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      Who Will Get Promoted To The Premier League 2011-2012.

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      Who Will Get Promoted To The Premier League 2011-2012.
      Mar 17, 2011 04:44:42 pm
      Just a thread to discuss this.

      Its been a great season in the championship for the neutrals.

      Would love to see QPR, Forest and Norwich back in with the elite
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      Reply #1: Mar 17, 2011 04:48:10 pm
      Want Leeds. So we can destroy Leeds :)
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      Reply #2: Mar 17, 2011 04:50:45 pm
      Want Leeds. So we can destroy Leeds :)

      Same.

      My mate goes for Leeds. Want them to come up so they can go back down again.
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      Reply #3: Mar 17, 2011 05:01:04 pm
      I'd love Norwich to get promoted and actually stay up.

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      Reply #4: Mar 17, 2011 05:06:34 pm
      Cardiff or Swansea anyone?
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      Reply #5: Mar 17, 2011 05:14:24 pm
      QPR, Norwich and Leeds Utd will be promoted, in my opinion.
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      Reply #6: Mar 20, 2011 05:57:31 pm
      QPR
      Norwich
      Forest
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      Reply #7: Mar 29, 2011 09:36:09 am
      I don't know what is the answer
      you tell
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      Reply #8: Mar 29, 2011 11:05:04 am
      I don't know what is the answer
      you tell

      So is it Carmer or cramer... You tell me
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      Reply #9: Mar 30, 2011 04:23:42 pm
      Love to see them both go up, don't think that it will happen though!
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      Reply #10: Mar 30, 2011 04:44:41 pm
      Disagree with the call for leeds to come up I hate them with a passion as I DO Manure, if Leeds don't win another game I'll die happy !
      Smaller family clubs would be nice from a point of view of us taking points off of them but they won't stay up ! The bigger more successful clubs will survive but it gets boring with the same clubs bobbing up and down year in year out !
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      Reply #11: Mar 30, 2011 08:53:57 pm
      Would love to see norwich come up just for the way they football under paul lambert.
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      Reply #12: Mar 30, 2011 09:29:30 pm
      Leeds are our rivals ? Or why are you hating them ?
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      Reply #13: Mar 30, 2011 10:05:45 pm
      Leeds are our rivals ? Or why are you hating them ?
      Are you refering to my post ?  if so I've not said that they're our rivals just that I hate the with a passion, I'm pushing 50 and they we're our rivals back in the late 60's and early 70's and thats where the hatred stems from.
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      Reply #14: Mar 30, 2011 10:56:56 pm
      Leeds are our rivals ? Or why are you hating them ?

      To older fans, Leeds were our rivals back in the late 60s/early 70s. A bit like some of us who remember hating Arsenal big time in the late 80s/early 90s, it's hard to shake off.
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      Reply #15: Mar 31, 2011 02:54:03 pm
      i think hull city, could make a push into the play offs with the way theyve been playing lately
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      Reply #16: Apr 02, 2011 09:14:42 pm
      Are you refering to my post ?  if so I've not said that they're our rivals just that I hate the with a passion, I'm pushing 50 and they we're our rivals back in the late 60's and early 70's and thats where the hatred stems from.

      Ok, now i get it ;)
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      Reply #17: Apr 25, 2011 04:29:30 pm
      Bump.

      Getting interesting now.

      QPR set to become champions, between Cardiff and Norwich for second it seems.

      Play offs look tight too with Millwall, Forest, Leeds and Burnley chasing down one place.
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      Reply #18: Apr 25, 2011 05:01:04 pm
      Draw for QPR and a last gasp winner for Norwich.

      QPR promoted but not yet Champions.
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      Reply #19: Apr 25, 2011 05:03:48 pm
      really hope Norwich are promoted.
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      Reply #20: Apr 25, 2011 05:36:45 pm
      Draw for QPR and a last gasp winner for Norwich.

      QPR promoted but not yet Champions.

      Edit:  Sorry guys jumped the gun a bit, QPR not yet promoted.
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      Reply #21: Apr 25, 2011 06:52:44 pm
      Obviously won't happen for a very long time (or probably never) but are the Welsh teams able to qualify for europe or is it like that Lichtenstein team in Switzerland?
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      Reply #22: Apr 25, 2011 06:59:42 pm
      Obviously won't happen for a very long time (or probably never) but are the Welsh teams able to qualify for europe or is it like that Lichtenstein team in Switzerland?

      They used to mate back in the 70's/80's don't know if the rules have changed since though.
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      Reply #23: Apr 25, 2011 07:08:00 pm
      Edit:  Sorry guys jumped the gun a bit, QPR not yet promoted.

      Not just you who jumped the gun, a couple of hundred QPR fans at the full time whistle were on the pitch celebrating. :D
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      Reply #24: Apr 25, 2011 07:26:31 pm
      Not just you who jumped the gun, a couple of hundred QPR fans at the full time whistle were on the pitch celebrating. :D

      Haha, silly QPR fans! :D

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13189330.stm
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      Reply #25: Apr 25, 2011 08:13:45 pm
      Oh God no, cant stand Neil Warnock, he'll really piss me off next season.  :roll:
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      Reply #26: Apr 25, 2011 08:17:27 pm
      Actually smiggers, Dutch media are reporting QPR want Martin Jol to take over next season, among other names. Apparently they want a manager with more international experience.
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      Reply #27: Apr 25, 2011 08:34:58 pm
      Actually smiggers, Dutch media are reporting QPR want Martin Jol to take over next season, among other names. Apparently they want a manager with more international experience.

      Thank F**k for that, anyone but Warnock.  :D
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      Reply #28: Apr 25, 2011 11:38:22 pm
      Actually smiggers, Dutch media are reporting QPR want Martin Jol to take over next season, among other names. Apparently they want a manager with more international experience.

      Oh that would just be delicious.  I'm with Smiggs on this, I can't stand the fella especially after what he said about LFC.

      The look on his face if he was sacked after them getting promoted would be such Karma.
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      Reply #29: Apr 26, 2011 01:27:07 am
      Oh that would just be delicious.  I'm with Smiggs on this, I can't stand the fella especially after what he said about LFC.

      The look on his face if he was sacked after them getting promoted would be such Karma.

      I think he already knows, there were a few things in the sundays speculating QPR are going to get shut of him if they get promoted.
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      Reply #30: Apr 26, 2011 01:29:14 am
      The man is an ar**hole.

      Would love to hear him moan if he got sacked after getting QPR promoted!!
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      Reply #31: May 03, 2011 12:57:46 pm
      Former FA chief Mark Palios expects QPR points docking 
       
      The signing of Faurlin could cost QPR their Premier League status

      Former Football Association chief Mark Palios believes QPR will be deducted points following the hearing into their 2009 signing of Alejandro Faurlin.

      The hearing, which started on Tuesday, centres around seven charges relating to the initial deal arising from the Argentine midfielder's ownership.

      Palios told BBC Radio 4 that if the club are found guilty they would be docked points based on set precedents.

      QPR, who won promotion to the Premier League on Saturday, deny the charges.

      On Saturday, Rangers boss Neil Warnock reacted angrily to media claims that the club could be docked as many as 15 points, which would scupper their elevation to the top flight. The FA has since moved to deny that any decision had been made.

      The charges facing QPR concern the alleged existence of an agreement between them and a third party in respect of Faurlin's economic rights, and the alleged failure by the club to notify the FA of that agreement before the player was registered to play for them in England.

      The club has also been charged with allegedly using or seeking to pay an unauthorised agent as part of the Faurlin deal, while both the club and chairman Gianni Paladini have further been charged with allegedly submitting false information in documents provided to the FA relating to a contract extension signed by Faurlin in October.

      "There is a lot of precedent around playing an ineligible player and that ranges from the clerical errors around the transfer window, when they get small points deductions, to more serious situations," said Palios.

      "I think following the [Carlos] Tevez affair it is neccessary for a statement to be made. This is more serious than a clerical error, so deserves a points deduction almost certainly.

      "The second charge with regard to illegal payment to agents, I think there is a precedent when Luton got 10 points deducted for doing that.

      "Interestingly, the FA said they tried and didn't say they actually did make the payments to unregistered agents."

      The FA has been investigating the case since September, when QPR first asked for permission to buy out the third party that owned Faurlin's economic rights.

      The club was prompted to do this by the Football League's introduction of rules prohibiting the third-party ownership of players.

      The League told QPR they would have to notify the FA of their plans and it then became apparent the club may have been in breach of FA regulations for more than a year.

      Saturday's 2-0 win at Watford secured QPR's promotion to the Premier League as champions but any definite celebrations have had to be put on hold as the spectre of docked points hangs over the west London club.

      If a points deduction is indeed deemed necessary, then Neil Warnock's side could drop into the play-off places. The club would be expected to appeal if the FA rules against them.

      BBC Sport understands the Football League has held initial talks with clubs likely to be in the play-offs, regarding potentially switching the dates of the semi-finals if QPR are docked points.

      When interviewed on Monday's Late Kick Off programme on BBC One, QPR midfielder Shaun Derry agreed with his manager's assessment that the atmosphere around the club was "like a morgue" following Friday's press reports.

      "It was upsetting to read," said Derry. "Especially when it could mean taking away promotion and taking away the fact that winning that game meant we were champions.

      "We were going into a derby against Watford and to read that on the Friday, it was hard for the boys."

      Derry also underlined the impact a significant points deduction would have on the club.

      "It would be disastrous," stated Derry. "We have been the best team this year and we are up there on merit. What a hammer blow it would be to everybody connected with QPR - the players, the staff, the fans especially.

      "But you can't even think about it. What we have said all along is to take away what happens this week and celebrate it because if nothing does happen, you don't want to miss out on the celebration."

      The reason the case has been brought against QPR is because of rules that were brought in following the Carlos Tevez saga. That case dragged on for two years after Tevez helped West Ham stave off relegation from the Premier League in 2007, despite being owned by a third party.

      Sheffield United, ironically then managed by Warnock, went down instead and lodged a legal challenge that ended with the Hammers owing the Premier League £5.5m for breaking the rules and the Blades £20m in compensation.
      West Ham, however, avoided any points deduction that would have taken them down in Sheffield United's place.

      QPR have led the Championship table since early in the season and have only lost five times in the league.
       
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/q/qpr/9473285.stm

      Not champions just yet.  Really would be ironic if QPR were docked points considering Warnock's involvment in the Tevez affair as well.
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      Reply #32: May 03, 2011 03:09:41 pm
      The FA stopping another London club from making the top flight? Yeah right!
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      Reply #33: May 03, 2011 03:11:44 pm
      I think Norwich will get promoted :)
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      Reply #34: May 03, 2011 05:23:17 pm

      Norwich are confirmed promotion to Premier League next season. QPR ? Waiting for FA decision on point deduction etc. etc.
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      Reply #35: May 03, 2011 05:24:23 pm
      The FA stopping another London club from making the top flight? Yeah right!

      We'll be losing West Ham most likely, so even more initiative to keep QPR on the way up. London already has Fulham, Tottenham, Chelsea, the Arsenal, and Manchester United :D
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      Reply #36: May 03, 2011 06:40:32 pm
      Norwich are confirmed promotion to Premier League next season. QPR ? Waiting for FA decision on point deduction etc. etc.


      I think there may have have a been a hint of sarcasm in LL's post.

      (N.B. There may also be a hint of sarcasm in mine too) ;)
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      Reply #37: May 04, 2011 04:47:11 pm
      Want Forrest to come up purely so i can hate them like my whole family does haha
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      Reply #38: May 04, 2011 05:52:58 pm
      I'm really rooting for Swansea. Birthplace of my grandpa :)
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      Reply #39: May 04, 2011 09:07:04 pm
      The FA stopping another London club from making the top flight? Yeah right!

      Probably get a points reduction, but just enough so they still go up.

      Actually hope they do get a points reduction just to see Colin w**ker explode with rage.

      And this time he can't blame it on Rafa!
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      Reply #40: May 07, 2011 12:03:15 pm
      So no points deduction for QPR this or next season.
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      Reply #41: May 07, 2011 12:36:26 pm
      Guilty on two charges, but nothing done. So basically if you are champions or from London do what you want.
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      Reply #42: May 07, 2011 01:02:46 pm
      The Championship Trophy - It just looks like a proper classy traditional trophy, befitting the champions of English football.

      Unlike the Premier League monstrosity
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      Reply #43: May 07, 2011 01:05:07 pm
      I think QPR deserve to go up really, I try and follow the championship alot and watch the football league show every week, seen them(QPR)play a few times on sky aswell and they play good football and have some real quality, still hate Warnock though. Norwich will do better in PL though for me, very impressed with Paul Lambert.
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      Reply #44: May 07, 2011 02:52:39 pm
      I think QPR deserve to go up really, I try and follow the championship alot and watch the football league show every week, seen them(QPR)play a few times on sky aswell and they play good football and have some real quality, still hate Warnock though. Norwich will do better in PL though for me, very impressed with Paul Lambert.

      QPR, Norwich up.

      Swansea, Cardiff, Reading, Nott'm Forest to fight for last place.

      Love to see swansea or cardiff up.

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      Reply #45: May 07, 2011 09:50:14 pm
      Use Imageshack !

      Don't care now Leeds have failed, I can't stand them !
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      Reply #46: May 08, 2011 12:19:25 am
      Lot of our older fans still hate Forest too.

      Would like to see Cardiff go up but they have a recent history of shooting themselves in the foot, Swansea are dodgy away from home so I think Reading may sneak it.
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      Reply #47: May 08, 2011 12:41:13 am
      It"s great to see QPR go up,i have a load of first cousins in shepherds bush and when i was a young lad visiting my uncles house he would bring me down loftus road to see some games ,i never got to see liverpool play there ,but now i can seems that i can stay on the uxbridge rd for free ,yippee.
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      Reply #48: May 08, 2011 02:31:30 am
      Seeing as they bossed the division, it would have been very harsh on the players had the FA gone for a points deduction, but they did hand a 10 point deduction to Luton for the same charge (illegal payment to agent) so surely that set a precedent and QPR should have received a similar punishment.

      Being Welsh, I want Cardiff or Swansea to go up, but it looks like the wheels have come off Cardiff's campaign recently.  As long as it's not Forest, I'm not too fussed.
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      Reply #49: May 08, 2011 09:34:56 am
      Would like to see Cardiff go up ....

      Cardiff have a lot of 'hooligans' who follow them for a club of their size. Always dread them playing Stoke because it always kicks off in town around here.
      Out of that lot, think I'd rather The Swans came up.
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      Reply #50: May 08, 2011 09:37:42 am
      Would love to see Forest up and see them singing songs about winning in Europe to Chelsea
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      Reply #51: May 08, 2011 11:01:59 am
      Would love to see Forest up and see them singing songs about winning in Europe to Chelsea

      Ha ha  :lmao: Forest for me too....not far for me to go either  ;)
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      Reply #52: May 08, 2011 12:06:34 pm
      Would love to see Forest up and see them singing songs about winning in Europe to Chelsea

      You've just helped me pick who I'm supporting for the play-offs :lmao:
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      Reply #53: May 08, 2011 12:17:35 pm
      Forest for me too. 
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      Reply #54: May 08, 2011 01:10:13 pm
      Cardiff have a lot of 'hooligans' who follow them for a club of their size. Always dread them playing Stoke because it always kicks off in town around here.
      Out of that lot, think I'd rather The Swans came up.

      So do Stoke City mate and Swansea for that matter!

      Said on page 1 it'll be the scabs along with Norwich and QPR.

      "We all hate scabs and scabs and scabs."

      Good times.

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