Jamie Redknapp - Four, Four, Two Magazine

I see all these Judas chants directed at Jamie Redknapp for some of the comments he says on the TV, but pay little attention.  Just reading the latest edition of FourFourTwo, where Jamie has picked his perfect 11 and it doesn't include one single Liverpool Player.  Every month I see some biased inclusions, who I didn't rate. But not one Liverpool player.......Seriously. 

And to top it all, his chosen Manager Old whiskey drinking red nose Manc.

Team is

Schmeichel
G Neville
Adams
Terry
Cole

C Ronaldo
Scholes
Vieira
Giggs

T Henry
Shearer

Subs. Lampard,Roy Keane, Bruce, Zola & Cantona.

PS. Good write up about John Henry, Suarez & Carroll

How you can't include Steven Gerrard as one of the best CM in the past decade in the premiership is beyond me.

Redknapp fuckign bewilderes me sometimes.

Lost a hell of a lot of respect for Jamie a long time ago, some of the tripe he spouts about us really pees me off. I really liked him as a player and was gutted for him with all the injuries but now I just think Wan ker.

Anyone in there right mind would have Stevie G in any all time Prem 11, just ask Zidane, Mourinho, Dalglish etc and as for putting Vieira or Scholes ahead of him 

To me he's just another face of Sky and is possibly one of the worst pundits on telly right now. He's the classic pundit who just jumps on whatever bandwagon is going and has no tactical nous or real knowledge.

He's also boring as F**k.

Gerrard? Hyypia? Carra? Barnes?

It's his opinion.

He has chosen a strong 11, all 11 players in there are argueably the best the prem has seen, even if there are no liverpool players in there.

Im suprised at gerrards absence myself because in my opinion he is a better footballer than both vieira and scholes, however they have league titles to their name whilst stevie doesn't and thats what many people look at unfortunately! If liverpool had won the league a handfull of times this past decade then its guranteed not only will people say gerrard has been the best midfielder of his generation but maybe of all time as well. Its stupid but it's true!

As for carragher and Sami, in my opinion both aren't the best the premiership have seen. Both have been awesome for us but there have been better defenders in the prem during their time.

Anyway, I like Redknapp personally, maybe biased because he was a hero growing up and one of my favourite players, but I always think he speaks honestly which I respect him for, whether I agree with it or not.

Pundits like Gray for example, clearly have it in for LFC due to their past connections and they are the ones I cannot stand. Redknapp for me just speaks his honest opinion. 

Jamie is a c**t, his father is a c**t.

Yawn, Jamie Redknapp and 442 magazine in arselicking mancs and arsenal shocker.

How some defend the :tosser:is beyond me?
Any way, let him drivel on. His opinion is no more valid than a Keys/Gray discussion.
Orally spoken sh*te. 

He is trying to please all, and not look biased towards us I think.

But I caught him on sky doing one of our games, and he was saying us a few times. .

And i should be annoyed why..............?

These 'Dream Team' articles are a load of bollocks anyway.

I detest Redknapp - he is no better than Andy Grey - lowlife scum

He picked his best Premiership 11 in this month's Sky magazine as well, and Gerrard was in it.  Strange.

Liked him as a player but have no time for him as a 'pundit'.  Him and his Da are Sky media whores and they're both getting tiresome.

Liked him as a player but have no time for him as a 'pundit'.  Him and his Da are Sky media whores and they're both getting tiresome.

Exactly! He is such a 'yes man' it's unreal. His opinion changes as often as the wind.

Exactly! He is such a 'yes man' it's unreal. His opinion changes as often as the wind.

Don't be mad. He doesn't have an opinion. He wakes up in the morning. Watches ssn. Boom opinion inputed

A full 8 out the 16 are man u players and if that wasn't enough he throws in tw*t-face to manage them. Trying waaaay too hard not to be bias. sky through and through.

Cockney interbred !.

Can't believe Steve didn't even make the bench but Fat Frank did.

Can't believe Steve didn't even make the bench but Fat Frank did.

Well they are cousins.

What the hell?

A Steven Gerrard who has been probably consistent from 1999-2009 does not make the bench?

Dunno what the big deal is? Just because he didn't think Gerrard in the premier XI should he really get this abuse. He got similar abuse when he said Torres was not trying and in fact he was right.

I'm sure if you ask 100 non-biased fans quite a few would not put Gerrard in the premier league XI

A lot of United players are in this team, to many actually but they have been the best team by far in the premier league era so in truth they should have more players in the team.

I would say Gerrard is ahead of Scholes but we're biased as Liverpool fans. I'm sure United fans would say the same about Scholes.

Don't think he should get this must hatred just for thinking Scholes has been better then Gerrard.

As many have said, it is his own opinion. Not everyone is the same do i am not really concerned about his feelings.

Much as I hate to say it you can't knock the choice of Manager though because the whiskey nosed F**k just keeps pullin it off.

 

Referring to my post earlier about Redknapp's other Premiership XI in the latest Skysports magazine, I dug it out of the bin as I'd a feeling that team was completely different to this one. 

Schmeichel
G Neville
Adams
Campbell
Cole

Beckham
Keane
Gerrard
Giggs

Henry
Shearer

With Ferguson as manager and quoted as ''my perfect Premier League XI''.  He doesn't have an opinion of his own, its influenced by others just like it is depending on who he's sitting beside in the Sky studio.  No doubt it was influenced by whoever he was doing these lists with as well.

If FourFourTwo asked me I would be biased but I'd pick:

                        Reina

   Finnan     Carragher  Hyypia   Riise

    Messi        Gerrard    Alonso   Duff

                   Keane     Fowler

The only real surprise for me is that he hasn't included his fat cousin in the starting line up.

Not really bothered what Jamie Redknapp has to say about football as he is one of the many clueless, bandwagon jumping, so called experts currently working in the media today.

Thought I was going to stumble upon a first and read something meaningful from Jamie Redknapp.

I'm still waiting.

How you can't include Steven Gerrard as one of the best CM in the past decade in the premiership is beyond me.

Redknapp fuckign bewilderes me sometimes.

except which of the 4 quoted midfielders is he actually better than? ronaldo and giggs are clearly better wide players than SG, viera is better defensively and scholes is a better passer. granted stevie is a better all-rounder than any of them but that doesn't mean he is a better choice for a team...in fact, i often think he shouldn't even be in our team.

except which of the 4 quoted midfielders is he actually better than? ronaldo and giggs are clearly better wide players than SG, viera is better defensively and scholes is a better passer. granted stevie is a better all-rounder than any of them but that doesn't mean he is a better choice for a team...in fact, I often think he shouldn't even be in our team.

Manc???

 Just his opinion I guess, but his is one I don't value.

Jamie, did you not play along side God??? Louise must have screwed his brains out, literally!

Dunno what the big deal is? Just because he didn't think Gerrard in the premier XI should he really get this abuse. He got similar abuse when he said Torres was not trying and in fact he was right.

I'm sure if you ask 100 non-biased fans quite a few would not put Gerrard in the premier league XI

A lot of United players are in this team, to many actually but they have been the best team by far in the premier league era so in truth they should have more players in the team.

I would say Gerrard is ahead of Scholes but we're biased as Liverpool fans. I'm sure United fans would say the same about Scholes.

Don't think he should get this must hatred just for thinking Scholes has been better then Gerrard.

Its supposed to be his team!

Not the best. His biased choices. When you look through other players they pick lots of team mates, etc.

He just picked a team that neutrals could justify. No bit of his own mind.

I don't see Jamie Redknapp as an ex Liverpool player to take much notice to, really. Never have.

F***ing toss pot this lad. A big mouth cockney F**k.

Redknapp and his dad can just f*ck off. Can't stand either of them,those horrible adverts J has done for that holiday company are vile.What a c*nt. Asslicking manc symperthizer.

Dunno what the big deal is? Just because he didn't think Gerrard in the premier XI should he really get this abuse. He got similar abuse when he said Torres was not trying and in fact he was right.

I'm sure if you ask 100 non-biased fans quite a few would not put Gerrard in the premier league XI

A lot of United players are in this team, to many actually but they have been the best team by far in the premier league era so in truth they should have more players in the team.

I would say Gerrard is ahead of Scholes but we're biased as Liverpool fans. I'm sure United fans would say the same about Scholes.

Don't think he should get this must hatred just for thinking Scholes has been better then Gerrard.

This is LFC forum so we intend to be a bit (too much) biased towards our own players. Who the hell give a f**k of what those scum want to say about scholes?

Since when winning the 5th European cup when everything didn't went our way didn't counted out as the most incredible thing in 2005? Wanted by Madrid, Chelsea and even Scum didn't that count? A midfielder that can attack, score, defend and dictate the whole game still not good enough? How many times did he single-handedly saved Liverpool but yet still no recognition?

My first 11 will be:

                                       Reina

    Finnan             Agger                 Adams            Riise

     Lennon           Alonso             Gerrard            Suarez

                            Henry          Fowler

It's bollocks anyway.

Irwin is the best left back the Premiership has ever seen. Pallister, Bruce, Hyypia, Carra (in their prime) are all streets ahead of Terry.

If you're not picking Gerrard, then the only player who comes close to him in terms of all round ability is Roy Keane - not Vieira. Though I would have Keane and Gerrard ahead of Scholes and Vieira.

Wingers, as out and out wingers I'd say Overmars, McManaman, Ginola are better than Ronaldo who had two outstandingly good seasons at United but was pretty tame other than those two years. The others mentioned had years upon years of solid seasons.

Up top, possibly got it right though being biased I'd say Robbie Fowler should be in the side.

Is it just me but do players who have actually won trophies get an advantage over those who don't?

How you can't include Steven Gerrard as one of the best CM in the past decade in the premiership is beyond me.

You mean the Steven Gerrard who's emergence ended Redknapp's Liverpool career?

Yep.  Surprise he hasn't included him.

"Daddys Gone".....................or nearly will be courtesy of Her Majesty's R and C  and sent to HMP.


Say Bye Bye Daddy    liccle Jamie.

Shame on all idiots making personal attacks on Redknapp. He's Liverpool through and through. He's a pundit so obviously not everyone is going to like what he says. Yes, sometimes he sits on the fence or talks nonsense but who the hell doesn't??? It's only a bloody opinion. Fu**ing grow up!!!!!!

Shame on all idiots making personal attacks on Redknapp. He's Liverpool through and through. He's a pundit so obviously not everyone is going to like what he says. Yes, sometimes he sits on the fence or talks nonsense but who the hell doesn't??? It's only a bloody opinion. Fu**ing grow up!!!!!!

Sitting on the fence isn't an opinion.

Shame on all idiots making personal attacks on Redknapp. He's Liverpool through and through. He's a pundit so obviously not everyone is going to like what he says. Yes, sometimes he sits on the fence or talks nonsense but who the hell doesn't??? It's only a bloody opinion. Fu**ing grow up!!!!!!

I think your missing the point. He should be Liverpool through and through he played for the club allbeit at a below average level. He should show a bit more support in his opion. All I ever see Redknapp do is the same as that other tool Mark "talkshite" Lawrenson, all they do is pile critisism at our door without any justification, and they obviously dont put their brains in gear before they heap some of their hurtful remarks our way.

To be honest I sincerely believe Stan "Dogger" Collymore has more integrity than Redknapp, at least he tries to be somewhat objective and cant hide his disapointment when we f u c k up. I dont think people are idiots for making personal attacks on the man he deserves it as your opion is wrong he is not Liverpool through and through at all. He always wished he had played for Man Utd, and the justification for that is the way he heaps praise on old whiskey nose. As for your remarks about nonsense! yes I agree we can all do that ( i do it in droves when Ive had a bottle of wine) but you only state sometimes? I really have yet here anything come out of his mouth that make sense to be honest, in more that one half time pundit orgy, he has contradicted himself and I will never forget the famous one about Rafa doesnt care about the Premier League he is more interested in Europe!!

Yeah I know its only an opion but he should be more objective, try and validate his points, use some truthful statistics (if there is such a thing) and not be so manc biased. But having said that are we ever gonna get a break from anyone! In my opion he is just a cynical self serving, self promoting idiot like most people in football and doesnt like the most pro or ex pro people in the game "GIVE A FLYING F U C K" about the fans and the people who pay good money to watch average exe players like him.

Would Phil Thompson or John Aldridge do this?? Would any real Liverpool fan do this?

Wonder if Redknapp will be happy to know he was left out of Jason McAteer's 90s Dream Team. Instead McAteer opted for Ronnie Whelan and Michael Thomas.

Shame on all idiots making personal attacks on Redknapp. He's Liverpool through and through.

I seriously doubt that!

People like Kenny Dalglish, Ian Rush, David Fairclough are Liverpool through and through not the likes of Jamie Redknapp.

I think Jamie Redknapp's just a bit of an idiot really. I personally don't have a clue how he gets punditry work. He is clearly not learned enough on the game. People like Gareth Southgate, Lee Dixon and Alan Hansen are all proper pundits but I think people like Redknapp make a great case for not allowing ex footballers as pundits.

The likes of Southgate, Dixon and Hansen clearly have tactical knowledge of the game whereas Redknapp's tactical knowledge extends about as far as what game he should play next on his F***ing Wii.

Redknapp's tactical knowledge extends about as far as what game he should play next on his f**king Wii.

His missus and kids probably beat him on the Wii as well

Stupid cock that is Redknapp didn't even put Bergkamp in his team. Cock.

Couldnt give a toss about what he thinks.

Couldnt give a toss about what he thinks.

Agreed.  The man is an idiot.

Can't stand Jamie "literally" Redknapps punditry, gets on my tits. All he does is latch on to certain players.

Its all sweeping statements and repeated cliche with him.

seems to me people dont like much here if they dont agre with it. now do you want a team of players in on merit or one that includes lfc players. without doubt gerrard is the only possible LFC players that warrants a place. personally with a hint of bias id have him & keane in the centre, but when push comes to shove & honesty takes over i might go for PV. that said seeing as im happy with either & i actually think gerrard gives a different option alongside keane then its gerrard for me. no other LFC player warrants a place.

so its up to you either dont call it the best prem 11 & call it what i think is as long as its contains lfc players or dont. to say the likes of risse, finnan, pepe, fowler & did i read right suarez & agger would make the side is unbelievable. we should be debating how do you chose from drogba, RVN, shearer, henry, bergkamp & the likes if its about THE BEST. if its not then why the fuss.

for the record its very hard to choose & up top especially.

bacon face

notevenputtoingthatnamei n........rio.........sta m...............irwin
ronaldo..........keane.. ........gerrard......... ......giggs
....................berg kamp.......henry

& lets not concentrate on LFC players on particualr not making that 11 - look at it & there are huge players missing. so hard to do

It's a team of your favourite players, people you like that were good etc, not really based on merit.

seems to me people dont like much here if they dont agre with it. now do you want a team of players in on merit or one that includes lfc players. without doubt gerrard is the only possible LFC players that warrants a place. personally with a hint of bias id have him & keane in the centre, but when push comes to shove & honesty takes over i might go for PV. that said seeing as im happy with either & i actually think gerrard gives a different option alongside keane then its gerrard for me. no other LFC player warrants a place.

so its up to you either dont call it the best prem 11 & call it what i think is as long as its contains lfc players or dont. to say the likes of risse, finnan, pepe, fowler & did i read right suarez & agger would make the side is unbelievable. we should be debating how do you chose from drogba, RVN, shearer, henry, bergkamp & the likes if its about THE BEST. if its not then why the fuss.

for the record its very hard to choose & up top especially.

bacon face

notevenputtoingthatnamei n........rio.........sta m...............irwin
ronaldo..........keane.. ........gerrard......... ......giggs
....................berg kamp.......henry

& lets not concentrate on LFC players on particualr not making that 11 - look at it & there are huge players missing. so hard to do

Alright Carroll9. Still believing that Ferdinand and Stam are better than Pallister, Bruce, Adams, Keown, Carragher and Hyypia I see. What a load of F***ing bollocks. Even without being biased, Ferdinand and Stam wouldn't get near the best Premiership XI. Pallister and Bruce sh*t all over them every day of the week. And how you can have a best Premiership XI without the all time leading scorer - Alan Shearer - in is beyond me.

And I'm not even gonna debate no other Liverpool players warranting a place, because that's just an idiotic statement.

It's a team of your favourite players, people you like that were good etc, not really based on merit.

oh right - thats different then. i'll base that on different criterea. thinking more of purple patches than players over time. i'll have alonso & pepe in then

Alright Carroll9. Still believing that Ferdinand and Stam are better than Pallister, Bruce, Adams, Keown, Carragher and Hyypia I see. What a load of f**king bollocks. Even without being biased, Ferdinand and Stam wouldn't get near the best Premiership XI. Pallister and Bruce sh*t all over them every day of the week. And how you can have a best Premiership XI without the all time leading scorer - Alan Shearer - in is beyond me.

And I'm not even gonna debate no other Liverpool players warranting a place, because that's just an idiotic statement.

ohhhhh, gets you - flashing your handbag

I take it you think im someone else for starters for your own para reasons? carol9?? not me old chap


pallister was considered from the list you throw up as was adams & keown with adams very close to being in. but thats just an opinion & id have any of those & be happy. if you want to dismiss stam & rio & others thats up to you. but you are that deluded that you think hyppia & carra should be in... what a joker

straight pick for me between henry & shearer - I actually put shearer down first & changed my mind as lets face it henry was that much better an overall footballer & indeed his record of 174 in 254 for arsenal is actually much, much better than shearers 148 in 303 for newcastle(we will use later clubs as both in same era) - but you can dismiss that if you like. I also pondered having shearer & henry but how can you leave out dennis?

you tell me what other liverpool players would get in & we will chat, if you dont want to cos you know im right then we wont. no skin off my nose old boy

ohhhhh, gets you - flashing your handbag

I take it you think im someone else for starters for your own para reasons? carol9?? not me old chap


pallister was considered from the list you throw up as was adams & keown with adams very close to being in. but thats just an opinion & id have any of those & be happy. if you want to dismiss stam & rio & others thats up to you. but you are that deluded that you think hyppia & carra should be in... what a joker

straight pick for me between henry & shearer - I actually put shearer down first & changed my mind as lets face it henry was that much better an overall footballer & indeed his record of 174 in 254 for arsenal is actually much, much better than shearers 148 in 303 for newcastle(we will use later clubs as both in same era) - but you can dismiss that if you like. I also pondered having shearer & henry but how can you leave out dennis?

you tell me what other liverpool players would get in & we will chat, if you dont want to cos you know im right then we wont. no skin off my nose old boy

Yes I do believe Sami or Carra should be in, though that was not what was said if you had the ability to read. What was quite clearly said was that neither Ferdinand or Stam are better than those two. If we're picking a Premiership XI (which has been done many a time on this forum in this thread http://www.lfcreds.com/reds/index.php?topic=23010.60#quickreply) then I would include Sami and Carra, but you're leaving out the best centre halves to fit in two vastly overrated centre halves. In other words - idiotic.

As for Henry being a better all round forward than Shearer - once again an idiotic statement. Shearer was stronger, better in the air and a better natural finisher. Henry was quicker, more skillful and scored more spectacular goals. Shearer's record speaks for itself though. And how leave Bergkamp out? Well quite easily really.

Other Liverpool players - Reina could be argued though it wouldn't last too long as Schmichael is the best keeper. Rob Jones, possibly the best right back in the Premiership only for injuries to F**k him up. McManaman, one of the best out and out wingers. Fowler, best goalscorer ever in the history of the League. Owen, in his prime was F***ing frighteningly good but injuries fu**ed him over. Torres again injuries took their toll but breaking records left right and centre when he first arrived - including those of Henry, Bergkamp, Van Nistlerooy, Hasslebaink and any other foreign c**t. Alonso, possibly the best passer of a ball the Premiership has ever seen.

So it's quite obvious that quite a few Liverpool players could be argued to be in the side. But it's all a matter of opinion. There's only 3 players who should be in every Premiership XI - Schmichael being the best keeper, Irwin being the best left back hands down with very little competition and Shearer being the best centre forward to play in the Premiership.

Yes I do believe Sami or Carra should be in, though that was not what was said if you had the ability to read. What was quite clearly said was that neither Ferdinand or Stam are better than those two. If we're picking a Premiership XI (which has been done many a time on this forum in this thread http://www.lfcreds.com/reds/index.php?topic=23010.60#quickreply) then I would include Sami and Carra, but you're leaving out the best centre halves to fit in two vastly overrated centre halves. In other words - idiotic.

As for Henry being a better all round forward than Shearer - once again an idiotic statement. Shearer was stronger, better in the air and a better natural finisher. Henry was quicker, more skillful and scored more spectacular goals. Shearer's record speaks for itself though. And how leave Bergkamp out? Well quite easily really.

Other Liverpool players - Reina could be argued though it wouldn't last too long as Schmichael is the best keeper. Rob Jones, possibly the best right back in the Premiership only for injuries to f**k him up. McManaman, one of the best out and out wingers. Fowler, best goalscorer ever in the history of the League. Owen, in his prime was f**king frighteningly good but injuries fu**ed him over. Torres again injuries took their toll but breaking records left right and centre when he first arrived - including those of Henry, Bergkamp, Van Nistlerooy, Hasslebaink and any other foreign c**t. Alonso, possibly the best passer of a ball the Premiership has ever seen.

So it's quite obvious that quite a few Liverpool players could be argued to be in the side. But it's all a matter of opinion. There's only 3 players who should be in every Premiership XI - Schmichael being the best keeper, Irwin being the best left back hands down with very little competition and Shearer being the best centre forward to play in the Premiership.

Your full of it arnt you & yourself. Funny to me though so carry on, great reading (albeit that i cant read – something for some reason you need to point out, make you feel better does it?) The fact you named carra & hyppia above my choice suggests to me that yes perhaps you might include... not to hard to fathom is it

You think they are over rated, fine you have your opinion, im ok with that. Its not fact though. Your the idiot for suggesting otherwise


Hah – do you even grasp what i meant about henry & what an all round striker is. Obviously not or you wouldn’t have made that comment. & i did give you back up stats to show henry had a far better goalscoring record when both were playing against same oppo ( you not like that fact eh? Your opinions worth far more eh?)

You think its easier to leave bergkamp out? Ok then – im not saying he is a show in but lets think shall we. You has had more craft, skill & guile than him in that position? Others could be argues of course but to say its easy is folly.

You say rienna – i say font be silly
You say rob jones & cite an injury. Derrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Macca yes good yes but not a gigs or ronaldo for example. But not a bad shout. Not in anyone apart from a few blind LFC fans team would he be in
Fowler – obviously iconic & a terrific finisher in his prime, but far from the best
Id considered Alonso & torres but alas they arnt there.

Irwin ever considered the best left back in the world? Cole is. Some would argue that. PS is id say there – a shoe in. Shearer? I think iv e made a case for a no. Opinions eh?

I didn’t say none should be considered (& you say its me that cant read – irony as well – i love you) but lets be honest only gerrard really warrants a place. Now go back to the team of the 80’s & then you can have your glory.


One thing, you seem to be a bitter, blind 50 year old hellbent on leaving in the past – yet something tells me your not even 20 & prob not working? Indeed im sure ive seen that you have posted whens games have been on? Just an observation. Not intended to offend. & it wouldn’t have been asked if you hadn’t replied in your own special way

One thing, you seem to be a bitter, blind 50 year old hellbent on leaving in the past – yet something tells me your not even 20 & prob not working? Indeed im sure ive seen that you have posted whens games have been on? Just an observation. Not intended to offend. & it wouldn’t have been asked if you hadn’t replied in your own special way

Actually DLS is only about 19 or 20 and just knows his sh*t.

I love the way in the other stuff you mention Giggs and ronaldo to match Macca, yet no mention of one of the greatest wingers to ever grace a football field in England - our very own John Barnes, a true winger and one of the best dribblers of the ball I've ever seen and far better than that kick and rush merchant Giggs and that other show pony Ronaldo.

Oh and meybe some of us want to live in the past because having watched football for the past 35/30 years I'd say there maybe more pace in the game but actual control of a football and passing is a lot worse these days than when I grew up as a kid watching the game.

And in your team, I would of had Rob Jones at right back, a far better full back than Neville ever was, ask Giggs (or the new George Best, as he was called them days) who Jones had in his pocket the whole game at Old Trafford on his debut for Liverpool.

John Barnes > Messi.

Your full of it arnt you & yourself. Funny to me though so carry on, great reading (albeit that i cant read – something for some reason you need to point out, make you feel better does it?) The fact you named carra & hyppia above my choice suggests to me that yes perhaps you might include... not to hard to fathom is it

You think they are over rated, fine you have your opinion, im ok with that. Its not fact though. Your the idiot for suggesting otherwise


Hah – do you even grasp what i meant about henry & what an all round striker is. Obviously not or you wouldn’t have made that comment. & i did give you back up stats to show henry had a far better goalscoring record when both were playing against same oppo ( you not like that fact eh? Your opinions worth far more eh?)

You think its easier to leave bergkamp out? Ok then – im not saying he is a show in but lets think shall we. You has had more craft, skill & guile than him in that position? Others could be argues of course but to say its easy is folly.

You say rienna – i say font be silly
You say rob jones & cite an injury. Derrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Macca yes good yes but not a gigs or ronaldo for example. But not a bad shout. Not in anyone apart from a few blind LFC fans team would he be in
Fowler – obviously iconic & a terrific finisher in his prime, but far from the best
Id considered Alonso & torres but alas they arnt there.

Irwin ever considered the best left back in the world? Cole is. Some would argue that. PS is id say there – a shoe in. Shearer? I think iv e made a case for a no. Opinions eh?

I didn’t say none should be considered (& you say its me that cant read – irony as well – i love you) but lets be honest only gerrard really warrants a place. Now go back to the team of the 80’s & then you can have your glory.


One thing, you seem to be a bitter, blind 50 year old hellbent on leaving in the past – yet something tells me your not even 20 & prob not working? Indeed im sure ive seen that you have posted whens games have been on? Just an observation. Not intended to offend. & it wouldn’t have been asked if you hadn’t replied in your own special way

Henry and Shearer - Shearer hands down. Simple as. Though if I wasn't being biased towards me favourite ever player - Robbie Fowler - I'd have both Shearer and Henry in.

As for Irwin being described the best left back, considering he played at a time when Lizarazu, Maldini, Carlos were all in their primes compared to Cole who's competition is Evra, Abidal, Clichy, Capdevila, Zambrotta. Hardly a surprise Irwin never received the global attention he deserved but this is about the best left back in the Premiership, not the world and Denis Irwin is a much better full back than Ashley Cole will ever be.

And yes it is easy to leave Bergkamp out. Same way it's easy to leave out other players of a similar ilk - Zola, Le Tissier, Gudjohnsen, Rooney. Those clever forwards who drop off, it's quite easy to leave them out. After growing up watching plenty of videos of Kevin Keegan and Kenny Dalglish, the modern day players fail in comparison.

Did I say you said none should be considered? Again proving your inability to read. Good lad.

For your information I'm 20, enjoying a few days off work and have an uncanny knack of convincing people I'm a lot older than my years. Might have something to do with my love for 50s and 60s music, war time comics and the fact that I'm clued up on pretty much anything to do with Liverpool Football Club from 1892 to the modern day. What that has to do with anything though, I have no F***ing idea. And I probably have posted on here during matches as unfortunately I don't manage to attend all games. However I do wonder how you've seen me post during games considering you only registered on this forum on the 12th (Tuesday) and we haven't played during that time. Maybe you've just shown yourself up to be Carroll9 eh soft sh*te?

Actually DLS is only about 19 or 20 and just knows his sh*t.

I love the way in the other stuff you mention Giggs and ronaldo to match Macca, yet no mention of one of the greatest wingers to ever grace a football field in England - our very own John Barnes, a true winger and one of the best dribblers of the ball I've ever seen and far better than that kick and rush merchant Giggs and that other show pony Ronaldo.

err no he has an opinion that he thrusts upon others. i agree with some things he says & not others. you think everything is gospel he says then more fool you

what? john barnes - fantastic players for us, but dont be blinkered. you really think barnes was better than giggs & ronaldo? again thats your opinion

Actually DLS is only about 19 or 20

thats actually what i thought... backs up my thoughts to a tee. thanks

Oh and meybe some of us want to live in the past because having watched football for the past 35/30 years I'd say there maybe more pace in the game but actual control of a football and passing is a lot worse these days than when I grew up as a kid watching the game.

And in your team, I would of had Rob Jones at right back, a far better full back than Neville ever was, ask Giggs (or the new George Best, as he was called them days) who Jones had in his pocket the whole game at Old Trafford on his debut for Liverpool.

oh i loved the past - the glory days, when we were truely kings. i wathced it all & have such great memories (well up until thomas did that shat on us!) but we arnt in the past anymore & i dont support a history book

only picked that sh*t as to me he was around in such a great team (and was a mainstay for such along time) jones had bags & yes looked very, very good at time, but circumstances didnt help. oh so its ok to take the word of giggs on that then

& no bias from here there eh? fellow people & all that

Henry and Shearer - Shearer hands down. Simple as. Though if I wasn't being biased towards me favourite ever player - Robbie Fowler - I'd have both Shearer and Henry in.

henry so much better on & off the ball & as a flair player than shearer creating for others as well as himself imo

but as they are strikers & are judged on goals shall we have some facts for you to dismiss?

henry 174 in 254 for arsenal
shearer 148 in 303 for newcastle

stats from the same kind of era. so whos the best striker ?

As for Irwin being described the best left back, considering he played at a time when Lizarazu, Maldini, Carlos were all in their primes compared to Cole who's competition is Evra, Abidal, Clichy, Capdevila, Zambrotta. Hardly a surprise Irwin never received the global attention he deserved but this is about the best left back in the Premiership, not the world and Denis Irwin is a much better full back than Ashley Cole will ever be.

some very valid points if if you look i had irwin in my side. dont dismiss cole though. guess what? you be saying he was the worlds best ever if he was an LFC player


you know you would

And yes it is easy to leave Bergkamp out. Same way it's easy to leave out other players of a similar ilk - Zola, Le Tissier, Gudjohnsen, Rooney. Those clever forwards who drop off, it's quite easy to leave them out. After growing up watching plenty of videos of Kevin Keegan and Kenny Dalglish, the modern day players fail in comparison.

Did I say you said none should be considered? Again proving your inability to read. Good lad.

i dont think its easy to leave any of those out & all stake a claim. thats kind of the point (over your head obviously)

& when did i say you said none should be considered unless you have been dismissive? its you with the reading difficulty "soft lad"


your so biased its funny - kenny was awesome but to say modern players fail in comparrison is daft, just daft

& dunlop -  I grew up watching those players like kenny, keegan & later barnes etc live, not on a fukking betatmax!

For your information I'm 20, enjoying a few days off work and have an uncanny knack of convincing people I'm a lot older than my years. Might have something to do with my love for 50s and 60s music, war time comics and the fact that I'm clued up on pretty much anything to do with Liverpool Football Club from 1892 to the modern day. What that has to do with anything though, I have no f**king idea. And I probably have posted on here during matches as unfortunately I don't manage to attend all games. However I do wonder how you've seen me post during games considering you only registered on this forum on the 12th (Tuesday) and we haven't played during that time. Maybe you've just shown yourself up to be Carroll9 eh soft sh*te?

thought so, you do come across like a 20 year old before their time, already set in their ways & thinking they know it all.

derrrr, you dont for one second think i might have been reading for a while before posting or even signing up.... derrr never. have a think

ive never been anyone else here, the mods or whoever can proce that, they can check whatever.


you live in your own little world & enjoy

 Consecutive posting and posting like a child. Pack it in.

I think your missing the point. He should be Liverpool through and through he played for the club allbeit at a below average level. He should show a bit more support in his opion. All I ever see Redknapp do is the same as that other tool Mark "talkshite" Lawrenson, all they do is pile critisism at our door without any justification, and they obviously dont put their brains in gear before they heap some of their hurtful remarks our way.

To be honest I sincerely believe Stan "Dogger" Collymore has more integrity than Redknapp, at least he tries to be somewhat objective and cant hide his disapointment when we f u c k up. I dont think people are idiots for making personal attacks on the man he deserves it as your opion is wrong he is not Liverpool through and through at all. He always wished he had played for Man Utd, and the justification for that is the way he heaps praise on old whiskey nose. As for your remarks about nonsense! yes I agree we can all do that ( I do it in droves when Ive had a bottle of wine) but you only state sometimes? I really have yet here anything come out of his mouth that make sense to be honest, in more that one half time pundit orgy, he has contradicted himself and I will never forget the famous one about Rafa doesnt care about the Premier League he is more interested in Europe!!

Yeah I know its only an opion but he should be more objective, try and validate his points, use some truthful statistics (if there is such a thing) and not be so manc biased. But having said that are we ever gonna get a break from anyone! In my opion he is just a cynical self serving, self promoting idiot like most people in football and doesnt like the most pro or ex pro people in the game "GIVE A FLYING F U C K" about the fans and the people who pay good money to watch average exe players like him.

Some good points there I will agree with you. I just felt a lot of the personal criticisim was harsh. But as you said, most of the time we talk nonsense so i was probably doing that!!!

henry so much better on & off the ball & as a flair player than shearer creating for others as well as himself imo

but as they are strikers & are judged on goals shall we have some facts for you to dismiss?

henry 174 in 254 for arsenal
shearer 148 in 303 for newcastle

stats from the same kind of era. so whos the best striker ?

Shearer. End of.

some very valid points if if you look i had irwin in my side. dont dismiss cole though. guess what? you be saying he was the worlds best ever if he was an LFC player


you know you would

Actually I wouldn't. And his club has nothing to do with it, I hate United more than either Arsenal or Chelsea yet still rate Irwin head and shoulders above Cole. Cole, in my opinion, is vastly overrated. And as a full back I want a defender, Irwin shits over Cole in that department. Irwin, going forward was much more productive than Cole as well.


i dont think its easy to leave any of those out & all stake a claim. thats kind of the point (over your head obviously)

& when did i say you said none should be considered unless you have been dismissive? its you with the reading difficulty "soft lad"


your so biased its funny - kenny was awesome but to say modern players fail in comparrison is daft, just daft

No it is quite easy to leave them out. And they do fail in comparison to Kenny. There hasn't been a forward like Kenny on these shores who could hold a torch to him. Fact.


& dunlop -  I grew up watching those players like kenny, keegan & later barnes etc live, not on a fukking betatmax!

Congratulations. So did me arl fella, what's your point?


thought so, you do come across like a 20 year old before their time, already set in their ways & thinking they know it all.

derrrr, you dont for one second think i might have been reading for a while before posting or even signing up.... derrr never. have a think

ive never been anyone else here, the mods or whoever can proce that, they can check whatever.


you live in your own little world & enjoy

No I don't think you've been reading the forum beforehand. If you had, you'd of known my age as it's pointed out many times. Also I don't see why you'd register a matter of hours after Fowler_is_God (Carroll9's first attempt of a new name) was last on the forum.

And I am set in my ways because my ways are correct. And when it comes to Liverpool Football Club, I generally do know it all. Have a look under me name, quiz champion. Kinda gives a massive clue that I know me stuff. Have a think eh soft lad?

By the way, what part of Liverpool are you from? And I mean Liverpool, not just somewhere that has an L postcode because that can be misleading.

I love JR :O