Who gets dropped for Luis? Or does he go to the bench?

A good poser for KK. Luis is back, does he go straight into the team or does he sit on the bench? And if he must play who do you drop?

After Carrolls last two performances to drop him would be wrong IMO, however, Luis is a special player.

Do you drop Dirk after scoring in the last two matches?

Or do you drop Bellers? Probably our best performer this season.

He will more likely be on the bench and all three players mentioned above will play their bollocks off because they should know, if they're under performing they're off!

I wouldn't be surprised to see Luis on the bench. He hasn't played in a match in over a month and we are in great form with great confidence. If he does get it I think it would be Bellamy to come off because he is valuable to come off the bench and he might need rest. Kuyt could come off but he is soaring high in confidence and I would leave him on.

Feels great to finally have in-form options on our squad.

Suarez Carroll Kuyt up front for our next game but I wouldn't be surprised if Bellamy started for Luis who will have almighty support warming up to come on in the second half especially if we're winning!

Of course he'll be straight back in the team....I trust Kenny to drop and re-arrange the side as he sees fit, depending on the opposition, who's performing well and who isn't, and who's sweating the most at Melwood.

Adam, Henderson, Kuyt could all be moved/dropped, surely now we have a big squad, players will be aware that this will happen, the only player I don't want to see dropped is Andy Carroll, after two excellent performances, it would be a crime to drop him when he's finally found his feet, think this is a turning point in the season for him and he will have his confidence dented if Kenny drops him, in saying that Carroll or Suarez for that matter should be dropped if their performance isnt up to scratch.

No one player is bigger than Liverpool Football Club.

At the moment Bellamy, if fit, is undroppable.

I personally think dropping Carroll in his current form would be a huge mistake. So Kuyt/Downing look the players likely to go.

We'll need to play Gerrard or Suarez at least on Monday, I'm not against him starting on the bench and coming on to help us.

To be honest it is nice to have this problem to consider, because when he got banned we all feared the worst. But having so many players who are playing well makes it a nice problem to have as opposed to a simple choice as everyone else has been sh*te.

Agree on Kuyt or Downing.

Dirk to give him a break and Downing to give him a rocket up his arse.

Drop downing..hes been poor this season..... play suarez and bellamy on the wings with kuyt and carroll up front....and kuyt and suarez can alternate during the matches to confuse the opposition simple in my view !

Downing wont start. Bellamy definitely should and I'd expect Suarez to come straight back in so its a fight out between Kuyt and Carroll.

Tough call...We know that Suarez is not going to be coming in from the bench. If he is healthy and ready to go you must play him. He is easily a world class player.

I would also agree with Downing getting some "rest". I really dont see anyone else.

Andy is hitting form and so is Bellers. However Bellers is older. We have Utd at the Toilet after Spurs. I wold like to see. Carroll start with Suarez, Kuyt, Gerrard and Maxi

Tough call...We know that Suarez is not going to be coming in from the bench. If he is healthy and ready to go you must play him. He is easily a world class player.

I would also agree with Downing getting some "rest". I really dont see anyone else.

If circumstances were normal than yes he would start, but he hasn't played for 8 games therefore they may consider him not to be match fit so he easily could start on the bench. Dropping Big Andy would be a crime in my opinion, he is getting more and more confident and is getting to know his role in the team.

What about something like this...

------------------Reina-----------------
Johnson---Skrtel----Agger----Enrique
-----------Gerrard---Spearing---------
Kuyt------------Suarez--------Bellamy
-----------------Carroll-----------------

What about something like this...

------------------Reina-----------------
Johnson---Skrtel----Agger----Enrique
-----------Gerrard---Spearing---------
Kuyt------------Suarez--------Bellamy
-----------------Carroll-----------------

That's a good lineup

I would actually like to see Carroll play behind Suarez, I think it would work much better.

What about something like this...

------------------Reina-----------------
Johnson---Skrtel----Agger----Enrique
-----------Gerrard---Spearing---------
Kuyt------------Suarez--------Bellamy
-----------------Carroll-----------------

I'd rather drop Kuyt for Henderson, have a central three of Spearo, Gerrard, and Henderson and a front three of Bellamy, Suarez, Carroll

My favourite team:

a 4-3-3 a very fluid one like last season.

            Reina
Johnson Skrtel  Agger   Enrique

         Spearing     Adam
                Gerrard
    Kuyt                  Suarez
                 Carroll

Bellamy and Maxi occasionally.

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OK, with that out of the way, here's my ideal situation:

johnson, skrtel, agger
maxi, gerrard, downing, enrique
bellamy, carroll, suarez

I realize that I may not understand all the positions...I'm still learning!

Not 100% on Maxi but he did get a hat trick last season

                              REINA
Glen,Kelly      Skirtel            Agger       Enrique
                            Spearing/Aurelio
           Henderson/Charlie    Gerrard   
Bellamy,Maxi        Suarez        Downing,Kuyt
                           Carroll

We have a Bigger and Better squad then ever after being relugated off 4th spot .

 

for attacking more like for 15 ,minutes to put the pressure on opponents and to beat the markings..
Suarez on the right, kuyt and carroll upfront..

My favourite team:

a 4-3-3 a very fluid one like last season.

            Reina
Johnson Skrtel  Agger   Enrique

         Spearing     Adam
                Gerrard
    Kuyt                  Suarez
                 Carroll

Bellamy and Maxi occasionally.

Currently, any game that Bellamy can physically play without putting his knees in danger he has to play. Player of the season for me.

Agree on Kuyt or Downing.

Dirk to give him a break and Downing to give him a rocket up his arse.

I will go with that Skip,if Downing does not start to show some improvement he could finish up a 1 season wonder.

Dirk was terrible last night and got a lucky goal, the keeper was really bad for it.just being honest.

Bellamy if he needs a break.
Failing that drop Adam and go 4-2-3-1.

I'd Hazard a guess at Bellamy, he's played a lot of football over the last few weeks, no doubt Kenny will want to keep those knee's of his tip top.

Start Carroll against Spurs, drop him and his confidence takes another knock and we're back were we was 2 months ago. If he plays, has a shocker and goes back to the player who looks like hes never kicked a football before, then our question is answered for us.

We NEED either Bellamy or Kuyt's work rate on the right to help combat Bale against Spurs.

Suarez comes straight in on the left for me.

As RLB said, for the sheer number of games hes played over the past two weeks my money is on Bellamy getting a rest rather than being dropped.

            Carroll
Suarez   Gerrard   Bellamy/Kuyt

Dirk was terrible last night and got a lucky goal, the keeper was really bad for it.just being honest.

Your taking the piss right mate?

Im not Dirk's biggest fan, but the performance he put in last night was by no way "terrible".

Think Luis has to play as I am sure he will be raring to get back into action.  I would like to see him start with Carroll, as Luis is probably the best player to read and feed off what is becoming an improved Carroll.

As to who makes way - well I would have Luis ahead of pretty much anyone, so it probably depends on fitness (Bellers) and how we intend to approach the game.

Rotate with Bellamy (knees) / Kuyt (age) who will both benefit from not being run into the ground every game.

                             Spearing
                     Gerrard     Henderson

               Kuyt                            Suarez

                              Carroll

That should tell you in simple terms who i would 'drop' (Downing) or rest (Bellamy) for the Spurs game. Downing doesn't deserve to start after his performances so far this season and Bellamy deserves a well earned rest and then hopefully start him in the game against United.

I'd bench him Monday due to lack of match fitness.

He earns his place back by playing outstanding when sprung from the bench

Imagine the ovation he's going to receive when he comes on! I'd start him from the bench and bring him on.

I'd bench him Monday due to lack of match fitness.

I think you're gonna be surprised.

He will be itching to play. Id start him.

Think Kuyt plays out right to help hopefully Kelly with stopping Bale and have Suarez and Bellamy ye other two.

The good thing is I won't be any bit disappointed if Carroll starts. He is looking dangerous now.

He is a bomb ready to explote, so i wouldnt bench him, just unleash him. Thing is, he will be trying so hard (maybe too hard) it might end up backfiring. But if he gets a quick goal...oh i wouldnt want to be in evras shoes if Luis gets his confidence uo against spuds! Nutmeg festival for table 1

He earns his place back by playing outstanding when sprung from the bench

Spot on mate.

Do Messi, Ronaldo, Gerrard, etc need to re-earn their places in the side from the bench?  No, the best players play when fit.  Luis is fit, and he will be itching to get back on the pitch.  He will play from the start in this game.

Perhaps Stevie will not be fit for this game, so I would imagine it would be one of Spearo/Hendo/Adam dropped to make way for Luis.  I reckon it will be the same team that lined up against Wolves, except Hendo will drop back next to Adam and Suarez will line up next to Carrol up top. 

If Stevie is fit then he will likely come in for Andy and sit right behind Luis in the withdrawn forward role. 

I think Kenny will spend much more time worrying about how to strengthen our midfield defensively after the worrying way Wolves advanced through it almost unchecked, rather than how to fit Suarez back into the team. In answer to the question however I think Kuyt will be the one who must be sacrificed to allow Luis to return to the team with Henderson making way for a well rested Gerrard. 

It's a wonderful choice to have to make.

I'm itching to see what Suarez will do with with Craig and Andy up front. If some of Carroll's knock on headers drop to Suarez he will give the back line some headaches. Bellamy has been our most consistent scoring threat and if we want to continue to pour on offensive pressure it seems silly to sit him. If he's not fit, obviously that's something else entirely.

The team couldn't be on a better run coming into this next stretch if games! Time to capitalize!

Do Messi, Ronaldo, Gerrard, etc need to re-earn their places in the side from the bench? 

Did Gerrard not have to re-earn his place when he came back from injury? His first couple of appearances were off the bench were they not?

Did Gerrard not have to re-earn his place when he came back from injury? His first couple of appearances were off the bench were they not?

Probably more to do with easing him back into action after such a long injury lay off.

                        Reina
Johnson     Skrtel   Agger    Enrique


          Henderson          Spearing

                        Gerrard

Bellamy                               Suarez

                        Carroll

Bellamy has dodgy knees so it's probably going to be him who comes on as a supersub ,Carroll should be left in IMO as his last 2 games show he is getting his confidence back ,his flicks on to Suarez would be devastating ! Kuyt has done well in his last 2 games .....good problems for Kenny aren't they ?

I can only see Suarez starting. He'll be itching for some action.

I'd play one of the top 3 premiership players from the start meself

He is a bomb ready to explote, so i wouldnt bench him, just unleash him. Thing is, he will be trying so hard (maybe too hard) it might end up backfiring. But if he gets a quick goal...oh i wouldnt want to be in evras shoes if Luis gets his confidence uo against spuds! Nutmeg festival for table 1

I agree we have to start Suarez.  When he joined last year he was coming off a 7 match ban, came off the bench and put one in.  I don't have any concerns.  As QG sais, unleash him.

                         Reina
Johnson - Skrtel - Agger - Enrique
Kuyt - Spearing - Gerrard - Bellamy
               Carroll - Suarez   

I can only see Suarez starting. He'll be itching for some action.

Personally, I would start ten others alongside him, he is good, but hardly good enough to take them all on by himself.

Personally, I would start ten others alongside him, he is good, but hardly good enough to take them all on by himself.

He is a handballing, biting, racist b***ard...he can take them

The team is performing well without him its up for him to prove that we need him

No one is bigger than the team

                        Reina
Johnson     Skrtel   Agger    Enrique


          Henderson          Spearing

                        Gerrard

Bellamy                               Suarez

                        Carroll

Bar Man City (and Spurs if you may), that attack is the scariest in the league for me.

                        Reina
Johnson     Skrtel   Agger    Enrique


          Henderson          Spearing

                        Gerrard

Bellamy                               Suarez

                        Carroll

That's how I'd start out as well, although if Carroll doesn't keep up form, Kuyt may be a better footballer to play with Bellamy and Suarez.

Still, Downing and Maxi have a lot to contribute. Fun headache the King has

The team is performing well without him its up for him to prove that we need him

No one is bigger than the team

I disagree. Suarez has nothing to prove. He was without a doubt our best player before his suspension. And that remains the case.

Good as we've been playing, there are few players in the line up now who deserve to be on the field more than Luis.

He should be so up for playing again that I can't really see him being benched, we need that quality to edge out spurs.

Of course people deserve to be on the pitch more than Luis but we need to win and he needs to be on the pitch to give us the best chance, even if it's for like 50-60 minutes considering he has not played competitively for a while.

If circumstances were normal than yes he would start, but he hasn't played for 8 games therefore they may consider him not to be match fit so he easily could start on the bench. Dropping Big Andy would be a crime in my opinion, he is getting more and more confident and is getting to know his role in the team.

Maybe. But he wasnt Injured so its not like he hasn't practiced or scrimmaged over the last 2 weeks. If he was Injured I would see him coming in for 2nd half or 20 minutes.  I'm certain he is match fit.

Luis has to go back on the field whoever you have to bench

its not like he hasn't practiced or scrimmaged over the last 2 weeks.

Dunno, I wouldn't be surprised to hear he hasn't done much scrimmaging during his time off!

Luis has to go back on the field whoever you have to bench

Pepe? 

Spuds are getting it both barrels from el pistolero simples

 

Look at his reaction for the goals against United.

He is fired up, he'll be chomping at the bit, bursting to go.

Unleash him against Spurs, watch the devastation.

Look at his reaction for the goals against United.

He is fired up, he'll be chomping at the bit, bursting to go.

Unleash him against Spurs, watch the devastation.

Might go down to decision in the tunnel with Kenny and Steve until the final decision is ultimately made to unleash him.



 At my signal

Might go down to decision in the tunnel with Kenny and Steve until the final decision is ultimately made to unleash him.

Must have inspired me, since I'm watching it on telly right now!

Must have inspired me, since I'm watching it on telly right now!

I could see Jay get pretty pumped up along with a few others if Kenny were to give the speech before the spurs match.


"Three weeks from now, I will be at Wembley. Imagine where you will be, and it will be so. Hold the line! Stay with me! If you find yourself alone, running on a green pitch with the sun on your face, do not be troubled. For you are in Istanbul, and you're already dead! ... Brothers, what we do in life... echoes in eternity. "

I'd start Luis on the bench. He'll give the crowd and team a great lift coming on in the 2nd half if we need him. Plus the team that won 3-0 at Wolves deserves to start, although Gerrard should come in for Henderson or Adam.

Straight  back in for me, to leave his flare on the bench would be crazy

As long as he is near as dam it match fit, Kuytt I think. Carroll will need to start after the last two performances or his confidence may be severly damaged.

A good poser for KK. Luis is back, does he go straight into the team or does he sit on the bench? And if he must play who do you drop?

After Carrolls last two performances to drop him would be wrong IMO, however, Luis is a special player.

Do you drop Dirk after scoring in the last two matches?

Or do you drop Bellers? Probably our best performer this season.

He will more likely be on the bench and all three players mentioned above will play their bollocks off because they should know, if they're under performing they're off!

I can see where you are coming from: Lets look at the options Play Suarez (who incidentally will be like a pitbull on heat and chomping at the bit) with Bellers and Carroll - instantaniously dropping Kuyt. Or Drop inconsistant Carroll or Cup hero Bellamy?? Either way someone's feathers are Getting ruffled come Feb 6th.

Tottenham at home requires some attacking nous up front personally i'd go for Bellamy And Suarez in a front two and have Carroll sit off them in the hole. Andy Carroll has been excetional of late but his goals to games leaves a very lot to be desired.
 I'll Support KD regardless of the side he fields against spurs and I have faith that the points are staying in Merseyside - COYRS !!!! YNWA !!!!

I can see where you are coming from: Lets look at the options Play Suarez (who incidentally will be like a pitbull on heat and chomping at the bit) with Bellers and Carroll - instantaniously dropping Kuyt. Or Drop inconsistant Carroll or Cup hero Bellamy?? Either way someone's feathers are Getting ruffled come Feb 6th.

Tottenham at home requires some attacking nous up front personally i'd go for Bellamy And Suarez in a front two and have Carroll sit off them in the hole. Andy Carroll has been excetional of late but his goals to games leaves a very lot to be desired.
 I'll Support KD regardless of the side he fields against spurs and I have faith that the points are staying in Merseyside - COYRS !!!! YNWA !!!!

Bellers I think would be anything but bothered to come off the bench for spurs and United. We have an FA leg followed by Wembley and him more than anybody deserves to be starting both of those.

Like everybody else Suarez should have to earn his place back in the side so I'd go with the same side that performed as well as we have all season against Wolves. If it's not working, you have Suarez to come off the bench. If he grabs himself a goal or looks razor sharp during the time he gets then lash him in from the off for the United game.

Carroll has finally shown a run of form over a number of games, Kuyt has remembered how to score and Bellamy has been our player of the year. As good as Suarez is, Liverpool's philosophy has always been you earn your spot back in the side after a lay-off. With some players recently that hasn't been the case though and I don't think it will be with Suarez on Monday.

I can see him starting with Downing and Kuyt on the wings with a central three of Gerrard, Spearing, Henderson.

We have an FA leg

Is that slang for something or have you just missed out the T 

Like everybody else Suarez should have to earn his place back in the side so I'd go with the same side that performed as well as we have all season against Wolves. If it's not working, you have Suarez to come off the bench. If he grabs himself a goal or looks razor sharp during the time he gets then lash him in from the off for the United game.

Carroll has finally shown a run of form over a number of games, Kuyt has remembered how to score and Bellamy has been our player of the year. As good as Suarez is, Liverpool's philosophy has always been you earn your spot back in the side after a lay-off. With some players recently that hasn't been the case though and I don't think it will be with Suarez on Monday.

I can see him starting with Downing and Kuyt on the wings with a central three of Gerrard, Spearing, Henderson.

I agree...somewhat.

Personally, I think Suarez should play. As many have said, he's "chomping at the bit" and considering his age and experience, I don't have any problem with him started minute 0. Plus, the fans would be uber-supportive and he'd give his 110%...I have no doubt!

Carroll has scored recently but I still feel his confidence is VERY lacking. I DO want him to play because he's young, insecure, and needs more play time but for £35m, I don't feel he's a force....yet. I'd ONLY want him to play to gain the confidence a young man needs....but, it depends if he can take that confidence and make himself a real player/threat. More game play (especially scoring) would give him that confidence but he still "trots" on the field whereas players like Bellamy actually make plays happen. ie, I'm personally still not convinced, by a long shot to be honest.

I'd bench Kuyt (as much as I loved him last season and his recent goals)

I realise KD will probably play players based on recent performance and that's fair...to a degree. But, when I see who LFC is playing in the coming matches, I'm not overly-confident it's going to go our way. After Bolton, KD obviously had a chat with the boys and they've turned a corner but all too often we see complacency after a few matches.

Bring on Suarez, get him over the impending "awkward" match against MU, give Carroll a couple/few more matches not only to build his confidence but justify his signing. I still don't like Carroll much (yet) but I DO want him to do well as we need someone like him (assuming he can be THAT player we all need)

One thing is for sure is Suarez won't get a full 90 as he won't be match fit so on that assumption it would be better to have him coming on from the bench on the 65th minute for Bellars who would have just spent 65 minutes running them into the ground.  Suarez gets a nice easy run out a nice cheeky goal maybe a brace which buys him his ticket into the starting line up for manure the week after and in that game his first touch is a belter from 35 yards which comes off the cross bar, whacks Evra full pelt in the face rebounding back into the net or something similar!

Whatever happens, it's a nice selection headache for Kenny to have. 

Straight back in imo, Spurs would have been watching us recently and will have a idea on how to handle AC, Bellers, Kuyt etc, but unleashing Suarez will give them nightmares and therefore giving us a slight advantage, even if we only get 70mins from him,the damage could have been done by then,

chomping at the bit is a understatement, he'll want to prove a point and be on from the start,

we have to play at our strength's and without Luis we have been weaker, so get him on from the start and watch him create havoc, 3-1 Reds, Suarez,Bellers,Kuyt with the goals, but in no particular order,

                                          Pepe
                          Kelly   Skrtle  Agger  Enrique
                                  Spearing   Gerrard
                           Kuyt       Hendo   Bellers
                                        Suarez
Carroll although improved last 2-3 games has yet to understand Suarez movement imo, both Bellers and Kuyt will and will read Suarez better, and can supply more accurately, feel sorry for the big fella but to me this is our strongest frontline, Hendo has a key role,he is the link between midfield and attack, with Gerrard and Spearo spoiling and setting up play,

if possible nullify Modric, spearing can do that, but Bale will float and be more difficult to keep tabs on, so both Enrique and Kelly have to be on their metal, and hopfully Gerrard will keep an eye on him if he comes thru the middle, we can tw*t these proper, they got lucky at WHL and if i remember right we were doing ok until Adam walked,

C'MON REDMEN,We owe these fuckers big style.

                 IKWT    YNWA

One thing is for sure Suarez won't get 90 minutes and on that basis I don't think it would be helpful to start him.  Let Bellars run amok for 65 then SUarez come on and nick a brace which will guarantee his ticket to start the week after against manure where his first kick of the game will be a 35 pile drive that comes off the bar and smacks evra full pelt in the face and back into the net

One thing is for sure Suarez won't get 90 minutes and on that basis I don't think it would be helpful to start him.

Get him started, it's not like he hasn't been training.

Personally I reckon Kenny will start him and go at the cockney tw*ts from the off.

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OK, with that out of the way, here's my ideal situation:

johnson, skrtel, agger
maxi, gerrard, downing, enrique
bellamy, carroll, suarez

I realize that I may not understand all the positions...I'm still learning!

Not 100% on Maxi but he did get a hat trick last season

That's one f**king goal fest without Reina !

Luis is a straight start. Downing should be rested.

 

Honesty, with Bellamy's amazing performances, I'd rather use Carroll in the 2nd half and use the former as the striker. Suarez can take CAM

Dropping Andy will be a huge dent to his confidence as has been playing well.

Keep Andy in for sure, he'll make space for Luis to tear them a new one.  Probably keep Bellers (or maybe Downing) on the bench to bring on later.

I think Downing will drop to the bench, Suarez to start.

In the last game Henderson was played in an AM position with Adam and Spearing behind him, very mobile.

So, I'd like to see Gerrard, Henderson and Spearing in the middle of the park, Suarez, Bellars either side of Carroll up front.