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      NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

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      Kopite78
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      Re: NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC
      Reply #24420: May 29, 2018 12:17:05 pm
      Oh dear.. a signing already? Not a good start for the FSG critics.  :f_tongueincheek:

      What I don't get about the ones who don't question them is don't you want to win? Don't you want them to give us the best opportunity to win?
      Are you happy with one trophy in 12 years?

      I think the vast majority who question the overall net spend since they have been in charge just want to win.. do they want to win more? I'd hope not but I will keep personally questioning until I feel they have given us the best chance to do so.
      They haven't done that yet in my opinion and I will be the first to thank them cap in hand if they invest to a big enough amount that we win the league

      So if this is the start and we add enough to challenge the city's then fantastic

      I'd more worry about the ones who don't question them personally
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      Reply #24421: May 29, 2018 12:30:49 pm
      What I don't get about the ones who don't question them is don't you want to win? Don't you want them to give us the best opportunity to win?
      Are you happy with one trophy in 12 years?

      I think the vast majority who question the overall net spend since they have been in charge just want to win.. do they want to win more? I'd hope not but I will keep personally questioning until I feel they have given us the best chance to do so.
      They haven't done that yet in my opinion and I will be the first to thank them cap in hand if they invest to a big enough amount that we win the league

      So if this is the start and we add enough to challenge the city's then fantastic

      I'd more worry about the ones who don't question them personally

      I'm more worried about people who feel they have to criticise the owners at every turn and every opportunity, despite great recent signings, including record breaking defender transfer.
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      Reply #24422: May 29, 2018 12:42:56 pm
      I'm more worried about people who feel they have to criticise the owners at every turn and every opportunity, despite great recent signings, including record breaking defender transfer.

      You happy with not winning then?

      Sound.

      I'm not

      And for the record I don't criticise them for everything. I've praised them for plenty.
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      Reply #24423: May 29, 2018 12:52:09 pm
      You happy with not winning then?

      Sound.

      I'm not

      And for the record I don't criticise them for everything. I've praised them for plenty.

      Can you show where you have praised them, because you, along with Stuey, seem to always delight in slagging them off at every little opportunity, its extremely tedious.
      BTW of course I want the club to win, but I also want the club to live within its means. As regards winning things I think we would have won the CL this year if it wasn't for some rotten luck with Ramos's illegal judo move on Mo and Karius have a sh*t game of epic proportions. Next season we already look stronger and the transfer window has only just opened!
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      Reply #24424: May 29, 2018 12:57:23 pm
      We were only saying yesterday 5 years ago a £40 mil signing would have been headline news now its not worth a mention.
      As long as Jürgen gives the nod I really don't care how many zero's are in the fee as long as he gets the player HE wants
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      Reply #24425: May 29, 2018 12:57:39 pm
      Can you show where you have praised them, because you, along with Stuey, seem to always delight in slagging them off at every little opportunity, its extremely tedious.


      That's bollocks

      You look of you are that bothered. I know what I've credited them for, it's there and I'm not a daft c**t that I can't remember


      BTW of course I want the club to win, but I also want the club to live within its means.

      They've not spent everything we could. It's all there.. our net profit is what the 4th lowest in the league?
      Had we spent more that's well within our means we may have had more options to change when Mo went off
      « Last Edit: May 29, 2018 01:04:50 pm by redkenny »
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      Reply #24426: May 29, 2018 01:01:02 pm
      You happy with not winning then?

      Sound.

      I'm not

      And for the record I don't criticise them for everything. I've praised them for plenty.

      It's be nice if we could win one of these f**king finals we keep getting to.  :f_tongueincheek:
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      Reply #24427: May 29, 2018 01:02:35 pm
      It's be nice if we could win one of these f**king finals we keep getting to.  :f_tongueincheek:

      Wouldn't it

      The thin squad is often desolute by may every year.

      Bit more investment may get us over line in those finals and be winners not runners up
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      Reply #24428: May 29, 2018 01:22:45 pm
      Why  people care if we live within our means this is a business .How many businesses these days only invest the profit they make if they did they would fall behind their competitors who do borrow to invest in their business.
       We were told we could compete with anyone in the Transfer market that's not quite true is it.
      I don't think Jürgen thinks in terms of names or transfer values he knows how he wants to strengthen his squad and whilst this si good for FSG we have to accept this is Jurgens way to success not by getting the cheque book out.
      This will only be his third season in charge I expect a lot more consistency and improvement in 18/19
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      Reply #24429: May 29, 2018 01:51:05 pm
      Can you show where you have praised them, because you, along with Stuey, seem to always delight in slagging them off at every little opportunity, its extremely tedious.

      He doesn't need to show you anything, he's allowed to have an opinion!! It's a bit like you with your constant digs at Karius, that's getting extremely tedious.

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      Reply #24430: May 29, 2018 02:22:58 pm
      Fekir + new CB + new keeper will do for me.

      Not sure we really need a new CB at this stage... I know Lovren can be hit and miss, but we have Matip, and Gomez as stand in's.With the Midfielders we have coming in that should offer the back four a lot more cover than we currently have...

      I believe by the way we fell apart when we lost Mo, we really need to be looking for another striker over a CB... But both would be nice  ;D
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      Reply #24431: May 29, 2018 02:42:38 pm
      Not sure we really need a new CB at this stage... I know Lovren can be hit and miss, but we have Matip, and Gomez as stand in's.With the Midfielders we have coming in that should offer the back four a lot more cover than we currently have...

      I believe by the way we fell apart when we lost Mo, we really need to be looking for another striker over a CB... But both would be nice  ;D

      Yeah think we're ok in defence, my own personal opinion I'd be looking at a back up for Robbo and say ta-ra to Moreno, but other than that there doesn't need to be real changes in defence.

      Fabinho and Keita will hopefully add some more steel to that midfield.

      I think Fekir could be the attacking option - although another back-up striker would be good.

      Bogdan's being released, I'd sell Mignolet, we won't get shut of Karius (after Saturday, can't see there being a rush for anyone else to buy him), so possibly a new keeper needed!
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      Reply #24432: May 29, 2018 02:51:01 pm

      So confirmed he's not an option then.
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      Reply #24433: May 29, 2018 04:12:57 pm

      Apparently he’s not signed a new contract yet so the release clause is still 80-90mill.
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      Reply #24434: May 29, 2018 04:16:49 pm
      Not sure we really need a new CB at this stage... I know Lovren can be hit and miss, but we have Matip, and Gomez as stand in's.With the Midfielders we have coming in that should offer the back four a lot more cover than we currently have...

      I believe by the way we fell apart when we lost Mo, we really need to be looking for another striker over a CB... But both would be nice  ;D

      I'd go with this.

      No defender is leaving, which means we won't sign anyone. We have numbers in depth with those you mention and Raggy. Would personally move on Joel but Jürgen looks to have made it clear he will be back for next season.

      Need to sort out our attack now. Can't keep having the best trio in the world and then taking one out for Dom Solanke or Danny Ings.

      Two attackers and we're set.

      EDIT: Also, FSG in! ;)
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      Reply #24435: May 29, 2018 04:21:44 pm
      He doesn't need to show you anything, he's allowed to have an opinion!! It's a bit like you with your constant digs at Karius, that's getting extremely tedious.



      I only have a dig when someone says that Karius can come back and should start for us, whilst at the same time bemoaning our lack of investment!
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      Reply #24436: May 29, 2018 04:24:57 pm
      I only have a dig when someone says that Karius can come back and should start for us, whilst at the same time bemoaning our lack of investment!

      You're running around the board like a little bi*ch having a dig at anyone wanting to defend Karius.

      YNWA must mean f**k all to you then!!
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      Reply #24437: May 29, 2018 06:03:22 pm
      Jürgen will decide if he stays or goes and if he stays he knows the lad well enough to believe he can put that night to one side and start again.
      Sometimes people who overcome such adversity become so much stronger than before. I am not saying he will or won't but I think Jürgen will want to see how he comes back to training at Melwood.
      The problem he has is his first mistake at Anfield will be greeted with moans and groans. Its a tough one.
      Do we have enough money to spend £50 mil on a goalkeeper but then again can we afford not to.
      Big decisions to be made this summer
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      Reply #24438: Jun 08, 2018 01:18:17 am
      John got what he wanted. Got to feel for the minnows in the league. The gaps just getting bigger. Dont want the premier ship to turn out like La Liga or the Bundesliga...

      https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jun/07/premier-league-big-six-win-battle-overseas-television-rights
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      Reply #24439: Jun 08, 2018 04:42:46 am
      John got what he wanted. Got to feel for the minnows in the league. The gaps just getting bigger. Dont want the premier ship to turn out like La Liga or the Bundesliga...

      https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jun/07/premier-league-big-six-win-battle-overseas-television-rights

      Bottom half clubs in England can still outspend many clubs in European competitions. They’ll be okay.

      Poor ownership will be their demise before a deal like this.

      Anyways, we’ve gone out and got a new midfield. They’re decent aren’t they?
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      Reply #24440: Jun 08, 2018 05:15:13 am
      Only worry is all this action will culminate with Salah in Barca shirt. If we lose no more of our first team and end up with Keita, Fabinho and Fekir then brilliant work and it means we are serious about 2018-19 for the LEAGUE!!!
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      Reply #24441: Jun 08, 2018 06:47:56 am
      This has the makings of being one of the best transfer windows in Liverpool history should they secure Fekir and a goalkeeper. I really like the vision in trying to have a midfield where everyone is capable in possession and everyone can make a pass between the lines. This is something that will no doubt make one of the best front three's in football even better.

      For all the flack that the owners get, and I have been one of their biggest critics here, they have done better than great this window, and that is an understatement. On paper, this has to be one of the two most exciting teams in the league as things currently stand.
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      Reply #24442: Jun 12, 2018 08:15:03 pm
      Just seen this on twitter, if they are correct, I'm a little bit disgusted in Liverpool FC charging that price.

      https://twitter.com/BillyCampbell_1/status/1006430763414417409
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      Reply #24443: Jun 12, 2018 09:02:49 pm
      Just seen this on twitter, if they are correct, I'm a little bit disgusted in Liverpool FC charging that price.

      https://twitter.com/BillyCampbell_1/status/1006430763414417409

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      Reply #24444: Jul 19, 2018 08:53:25 am
      This thread is remarkably quiet given the activity in recent weeks.....
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      Reply #24445: Jul 19, 2018 09:00:17 am
      This thread is remarkably quiet given the activity in recent weeks.....

      That's the way things go on here. No activity on here until something goes wrong then it's the owners fault.

      Don't worry something will come up and we'll see a few things most likely:

      1. They've only spent this season, our net over their time is still 'x' and everyone else is 'y'
      2. The money spent on Keita which last season people argued would be taken out of this years budget, not last years will now suddenly be taken out of last years budget to lower the spend this season.
      3. The only reason we're buying is to sell, FSG just see the current trend as buying premium cattle instead of calfs, higher buying cost but higher resale value.


      And there will be at least one lunatic out there that will say they still don't have the clubs interest at heart despite the work on the team, ground and training facilities.

      Or maybe people will have a change of heart, unlikely mind you.
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      Reply #24446: Jul 19, 2018 09:13:07 am
      This thread is remarkably quiet given the activity in recent weeks.....

      wait until we have a blip or we lose 2 games in a row
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      Reply #24447: Jul 19, 2018 09:21:24 am
      That's the way things go on here. No activity on here until something goes wrong then it's the owners fault.

      Don't worry something will come up and we'll see a few things most likely:

      1. They've only spent this season, our net over their time is still 'x' and everyone else is 'y'
      2. The money spent on Keita which last season people argued would be taken out of this years budget, not last years will now suddenly be taken out of last years budget to lower the spend this season.
      3. The only reason we're buying is to sell, FSG just see the current trend as buying premium cattle instead of calfs, higher buying cost but higher resale value.


      And there will be at least one lunatic out there that will say they still don't have the clubs interest at heart despite the work on the team, ground and training facilities.

      Or maybe people will have a change of heart, unlikely mind you.

      Can you not just say that for the last 12 months or so they've become the exact owners I wanted?
      But it took a long time and a fair few mistakes and learning for them to get there?
      That's my view anyway
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      Reply #24448: Jul 19, 2018 09:25:25 am
      It is hard to fault FSG at the moment, they have been backing Jürgen very well lately. I genuinely think that they just got their fingers burned under Rodgers with some of the sh*t signings we made and they are now fully confident and behind Jürgen and his vision.
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      Reply #24449: Jul 19, 2018 09:49:57 am
      It is hard to fault FSG at the moment, they have been backing Jürgen very well lately. I genuinely think that they just got their fingers burned under Rodgers with some of the sh*t signings we made and they are now fully confident and behind Jürgen and his vision.

      Not just Rodgers, lets be honest here we wasted £35m on Carroll, £20m on Downing (!!!!) etc etc. The list goes on.

      Fortunately for FSG, and for us, we now have Jürgen, who's capable of getting the best out of what we already have, knows what kind of player and what kind of person he wants whenever we make a signing, and is creating a club and culture which players want to be a part of.

      I can't remember the last time I was more excited for a season...

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