what he said !!!!!!!!!

Aww i used to like Jamie!

I can see where he is coming from- but he has worded it wrong!
Nando looked frustrated & fed up- but i dont blame him, he need the right men behind him to do what he does best- and that is up to Roy to choose them!

Jamie has the brain of a jellyfish.

My thoughts exactly.

So he received next to no service yesterday, was isolated for large parts of the game, and had to deal with Birmingham who were marking him with 3 defenders. He's had got no space at all. Add to that the lack of support from the midfield, the wide players, he's got nothing to work with.

As far as I'm concerned I thought he was really trying his best yesterday. He isn't at the level he wants to be, but continue staying fit, and with our strongest side, with 9 other outfield players providing the adequate support we'll soon see the Torres we want to see.

As of now Jamie is just chatting sh*t out of his arse to make a mountain out of a molehill.

Diabolical sums up Redcrap quite well, go back to ass licking keys.

F**k off Rednapp,you were never the player Nando is, tw*t.

Until Torres gets the service, then he'll always flatter to deceive.

Shut it Redknapp.
Remember who used to pay you?



Talking absolute sh*te again.

I think we'll see a totally different squad at OT, not by selection but by wanting to win. Our passing games not too shabby and i think the lads will step up a gear. There's a lot of negativity around us at the mo (understandably) and negativity breeds negativity in a 'workplace'. It'll all fade soon.

Nando understands what a win at OT means and he has the need to win and we will.

As regards Redknapp, he sold his soul to Sky and utters the words that he thinks his paymasters want. Personally i can ignore them as just that, words.

Once again, the wrong team was picked. Lucas, as usual did sweet FA and it really does mystify me as to why he seems to be able to keep a regular place when Babel doesn't even get 10 minutes. Jovanovic, as usual has an inability to keep to the wing. He works hard and has some pace, but if he keeps cutting in, he may as well not bother.Glen Johnson as usual shows how inept he really is as a defender. He's ok going forward at times (not yesterday though, he was USELESS), but jesus, let's get a real defender in there. We should have started with Gerrard and Mireles in the middle and Babel supporting Torres. If this had been the chosen team, I guarantee we would have all 3 points. At least Carra and Pepe were reliable as usual...

Jamie who?

Arghhh Jamie you're such an unconstructive tool.

I think it was during this seasons game against Arsenal where he referred to himself as a neutral...

He should just be banned from this forum.

I thought he was ordinary but so was everyone else in a Red shirt out on the pitch. Pepe wore grey. 

He just looked uninterested and I don't blame him with the service he didn't get, but when he did get the ball, apart from that one mazey run and tame shot at the keeper, he either lost it or fluffed it. Having said that I can see him coming out and tearing another new one for Vidic and Ferdinand on Sunday.

The lad is awesome on his day and I just hope the start of his and our season is on Sunday.

Im sorry but as much as this little M&S suit flogging cockney c*nt annoys me, he does have a point.

Love Nando to bits but when things dont go his way, he kind of does sulk.

He's such a c**t. Can't stand the man. Or his dad. Can't stand the family.

Plus, I can't take seriously a guy that did that advert for Thomas Cook.

Infact, he'd make my top 10 'want to punch' list.

Nando didn't set the world on fire yesterday, but the service to him from Lucas and Poulsen was dire. When Raul came on things started to spark a bit, just wish he'd started the game. Nando needs some help out there, he was man-marked for the entire game.

Exactly sonic, where was the midfield or does Redknapp believe he can retrieve balls from the defence, that's all we are seeing just now we miss the midfield out and turn one helluva striker and use him like a cart horse. This time last year with more or less the same team, same formation but used differently we were in the top few with a huge goals for (before the injury's hit us hard). Keep this up Roy and most will lose their patience by Christmas.

They all need to take a look at themselves only Cara and Pepe came out of the game with any credit.

If Nando kept running back to our 18 yard area to pick the ball up, we'd be moaning as he's not up front, give him the service and he'll score. Dump this ultra defensive attitude.

Torres didn't get much service, but was poor yesterday, messed up two good chances, looked lethargic, tired, frustrated at himself.  That said, Roy was entirely right, he is an amazin gplayer who is recovering full fitness, give him time, he'll come good soon enough - starting on Sunday please

We are quite attack oriented at home and cautious away. I think that will be the mantra until we get some stability and confidence. So we'll be great on Thursday going forward but expect a very cautious team on Sun irrespective that its Manure or West Brom

F***ing hell jamie deadcrap has a pop at fernando torres ,shut up you bellend your not fit to comment on a player of this class.now F**k off,knobhead

Hang on, I agree that Jamie is a nobshite at times but to be honest, I was tempted to post something similar myself.
When Nando is on fire in a few games time, don't come back here slating me for having no faith in him because what I'm talking about it his performance against Birmingham.
When Torres is not 'up for it', he is a very frustrating player to watch and will drop to the ground as soon as an opponent gets near to him. Of course, if he creates one piece of magic, all is forgiven but I for one am not happy with the way he's playing at the minute and (for once) agree with Redknapp that he needs to knuckle down and fight.
Torres is an incredible talent but not beyond criticism.

In reply to the thread title, I wouldn't mind slamming your bird Jamie, right up the wrong un.

Thought Nando AND Stevie looked p*****d off for most of the game.My feelings are that both were a bit dissapointed with the selected team.
Its quite obvious that we lacked creativity leading to the said performances.
Personally I can't blame JR for his criticism,he said it how I saw it too.

In reply to the thread title, I wouldn't mind slamming your bird Jamie, right up the wrong un.

Gee, a mediocre manager can't get the best out of world class players.  Who would have thought it, oh yeah that's right me, half of this forum, anybody who didn't lap up the press PR bullshit, pretty much anyone who can think for themselves really.  Nothing against Hodgson, but he barely escaped a players revolt at Fulham, he's never worked with any world class players and it's now just a case of sitting back and waiting until everybody else realises that he's leaps and bounds out of his league, I give it a few more weeks.  You made your bed anti-Rafa crowd, now lie in it.

Come October 6th when everything is sorted in the boardroom, watch the confidence start to come back.  It must be hard for all the players, knowing that the club is perously close to the abys. 

Are you F***ing serious Redknapp with the midfield Hodgson picked never mind being the best striker in the Premiership you would have had to be one of the best strikers of all time to do anything yesterday.

Every F***ing pass he got was up around his head. But F***ing typical by Sky trying to take the attention away from Hodgson obvious failings yesterday.

In reply to the thread title, I wouldn't mind slamming your bird Jamie, right up the wrong un.

I'd like Purple Aki to slam *Jamie*  Redcrapp up the wrong un. Except I'm sure the smarmy little brown-nose would actually love the experience.

Jamie Redknapp is 'literally' a c**t

Don't know why people are slating him - what else do you expect from the c**t?

We should be used to this backstabbing arsehole by now, and not bother rising to the bait he keeps throwing out - it just guarantees him more work as a "expert pundit"

Ignore the tw*t and eventually, he'll go away - probably to sort out a couple of bungs for his Da.

He's such a c**t. Can't stand the man. Or his dad. Can't stand the family.

Plus, I can't take seriously a guy that did that advert for Thomas Cook.

Infact, he'd make my top 10 'want to punch' list.
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Ha ha your dead right mate

The same paper has an article on Kennys book. Its an extract about Hillsborough. Far more interesting than Jamie's 'thoughts'

I'd like Purple Aki to slam *Jamie*  Redcrapp up the wrong un. Except I'm sure the smarmy little brown-nose would actually love the experience.

He tried to chat me up in the Magistrates court foyer about 23 years ago, he asked me where i drank and i said The Eagle & Child and he said "might see you there". He's still alive so i'm guessin he never did. Dirty b***ard. I never drank in the Eagle but its the fastest I've ever thought and the best place i could think to send him. Still unbeaten in the ring ain't i.

Sayin that he'd love pretty boy Jamie. 

Jamie's right!! All those inch perfect through balls played to him by LUCAS AND POLSON,and he still couldn't score!

Shut up Jamie.

He tried to chat me up in the Magistrates court foyer about 23 years ago, he asked me where I drank and I said The Eagle & Child and he said "might see you there". He's still alive so I'm guessin he never did. Dirty B***ard. I never drank in the Eagle but its the fastest I've ever thought and the best place I could think to send him. Still unbeaten in the ring ain't I.

Sayin that he'd love pretty boy Jamie.  

   There's a few people who's addy I'd like to give to PA..       
   

Jamie's talks some drivel but he did have a point Torres didn't look to interested yesterday, allthough if he had a little bit of service from the so called midfield he may have shown a little more interest

Gee, a mediocre manager can't get the best out of world class players.  Who would have thought it, oh yeah that's right me, half of this forum, anybody who didn't lap up the press PR bullshit, pretty much anyone who can think for themselves really.  Nothing against Hodgson, but he barely escaped a players revolt at Fulham, he's never worked with any world class players and it's now just a case of sitting back and waiting until everybody else realises that he's leaps and bounds out of his league, I give it a few more weeks.  You made your bed anti-Rafa crowd, now lie in it.

It reallt wouldnt surprise me if Woy the Poodle was out by Xmas - even if the scum refinanced.
He makes Roy Evans look gifted.
And as for Jamie Pantscrapp, he makes Andy Gay look pro-Liverpool.

F***ing hell, nice one Jamie. Expert my arse.

I agree that Torres looked flat, but when he is still trying to find his best form and then he is being eaten up by the defense the whole game with very little help from the rest of the team, i can understand his frustration. The whole team bar a couple players was sh*t yesterday, singling out Torres is a bit silly.

Jamie's talks some drivel but he did have a point Torres didn't look to interested yesterday, allthough if he had a little bit of service from the so called midfield he may have shone a little more interest

FT should;ve had an operation and much more rest last season. Our paper thin squad was ANOTHER reason we didnt get 4th last yr. But there was simply no cover for him, so he was being worked like an old nag, instead of gifted thoroughbred.

The lack of depth upfront is a complete outrage. FT hasnt had a proper rest for 2yrs is it?
With modern training methods, this is just a stupid way to handle a top player.

I also think that Woy of the Also-rans is pissing snr players off in training.
Rafa spoke their language( and I dont mean Spanish ). I mean skills, game intelligence and tactical adeptness. Hodgson is well and truly out of his depth.

The guy's more Neil Warnock, than Champions Lge callibre.

We all know he's still not fully fit yet, but he has already reaffirmed his interest in playing for Liverpool and pushing forward and that's good enough for me.  I think Torres may have just been frustrated with the Brum defence who didn't give him any time on the ball whatsoever, I also think that everyone comes to expect so much of this one player when we should be looking at everyone else in the team too,  Just wait until he starts scoring against United, Jamie will eat his words and wish he never said out!

Vamos Torres we believe in you even if sicknote don't!

I don't think I know a pundit who literally talks as much nonsense as Redknapp.

FT should;ve had an operation and much more rest last season. Our paper thin squad was ANOTHER reason we didnt get 4th last yr. But there was simply no cover for him, so he was being worked like an old nag, instead of gifted thoroughbred.

The lack of depth upfront is a complete outrage. FT hasnt had a proper rest for 2yrs is it?
With modern training methods, this is just a stupid way to handle a top player.

I also think that Woy of the Also-rans is pissing snr players off in training.
Rafa spoke their language( and I dont mean Spanish ). I mean skills, game intelligence and tactical adeptness. Hodgson is well and truly out of his depth.

The guy's more Neil Warnock, than Champions Lge callibre.

Give him chance to settle down lad, he will get the best out of the big names I have no doubt

Take That - Patience

Jamie shut the F**k up you f***in tw*t, what the F**k do you know? your getting as bad as that other other pr**k Andy f***in bitter Grey, here's a formula for you lads......

Jamie Redknapp=KUNT!!

As a true liverpool fan and a massive supporter of nando, i would never insult him in this way. It looked to me that keys fed him the bait and he took it hook line and sinker. If he had half a brain he would have seen that coming. Unfortunately he lacks intelligence and is easily goaded into making stupid comments. I am sure that the dark forces of sky sports gave him a big pat on the back for that one.
Nando relies on good service - he didn't get any - end of.

The service to Torres the last year or so has been quite simply shocking. That's what you get when you have players of a shockingly low standard of Lucas, no solid or good left winger and a erratic but ultimately worthy of his place Dirk Kuyt. Things thankfully will get better with the inclusions of Joe Cole and Mereiles in future first elevens. But at times Torres does look a bit disinterested and he didn't have a great game yesterday but no matter what mood he's in he's always likely to steal that winning goal. However Redknapps words will only inspire Fernando. But Redknapp deserves his spot in the Sky Sports studio alongside those other ignorant dicks who don't have a f**king clue what they're talking about - remember Roy Keane's spot on scathing attack on them - http://www.talkaloadofbull.com/en-us/news/85/england/2008/11/07/953733/roy-keane-wades-into-the-pundits ?)

Whatever about the lack of service up to Nando, there were times when he DID get the ball and did very little with it. His control and passing let him down a good few times. Understandable that he's gonna get frustrated with what's happnin behind him, and the fact that it's generally down to him or SG to pull results out of the bag. We know how good he is, he'll come good.
Would'nt say he was diabolical, think Jamie's goin a bit over the top - but he was no better than anyone else in a red shirt on the day.

Nando is off form. When he's on fire, it's like watching a god play footy. Redknapp was pretty ordinary when he was at the top of his game. Not really quallified to comment on anybody half decent. Always thought he was a smarmy little b***ard. Best get back to playing his wii and keep his pathetic thoughts to himself.

 .  You made your bed anti-Rafa crowd, now lie in it.
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There are people who thought Rafa was heading in the wrong direction towards the end of his reign, that didn't also see Woy as a saviour of any description.  I think Rafa had lost the plot at times, but that doesn't make me a believer in Roy Hodgesons ability to manage at the top. Why would you jump to that conclusion and tar every one with the same brush ? 

Coming from a guy that gave up football to rag his Mrs, stating Nando has a lack of appetite for the game is quite hypocritical.

We all known nandos not firing on all cylinders but constantly being the lone striker he has a lot of weight on his shoulders. Ofc he will pick up as the season goes on but he needs support and enough cutting edge chances for him to bury them and boost his confidence.
He didnt get any at Birminham as we were complete crap in the mid and never gave him a chance to run at the flanks. First time he did get through in the middle he was taken down and even though the team performance was crap was a pen in my mind.

Give him chance to settle down lad, he will get the best out of the big names I have no doubt

Take That - Patience

He's never worked with any big names. Let alone won anything anywhere outside of a stadium that doubles as an ice rink. It was all a sick private joke between the 2 scummy yanks, Broughton and that smarmy turd Purslow.

To be honest who can really blame him for looking fed up in that game? The midfield was utter crap and he had nothing. But we all know that no matter what Torres will more than make up for a bad performance when he hits form, as he showed last season when he started banging them in left, right and center.

http://www.skysports.com/skysportsnews/story/0,28679,19494_6374400,00.html

People please wait he is our Nando for god sake.

F**k off Jamie!

What gives you the right??

He's such a c**t. Can't stand the man. Or his dad. Can't stand the family.

Plus, I can't take seriously a guy that did that advert for Thomas Cook.

Infact, he'd make my top 10 'want to punch' list.

Redknapp gets paid for his opinions - you don't. Who's laughing now?

Seriously though, no matter what Redknapp says or does, NOTHING will make him look a bigger pr**k than he does whilst advertising those childish Wii consoles and their crappy games!

Fernando is a striker, if it's Ian Rush saying this then I might start to worry.

YNWA

A journo in the mirror or the star is having the same pop today

No better way to ram it down there throats then bang in a winner on Sunday our kid!!!

He has been a bit off colour since he had his locks chopped off. His missus isnt called Delilah by any chance is she?

If the manager lines-up the players properly, Torres will function well. Redknapp can go suck on a lemon.

                 Gerrard Miereles

         Babel                 Jovanovic

                 Cole
                        Torres

Redknapp and the injured birmingham striker were talking to please Sky.

He's very predictable is Jamie. Lets have it right, he was at the very forefront of the public persecution of our previous manager and was just as vocal when it came to our current press-appointed manager getting the job, so following Sunday's woeful performance he's hardly going to criticise the team on the whole is he, no, of course not, he targets the Spanish lad signed by our previous manager..

He's gone, Jamie - you got your way, you won...

Redknapp gets paid for his opinions - you don't. Who's laughing now?

Me, because I'm not a c**t.

Me, because I'm not a c**t.

Debatable Only kidding.

Just because he played for us, the media take his word as valid opinion as if he is some F***ing know it all. He's a trash talking c**t who i wish never F***ing played for us. He can go suck his dad off.

I'm so glad I don't have Sky anymore so I avoid a*******s like Redknapp.

Like most of the so called experts on TV and radio I don't take his opinions seriously as they usually don't know what they are talking about or have some other agenda when they make comments like this.

Ignore him!

People are acting like he has been dreadful for months? It's one game and I thought he was the reason we won the West Brom game....I just think this is over reaction of the media and them just trying to create a story out of nothing!

Out of all our players, Torres is the one that gets picked on?

What about Poulsen?

Out of all our players, Torres is the one that gets picked on?

What about Poulsen?

Because they all know that Nando is probably the best player in the Premier League in terms of ability and his lethal cutting edge can turn a game upside down be it from distance or ghosting past the whole defence. Over the last few years we have become more and more hated by neutrals and other clubs for some pathetic reason so they will look for the most successful player at the club in recent seasons and pick holes in him.

But let people slate Nando until the cows come home because we all know who will be having the last laugh.

Out of all our players, Torres is the one that gets picked on?

What about Poulsen?

Jamie's friend bought Poulsen, ofcourse.

He's very predictable is Jamie. Lets have it right, he was at the very forefront of the public persecution of our previous manager and was just as vocal when it came to our current press-appointed manager getting the job, so following Sunday's woeful performance he's hardly going to criticise the team on the whole is he, no, of course not, he targets the Spanish lad signed by our previous manager..

He's gone, Jamie - you got your way, you won...

One thing I'd like about fan ownership is maybe we could issue life bans from Anfield  to scumbags like Jamie Pantscrapp.

Fact is the team should be built around Torres, and set up to make sure he gets a good supply of the ball, not just long hoofs down field for him to compete for with 2 or 3 defenders.
Has Jamie forgot how the game is played?

Jamie Redknapp=pr**k

Fact is the team should be built around Torres, and set up to make sure he gets a good supply of the ball, not just long hoofs down field for him to compete for with 2 or 3 defenders.
Has Jamie forgot how the game is played?

Agreed and I think Hodgson also agrees. Now we have Meireles available and Cole back from suspension, Roy suddenly has far more options and I would hope he'll be able to start putting his ideas into place.
I know this isn't the Roy Hodgson thread but I think the reason he seems to be so similar in his tactics to Rafa may simply be that he was letting the players play in a familiar system to start with before gradually introducing new players / systems. It would make sense that whatever system he chooses, it would be focused towards key players such as Torres.

Agreed and I think Hodgson also agrees. Now we have Meireles available and Cole back from suspension, Roy suddenly has far more options and I would hope he'll be able to start putting his ideas into place.
I know this isn't the Roy Hodgson thread but I think the reason he seems to be so similar in his tactics to Rafa may simply be that he was letting the players play in a familiar system to start with before gradually introducing new players / systems. It would make sense that whatever system he chooses, it would be focused towards key players such as Torres.

Hope you're right mate!

 Jamie Redknapp was never a good footballer.He is a sh*t pundit always slating Liverpool.F**k of back to the beach,and try a course in acting dont be criticizing our players.

everytime redknapp opens his mouth, I wanna shove a grenade in it.I believe he does simply read off a sky autocue everytime he gets asked a question about liverpool.

torres was well below par, but there were a number of reasons (not being interested is not one of them).

fitness - he's not had enough games to regain it since his world cup injury

supply - the man was so reliant on gerrard's threaded balls. wide players would help. cole is an obvious one and I'd play kuyt rather then maxi. I can't remember the last time maxi crossed anything. merieles should help also. johnson or konchesky didnt get enough crosses in either, that will improve

not enough support - playing as lone striker when ure the best in the world is not easy. he had 2/3 defenders on him everytime he got the ball. either play stevie as a very advanced support or a second striker (of course, we dont have a second striker)

redknapp's point about not being interested or not trying hard enough is so wide off the mark.