NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

Mike Gordon spends most of his time over here, as does Werner.

Sure, but have you ever seen either of them
Cutting the lawn at Anfield? Hmm?

Werner said and I quote "our intention is to build the asset" . Not win the league ,the CL ,or the FA Cup its not about the football on the pitch its about the business off it that keeps their interest. As long as "their asset" grows they couldn't give a flying F**k about winning Silverware.
Someone might advise them that winning silverware is the best way to protect the value of their asset.

The money coming into the club from players sales,TV rights and CL footie is higher than ever so quite happy for them to stay at arms length as long as they continue to help Jürgen build the strength and quality of the squad.

Apparently the deal led by Sheikh Khaled was put to a halt straight away because they failed to provide the proof of funds, a little amount of 25mill.

Reminiscent of the proposed deal by Sheikh Muhammad of Dubai before H&G took over, what seemed like a get out of jail card just evaporated, maybe like that scenario it was all smoke and mirrors.

To be honest, FSG have vastly improved over the last couple of years so as far as owners go I’m quite happy with them. But, I wouldn’t be against them doing what City done and get outside investment of a small percentage, which is what it appears they are searching for. If it allows us to compete more on a financial scale with the likes of City whilst maintaining their financial security of the club, it can only be a good thing.

That does sound like the perfect solution, generating capital by other means than selling off star players can only be a plus.

The fact this Sheikh being talked about at the moment was having to get backing from a Chinese investment firm and a Swiss hedge fund, had trouble written all over it and is probably why it was immediately rejected. IMO.

All the accountants would be looking at is the spondoolies up front, not maybe, no promises or IOU's, if the hardbacks are absent so is any deal.
The H&G calamity is a case in point.

Note the timing of today's speculative/unsubstantiated $2 billion bid report........concurrent to LFC's reported attempt to secure funding via a minor share sale.
Selling 15% at $1 billion (pre 2017-18 valuation)
Selling 15% at $1.4 billion (mid season valuation)
Selling 15% at $2 billion rumored bid
Savvy businessmen manipulating the lusty media to serve their business interests.
 

Someone might advise them that winning silverware is the best way to protect the value of their asset.

The stadium is the foundation of the "asset" and it is clear their mission is to continue to develop/expand this property.

The highest valued NFL franchises have two things in common.....rabid fan bases and team-owned, oversized stadiums. Refer to the Dallas Cowboys.....100k seat stadium, 100% sold out, team owned...........$4.8 billion valuation...almost double the average NFL team valuation of $2.5 billion.....all because of its stadium. Remember....all teams equally share their massive TV revenue....yet Dallas is the King of the mountain.
It all starts with the stadium and FSG's stadium expansions demonstrate their complete knowledge of "asset" expansion. For long term success, the foundation must be sturdy and big. Buying players can take teams to new heights (or not), but without the right foundation in place to compete long term, success can be fleeting

The stadium is the foundation of the "asset" and it is clear their mission is to continue to develop/expand this property.

The highest valued NFL franchises have two things in common.....rabid fan bases and team-owned, oversized stadiums. Refer to the Dallas Cowboys.....100k seat stadium, 100% sold out, team owned...........$4.8 billion valuation...almost double the average NFL team valuation of $2.5 billion.....all because of its stadium. Remember....all teams equally share their massive TV revenue....yet Dallas is the King of the mountain.
It all starts with the stadium and FSG's stadium expansions demonstrate their complete knowledge of "asset" expansion. For long term success, the foundation must be sturdy and big. Buying players can take teams to new heights (or not), but without the right foundation in place to compete long term, success can be fleeting

Yea and look at how much Dallas has won in the last 20 years (hint, I’m a fan and they’ve won jack squat). Valuation isn’t what’s important, winning titles/championships/trophies is.

Yea and look at how much Dallas has won in the last 20 years (hint, I’m a fan and they’ve won jack squat). Valuation isn’t what’s important, winning titles/championships/trophies is.

exactly football should still be a sport with winners and losers the entertainment is in the winning.

So we're doing well, looking dangerous and got a game tomorrow?

Time for some bullshit about owners and buy-outs then!!

The stadium is the foundation of the "asset" and it is clear their mission is to continue to develop/expand this property.

They can only go up to about 62,000, unless they're prepared to pay out of their own pocket to get roadworks and travel issues sorted.

The stadium is the foundation of the "asset" and it is clear their mission is to continue to develop/expand this property.

The highest valued NFL franchises have two things in common.....rabid fan bases and team-owned, oversized stadiums. Refer to the Dallas Cowboys.....100k seat stadium, 100% sold out, team owned...........$4.8 billion valuation...almost double the average NFL team valuation of $2.5 billion.....all because of its stadium. Remember....all teams equally share their massive TV revenue....yet Dallas is the King of the mountain.
It all starts with the stadium and FSG's stadium expansions demonstrate their complete knowledge of "asset" expansion. For long term success, the foundation must be sturdy and big. Buying players can take teams to new heights (or not), but without the right foundation in place to compete long term, success can be fleeting

 

Hmm.lots of corporate shitetalk.Will we see you posting in the NFL thread? As a plus at least Henry ain't an utter gobs***e like the Dallas owner. But we need to keep a eye on the suits.

Werner said and I quote "our intention is to build the asset" . Not win the league ,the CL ,or the FA Cup its not about the football on the pitch its about the business off it that keeps their interest. As long as "their asset" grows they couldn't give a flying f**k about winning Silverware.
Someone might advise them that winning silverware is the best way to protect the value of their asset.

He did say that - but he also said, in the same interview, "there will be trophies in that trophy case going forward. It's a pledge. I don't know when we will honour that pledge but we will honour it. We're going to make steady progress. We're in a very competitive league but we won't settle for anything less than first."


Odd how you failed to quote that part of the same interview ...

Yea and look at how much Dallas has won in the last 20 years (hint, I’m a fan and they’ve won jack squat). Valuation isn’t what’s important, winning titles/championships/trophies is.

Valuation isn't important............... ...........except when you want to sell shares to afford greater ambitions.
But why let finance reality get in the way ale-inspired wisdom

They can only go up to about 62,000, unless they're prepared to pay out of their own pocket to get roadworks and travel issues sorted.

In Boston, Henry bought the biggest local newspaper, a paper not shy to promote specific agendas. He also financially supports local politicians. Pretty powerful combination.........and wouldn't you know.......public projects that affect Fenway Park and its immediate surroundings get magically funded by the taxpayer. Streets have been shut down permanently and handed over to FSG with little discussion.
Give FSG time in Liverpool and we'll see what kind of "partnership" develops between FSG and government.
62,000 might be the limit now....but FSG has shown an uncanny ability to push projects through, even stack premium priced seats on top of walls in order to maximize space.

Yea and look at how much Dallas has won in the last 20 years (hint, I’m a fan and they’ve won jack squat). Valuation isn’t what’s important, winning titles/championships/trophies is.

As the comment you replied to implies, JWH&Co seek out an asset that involves a totally dedicated fanbase that can be entirely relied on to fully support the asset week in week out, no matter how much the arena is enlarged.
The fact that any enlarged stadium will be filled to capacity is one hell of a bonus.
The fact that it was constructed with a loan to the club is a monumental bonus.

Yet the club still have to sell to buy.

He did say that - but he also said, in the same interview, "there will be trophies in that trophy case going forward. It's a pledge. I don't know when we will honour that pledge but we will honour it. We're going to make steady progress. We're in a very competitive league but we won't settle for anything less than first."


Odd how you failed to quote that part of the same interview ...

Parrot fashion JWH made a reference to "bringing back the glory days to Anfield" that was 8 years ago.
Any credit today is down to Klopp whose genius has pulled the owners right out of the sh*t.

He did say that - but he also said, in the same interview, "there will be trophies in that trophy case going forward. It's a pledge. I don't know when we will honour that pledge but we will honour it. We're going to make steady progress. We're in a very competitive league but we won't settle for anything less than first."


Odd how you failed to quote that part of the same interview ...

then please list the Silverware we have won with FSG. Strange how you didn't mention that

then please list the Silverware we have won with FSG. Strange how you didn't mention that

You stated that Werner had no interest in winning silverware and then produced a snippet of a quote taken completely out of context to try and illustrate that. I was merely pointing out how disingenuous you were being by editing the quote in the way that you did.

It wasn't JWH who threw the ball at Benzema, or dropped it into his own net, nor was it Mike Gordon who had a sh*te second half against Seville, and I don't think any of the FSG investors threw away our best chance at a league title in years at back end of the season in 2014.

We've been in a position to win trophies here and there for years now, the failure has ultimately been on the pitch. Since Klopp has come in our owners have backed him in everything, from personnel to a new combined training facility. This last year it's clear Klopp decided to go big on a few players - namely VvD, Allison and Keita, and FSG didn't baulk at the world record figures for two of them. For all we know Klopp didn't want to spend that money on anyone but those three. Nothing we've seen from our transfer business under Klopp suggests he's settling for anything less than his first choices.

We've seen the effect of everyone at the club pulling in the same direction under Klopp - we are so close now to being a team and a club that challenges on all fronts year in year out, and I don't get why some still question the owners. They've made mistakes but it's seems they learn from them. Just enjoy what's happening on the pitch in front of your eyes and let's see where it takes us...

Thankfully there's a game tomorrow, maybe we can get back to the football!

Werner said and I quote "our intention is to build the asset" . Not win the league ,the CL ,or the FA Cup its not about the football on the pitch its about the business off it that keeps their interest. As long as "their asset" grows they couldn't give a flying f**k about winning Silverware.
Someone might advise them that winning silverware is the best way to protect the value of their asset.

The money coming into the club from players sales,TV rights and CL footie is higher than ever so quite happy for them to stay at arms length as long as they continue to help Jürgen build the strength and quality of the squad.

I think a lot of what they say gets lost a little in translation - when they say "asset i suspect they mean the stadium and club as a whole. They have made a lot of mistakes early doors - poor choice of manager , poor transfer structure and money going on poor players , putting trust in people whose history was chequered and it seems that over the last 2/3 years they pretty much started again - Klopp coming in , stadium being extended which further plans to keep going , better financial deals, allowing the manager to run the football side and get the players he wants and backing him.

Since Klopp has arrived they have allowed him to be the face of the club and to be the vocal point , there seems to be a nice relationship with him and Edwards and the owners , doesnt seem to be any public blowouts and their handling of the Coutinho situation was good , they have learnt from mistakes and they are now allowing the manager to build a squad that will hopefully produce on the pitch - its been a long hard road from the days of the cowboys but hopefully we are getting to the stage where they are just not spoken about much.

I dont see them going anywhere for a while but i do see them looking for smaller financial investments to help boost coffers or increase stadium plans.

I see the club in a solid position both on and off the field - some nice trophies would be a good way to ice the cake

Werner said and I quote "our intention is to build the asset"

Link?

Knocked back a £2 billion offer for the club from the cousin of the Man City owner..

👀

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6092431/Cousin-Man-City-owner-failed-world-record-2bn-takeover-Liverpool.html

I know it’s the Fail..

I feel it has more to do with what the Club will be worth if we win the Premier League and CL..... The feel that they could get not only the money they feel they have put in (Stand, Debt etc) but that plus £2bn on top....
Did they not try to broker a deal for 33%-40% for the club for £1bn ..?? shows you what they think the club is worth

It wasn't JWH who threw the ball at Benzema, or dropped it into his own net, nor was it Mike Gordon who had a sh*te second half against Seville, and I don't think any of the FSG investors threw away our best chance at a league title in years at back end of the season in 2014.

We've been in a position to win trophies here and there for years now, the failure has ultimately been on the pitch. Since Klopp has come in our owners have backed him in everything, from personnel to a new combined training facility. This last year it's clear Klopp decided to go big on a few players - namely VvD, Allison and Keita, and FSG didn't baulk at the world record figures for two of them. For all we know Klopp didn't want to spend that money on anyone but those three. Nothing we've seen from our transfer business under Klopp suggests he's settling for anything less than his first choices.

We've seen the effect of everyone at the club pulling in the same direction under Klopp - we are so close now to being a team and a club that challenges on all fronts year in year out, and I don't get why some still question the owners. They've made mistakes but it's seems they learn from them. Just enjoy what's happening on the pitch in front of your eyes and let's see where it takes us...

Thankfully there's a game tomorrow, maybe we can get back to the football!

What's all this stuff about "the owners did not baulk at the world record transfer fees"?
The owners didn't have to part with a cent!
The club's achievements paid the transfer fees.

The extended stadium and the other facilities you mention were accomplished in part by way of a loan to LFC from FSG and club finances.

The owners are shrewd businessmen however the burgeoning success of the club is solely down to Jürgen Klopp.

What's all this stuff about "the owners did not baulk at the world record transfer fees"?
The owners didn't have to part with a cent!
The club's achievements paid the transfer fees.

The extended stadium and the other facilities you mention were accomplished in part by way of a loan to LFC from FSG and club finances.

The owners are shrewd businessmen however the burgeoning success of the club is solely down to Jürgen Klopp.

Didn’t FSG get Klopp 

And also it’s their man who is doing the transfer negotiations that we are all impressed with

Can’t deny their involvement in the upsurge of the club over the last couple of years , they have backed their manager with a lot of money , got him the players he wants , they are still the people signing the cheques and it’s still their money that is being spent regardless of where it has come from.

I do believe when they took the club on they said it would be self sufficient and believed success can still happen - it’s getting there