Ronaldinho to Chavs?

I wouldn't normally invite comment on Chavs transfer speculation but the way this is written reminds me of the amazing spending power they have and how we should be aiming to meet that benchmark.

We already know that his money has bought them two league titles.If the speculation is right it showsa clear message of intent to re-capture the premiership title.

Makes me wonder if we have the financial muscle to match such an audacious offer or are we still light years away from matching Chav spending power?

Here is the article from todays Mail...

SPORTSMAIL WORLD EXCLUSIVE: Roman Abramovich has held two meetings with Ronaldinho's brother and adviser, the second in London this weekend, in the hope of bringing the Barcelona superstar to Chelsea. In the most audacious transfer business of his Chelsea tenure the Russian billionaire spent the weekend entertaining Roberto de Assis Moreira and is understood to have put an offer to him that would make the Brazil star the highest paid player in Europe...

Lets see how this one developes..

If this were to happen I would imagine it would involve fat frank going the other way,
and a sh*t load of cash because fat frank isn't worth half of ronaldinho

Would be the end of Ronaldinho's career if he went there. Imagine leaving an attacking football team like Barca for the defensive, not always honest tactics of Chelsea.

Would be the end of Ronaldinho's career if he went there. Imagine leaving an attacking football team like Barca for the defensive, not always honest tactics of Chelsea.

I tottaly agree lokk at thr other players hu av ruiend there carears,

glen johnson - very promsing rb
del horno - lucky only stayed a season but would of been the same outcome
tal ben hiem - as soon as carvaliho is fit he is fu**ed
shaun wrght philips - heis startin to work hw was in the team but who noes
shevchnco
n many many many more

I tottaly agree lokk at thr other players hu av ruiend there carears,

glen johnson - very promsing rb
del horno - lucky only stayed a season but would of been the same outcome
tal ben hiem - as soon as carvaliho is fit he is fu**ed
shaun wrght philips - heis startin to work hw was in the team but who noes
shevchnco
n many many many more

Now when your back to school, please take more notice in your spelling classes
we do have a spell check button.

I wonder how much the transfer fee would be ?, and wage's - the highest in Europe.
Don't worry Beckham, he won't earn as much as you !

On SSN it was stated the a get out clause was £85,000,000! I can't see it happening. But aparently Barca need money to finance the Alves deal? so you never know.

Now when your back to school, please take more notice in your spelling classes
we do have a spell check button.

I wonder how much the transfer fee would be ?, and wage's - the highest in Europe.
Don't worry Beckham, he won't earn as much as you !

Were you being ironic here?

I hope he doesn't go to Skumsea I quite like watching Ronaldinho play his game is unlike any other attacking midfielder come striker I have ever seen and is always enjoyable to watch (except against us of course) and his set pieces are usually hit with laser precision.  He is too good for them in my opinion and could do a lot better.

If ronaldhinho does end up at chelsea then i can't see mourinho staying there for too long.  Because if Chivchenko can flop under moronhio then so can ronaldhinio.

No way.  Chelsea think they can sign anyone and everyone don't they.  Little tw*ts.

TBH they can do what they want.  They won't win the League this year!

Is anyone of the opinion that we should also be in the market for Ronaldinho or aren't our pockets deep enough for such a player?

Could Gillette and Hicks raise 50 mill to sign such a player?

Or are we still a way off the market for such Galactico's?

I think so long as they spend carefully and do not borrow to borrow (if you know what I mean) then we should be on a level par with them.

I don't want to wait until the new ground is built and rely onthat income before we sign the 'star' player and then can claim to be challenging for the prem and all other comps.

Maybe I am just greedy (and unrealistic) but I want the title and the big players!!!!!!!


 

Is anyone of the opinion that we should also be in the market for Ronaldinho or aren't our pockets deep enough for such a player?

Could Gillette and Hicks raise 50 mill to sign such a player?

Or are we still a way off the market for such Galactico's?

I think so long as they spend carefully and do not borrow to borrow (if you know what I mean) then we should be on a level par with them.

I don't want to wait until the new ground is built and rely onthat income before we sign the 'star' player and then can claim to be challenging for the prem and all other comps.

Maybe I am just greedy (and unrealistic) but I want the title and the big players!!!!!!!


 

To be honest, we don't really need big players to win the title! Just a good team! And that's exactly what we've got here!

Buying Ronaldinho would be a wonderful spectacle, but when you toy with the idea of bringing in a player who would  change the entire team set-up you already have, I think it's a little unrealistic and very un-Rafa like!

Is anyone of the opinion that we should also be in the market for Ronaldinho or aren't our pockets deep enough for such a player?

Could Gillette and Hicks raise 50 mill to sign such a player?

Or are we still a way off the market for such Galactico's?

I think so long as they spend carefully and do not borrow to borrow (if you know what I mean) then we should be on a level par with them.

I don't want to wait until the new ground is built and rely onthat income before we sign the 'star' player and then can claim to be challenging for the prem and all other comps.

Maybe I am just greedy (and unrealistic) but I want the title and the big players!!!!!!!


 

I'd like to think that if Rafa wanted to go for him then the owners would back him with the cash

I'd like to think that if Rafa wanted to go for him then the owners would back him with the cash

As the owners have already said, they'd fund a bid for 'Snoogy Doogy' if Rafa wanted him! So I don't doubt them for a minute!

But if Rafa fancied a pop at Ronaldinho he would have tried it on a while back!

It's all very well to want Ronaldinho but how would he fit into the side?

It's all very well to want Ronaldinho but how would he fit into the side?

I couldn't see him fitting in at all!

Any team who got him would have to play in 4-5-1 or 4-3-3! 4-5-1 would be the best option for us but you couldn't imagine Rafa spening the whole summer shaping our team and then changing the set-up at the end of the transfer window!

I don't think we can afford him infact can anyone outside chelsea afford him.  I think 60m is the absolute minimum,  its probably going to take meeting the buy-out clause which is believed to be around 80m to realistically purchase him.

No way, no how is he coming to the premier league. He wouldnt be able to cope against defences in the prem. Chelsea would kill his career anyway, they are boring and dull to watch while Ronaldinho is a player who makes you stand up off your seat in excitment.

I want to know what benchmark is being set first, Chelsea to become the first team to buy a player for 100 million, F***ing let them. I want Torres to be a hit, but I get as much joy watching a player like Voronin, who cost nothing grabbing goals.

Why the big deal with how much money is spent, I'd say over the last ten years some of better players have been those that have cost nothing or been brought through from the youth set-up.

Soft-arse roman still thinks splashing cash all over the shop will bring him the trophy he wants most - the European cup.

What bothers me about this is, why is Abmramovich transfering players? He knows f*ckall about football!

Was it not him who transfered shevchenko against Mourinho's advise?

What bothers me about this is, why is Abmramovich transfering players? He knows f*ckall about football!

Was it not him who transfered shevchenko against Mourinho's advise?

And look what a success he was last season, maybe he will do the same this season and buy someone, anyone for £30 million and expect than to be a hit.

Noway he would come over here if he was to leave hed go to Italy anyway Eto is out for a few months now cant see Barca letting Ronaldinho go now.

I hope he doesn't.. I love Ronaldinho I think he's brilliant, I hope he doesn't ruin his life by moving to London :'(

I hope he doesn't.. I love Ronaldinho I think he's brilliant, I hope he doesn't ruin his life by moving to London :'(

I second you on that Nic, can I call you Nic?

AJ - Forum Smoothie 

Well this thread looks a load of bollocks - kelv hit nail on head eto'o injured and out for a couple of months, goofy's going nowhere

Hehe yes you can call me Nic

Hopefully you're right Huyton Red! Although the deadline is over the Chavs always seem to have the rules bent around them for some reason or another. DON'T DO IT RONALDINHO!!

There is NO WAY he would work in our system.  Rafa is building a team, Ron is one player....chelsea has become 11 great 'individual' players where liverpool have become a team...you cant simply get all sorts of world class players and put them together and expect titles. Two examples.... Los Angeles Lakers, a basketball team (netball I forget what you call it out there) tried it a few years back with gary payton, shaq, kobe, karl malone....All super stars.....they were worthless....Second, look at englands national team...too many greats rather than one strong unit. 
Ron is fun to watch but not in our side.  let the chelsea tw@ts pick him up....If he goes blue then I will look forward to seeing Carra and finn show him a thing or two about getting stuck in. 

^^Um yeah, get your facts right.

The only reason the LA Lakers of 03/04 failed to win the championship (mind you, they still got to the finals) is that Karl Malone got injured, and the Lakers didn't have a servicable replacement for him.

Anyway, Masch would deal with Ronaldhinho the same way he deals with Kaka.

The only reason the LA Lakers of 03/04 failed to win the championship (mind you, they still got to the finals) is that Karl Malone got injured, and the Lakers didn't have a servicable replacement for him.

Are the Lakers like the Everton of basketball? That's exactly the kind of excuse I'd expect a bitter to come out with

 Are the Lakers like the Everton of basketball? That's exactly the kind of excuse I'd expect a bitter to come out with


Nah, the Lakers have won a few Trophies......

^^Um yeah, get your facts right.

The only reason the LA Lakers of 03/04 failed to win the championship (mind you, they still got to the finals) is that Karl Malone got injured, and the Lakers didn't have a servicable replacement for him.

Anyway, Masch would deal with Ronaldhinho the same way he deals with Kaka.

I'm not trying to be picky, but it's not really a 'fact' is it!

Continuing my La Lakers/Everton theme, everyone knows the Lakers lost because of Heysel.

My bad on bringing the laker into this...The "facts" are that the whole was less then the sum of all its parts.  Don't get to excited about your knowledge of the Lakers. Noone around here really cares that much.  I love L.A. but snobs like you make us look bad.  p.s. clippers = everton

A report from Fox Sports in Australia has confirmed that a British newspaper has said the Barcelona and Brazil star Ronaldinhio has had a fall out with coach Frank Riijkard, and wants to talk about a contract to sign with Chelsea.

A report from Fox Sports in Australia has confirmed that a British newspaper has said the Barcelona and Brazil star Ronaldinhio has had a fall out with coach Frank Riijkard, and wants to talk about a contract to sign with Chelsea.

Said paper would be The Sun, and we all know how reliable their stories are.

From Sky Sports this morning:

Ronnie could leave - agent

Assis reveals 'strained' relationship with Barca

Ronaldinho's 'strained' relationship with Barcelona could see the Brazilian star leave the Spanish giants in the summer, according to the player's brother and agent Roberto Assis. The 28-year-old forward's future at Camp Nou has been the subject of intense speculation over the course of the season as he has struggled for form and fitness. Milan have been strongly linked with a summer move for the former Paris Saint Germain ace, while Chelsea are also reportedly monitoring his situation. Ronaldinho came under further pressure when recent scans revealed he was not carrying a thigh injury, despite the player's claims to the contrary. And in light of his seemingly eroding relationship with Barca, Assis has revealed that he is considering invoking article 17 of Fifa's transfer regulations as the value of the release clause in his contract is thought to be prohibitively high.

Article 17 allows players to buy out the remainder of their contract under certain circumstances and would likely prove a cheaper option.

Assis told GloboEsporte.com: "The possibility of Ronaldinho leaving Barcelona is always there.

"We are aware of the release clause, but we also know about the existence of article 17. Anything is possible.

"In football, results determine how things go. Barcelona have not won anything since last season and, as Ronaldinho is the star of the team, he is the one who is given the worst criticism."

Assis did not rule out the possibility of Ronaldinho moving to fierce rivals Real Madrid, saying: "It has already happened a number of times, even to big names such as Luis Figo.

"However, I don't like to name specific clubs."

Assis added that Ronaldinho could stay at the Camp Nou should Barca lift either the Primera Liga or UEFA Champions League title come the end of the season.

He said: "The relationship is strained, but imagine if Barca win the Champions League. They wouldn't let him go if he was a champion, would they?

"With their hands on a title, everything would be different."

Here's an old story that just keeps coming back around. It seems plausible to me that Ronaldinho could consider leaving Barca this summer, and with the source of the info being his brother (and agent), it seems solid. What is less certain is where he would want to go, as no specific clubs have been mentioned for sure. What is sure however is that Chelsea would put up the money asked for him, and it wouldn't be good news for us.

This would bring them one step closer to Man Utd and Arsenal in terms of creative talent, something that we are sorely lacking at the moment. Now I'm not saying we should (or could) make a move for him, I just feel that until we have a player-maker of this quality we're going to have a lot of trouble winning the league. We have players with potential who aren't quite there yet (Lucas, Babel), but I don't know if they'll be peaking in time for next season.

Reading stories like this (however much truth there is in it!) does make me impatient for Rafa to start making it clear who he intends to go for in the summer! Still, can't blame him - I'm sure he still has no idea what budget he can be thinking of, or even if there is going to be one if the Americans are still here by then!

If he's going for as cheaply as 12m as has been reported then i say we go for it, altough he has taken a lot of criticism recently, he is the ex world player of the year, maybe a new challenge will reignite him, him and Torres up front would be fearsome to any defence in the world.

If he's going for as cheaply as 12m as has been reported then i say we go for it, altough he has taken a lot of criticism recently, he is the ex world player of the year, maybe a new challenge will reignite him, him and Torres up front would be fearsome to any defence in the world.

I'm not too sure that he would suit the Premier League.  If that's just me being pessimistic.

I would rather us not go for Ronaldinho for £12m. How old is he? 28 going onto 29? He is well overweight and has lost his passion for the game.

Rather spend £12m on the next Ronaldinho, rather than the once was best player on the globe!
I think he should join Roberto Carlos at Fenerbache (The Brazilian once a great club)

I know that some might not agree with us signing Ronaldinho, but i feel he could be well suited to the prem, he is physically strong, got pace and every trick in the book. He will obviously get fouled a hell of a lot over here, but if he came then I'm sure Rafa wouldn't stand for any nonsense from him, he would get him his weight back on track. And as someone stated above somewhere we are in desperate need of a player who has got creativity while other players develop (i.e. Babel)

It's a risk but look what Utd did with Ronaldo, no-one knew if he would hack it in the PL, but he has set it on fire. And if we want to challenge then I feel we will have to take a few risks.

If Ronaldinho was to lose a stone in weight then I'd say yes. He's not able to produce the tricks he once could, he's lost his determination and thats quite clear to the eye right now - watch Barcelona and you'll see what I mean.

I would rather us not go for Ronaldinho for £12m. How old is he? 28 going onto 29? He is well overweight and has lost his passion for the game.

First of all every manager and coach knows that when a player reaches that age he comes into his peak, secondly how can you say hes lost his passion for the game when hes one of the few players who play with a (all be it goofy) grin on his face. I dont know if you saw his sportmanship. Kicking the ball out no he flicked it up and backheeled it out of the ground without even looking and you say his passions gone. Also hed be a great influence for our younger players you must have heard how well he gets on with the younger trainees at barca. One bad season doesnt mean that your career is over look at Jermain Defoe crap at White Hart Lane but a move to Portsmouth relit his career. And at 12 mill its worth it considering we payed 18.5 for Mascherano who is admittedly younger and this is not meant to sound as though i think hes rubbish I think hes been one of our best players since he moved here. By the way who have we got in our squad who was the 'ex world footballer of the year'? we dont even have the European player of the year. I guess the gist of this little rant would be i would like to buy him.

Even if he was sold for 12 mill can you imagine the wages he'd want. To much risk as it could have a destabilizing effect on the buying club...

The way Chelsea played today against Middlesborough, they would definately be looking for someone to play some real attacking footy.