Stoke 1-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match debate

I missed the first half, was it a penalty?

The Upson handball clearly was and when LFC took a corner, i dunno if it was Adam or Carrol that was fouled in the box, but the referee blew the whistle and ordered it to be retaken.......instead of giving the peno.

I thought that was a really stupid decision

I missed the first half, was it a penalty?

Yes.

Just to clarify, Merson was saying Stoke's penalty wasn't a penalty

Aquilani was a ghost and Raul didnt enjoy games like today sop they wouldnt have made a blind bit of difference. Today needed fast thinking footballers not enough out there I am afraid.

Just to clarify, Merson was saying Stoke's penalty wasn't a penalty

Oh mate, should have said that at 1st 

I think it was the right decision tbh

Why are people surprised Adam struggles when closed down did ye not watch him last season

Seriously, we're going to come up against more teams that'll park the bus. We've got to start to practice very hard in training how to beat a 9 man defence.

F***ing fed up of not being able to beat Stoke away.

Hard to talk about the game now, seemed to go so quick, but we had enough possession and chances that to lose their was ridiculous.

Stoke are a disgrace to football. That isn't how you play football. Nobody should praise them for it.

I am inconsolable that we lost and I am going to put all the blame on Charlie for not stepping up. We should not have lost! I am going to say it. Stoke got a cheap goal.

I am inconsolable that we lost and I am going to put all the blame on Charlie for not stepping up. We should not have lost! I am going to say it. Stoke got a cheap goal.

who was responsible for the goal not Adam but Jamie just as he was against Sunderland.

Stoke away is extremely tough. We were let down by officials once again. Absolutely gutted but it's one game and another tough one awaits us next week. We must not lose !

It was progress from last year and let's be honest if you replayed that game 10x and given those players those chances and got a decent ref in we probably would have won at least nine of them.

If their was no dodgy decisions by the ref in the game then I'd be a lot calmer about the result. It would simply rest with the players who didn't take their chances and Carra who made a mistake. But the fact is despite that there were a handful of spot kicks we should have had which could have got us the victory we deserved. So F***ing annoying.

Hope to see Kuyt and Carra at least dropped for Spurs though, they were F***ing terrible.

Suarez good bar the chances and Bellamy was bright and did enough for me to deserve a start against Spurs.

Stoke are a disgrace to football. That isn't how you play football. Nobody should praise them for it.

They are going to say a win is a win and we are going to take it anyhow. And against Liverpool it's a big win.

who was responsible for the goal not Adam but Jamie just as he was against Sunderland.

And Bolton ..

Hendo did his best Maxi impression and went missing just when i thought you might have turned the corner.

Bellamy looked sharp as did Downing like both them out wide.

Lots of clichés 'round here, Adam wasn't being closed down, midfield had space, it was their defense with a hundread men that we struggled with. They parked the bus and we didn't know how to deal with it. It's not because Adam was being closed down, Gerrard also struggles in that kind of game, we as a team always struggle there actually

absolutely gutted to have lost the game today!adams was overall dissapointing for me!we are seriously need an attacking and creative midfielder.then we can start talking of challenging for honours! Played right into stoke gameplay today,no urgency shown!

I am inconsolable that we lost and I am going to put all the blame on Charlie for not stepping up. We should not have lost! I am going to say it. Stoke got a cheap goal.

If you mean Carragher gave away a cheap penalty, your right.  Although we lost & some players didn't play great, their was a completely different feeling, compared to the defeats last season, definitely not the many despairing defeats that we suffered under Hodgson.

People who are whinging and grow a set. We got a dodgy pen call against us, then spent the second half camped on their 18 yard line. Yeah, we lost, but I can't really complain about the overal commitment. Stoke will be tough for any team this year. I always facnied we'd have a hard time getting a point today. Bit of bad luck - 22-3 shots on goal. I mean..... you pansies!!!

How can anyone blame Carroll for today? Just 4kin dense. 20 players packed into their box inthe second half. It was embarassing if your Stoke, at home, and you have to put up a wall to secure the points. Good for them. They're shyte. Liverpool can count themselves hard done by.

We simply had no luck, but cannot fault the effort from all the team. SOme people on here should be ashamed.

OK - I can fault one or two....

From this game, i would like to see Bellamy in for Kuyt, Spearing in for Adam and Coates in for Carragher, with Johnson starting again out on the right.

who was responsible for the goal not Adam but Jamie just as he was against Sunderland.

Wasn't Flanagan at fault for the Sunderland goal?

On a positive note

We dominated a team at their home ground, we had the lion's share of possession, not many teams will come away from Stoke with 3 points.

We look a lot more positive going forward, and we have a much better squad, which can only get better with games under the belt.

Clattenburg won't referee all our games.

Oh, and little Luis absolutely HATES to lose. I thought he was going to nut the linesman at one point.

From this game, i would like to see Bellamy in for Kuyt, Spearing in for Adam and Coates in for Carragher, with Johnson starting again out on the right.

Johnson could be a doubt, looked like he's gotten injured again.