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      heimdall
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5760: Sep 16, 2018 05:00:23 pm
      Look Scotia, I am not trolling for having a different opinion.
      We have been over this before.

      I don't think these forum bullies understand trolling, perhaps they just need their safe space ;-)
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5761: Sep 16, 2018 05:04:34 pm
      That is quite interesting but the stat would probably be similar for any DM coming on in the 70th minute with the team defending a lead, ie its more likely then that the team concede than score any more.

      It’s also clearly wrong
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5762: Sep 16, 2018 05:11:48 pm
      Guys, the ignore feature is good for your mental health. Take it from me. Some folks only post on here to get attention, negative or otherwise. The ignore function eliminates feeding their attention hunger. The trolls will eventually go away if we don’t feed them.

      I will never ignore you, FL Red, how can I ignore a fellow Rian Johnson/TLJ hater?! <3
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5763: Sep 16, 2018 05:56:11 pm
      I rechecked and you are right, it is +2. I did not label binary columns which caused some calculation error in my data collection, schoolboy error from rushing.
      I suspect that his team mates are higher than +2 though, I can't be bothered to go and fix the spreadsheet.
      I was using WEKA to calculate and rushing, if I get time next week I will go through it again. It could take me a couple of hours if doing it carefully, so I am not sure it is really worth it.
      I apologize the data got fudged due to me doing a 2 hour job in 30 minutes though.

      A f**king 2 hour job to look up a few results and who was playing?
       :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5764: Sep 16, 2018 05:57:17 pm
      I rechecked and you are right, it is +2. I did not label binary columns which caused some calculation error in my data collection, schoolboy error from rushing.
      I suspect that his team mates are higher than +2 though, I can't be bothered to go and fix the spreadsheet.
      I was using WEKA to calculate and rushing, if I get time next week I will go through it again. It could take me a couple of hours if doing it carefully, so I am not sure it is really worth it.
      I apologize the data got fudged due to me doing a 2 hour job in 30 minutes though.

      you don't get it do you. You started out with the intention of proving a negative to support your weirdness about Jordan Why would you spend a couple of hours on this wtf is wrong with you infact why would anyone spend 30 mins on it.Get a life
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5765: Sep 16, 2018 06:07:12 pm
      Ribapuru you talk some pish ye wankpuffin.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5766: Sep 16, 2018 06:10:01 pm
      I rechecked and you are right, it is +2. I did not label binary columns which caused some calculation error in my data collection, schoolboy error from rushing.
      I suspect that his team mates are higher than +2 though, I can't be bothered to go and fix the spreadsheet.
      I was using WEKA to calculate and rushing, if I get time next week I will go through it again. It could take me a couple of hours if doing it carefully, so I am not sure it is really worth it.
      I apologize the data got fudged due to me doing a 2 hour job in 30 minutes though.

      Were you getting your stats via carrier pigeon?
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5767: Sep 16, 2018 06:15:21 pm
      Ribapuru you talk some pish ye wankpuffin.

      Oi shouldn't you be horizontal jogging
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5768: Sep 16, 2018 06:25:02 pm
      It is funny seeing all these Hendonites who were clutching at something, anything! just to validate his place in first 11.
      I cocked up with the data, yes I can admit to that...
      However, all you guys have is insults.... probably venting off anger because real life problems.
      Vent away... I will be back with some stats in the future when I get time and next time I will be careful not to mess them up.
      Mags and Scotia are probably the worst, wouldn't surprise me in the least if they had Henderson face tattoos on their chests.
      The fact is I know how to linear regression by data science algorithms.
      Some here just know how to swear at people who don't agree.
      I know who I would rather be.
      « Last Edit: Sep 16, 2018 06:33:30 pm by Ribapuru »
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5769: Sep 16, 2018 06:31:48 pm
      why would anyone spend 30 mins on it.
      You might like to watch a movie on TV, EastEnders or some other reality TV.. I don't know.
      Sometimes I like to write code or manipulate data.
      I won't call you sad because your idea of spending spare time is different from mine.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5770: Sep 16, 2018 06:55:56 pm
      Ribapuru you talk some pish ye wankpuffin.

      Wankpuffin  :lmao:
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      Reply #5771: Sep 16, 2018 07:09:23 pm
      It is funny seeing all these Hendonites who were clutching at something, anything! just to validate his place in first 11.
      I cocked up with the data, yes I can admit to that...
      However, all you guys have is insults.... probably venting off anger because real life problems.
      Vent away... I will be back with some stats in the future when I get time and next time I will be careful not to mess them up.
      Mags and Scotia are probably the worst, wouldn't surprise me in the least if they had Henderson face tattoos on their chests.
      The fact is I know how to linear regression by data science algorithms.
      Some here just know how to swear at people who don't agree.
      I know who I would rather be.

      The most obvious google copy and paste by someone who searched for "statistical analysis" in the history of the internet.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5772: Sep 16, 2018 07:16:00 pm

      I had to look it up and it does exist it means
      "Used to describe a floppy haired idiot with moronic views"
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5773: Sep 16, 2018 07:17:21 pm
      This is like shooting fish in a barrel he just will not accept he has a problem and just keeps digging.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5774: Sep 16, 2018 07:18:41 pm
      The most obvious google copy and paste by someone who searched for "statistical analysis" in the history of the internet.
      That is not true Swab.
      Furthermore, I googled it and it said "No results found for "linear regression by data science algorithms"".
      Try again wankpuffin.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5775: Sep 16, 2018 07:19:46 pm
      Ribapuru you talk some pish ye wankpuffin.
      +1, great insult. I stolen it.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5776: Sep 16, 2018 07:36:09 pm
      It is funny seeing all these Hendonites who were clutching at something, anything! just to validate his place in first 11.
      I cocked up with the data, yes I can admit to that...
      However, all you guys have is insults.... probably venting off anger because real life problems.
      Vent away... I will be back with some stats in the future when I get time and next time I will be careful not to mess them up.
      Mags and Scotia are probably the worst, wouldn't surprise me in the least if they had Henderson face tattoos on their chests.
      The fact is I know how to linear regression by data science algorithms.
      Some here just know how to swear at people who don't agree.
      I know who I would rather be.

      Well I have been asking you to show stats for your claims for years now.

      I am interested to see your take on linear regression since you haven’t done the research I’m not sure you know it’s going to be linear regression at all... but perhaps it’s just your hypothesis. I’m assuming your constant is Henderson and the rest is a mystery. I’d recommend using the least squares method if you know how, seen that used quite a lot for football stats.

      Genuinely looking forward to seeing what you can throw together, but I will be checking so get it right this time
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5777: Sep 16, 2018 07:40:05 pm
      Oi shouldn't you be horizontal jogging

      Haha she was lying sleeping. Had a mad one last night and she can't hack the hangovers

      I'm Sitting on the balcony enjoying the cheap cigarettes and the all inclusive.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5778: Sep 16, 2018 07:47:28 pm
      That is not true Swab.
      Furthermore, I googled it and it said "No results found for "linear regression by data science algorithms"".
      Try again wankpuffin.

      Not only a bullshitter, but a thick as sh*t bullshitter

      https://www.google.com/search?q=linear+regression+by+data+science+algorithms&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5779: Sep 16, 2018 07:53:43 pm
      You forgot to put the quotations you moron.
      "linear regression by data science algorithms" not linear regression by data science algorithms
      Two entirely different searches
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5780: Sep 16, 2018 07:58:04 pm
      You forgot to put the quotations you moron.
      "linear regression by data science algorithms" not linear regression by data science algorithms
      Two entirely different searches

       :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

      F**k me this is priceless.

      Way more entertaining than Sunday night TV.

      Are you over 30 Rib, cos I think your legs have gone  :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5781: Sep 16, 2018 08:17:01 pm
      How long was he on the pitch yesterday,15 minutes? 
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      Reply #5782: Sep 16, 2018 08:42:28 pm
      I cannot be bothered to apply algorithms, I also had to average on the injury time minutes.

      Player   Minutes   Conceeded   Scored   Difference   Minutes per goal
      Alisson   465   2   11   9   51.66666667
      Van Dijk   465   2   11   9   51.66666667
      Gomez   465   2   11   9   51.66666667
      Robertson   465   2   11   9   51.66666667
      Matip     5   1   0   -1   -5
      TAA           458   1   11   10   45.8
      Gini           465   2   11   9   51.66666667
      Milner   437   2   10   8   54.625
      Keita    354   1   10   9   39.33333333
      Hendo   160   1   3   2   80
      Lallana   5   0   1   1   5
      Firmino   420   1   10   9   46.66666667
      Mane    440   2   10   8   55
      Salah    435   1   10   9   48.33333333
      Sturridge   24   0   1   1   24
      Shaqiri   32   0   1   1   32

      Still don't rate him.

       :couch:

      Edit: I reread the data and Henderson is 80 minutes per goal and Kieta 39 minutes per goal etc..
      So actually Henderson feared worse not better.
      Of course, Matip stat is fudgy because dividing by a negative number gets messy.
      « Last Edit: Sep 16, 2018 08:53:43 pm by Ribapuru »
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      Reply #5783: Sep 16, 2018 08:44:10 pm
      I cannot be bothered to apply algorithms, I also had to average on the injury time minutes.
      Henderson came out with best return per minutes with 80 minutes per positive goal.

      Player   Minutes   Conceeded   Scored   Difference   Minutes per goal
      Alisson   465   2   11   9   51.66666667
      Van Dijk   465   2   11   9   51.66666667
      Gomez   465   2   11   9   51.66666667
      Robertson   465   2   11   9   51.66666667
      Matip     5   1   0   -1   -5
      TAA           458   1   11   10   45.8
      Gini           465   2   11   9   51.66666667
      Milner   437   2   10   8   54.625
      Keita    354   1   10   9   39.33333333
      Hendo   160   1   3   2   80
      Lallana   5   0   1   1   5
      Firmino   420   1   10   9   46.66666667
      Mane    440   2   10   8   55
      Salah    435   1   10   9   48.33333333
      Sturridge   24   0   1   1   24
      Shaqiri   32   0   1   1   32

      Still don't rate him.

       :couch:


      Wankpuffin.
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      Reply #5784: Sep 16, 2018 08:56:48 pm
      Just to be clear, after reading the data Henderson came out the worst.
      Lallana was best at 1 goal per 5 minutes. Henderson 1 goal per 80 etc..
      If anybody wants to point out any errors I will be happy to correct it.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5785: Sep 16, 2018 08:59:14 pm
      I cannot be bothered to apply algorithms, I also had to average on the injury time minutes.

      Player   Minutes   Conceeded   Scored   Difference   Minutes per goal
      Alisson   465   2   11   9   51.66666667
      Van Dijk   465   2   11   9   51.66666667
      Gomez   465   2   11   9   51.66666667
      Robertson   465   2   11   9   51.66666667
      Matip     5   1   0   -1   -5
      TAA           458   1   11   10   45.8
      Gini           465   2   11   9   51.66666667
      Milner   437   2   10   8   54.625
      Keita    354   1   10   9   39.33333333
      Hendo   160   1   3   2   80
      Lallana   5   0   1   1   5
      Firmino   420   1   10   9   46.66666667
      Mane    440   2   10   8   55
      Salah    435   1   10   9   48.33333333
      Sturridge   24   0   1   1   24
      Shaqiri   32   0   1   1   32

      Still don't rate him.

       :couch:

      Edit: I reread the data and Henderson is 80 minutes per goal and Kieta 39 minutes per goal etc..
      So actually Henderson feared worse not better.
      Of course, Matip stat is fudgy because dividing by a negative number gets messy.


      Jesus Christ Rib, those stats aren't correct either! Do some fact checking please for the love of god. I literally gave you the correct stats, scored 4, conceded 2. These ones say 3 and 1 so I've no idea where you've got them from, but they're not usable.
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      Reply #5786: Sep 16, 2018 09:01:52 pm
      Jesus Christ Rib, those stats aren't correct either! Do some fact checking please for the love of god. I literally gave you the correct stats, scored 4, conceded 2. These ones say 3 and 1 so I've no idea where you've got them from, but they're not usable.
      Manually checking goals when players were on the pitch, I don't have a great data source, but it won't make a difference because it is still +2. It was because I counted it as +1 instead of +2 - 1 in the Leicester game.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #5787: Sep 16, 2018 09:05:20 pm
      Manually checking goals when players were on the pitch, I don't have a great data source, but it won't make a difference because it is still +2.

      It's still +2 but it taints the rest of the results, if one isn't accurate who knows about the others.

      It's also a little bit futile to be using these stats at this early part of the season where he's not even been on the field for half the time the others have been. Would be more useful later on.

      I do appreciate you actually trying to use statistics to back up your points after years of saying 'stats mean nothing'.
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      Reply #5788: Sep 16, 2018 09:08:02 pm
      It's still +2 but it taints the rest of the results, if one isn't accurate who knows about the others.

      It's also a little bit futile to be using these stats at this early part of the season where he's not even been on the field for half the time the others have been. Would be more useful later on.

      I do appreciate you actually trying to use statistics to back up your points after years of saying 'stats mean nothing'.
      I used this part instead of the +4 -2 stat.

      vs Spurs : -1
      vs Brighton : 0
      vs Palace : +1
      vs West Ham : +1
      vs Leicester : +1

      I think it is mostly right, but later in the season after 10 games maybe there will be some credible stats out from somebody who does this regularly.
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      Reply #5789: Sep 16, 2018 09:10:15 pm
      I used this part instead of the +4 -2 stat.

      vs Spurs : -1
      vs Brighton : 0
      vs Palace : +1
      vs West Ham : +1
      vs Leicester : +1

      I think it is mostly right, but later in the season after 10 games maybe there will be some credible stats out from somebody who does this regularly.


      That was just goal difference, not the for and against.

      It will be interesting, but the most important stat so far for every player is 100% win rate.

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