What is considered as a big club

Brought this up in the Charlie Adams Topic
what does everyone consider to be a big club?
What does a club have to have done and have at present to be considered a big club

Not Rangers!

I think fanbase and history are usually considered the most important factors personally.

I'm no fan of Scottish football but I would consider Rangers and Celtic to be big clubs.

They both have a massive fan base, win trophies domestically, compete in Europe and have won trophies and played in finals of European competition.

I'm no fan of Scottish football but I would consider Rangers and Celtic to be big clubs.

They both have a massive fan base, win trophies domestically, compete in Europe and have won trophies and played in finals of European competition.

well i say the same
the only reason they arent as competitive in europe is money from TV revenue and also prize money for winning the league or cups
winning the league gets you 2million and winning the scottish cup is £60,000

so they get less than the team that finishes 20th in the pl

I'm no fan of Scottish football but I would consider Rangers and Celtic to be big clubs.

They both have a massive fan base, win trophies domestically, compete in Europe and have won trophies and played in finals of European competition.

I'd agree with this.  Rangers and Celtic have massive fanbases all over the world, have great, high capacity stadiums and do compete pretty much every year in Europe.  I do say 'compete' lightly though.

Saying that though, they do play in a poor league and using other bigger European teams as a barometer, their squads are very poor as well at this moment in time.  They wouldn't attract very many high calibre players to play in the Scottish league which isn't really their fault.

I'm no fan of Scottish football but I would consider Rangers and Celtic to be big clubs.

They both have a massive fan base, win trophies domestically, compete in Europe and have won trophies and played in finals of European competition.

There going to have a strong following Glasgow alone makes up 15% of scotlands Population .
       But they dont have the credibility in Honours that Other BIG clubs .

Saying that though, they do play in a poor league and using other bigger European teams as a barometer, their squads are very poor as well at this moment in time.  They wouldn't attract very many high calibre players to play in the Scottish league which isn't really their fault.

The squads of both clubs are not as good as they used to be and that is because they don't have the income now to compete with the clubs in England.

You can see over the years that as revenue has decreased in Scotland the quality of both squads has got worse.

In the late 90's early 2000's they could attract the likes of Brian Laudrup, Gascoigne, Larsson, Di Canio etc.

There going to have a strong following Glasgow alone makes up 15% of scotlands Population .
       But they dont have the credibility in Honours that Other BIG clubs .

Celtic have won the European Cup and competed in other European Finals while Rangers have won the European Cup Winners Cup and competed in other European Finals while both have won countless domestic trophies.

As I said I am no real fan of Scottish football but I do consider both clubs as big clubs.

There going to have a strong following Glasgow alone makes up 15% of scotlands Population .
       But they dont have the credibility in Honours that Other BIG clubs .

its not in glasgow they just have a massive following
its a worldwide following that have
theyve supporters clubs in near every country in world

Brought this up in the Charlie Adams Topic
what does everyone consider to be a big club?
What does a club have to have done and have at present to be considered a big club

At the very least won leagues and European Cups!!

Notice the plural.

Got to have Liverpool in the name to be a big club.

At the very least won leagues and European Cups!!

Notice the plural.

Real Madrid
Benfica
Inter
Ac Milan
Ajax
Manchester United
Liverpool
Bayern Munich
Porto
Barcelona
Juventus
Nottingham Forest

theyre the only teams to have won both leagues and European cups
so they the only teams you class as big clubs then
12 big clubs in the world

Do you lot consider Nottingham Forest & Leeds big clubs?

i miss Leeds being in the premiership
was always a big game to look forward to

no matter how much we all hate United if they were relegated you'd miss the games every season

Do you lot consider Nottingham Forest & Leeds big clubs?

Forest are a small club who punched way above their weight with Brian Clough as the manager. It just shows what can happen if you have a good manager in charge of your club. Virtually all their success came when he was boss and I don't think their fan base, ground or record in the last 20 years can class them as a big club.

Leeds I don't really class as a big club either.

as Carra once said "who's bigger than Liverpool".

At the very least won leagues and European Cups!!

Notice the plural.

dont you mean 5 European cups

The G14 was a fairly good indicator of 'big clubs'.

 Barcelona (Spain)
 Real Madrid (Spain)
 Liverpool (England)
 Manchester United (England)
 Juventus (Italy)
 Milan (Italy)
 Internazionale (Italy)
 Marseille (France)
 Paris Saint-Germain (France)
 Bayern Munich (Germany)
 Borussia Dortmund (Germany)
 Ajax (Netherlands)
 PSV (Netherlands)
 Porto (Portugal)

The G14 was a fairly good indicator of 'big clubs'.

 Barcelona (Spain)
 Real Madrid (Spain)
 Liverpool (England)
 Manchester United (England)
 Juventus (Italy)
 Milan (Italy)
 Internazionale (Italy)
 Marseille (France)
 Paris Saint-Germain (France)
 Bayern Munich (Germany)
 Borussia Dortmund (Germany)
 Ajax (Netherlands)
 PSV (Netherlands)
 Porto (Portugal)

Oh look no Rangers

A history of success, a world wide fan base, a world renown name and a said amount of respect around the world of football - usually built up by the history and fan base.

What! No Everton  

A history of success, a world wide fan base, a world renown name and a said amount of respect around the world of football - usually built up by the history and fan base.

This.

The fan base to me, simple as that. You can't buy that

Not Rangers!

Celtic are though!

A club with history and a trophy room filled.

A club with a fan base across the globe.

A club that will never die. Liverpool,

Oh look no Rangers

have you got a personal problem with Rangers

Why is this even a topic? There's only one answer.

LIVERPOOL FC

Just look at our club is exactly it.

Definition of a top club!

Just look at our club is exactly it.

Definition of a top club!

yeah but what other clubs would you consider

yeah but what other clubs would you consider

Liverpool reserves.

Celtic are no bigger than Rangers. The Scottish league is a very poor standard. Here in Ireland most people who follow Celtic is largely due to the Irish connection. Do not get me wrong. There is nothing wrong with this. However Celtic are in no league compared to Liverpool or Man Utd. The latter two, Real and Barca and a handful more across Europe fit into the category of a big club. 

A club with history and a trophy room filled.

A club with a fan base across the globe.

A club that will never die. Liverpool,

Celtic are though!

Celtic are though!