The Biggest Mistake we ever made....

So, if you were to trawl back through your personal Liverpool history, what would in your opinion be the biggest mistake the club has ever made?
I for one hate the fact that we sold Ian Rush to Juventus back in the day.
He came back as equally a great player as he always was but if Heysel had been dealt with differently then we would have gone on to win a lot more trophies.
The tragedy of heysel is a a terrible thing but i believe that we would have (like Everton lets not forget who were a great team at the time) gone onto to dominate Europe for a lot longer and possibly still to this day.
But selling Rush at his peak was a huge statement of our financial and footballing situation.

What would you say was our biggest mistake?

Selling to H&G.

That far outweighs any managerial decision, even Gerard's decision not to sign Anelka and bring in Diao and Spit.

Allowing two cowboys almost ruin our wonderful club!

Definitely selling to those pair of cocks. The lack of care and knowledge when selling to those idiots really angers me as much as anything the two morons did. It could have so easily been avoided. But hey let's not dwell on it. Like all of us I look forward to the future once more with this club.

Selling to Tom and Dick ultimately resulting in Rafa's departure.

agree about h&g but was trying to finally steer issues away from the last idiot owners and on to footy issues

Appointing Greame Souness as a Manager would something that I  would like to erase from LFC history.  Great player but as a manager not nearly good enough especially for the then best team in the world.

What about David Moores becoming chairman? That wasn't great for the club.

Recent history = the Gareth Barry saga that led to us losing Xabi Alonso to Real Madrid.

Earlier history = El Hadji Diouf breaking up the chemistry in the side.

.We have made a few mistakes over the years starting from the early 1950s.
  1/ At that time we never replaced players who were good but got too old,too many at once probably due to the 2nd world war.
  2/ We appointed Don Welsh as manager and we finished up in the old second division,
  3/After Kenny Dalglish resigned we should of promoted from within-ie- Ronnie Moran or Roy Evans thus ensuring continuity.
  4/By far the biggest mistake had to be Moores selling the club to H+G without doing due dilligence on the thieving basta*ds.
  5/Appointing Hodgson,he nearly put the last nail in the coffin and finished us off.
  6/ Not building the new ground 3 or 4 years ago,it would of saved millions compared to what it will cost today

Appointing Greame Souness as a Manager would something that I  would like to erase from LFC history.  Great player but as a manager not nearly good enough especially for the then best team in the world.

What about David Moores becoming chairman? That wasn't great for the club.

^^^^^all of the above.Utter disaster's. What was Peter Robinson thinking about?

Appointing Woy Hodgson, Rafa leaving, losing Xabi, no new stadium. All point in one direction "H&G".

What about not bringing Kenny back in the early 90's ?  Fergie wouldnt be close to no.18 even by now....

If the then board had allowed KK (or indeed encouraged him to take) a few weeks' leave in 1990, he would have come back as LFC manager, rather than go to Blackburn, where he achieved great success. Then the story of the last 20 years would have been completely different. For me, there's no worse football decision than the way that situation was handled, in the history of the club.

H & G simples.

by far H&G!

there have been plenty of "small" issues, ie selling or buying the wrong players that we all know but the biggest mistake was letting Tom Hicks near this football club, he nearly ran us into the ground the pr**k (GG too but he was nothing compared to Hicks for me.. he was just a weird clown who wanted to be adored.. Hicks is the devil)

I always thought Moores was our biggest mistak until h and g arrived and put us back years while heavy investers at City have made the job of recovery harder. I do think we now have the right staff to rectify that. Football wise - Anelka and Alonso our biggest mistakes. I would have added letting Rafa go but it's brought us down the road to Kenny

Selling to Dumb and Dumber, probably.

And as stated, letting Alonso and Anelka go.

Appointing Woy Hodgson, Rafa leaving, losing Xabi, no new stadium. All point in one direction "H&G".

Very true mate.

Heysel - LFC cant be held to account for the actions of some clowns in the crowd and a poorly selected venue.  Just like England cant be held responsible for the muppets who start fights.  So I cant agree with that one

I just cant see big players leaving the club as big mistakes, misjudged errors yes.  Anelka at that time was a bit of a wonderer and Alonso got his dream move.

Mistakes that genuinely effect the clubs ethos, what it stands for, the football its famous for - everything points to H&G.  Those two clowns almost destroyed the club...

Obviously H&G were the biggest mistake of all time, but Souness set us back years.

Parry & Moores.

Everything with H&G leads back to their incompetence.

Parry & Moores.

Only saw this bit mate and was about to post "and the other half of the wrecking crew H&G" then I saw the remainder.

Letting Emile Heskey go, it went downhill from there.

Selling Paul Stewart, I cried for days

Igor Biscan not wearing any undercrackers against Everton.



Sad day for football that.

Alonso andArbeloa to madrid

In order

Moores.

Not re-appointing Kenny.

Giving souness the job.

Not taking up anelka.

Pako leaving.

Alonso & arbeloa to madrid.

Sacking Rafa.

Taking a sh*t on the bonnet of a police car.

And may I add, what a wonderfully, upbeat, optimistic topic

1/ Not expanding Anfield or building a new stadium when it went to all seater stadiums

2/ Should have given Kenny the summer to recover rather than rushing into bringing Souness in.

3/ Expecting that joint managers could work

4/ Giving Houllier a new contract on the back of the league cup win over the mancs. His time was up and that extra season really cost us even though it did lead to Istanbul.

5/Not building a new larger stadium

6/Selling to H & G ..... could have seen us doing a Leeds

7/ Buying Keane, chasing Barry and selling Alonso 

8/ Buying an injured Aquilani and expecting him to replace Alonso

9/ Appointing Roy

10/ Not appointing Dalglish last summer

Its easy to say h&g but our biggest mistake was missing the boat in using our global appeal when the premier league started off in 92/93. We should have easily matched united in that department and raised millions more then we did which would have meant by the time we sold to them two we wouldn't have had to sell to them

It has to be that idiot Moore. We stood still for 20 years is because of him.

Appointing Greame Souness as a Manager would something that I  would like to erase from LFC history.  Great player but as a manager not nearly good enough especially for the then best team in the world.

I have to agree KK ,it was the start of the rot.

In order

Moores.

Not re-appointing Kenny.

Giving souness the job.

Not taking up anelka.

Pako leaving.

Alonso & arbeloa to madrid.

Sacking Rafa.

Agreed but im not a rafa fan so id take that one away.

Its easy to say h&g but our biggest mistake was missing the boat in using our global appeal when the premier league started off in 92/93. We should have easily matched united in that department and raised millions more then we did which would have meant by the time we sold to them two we wouldn't have had to sell to them

Very true Brian and the scum have used their head start to great advantage. We were slow off the mark and it seems our international image was never really an issue full stop.
You could say that when H&G got the bullet our new owners saw the value of promoting the brand recognised it's appeal and sought to take advantage of our support base globally and we are catching manUre in more ways than one.

It has to be that idiot Moore. We stood still for 20 years is because of him.

Could our lack of global appeal in those days also be down to Moores who seemed to run the whole shooting match, unfortunately.

From a player point of view not signing Anelka is up there for me.

Robinson going back on his word to bring Kenny back if he left Blackburn.

Very true Brian and the scum have used their head start to great advantage. We were slow off the mark and it seems our international image was never really an issue full stop.
You could say that when H&G got the bullet our new owners saw the value of promoting the brand recognised it's appeal and sought to take advantage of our support base globally and we are catching manUre in more ways than one.  
As a post script to the earlier post I am left to wonder if our lack of global appeal could also be down to Moores who seemed to have his finger on the trigger with most things at LFC. Could our lack of global appeal in those days also be down to Moores who seemed to run the whole shooting match, unfortunately.

The world of football merchandising moved ahead but Moore stood still
The world of sponsorship moved ahead but Moore stood still
The worldwide fan base for the scums increased in folds but Moore did nothing and stood still
Our style of play crumbled before his eyes yet he did nothing and stoodstill
The club was sold to the 2 clowns and the club did not standstill but went into a steep decline

Can I blame Souness, Anelka, Stadium, H&G, Keene, Aquilani, Alonso or Roy more than moore? It has to be him, it has to be him, he has to take all the blame for the position we are in today. He belongs to the cave. Thank goodness we still have a very strong fan base in the far east and the rest of the world. It's up to the new owners to regain the lost grounds in terms of fan base. Does he still hangs around at Anfield nowadays?

For me it has to be:

1. Selling to Hicks and Gillett - Set the club back years with the stadium and lack of players signed, not to also mention nearly putting the club into the grave.
2. Forcing Xabi Alonso to leave - If we had kept him, who knows what we would have done in the 2009-2010 season.
3. Not signing Anelka - Could have been the final piece upfront for us to go that one bit further and lift the title.

Employing Moores and Parry, who whilst the football world (at least in money terms) was changing, just held us back and let it pass us by. And for then selling to H&G.

The biggest mistake has to be Moores selling the club to that 2 F***ing cowboys H&G.

The cherry on top was appointing that face rubber "Woy Hodgson".

Real bad, bad mistakes I'd call that, cause Liverpool FC almost seized to exist. F**k, am I glad we've crossed that bridge.

Employing Moores and Parry, who whilst the football world (at least in money terms) was changing, just held us back and let it pass us by. And for then selling to H&G.

Ironic really given the biggest change in English Football was initiated by Parry .... the c**t.

Buying Charlie Adam! He hasn't done sh*t for LFC since arrival! What a waste of money that has been

Buying Charlie Adam! He hasn't done sh*t for LFC since arrival! What a waste of money that has been

He hasn't arrived until he passes a medical. 

He hasn't arrived until he passes a medical. 

DAMN! I'll post again in a few hours

Taking a sh*t on the bonnet of a police car.

NAAATHAN YOU FAG!

souness

In the past decade? Selling to H&G, easy.

Player wise? Selling Xabi is obvious. I'd also argue not getting David Silva, Dani Alves or Florent Malouda were big misses, not necessarily mistakes per se.

Allowing two cowboys almost ruin our wonderful club!

absolutely

1. getting rid of anelka and buying diouf instead
l2. letting xabi go
3. two cu*ts called hicks and gillett
YNWA

Our biggest mistake , not having the youth academy ( that we have now ) in place years ago ,if we'd had the correct structure in place then our 18 titles would have been increased

moores and the 2 cancers held us back years in terms of money coming into club and players .did he not say not to ronaldo (pre scum) for 9m and aguero for 8 mil.

Moores probably wanted what was best for the club, but could not be arsed doing it, but the worst mistake was allowing the Two American cowboys into our club!.

DAVID f***in MOORES and his SPAWN Rick Parry. I remember someone having a go at me on a forum about 3 years ago when I was banging on about how destructive Parry was to our club it became a bit of an obsession but I was right wasn't I.

The biggest mistake for me was allowing our owners to become myopic...

So much has chnged yet they still stood still. They thought the had nothing to do and we would always be top - staying still whilst around others became global marketing machines. God only knows what where we would have been if in the early years of the prem we had and new stadium / improvemens to 90,000, improved media / commercial management and squad developement. Christ were debatibly the biggest club in Europe without any work over the last 20 years...

By the time they realised and panicked our club was in the the hands of H&G and it could have been a lot worse than it has been...

For me allowing the owners to not listen and respect the club and its followers was the biggest mistake ever...

Recently, whoever took the decision to appoint Roy friggin Hodgson. What an absolute baffoon. Actually made me dread watching my team play, what a joker he was/is

Firstly when Moores sold to H&G however I'm sure had he known the way in which the club would be dragged through the mud I'm sure he would have never dreamt of selling to them morons, and secondly I think the departure of Pako and Alonso really caused us problems!

But that's the past and we must now move on, thinking of starting a counter thread "The Biggest Improvement we ever made" examples of this could be appointing Kenny

 I have had a rethink on the biggest mistakes we ever made and I reckon there is four mistakes that can never be emulated.
   1/We never cloned Bill Shankly.
   2/We never cloned Bob Paisley.
   3/ We never cloned Joe Fagan.
   4/ We never cloned Billy Liddell.
     With those 4 Gentlemen leading our club we would be untouchable in any era.

I have had a rethink on the biggest mistakes we ever made and I reckon there is four mistakes that can never be emulated.
   1/We never cloned Bill Shankly.
   2/We never cloned Bob Paisley.
   3/ We never cloned Joe Fagan.
   4/ We never cloned Billy Liddell.
     With those 4 Gentlemen leading our club we would be untouchable in any era.

...We best get to work on cloning Kenny now then!

...We best get to work on cloning Kenny now then!

You will get no argument from me on that score.

You will get no argument from me on that score.

me either.. if we could clone one of him from when he was playing then even better

me either.. if we could clone one of him from when he was playing then even better

I still have a picture in my head of Kenny scoring that goal against Chelsea when we did the double.Its off topic but Keegan did us a big favour when he left.

 The biggest mistake for me was not going back to our most successful manager of the last generation sooner. Kenny was managing other clubs while we were poncing around with Houllier, we should have got him back on board then. The contrast already between Kenny and all those who have attempted to follow in his footsteps couldn't be greater. That was a massive mistake.

 And to think I thought he was past it too. What a pleb.

Appointing Greame Souness as a Manager would something that I  would like to erase from LFC history.  Great player but as a manager not nearly good enough especially for the then best team in the world.

For me thats the one.

And to think I thought he was past it too. What a pleb.

you said it buddy

Gerard's decision not to sign Ronaldo and Quaresma for 12million both were offered to by sporting and the following year manure get Ronaldo for 16million and sell him for 80million

Gerard's decision not to sign Ronaldo and Quaresma for 12million both were offered to by sporting and the following year manure get Ronaldo for 16million and sell him for 80million

I was very glad we didn't sign Ronaldo. If we had Ronaldo, I truly believe that Hicks and Gillet would still be here. They'd use the 80 million and refinance the loan with that money.

Biggest mistake was hiring Souness and selling to H & G.    

I was very glad we didn't sign Ronaldo. If we had Ronaldo, I truly believe that Hicks and Gillet would still be here. They'd use the 80 million and refinance the loan with that money.

Biggest mistake was hiring Souness and selling to H & G.   

I think if we had other owners than David Moores Souness may have been more succesful.As it was Moores wa sso in Awe of Souness he gave him free reign to go through the club with impunity.

By far H&G...

Alonso schenanigans is a bitter taste also...

Alonso schenanigans is a bitter taste also...

I agree that trying to sell Alonso to buy Barry was a massive mistake, but even if that didn't happen, I still think Alonso would still go to Madrid.

Players, especially Spanish players, just don't reject Real Madrid. IMO he still would have moved to Madrid, probably for a little more money though.