UEFA charges Mourinho, Alonso, Dudek, Ramos and Casillas

I think that they should delay the judgement until after the last game, that way the suspension would HAVE to be served in the knock out stage and also casillas, Dudek and Maureen should also be repremanded ! IT's plainly wrong but the problem is it's also permissable under the current rules !

Doesn't bother me to be honest, would we complain if Torres and Gerrard done it ?


Would we F**k, we'd be overjoyed they had a clean slate for the next round, so for that reason I'm out.

Can't believe Ramos even had the nerve to shake the ref's hand,

To be honest, I wouldn't really want to see our players doing it.

No clean slate, so what? That's how it's meant to be, IMO.

Real Madrid declare surprise at UEFA

Real Madrid admit they are "surprised" by the announcement that UEFA have charged coach Jose Mourinho and four players.

UEFA have launched an investigation into whether Sergio Ramos and Xabi Alonso deliberately incurred red cards during Tuesday's Champions League match with Ajax.

Ramos and Alonso, together with Jerzy Dudek and Iker Casillas, are also under investigation for alleged improper conduct.

A statement from UEFA today said: "UEFA has confirmed that a disciplinary case has been opened against Real Madrid for the improper conduct of coach Jose Mourinho and players Xabi Alonso, Sergio Ramos, Iker Casillas and Jerzy Dudek during the UEFA Champions League Group G match against AFC Ajax in Amsterdam on Tuesday."

Madrid responded this evening with a statement which read: "Real Madrid expresses its surprise for such a decision, as it understands it does not follow the content of UEFA's Disciplinary Regulations."

Alonso and Ramos were both sent off late in the 4-0 win in Holland after receiving second yellow cards for time-wasting.

That means the two Spain internationals will be suspended for Madrid's final Group G match against Auxerre - which is a dead rubber for the already-qualified Spanish side - but could see their disciplinary records wiped clean ahead of the knockout stages.

There have been accusations that both cautions were deliberately incurred, with substitute goalkeeper Dudek apparently relaying a message - via Casillas - that Alonso and Ramos, having already been booked, should time-waste and seek second yellows so as to get any ban out of the way.

Alonso delayed taking a free-kick in his own half and Ramos delayed taking a goal-kick for Casillas.

The case will be dealt with by the UEFA Control and Disciplinary Body on Tuesday, November 30.

http://www.espnstar.com/football/champions-league/news/detail/item537059/Real-Madrid-declare-surprise-at-UEFA/

It's been happening for years, but this is the most blatant example I have ever seen.  That's Maureen for you.

Have to be honest, this had me in stitches laughing. Brilliant! Well....not brilliant as it is cheating but quite funny.

Tricky as hell, this!

It is cheating, at the end of the day deliberately breaking the rules in order to gain a future advantage is against the spirit of the game.

However, I don't believe it is written in the laws of the game that a player cannot intentionally try to receive a yellow card, which is why there is so much of a grey area.

I didn't like what I saw on the video, it was farcical, but I'm not going to say I'm outraged. Real will probably put out the reserves for the final group match, which isn't very sporting either since it may influence the final standings of the table, but nothing will be said about it.

F***ing stupid, it happens all the time.

Its not like the game was being affect, already 4-0, and its not like they were going in for tackles likely to injury.

Tricky as hell, this!

It is cheating, at the end of the day deliberately breaking the rules in order to gain a future advantage is against the spirit of the game.

However, I don't believe it is written in the laws of the game that a player cannot intentionally try to receive a yellow card, which is why there is so much of a grey area.

I didn't like what I saw on the video, it was farcical, but I'm not going to say I'm outraged. Real will probably put out the reserves for the final group match, which isn't very sporting either since it may influence the final standings of the table, but nothing will be said about it.

Don't think it can be taken as cheating Ayrton as the penalty for the second bookings is a red card and as such results in a sending off which is the designated punishment ! its unsporting to say the least and the rules need changing to avoid it being repeated why should the slates be wipe cleaned after the League stage anyway ?
Its exploitation of the rules and needs stamping out A.S.A.P. !

Watch those two videos, Guilty as Sin. Send them down.

But Guilty of what? Manipulating the rules? Well Ronaldo did that week in week out with his diving.

What makes it more laughable is that Ramos shook the ref's hand and then started smirking when he saw the coaches and that on the bench- at least try and hide it a bit better!

I know it's unsporting but if there's no rule against it, then I suppose it's just using the current rules to your advantage.


P.S any future footballers who are going to do this: dont do an Alonso or Ramos, working on the acting skills!

Don't see the problem to be honest, they are using the rules to their advantage, no more or less than we should be doing.  Why should we criticise someone for being clever?

Nothing wrong here.

Simply finding a loophole and using it to their advantage.

The players in any case will serve their ban, so it's not like they're trying to circumvent that, is it?

UEFA is sh*t.. They put up stupid rules and then when managers exploit the loopholes. They wanna put up a clean face and impose fine and punishment.. Either change the rules or go along with the tactics used by managers...

Don't think it's that big a deal. It's just bizarre how obvious they made it.

For me, it's being aware of the situation and is clever by Mourinho, of course it's not what you want to see but at least they got the yellows by wasting time and not be risking injuries to the Ajax players, it was also nice to see Suarez on the other end of cheating for once.

How I laughed at that bit. . . Look Suarez somebody is cheating. . . Quick tell the ref. . . You little smug handballing arse

This is the chance for UEFA to cut it though. It may happen, but this is a clear case of it happening and authorities have the chance to make an example of clubs and players manipulating the rules.

That's how i see it.

Uefa bans Real coach Jose Mourinho for improper conduct

Real Madrid coach Jose Mourinho has been fined by Uefa and banned for two Champions League matches, the second of which is suspended for three years.

Along with Real players Xabi Alonso and Sergio Ramos, Mourinho was found guilty of improper conduct relating to the pair's recent dismissals against Ajax.

Alonso and Ramos were also fined by European football's governing body.

Real had expressed "surprise" that Uefa investigated claims Alonso and Ramos deliberately incurred the red cards.

Mourinho - who had denied the allegations - was fined £33,500 for appearing to instruct Alonso and Ramos to attempt to receive strategic second yellow cards in last week's 4-0 win at Ajax.

They were both sent from the field for time-wasting, meaning they would be banned from group G winners Real's next match against Auxerre - which is effectively meaningless - but then be free to start the Champions League last 16 knockout round without suspension.

Alonso and Ramos were fined £16,700 for their part in the incident, while goalkeeper Iker Casillas and his reserve Jerzy Dudek were also hit financially after being captured on television apparently passing messages to them from the dugout.

Portuguese coach Mourinho will only be suspended for the second match if he is again found guilty of improper conduct in the next three years.

An appeal may be lodged against the full ruling within three days.

When Mourinho coached Chelsea, Uefa banned him from the touchline for two matches in 2005 after he accused Barcelona coach Frank Rijkaard of visiting Swedish referee Anders Frisk at half time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/9244634.stm

Have UEFA found some Balls, or is it an empty punishment as Madrid have already qualified? I think the later.

Meaningless gesture that will change nothing

Crap punishment.

How can you punish players (who are already recieving a ban !) who are doing as instructed to by their boss !  its a chain of command thing Punish the Instigator not the players asecond time, either change the rule or double the penalty with the coach been banned from the stadium whilst the match is in progress !