NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

I disagree unless you have intimate knowledge of John Henry;s plans he is one burger away from joining Elvis. I really dont give a flying f**k about there baseball or Basketball interests what interests me since day one is what their exit strategy is and will they take all of their money out because at that time we are in the same boat as UTD unless a multi billionaire finds £3billion down his sofa.

Hmmmmm.....
What action did FSG just complete that defies your incessant screeching about "FSG taking all their money out" ?
Hint: 538mill

And since you self admit you don't have any ambition to examine FSG's pattern and history of sports ownership ("I don't give a flying f**k about facts of any kind"), by all means, carry on fretting about "exit strategy"......Be who you are

Hmmmmm.....
What action did FSG just complete that defies your incessant screeching about "FSG taking all their money out" ?
Hint: 538mill

Hmmmmmm you piping up again you F***ing rat? Still calling your supposed own fans victims?

Wouldn't that $538 million cover the Red Sox as well?

F**k off back to whichever rock you crawled out from under.

You'd think they were running an orphanage on public donations.

I just want them gone.

Stuff like this boils my blood. Fulham's fullbacks probably earn more

Who would you like to see replace them ?

Hmmmmmm you piping up again you f**king rat? Still calling your supposed own fans victims?

Wouldn't that $538 million cover the Red Sox as well?

F**k off back to whichever rock you crawled out from under.

Is that the money someone paid for 10% of the overall company ?

I see this thread is going as well as ever.

You'd think they were running an orphanage on public donations.

I just want them gone.

Stuff like this boils my blood. Fulham's fullbacks probably earn more

Yeah yeah let's pay all our players £160k a week as soon as they turn 18 or sign from F***ing Hull City and see where that gets us. Jesus wept I'm glad some of you have no responsibility for running our football club, we'd be bankrupt within a week.

Wouldn't that $538 million cover the Red Sox as well?

Please, stop embarrassing yourself.
Making ignorant statements such as your quote above demonstrates your sheer ignorance on topics clearly above your pay scale.
The myopia within LFC's fanbase is frightening.

The Red Sox are one of the biggest cash cows in all of sport. This is undeniable.
And despite maxing out its salary expenditures most every season, surplus Red Sox cash has financed all of FSG's ambitions to date. Thinking the Red Sox need funding is as clueless a statement as I have ever read on this board.

Yet, like your soulmate Walnuts, clearly you too live in an isolated bubble incapable of seeing the big picture.
If you believe FSG linked up with RedBird for "baseball opportunities", clearly you need to pay attention better.
And keep cling to the absurdity that FSG is all about extracting and exiting.

Here's a novel idea for you and your mates, read up on Redbird's principal partner's resume.
Gerry Cardinale's accomplishments are significant and it is abundantly clear to those who look beyond the pub windows which direction he is headed with his new partner FSG. The man has mastered every element in the business of sports.

https://www.redbirdcap.com/people/#member-406-info

Are here's a well informed bit of info: Baseball and its broadcasting elements are in Jerry's rearview mirror. His focus is aimed at Europe.

European soccer and all its business aspects, especially after Covid, are in turmoil on many fronts which means lucrative opportunities are abound.
FSG and Redbird linking up is a powerful combination that will be greeted with wide open arms. This kind of expertise, financial support, and clout is unprecedented. These are serious players with ambition, not Arab or oligarch hobbyists.

This group will be buying interests in European clubs and attempting to consolidate regional Euro media when the opportunity presents itself

If this is too complicated, have your bartender guide you through it

Please, stop embarrassing yourself.
Making ignorant statements such as your quote above demonstrates your sheer ignorance on topics clearly above your pay scale.
The myopia within LFC's fanbase is frightening.

The Red Sox are one of the biggest cash cows in all of sport. This is undeniable.
And despite maxing out its salary expenditures most every season, surplus Red Sox cash has financed all of FSG's ambitions to date. Thinking the Red Sox need funding is as clueless a statement as I have ever read on this board.

Yet, like your soulmate Walnuts, clearly you too live in an isolated bubble incapable of seeing the big picture.
If you believe FSG linked up with RedBird for "baseball opportunities", clearly you need to pay attention better.
And keep cling to the absurdity that FSG is all about extracting and exiting.

Here's a novel idea for you and your mates, read up on Redbird's principal partner's resume.
Gerry Cardinale's accomplishments are significant and it is abundantly clear to those who look beyond the pub windows which direction he is headed with his new partner FSG. The man has mastered every element in the business of sports.

https://www.redbirdcap.com/people/#member-406-info

Are here's a well informed bit of info: Baseball and its broadcasting elements are in Jerry's rearview mirror. His focus is aimed at Europe.

European soccer and all its business aspects, especially after Covid, are in turmoil on many fronts which means lucrative opportunities are abound.
FSG and Redbird linking up is a powerful combination that will be greeted with wide open arms. This kind of expertise, financial support, and clout is unprecedented. These are serious players with ambition, not Arab or oligarch hobbyists.

This group will be buying interests in European clubs and attempting to consolidate regional Euro media when the opportunity presents itself

If this is too complicated, have your bartender guide you through it

oh do F**k of you opinionated pr**k. FSG are here to increase their personal and collective wealth is that just too difficult for you to understand. This is Liverpool FC it is important that it remembers where it comes from and who the people are who have made it what it is over 130 years not just the last 10 or so. I am interested in Shankly's philosophy not some gobs***e financier .

Hmmmmm.....
What action did FSG just complete that defies your incessant screeching about "FSG taking all their money out" ?
Hint: 538mill

And since you self admit you don't have any ambition to examine FSG's pattern and history of sports ownership ("I don't give a flying f**k about facts of any kind"), by all means, carry on fretting about "exit strategy"......Be who you are

Any true Liverpool fan should be thinking about their eventual exit strategy. It's kind of an important issue.
If our value reaches 4 billion will they take the money and run, and not worry about who is buying us, for example another oil rich sheikh, a billionaire Arms dealer......
If they care about the future of Liverpool Post departure (and I'm not sure they will) will they make sure its not another Hicks and Gillett type?

Tight fisted owners...

https://twitter.com/watch_lfc/status/1398585522038226946?s=21

Unbelievable! !
If we didn't have the best manager on the planet how many of our underpaid stars would still be here?

Hmmmmmm you piping up again you F***ing rat? Still calling your supposed own fans victims?

Didn't catch that particular insult to LFC supporters but am left wondering why this F***ing rat is still amongst us.

“Like for like” - how many CB’s do you think that are able to “step into VVD” shoes in world football and also ones that are happy to sit on the bench waiting for him to be injured - your F***ing deluded if you expect that level of player to be a back up


What is this “lost cause” you are dribbling about ? The owners aren’t going anywhere and will continue to build the club


But let’s see if you can actually answer
 straight


Which owners within the Prem would you prefer to FSG and why ?


Or if no one in the Prem who would you like to see buy the club

You just keep on babbling sh*te about FSG when the facts dictate they are screwing the club and will profit enormously when eventually they do F**k off.
The club is a cásh cow for them and while they do not part with their own money the investment is now worth  £2bn, monies generated off the back of LFC.

Jürgen Klopp is responsible for a great deal of that sum without him FSG would be confronting an entirely different scenario and maybe even considering getting the F**k out of it right now.

Thinking the Red Sox need funding is as clueless a statement as I have ever read on this board.

Gerry Cardinale's accomplishments are significant and it is abundantly clear to those who look beyond the pub windows which direction he is headed with his new partner FSG. The man has mastered every element in the business of sports.

This group will be buying interests in European clubs and attempting to consolidate regional Euro media when the opportunity presents itself

1) HUYTON RED didn't say anything about funding from what I can see; you did. RedBird have invested in FSG, not funded it. So this "most clueless statement ever on this board" was one you just made up in your head. Seems to be an American thing: if the truth is a bit inconvenient, hey, just make up an alternative truth instead and push that. Trump was good at that: alternative 'realities'.

2) He hasn't really mastered every element in the business of sports has he. He has exploited the 'closed shop' nature of US sports to give specialist TV to fans who want to watch their team on TV. Not exactly a stroke of genius is it, selling Yankee TV to Yankees fans. An 8-year old could have thought that up. Still I expect Goldmans enjoyed mugging off their clients on that one, taking a nice fee for their 'genius' idea. Oh and his other big idea was some merchandising/ticketing vehicle to rip off Dallas Cowboys fans and Yankees fans, great, instead of being able to buy a Kop ticket for £40, we'll be able to buy it from RedBird LFC Ticketing and Merchandising Inc for £60 instead, aren't we lucky! How about scrapping season tickets and selling matchday tickets to the highest bidder - hey, Gerry's already way ahead of us on that one!

3) Right so some fella from New York is going to consolidate European media. Could be hard seeing as he has a 0% stake in it. One of FSG's big investment assumptions was that they were going to be able to break up the Premier League's collective bargaining on TV rights and each of the clubs would be able to monetise their own individual TV channel; our equivalent of Yankees TV. So far that assumption has been proven to be wrong, and it seems likely that for the foreseeable future it is going to continue to be wrong. The European leagues, and their current TV partners, have closed ranks. So one of the fundamental reasons for FSG investing in LFC looks as dead as a Norwegian Blue Parrot, and anyone investing in FSG on that basis has been sold a bit of a pup. Probably the biggest element of capital growth isn't going to materialise.

Let's hope for Gerry's sake that the European Super League wasn't 'priced in' to his investment in FSG, because if it was, well, Gerry's just lost a whole lotta dough, and when Gerry loses dough, Gerry aint happy!

Any true Liverpool fan should be thinking about their eventual exit strategy. It's kind of an important issue.
If our value reaches 4 billion will they take the money and run, and not worry about who is buying us, for example another oil rich sheikh, a billionaire Arms dealer......
If they care about the future of Liverpool Post departure (and I'm not sure they will) will they make sure its not another Hicks and Gillett type?

they are going to sell it back to the fans for the money they bought it for. Now I am off to the market to buy some magic beans

Unbelievable! !
If we didn't have the best manager on the planet how many of our underpaid stars would still be here?

“Underpaid” - it what way are they “underpaid”

You just keep on babbling sh*te about FSG when the facts dictate they are screwing the club and will profit enormously when eventually they do f**k off.
The club is a cásh cow for them and while they do not part with their own money the investment is now worth  £2bn, monies generated off the back of LFC.

Jürgen Klopp is responsible for a great deal of that sum without him FSG would be confronting an entirely different scenario and maybe even considering getting the f**k out of it right now.

So you pretty much just avoided both questions


1. Name the “like for like” CB who could replace VVD and willing to be back up to him ?


2. Who would you like to see own the club



And how can the club be a “cash cow” to them when they take no money out of the club 🤷‍♂️


Which “facts” show they are “screwing” the club ?


Is it the building up of the stadium to increase the capacity

Is is the increase of top class players in the club ?

How about the increase in income ?

What about the winning of all the major trophies ?


Which “fact” shows they are screwing the club


I wonder if you will actually answer or just deflect once again

they are going to sell it back to the fans for the money they bought it for. Now I am off to the market to buy some magic beans

They may not sell it for years - they could end up selling stakes in FSG or sell off a portion but right now there is only a select few who could afford the club - Middle East oil , Russian Oil or Chinese.


FSG aren’t perfect , made errors but look around the leagues and there isn’t many who I would like to see buy the club

I'm sure people would be a lot happier with the Glazers, Levy or Kroenke.

Hell, maybe they could persuade Mike Ashley to come here so that can really see what a bad owner is.

CL, Premier League, World Champions, all in one year.

But that's not enough.

"We only win because Klopp's here"
Aye, and he came here out of the goodness of his heart.

Players F**k the club over, go on strike, demand a transfer, bite people, oh but it's not their fault, they were being sold to fund player purchases.

Fucks sake, it's a joke, it really is.

why do people try to divert the conversation by bringing in other owners who gives a F**k what other clubs do. The soul of this club belongs to the people of the City and the clubs fans. Just to reiterate they do not love football they do not love the club or the City its an investment.
What happens in years to come matters because the club belongs to the fans who will then support it. So all you clever people explain what happens when a 72 year old has enough or pops an artery when he over does his activities with the lovely Linda. It will be like F***ing Grace Brothers and at the end of the season he will  say "you have all done very well". They found a gem in Jürgen because he believes in coaching and improving players and boy that suits them down to the ground as they would never employ Pep who demands the best players available to do his job. But carry on FSG are doing a cracking job and their Investment continues to grow with minimum input.

why do people try to divert the conversation by bringing in other owners who gives a f**k what other clubs do. The soul of this club belongs to the people of the City and the clubs fans. Just to reiterate they do not love football they do not love the club or the City its an investment.
What happens in years to come matters because the club belongs to the fans who will then support it. So all you clever people explain what happens when a 72 year old has enough or pops an artery when he over does his activities with the lovely Linda. It will be like f**king Grace Brothers and at the end of the season he will  say "you have all done very well". They found a gem in Jürgen because he believes in coaching and improving players and boy that suits them down to the ground as they would never employ Pep who demands the best players available to do his job. But carry on FSG are doing a cracking job and their Investment continues to grow with minimum input.

Because other owners are the type of owners we could have owning the club


Why do you keep bring up Henry’s age and him dying in future ?

No doubt when he does die his company will continue to own the club unless the company before then have sold it on

“Underpaid” - it what way are they “underpaid”

They got us for an absolute steal!

They got us for an absolute steal!

TAA and Robertson did 🤷‍♂️

TAA and Robertson did 🤷‍♂️

There's bargains out there for sure.