Stephen Warnock to return on loan?

Caught sight of this this morning

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1347318/Aston-Villa-step-chase-defender-Maynor-Figueroa.html

Good idea or not? i did always like warnock solid defender in my opinion.

Sky saying this has been agreed. I know it's sky though.

Not good enough for villa, not good enough for us.

No chance, if he can't even get a regular place at Villa, why would we want him?

Not good enough for villa, not good enough for us.

He is good enough for both clubs IMO, just because Houllier isn't playing him doesn't mean he isn't good enough.

Being told it's very close to done. Mrs Konchesky is going to be pissed

He is good enough for both clubs IMO, just because Houllier isn't playing him doesn't mean he isn't good enough.

Houllier has played him quite a few times and every time I've seen him he's been poor.

Strange one. Is he superior to Aurelio. I dont think so. Isnt Insua coming back from loan this week also?

I like Warnock but I see no point in us signing players that are not better then what we have already in place (Im not including Koncheskey in that statement)

Aurelio can't play more than a game a week, insua is shocking and doubt he will get a look in with Kenny, warnock makes sense on all counts.

Aurelio can't play more than a game a week, insua is shocking and doubt he will get a look in with Kenny, warnock makes sense on all counts.

Insua's positional play was his big downfall. He will learn that with age

Warnock had a really good 09/10 season, I remember thinking a few times that he could have still done a job at LFC. I think its just Houllier is trying to stamp his managerial boot at Villa and some faces don't fit the mould he's trying to create.

I think it's one of those signings that I'd be more than prepared to give to the end of the season and could improve us. If it didn't work out he will (unless injured) will have a similar resale value so not much would be lost.

One thing we're lacking at the moment is someone who can cross a ball into the box, every cross we do now totally misses a red shirt. Warnock's capable and I wouldn't knock his signing.

Nowhere near as good as Fabio but Warnock will be a more reliable option.

I'd be quite happy with this because I can't face seeing that baldy b***ard playing another match. No offence meant to other baldies!

I hate going backwards!

He is good enough for both clubs IMO, just because Houllier isn't playing him doesn't mean he isn't good enough.

Exactly TR13. Some of the thinking on here defies logic.

Warnock is a good left back (both in attack and defense) and much better than when he left us - he would add to our team and he'd be an improvement on what we currently have, in my opinion. So it's a yes from me.  

I've no problem with a loan deal for the rest of the season if it means concentrating on attacking options in this transfer window.

Could mean we can get the DM, wide player and maybe striker that I think we need.

I really like Warnock. Just because Houllier isn't playing him doesn't mean he isn't good enough. A great talent and would be a valuable asset to the team. Jez, Kenny is really shoving the boot into Konchesky .

Isnt Insua coming back from loan this week also?

is he??


As for Warnock, I'm on the fence, I don't especially want him back. But I would take him. He did look very good a few years back,  ya a good few seasons at Blackburn and people were touting him for an England call-up. Haven't seen much of him lately tho.

is he??

Sure i saw something on his Facebook... and if so then we really dont need warnock aside for one thing, and its not natural ability.

We need a few fighters in the team and a few players that know what is expected of them / the LFC way! Now I know Warnock left us but as luke said - there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance... If you get my drift...

I'd be quite happy with this because I can't face seeing that baldy b***ard playing another match. No offence meant to other baldies!

You've offended nearly half our squad there mate.

As for Warnock, I'd take him.  In hindsight we should never have let him go, but he was plagued by injuries himself for a while.

And I also think a lot of our fans are blinded by Aurelio's ability because of the other options we have there, or lackof.  Yes he can whip in a good ball, takes good free kicks and has a bit of skill about him - but IMO, defensively, he ain't all that sound either.  He is obviously the best we have at the minute, but we can do better and Warnock might just be that.

Not good enough for villa, not good enough for us.

No chance, if he can't even get a regular place at Villa, why would we want him?

What a poor logic that is. Mascherano surely wasn't good enough for us then was he? How about judging him on his performances rather than his starting role?

For me, it's without doubt a yes. A massive improvement on Konchesky, Fabio and Insua (sorry I just don't get the love for Fabio, had a good 08/09 season, nothing since to be honest).

Warnock knows how to defend and knows when to go forward. I'm sure he would relish a chance to prove a point here that Rafa was wrong to sell him.

I'm all for this.

Cant be worse that what we are saddled with at the moment.

All we now need is a loan bid for jimmy tarore and we have sorted the left back position.

Rafa made a mistake letting him go. When Aurellio gets injured -not if- then it's back to PK at LB. is that what people want?

The difference between mash and warnock is that warnock has been given games and mash wasn't. He was good last season but so far this season has been very poor.

Warnock is a good fullback/wingback and if we arent going to invest on the squad right now i would say this is good business. He knows the club and what it means to play for this club I would welcome him back especially if it means bye bye to Konchesky.

I'd take him in a flash, I don't think he should have been sold in the first place, a good bit of business in my opinion, even if it is only till the end of the season, we need all the help we can get at the minute.

The best word i'd use to describe Warnock is 'reliable'. That's what we need right now. Was sad to see him go when he was shown the door, so yes, i'd have him back in a heartbeat, no hesitation whatsoever. Obviously he's not a long term solution but he would certainly improve the squad.

Never been a fan of him, always thought he was overrated by Liverpool fans cause he came through the youth ranks but right now, I'd gladly take him on loan. He's not spetacular but can do the job.

Then I would look for someone better in the summer.

If we bring in a quality winger in the window then this would compliment that.

If we bring in a quality winger in the window then this would compliment that.

well said, yin + yang = Harmony.

He's better than Konchesky and Insua put together so why not.

If this is true, it's not much of a risk considering it will be a loan deal. If it works out then great, if not, he'll go back to Villa. Well worth the (not very big) risk in my opinion.

 I'm 50-50 at the moment about this. While I've doubts about his ability, I think he's better than Konchesky, but considering it's only a loan deal until the end of the season then ok.
 Edit: One thing I read these days that was really bad news for us was we can't sell Konchesky because he can't play for three different PL teams in 1 season. Don't think anyone abroad is interested in him, so he'll be with us at least until the end of this season.

F**k Warnock, he isn't football player who has quality. We want Taye Taiwo and we could bring him for free on the summer.

So your problem with another player coming in on loan until the summer is what then. How will a summer target help us now Haris

To be honest I was surprised we let him go in the first place.

Good player and actually underrated. Was very disappointed when Rafa sold him in the first place but he's a very solid full back and worthy of a place in the Liverpool team. And it means Konchesky slips down the pecking order. Aurelio gets injured too much and judging on what I've seen the past year and a half I don't want to fall back on Insua or Konchesky just yet. Although Insua can still have a future at the club unlike Konchesky.

Far better than Konchesky, more reliable than Insua, probably not as injury prone as Aurelio.

Not really world class but... ^^

A loan would be ideal imo.

very good move imo as konk and insua are sh*te so depending on money we got to spend can go on attacking players

So your problem with another player coming in on loan until the summer is what then. How will a summer target help us now Haris

In that case we could buy Ajax's Erby Emanuelson (contract expires in summer 2011) and then we dont need to buy Taiwo.

Tawio is twice the player of Emamuelson.

Except our resident dutch expert reckons he is not the solution either

Never understood why we let him go to be honest,thought he was alright solid and reliable,win win situation if ged doesnt want him then why not?

I dont understand how a number of posters think warnock should not have been sold on, he came back from two broken legs and needed game time, so if he was not good enough for rafa's first team he also is not good enough for houlliers first team and lets remember warnock and houllier dont see eye to eye, however he cant be worse that what we have got already.

In that case we could buy Ajax's Erby Emanuelson (contract expires in summer 2011) and then we dont need to buy Taiwo.

Ok, so when are you going to start making sense? First in response to getting Warnock on loan till the summer you say no let's get Taiwo in the summer on a free, that'll help us alot now. Then when being called out on that you say well let's get Emanuelson then because his contract expires this summer. What?! Why not just get Taiwo now then? Emanuelson isn't even as good as Warnock, let alone Taiwo. Why would you want Emanuelson, please explain? Guess who hasn't even been the first choice left back for Ajax this and last season? Indeed, Emanuelson. But, enlighten me.

Right on queue Dex. Good man.

Better than Konchesky but I'd rather have Insua back.

Got no problem with this. He might flourish with us right now, it would be good to have him back.

would be a good stopgap as their are not much realistic options this winter, better off waiting for the summer till we finally fill that void @ LB

 I actually thought we got rid of Warnock too early but not having see him playing much of late I will not make an assessment on him now.If he does come back he will surely have the fire in his belly to try and get a permanent transfer,and lets face we need players with that hunger at Anfield right now.

makes no sense at all, Insua will be back, Aurelio is fit, Konchesky is available and Warnock is nothing special. having 4 average LB when we have nothing in the final third to support torres.

I hate going backwards!

I would normally agree with you Ian but it was worth going backwards for Robbie Fowler and Kenny Dalglish was'nt it.

Considering what we have there at the moment I would take him in a flash.

Had a great season under O'neill, I recall Rafa being slated on this very forum for releasing Warnock because he was in good form.

Didn't he say he would never come back to LFC?  Or was that just bravado after being sold.

I would normally agree with you Ian but it was worth going backwards for Robbie Fowler and Kenny Dalglish was'nt it.

Come on Billy, they're 2 legends of the Club, of course they were worth it. Bit of a class difference with Warnock.

Loan indicates a need to rectify the situation but no good targets available. That's fair enough.

Don't see the point.  IMO, we can make do with Aurelio (better than Warnock) or Insua (not as good but short term loss for long term gain) and we've also got Carragher and Konchesky as back-up to them with Agger who can also do a job there in exceptional circumstances.   Between them, they will cover us until the end of the season when we purchase a new first team LB and have Insua as their understudy with Aurelio providing cover for LB and being used occasionally at LW until his contract runs out the following season.

robbohuyton
 
Heard we've got Warnock back on loan until the end of the season. #lfc

His Mum works in my place, unfortunately I'm on holiday for a week.

Otherwise I could have been a "Source"

His Mum works in my place, unfortunately I'm on holiday for a week.

Otherwise I could have been a "Source"

The one time you could have had the spotlight!...

robbohuyton    Heard we've got Warnock back on loan until the end of the season. #lfc

Has it been confirmed yet?  Seems a bit bizarre as Konchesky cannot play for a third prem lge club this season, so he won't be moving anywhere.

I suppose, until the season's end it would be ok.

Has it been confirmed yet?  Seems a bit bizarre as Konchesky cannot play for a third prem lge club this season, so he won't be moving anywhere.

I suppose, until the season's end it would be ok.

He hasn't "played" for a second as far as I am concerned.

Fair do's.

I'd certainly feel more confident going into games with him at left-back.

Has it been confirmed yet?  Seems a bit bizarre as Konchesky cannot play for a third prem lge club this season, so he won't be moving anywhere.

I suppose, until the season's end it would be ok.

Loan him to a Championship club I say.

Spoke to a couple of Villa fans today, neither were unhappy he was on his way out.  Shocked me a bit, but they just said he hasn't been playing well.

I always felt it was a bad move to let him go in the first place! Hasn't been setting the world alight of late but having seen what he is capable of I would definitely take him back! I reckon Kenny would get him back to playing at the level he is capable of in no time!!

I've no problem with a loan deal for the rest of the season if it means concentrating on attacking options in this transfer window.

Could mean we can get the DM, wide player and maybe striker that I think we need.

I am thinking along the same lines, Warnock is better that what we have currently with Fabio to frail and I dont need to say anything about Konch. Get him in, focus on the attacking area we so desperately we need to improve.

Come on Billy, they're 2 legends of the Club, of course they were worth it. Bit of a class difference with Warnock.

OK Ian I will concede you are right and I am wrong.cheers mate.

OK Ian I will concede you are right and I am wrong.cheers mate.

Mate when I said I don't want to go backwards, same applies to Crouch. I loved him when he was here, gutted when he left but wouldn't want him back as he's done his time here and moved on. I just want to move forward. No one's wrong or right mate.

We should defo be aiming for higher than Warnock he has been poor for Villa.

Mate when I said I don't want to go backwards, same applies to Crouch. I loved him when he was here, gutted when he left but wouldn't want him back as he's done his time here and moved on. I just want to move forward. No one's wrong or right mate.

Would you say no to Alonso?

Warnock is good, but I would prefer that we focus our energy on getting in a boss LB.  Isn't it true that Taye Taiwo only has a few months left on his contract?  We should try to snag him up for a knockdown price!

Would you say no to Alonso?

3 mediocre seasons and one great 1, so yes a no from me. As for certain managers returning then yes.

3 mediocre seasons and one great 1, so yes a no from me. As for certain managers returning then yes.

Fair enough but would take Alonso back in a heartbeat. Nothing wrong with resigning players if they are good enough. Agree about Kenny ( well I hope your on about Kenny )

One things for sure, he'll play a lot better at left back than Glen Johnson.

Dunno watching him a few times for Villa this season he has been absolutely sh*te, he has gone massively backwards

regardless of whether its a loan, or how good he is/isn't, if Insua is coming back, we've got to offload a left back, what would be the sense of having Konchesky, Aurelio, Insua and Warnock.

If we get Warnock we will have a handle fulof average left backs, doesn't solve our  problem we need one very good one

Is Insua getting back now in January? I thought he had been loaned out for the whole season.

Mate when I said I don't want to go backwards, same applies to Crouch. I loved him when he was here, gutted when he left but wouldn't want him back as he's done his time here and moved on. I just want to move forward. No one's wrong or right mate.

I thought you were referring to Crouchino for a moment ,has he left LFCREDS.Only kidding.

Is Insua getting back now in January? I thought he had been loaned out for the whole season.

Was thinking the same myself.  Anyone know why Galatasaray cut his loan short?

Think I read a quote somewhere a while back that the new manager (George Hagi) didn't want to build his side around loan signings. Although I also heard that Insua had been playing well.

Liverpool FC eye loan move for Aston Villa left-back Stephen Warnock

FORMER Red Stephen Warnock could be set for a return to Anfield to solve Liverpool’s full-back problem.

The Aston Villa defender is currently being eyed by Liverpool during this month’s transfer window.

If negotiations are successful, Warnock could be snapped up on a loan basis with a view to a permanent move in the summer.

The Reds have been monitoring the 29-year-old after suggestions he is surplus to requirements at the Midlands club.

Liverpool are keen to land the services of the England international who played 40 games at Anfield.

That depends how keen Gerard Houllier is to part with the former Reds Academy player following limited opportunities at Villa Park.

Glen Johnson has been deputising at left-back in recent weeks, but manager Kenny Dalglish wants to bolster that position.

The Villains’ assistant boss Gary McAllister was quizzed about Warnock after their derby draw against Birmingham on Sunday.

Publicly, Villa insist he remains their player, but if negotiations prove fruitful, a switch back to Liverpool may be just days away.

Another Villa player who is pushing for a move to Anfield is England international winger Stewart Downing.

The former Middlesbrough wide man is understood to have told confidantes he is eager to come to Merseyside.

The Reds’ interest in the 26-year-old, however, is not as advanced as reports suggested yesterday.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2011/01/18/liverpool-fc-eye-loan-move-for-aston-villa-left-back-stephen-warnock-100252-28003858/

Didn't realise he's 29 now.

i always thought he was a good prospect i was annoyed when sold him to blackburn. he hasn't been on form this season because he hasn't been played. bit of motivation and he can be much better than insua and aurelio (i wont even mention konchesky).

i'd take him

Would you say no to Alonso?

Good question. I was gutted when he left, still am when you look at what we have in midfield and how we are craving for a player who can give that kiler pass. So in all honesty probably would. Having said that if in the near future Soso gets his chance, from what I've seen and heard of him, I probably wouldn't have the need to get Alonso back.

Alonso > Crouch & Warnock put together.

Emmanuelson just signed a bosman to AC Milan.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11863_6692330,00.html

(as he don't have a thread I post it here, where some people were suggesting a move for him)

Dan Roan reporting we are close to tying this up on loan with  view to a permanent move.

 I'm disappointed if that is true Warnock is no where near the quality we should be targetting, I'd handle him on loan but no way permanent another f**king mediocre left back not much better than Konchesky.

Dan Roan reporting we are close to tying this up on loan with  view to a permanent move.

 I'm disappointed if that is true Warnock is no where near the quality we should be targetting, I'd handle him on loan but no way permanent another f**king mediocre left back not much better than Konchesky.

If i am honest, i disagree with you. He should never have been sold in the first place. I think he is a very good player and one that would be a good addition to the squad. Don't get me wrong, i could see us going for another LB in the summer aswell as him but he is certainly better than Konchesky plus, arguably a different type of player, maybe also Aurelio.

No way the lad is a very good player, he was sh*te at Villa and was sold originally because Aureilo is a better player

There are tons of quality Lb's out there even in the PL theres figueroa and enrique, in france theres bastos and cissokho, theres coentrao from portugal etc

would like to think we could get one of those tbh

Not mad keen on warnock but rate him above kon,GJ isnt great at Lb and Fabio is too injury prone so for temporary loan good idea i guess

I'd prefer Johnson there to Warnock to be honest

the lad is in the Aston Villa reserves now. Do we still want him?

"They're here, they're Aston Villa players, they are training with the reserves. If needed, they will fill in. If not, they won't.

No I never wanted him, he is not good enough by a long shot

Insua's positional play was his big downfall. He will learn that with age

Well, that and being too slow and often looking like a deer caught in the headlights when he had the ball and giving it away too often, being weak in the tackle and.... oh, well, being about one percent worse than Djimi Traore.

Seriously man...if Insua is the answer we are all asking the wrong F***ing question.

Warnock? Didn't think we should have let him go but he is "reserve quality" only. Never would be first choice in my team.

Aurelio? OK but really not a good defender, better going forward but, whether you agree with that or not, he is too old and too brittle to be regarded as a fixture there.

Konchesky? I really don't think he is any worse than all these others to be honest.

Says a lot about us that Riise has been our best left back in the last 10 years. Rafa should have kept him until he found a top class replacement. (Yeah, yeah...I know...it was all Hicks' and Gilette's faults - Rafa is golden boy , blah, blah)

Well, that and being too slow and often looking like a deer caught in the headlights when he had the ball and giving it away too often, being weak in the tackle and.... oh, well, being about one percent worse than Djimi Traore.

Seriously man...if Insua is the answer we are all asking the wrong f**king question.

Warnock? Didn't think we should have let him go but he is "reserve quality" only. Never would be first choice in my team.

Aurelio? OK but really not a good defender, better going forward but, whether you agree with that or not, he is too old and too brittle to be regarded as a fixture there.

Konchesky? I really don't think he is any worse than all these others to be honest.

Says a lot about us that Riise has been our best left back in the last 10 years. Rafa should have kept him until he found a top class replacement. (Yeah, yeah...I know...it was all Hicks' and Gilette's faults - Rafa is golden boy , blah, blah)

Really? He was god awful. Did you watch the Blackburn game, he was the reason we lost 3-1. Without question he was awful. Insua, Aurelio, and Warnock on a bad day were better than Konchesky.

Would take him back in a flash!

Ok, he's been out of form but we could get him for a small fee in the summer and a few words of wisdom from Kenny (hopefully) and a few training sessions and he'd be up and running again.

He is F***ing average even at his best, he has being a complete F***ing disaster at Villa. No F***ing way is this lad good enough to be our net left back and it ain't going to happen now. Johnson is a much better player anyway even at left back

No, I like Johnson at left back.