Joao Carlos Teixeira (Liverpool > Porto)

He was very good when playingh for the U21's v.good too now playing for brighton on loan
 This hoping he will not end up as suso did, leaving LFC to try and have more game time

YNWA

I think the best option would be to give him a new 4-5 year contract and loan him out for 2 seasons to a team playing in the prem or La liga that's willing to play him on a regular basis.

He's 22 and 23 next season, so he really needs to play regularly. He'll no doubt be behind a lot of players next season, so what's the point in wasting his talents? let another team nurture him... and if he's good enough, in 2 years time, bring him back when he's gained experience and at the age of 24.

I think the best option would be to give him a new 4-5 year contract and loan him out for 2 seasons to a team playing in the prem or La liga that's willing to play him on a regular basis.

He's 22 and 23 next season, so he really needs to play regularly. He'll no doubt be behind a lot of players next season, so what's the point in wasting his talents? let another team nurture him... and if he's good enough, in 2 years time, bring him back when he's gained experience and at the age of 24.

Think we're past that stage mate, his contract's up in the summer and there's been no talk of an extension.

Think we're past that stage mate, his contract's up in the summer and there's been no talk of an extension.

Oh, is it? Thought he had a year left

I really can't see him breaking into our first team in the next couple of years with Lallana, Coutinho, Sterling, Ibe, Markovic and a plethora of talented U21's coming up.

Oh, is it? Thought he had a year left

I really can't see him breaking into our first team in the next couple of years with Lallana, Coutinho, Sterling, Ibe, Markovic and a plethora of talented U21's coming up.

According to Transfmarkt it's up this May, which is about right as youth contracts (first pro contracts) are normally 3 yrs. 

Such a shame as for me he's an even better prospect than Suso.

According to Transfmarkt it's up this May, which is about right as youth contracts (first pro contracts) are normally 3 yrs. 

Such a shame as for me he's an even better prospect than Suso.

So probably we are again going to lose another great prospect from our ranks, if a new contract is not offered
 Shame really if thats the case

YNWA

According to Transfmarkt it's up this May, which is about right as youth contracts (first pro contracts) are normally 3 yrs. 

Such a shame as for me he's an even better prospect than Suso.

It's getting a bit boring seeing the club let prospects like Teixeira and Suso go. Instead of keeping our own young players and improving them to increase their value we are deciding to spend millions upon millions for similar aged players and hoping their values somehow jump from 20m+. Might as well shut the Academy down now.

It's getting a bit boring seeing the club let prospects like Teixeira and Suso go. Instead of keeping our own young players and improving them to increase their value we are deciding to spend millions upon millions for similar aged players and hoping their values somehow jump from 20m+. Might as well shut the Academy down now.

I think Suso and Teixeira are more victims in the change of management than anything else.
They have more the look of Rodolfo Borrell signings than Brendan/Alex singings.
Very good technically but not much in the way of pace.

It's getting a bit boring seeing the club let prospects like Teixeira and Suso go. Instead of keeping our own young players and improving them to increase their value we are deciding to spend millions upon millions for similar aged players and hoping their values somehow jump from 20m+. Might as well shut the Academy down now.

Unfortunately as the Academy improves the more of these types of players we'll see leave. 

We can and should only be keeping the absolute best prospects, that fit the 1st team philosophy, systems etc and sadly for Suso and Tex they don't have the necessary pace to get a look in.

I think Suso and Teixeira are more victims in the change of management than anything else.
They have more the look of Rodolfo Borrell signings than Brendan/Alex singings.
Very good technically but not much in the way of pace.

Is correct mate.

Unfortunately as the Academy improves the more of these types of players we'll see leave. 

We can and should only be keeping the absolute best prospects, that fit the 1st team philosophy, systems etc and sadly for Suso and Tex they don't have the necessary pace to get a look in.

If you look at what they're up against, Sterling, then we've no right complaining if they leave.
I can't understand why the club lets them go on a free. Terrible management.
We'll have Italian clubs lining up to pick up quality technical players on a gimme.

If you look at what they're up against, Sterling, then we've no right complaining if they leave.
I can't understand why the club lets them go on a free. Terrible management.
We'll have Italian clubs lining up to pick up quality technical players on a gimme.

I agree mate but we've been shocking till recently keeping hold of players far too long at age 18/19 who were never going to make it.  They get their first pro contract at 17/18, which can't be longer than 3 yrs so if they're not regular 1st teamers by 19, very few will want to extend, even if te Club offered an extension.

There would be little point in us trying to sell them though as without any or with very little 1st team experience we'd get more from the Development fund than a sale and that means them leaving on a free.

I agree mate but we've been shocking till recently keeping hold of players far too long at age 18/19 who were never going to make it.  They get their first pro contract at 17/18, which can't be longer than 3 yrs so if they're not regular 1st teamers by 19, very few will want to extend, even if te Club offered an extension.

There would be little point in us trying to sell them though as without any or with very little 1st team experience we'd get more from the Development fund than a sale and that means them leaving on a free.

You can see it in the youth setup now.
Technically very good by U18, then out on loan rather than be in U21.
Realistically it means if you've not made the team by 20 you'll be gone.

You can see it in the youth setup now.
Technically very good by U18, then out on loan rather than be in U21.
Realistically it means if you've not made the team by 20 you'll be gone.

That's exactly how it is mate. 

Not all will be ready for a loan at 18 but definitely by 19, there is little they can learn technically at that stage they need to be putting it into practice against seasoned pro's. 

Some will come straight into the 1st team squad but if they've not shown enough by 20, I don't think they'll be staying.

That's exactly how it is mate. 

Not all will be ready for a loan at 18 but definitely by 19, there is little they can learn technically at that stage they need to be putting it into practice against seasoned pro's. 

Some will come straight into the 1st team squad but if they've not shown enough by 20, I don't think they'll be staying.

Poor timing for the likes of Suso and Teixeira but nothing sinister at play.
Pity, because Teixeira was outstanding.

Poor timing for the likes of Suso and Teixeira but nothing sinister at play.
Pity, because Teixeira was outstanding.

They both were/are just not what's required for the Liverpool of 2015.

They both were/are just not what's required for the Liverpool of 2015.

True. Both quality players, but no longer what the club is looking for.
Look at Sterling, Ibe and Ojo.
Technical ability with pace and power.

True. Both quality players, but no longer what the club is looking for.
Look at Sterling, Ibe and Ojo.
Technical ability with pace and power.

Yeah they're the prototypes mate and there's a few more already on the production line 

According to Transfmarkt it's up this May, which is about right as youth contracts (first pro contracts) are normally 3 yrs. 

Such a shame as for me he's an even better prospect than Suso.

Before people panic about this, this is a quirk of Transfermarkt. They count the end of the loan deal as the end of the contract.

Oh, additionally Transfermarkt don't have contacts. They only know what we can google. If you can't google the length of his contract, they don't know. Seeing as he isn't on the Echo's out of contract list (unlike Transfermarkt they do have contacts), it is pretty much certain he isn't.

Before people panic about this, this is a quirk of Transfermarkt. They count the end of the loan deal as the end of the contract.

Not sure about that mate.  He's been with us 3 years and I can't remember us extending his contract in that time.  Having said that he might have signed for longer than 3 years as this wasn't his first pro contract, we paid a fee for him as he was 19.

Doh!!  Panic over folks, Debs has jumped the gun 

Not sure about that mate.  He's been with us 3 years and I can't remember us extending his contract in that time.  Having said that he might have signed for longer than 3 years as this wasn't his first pro contract, we paid a fee for him as he was 19.

Doh!!  Panic over folks, Debs has jumped the gun 

100% certain that is how transfermarkt treat loans. Also 100% certain that Transfermarkt don't know anything we don't.

100% certain that is how transfermarkt treat loans. Also 100% certain that Transfermarkt don't know anything we don't.

Still can't find anywhere that says how long his original contract was for or if it's been extended since.

Still can't find anywhere that says how long his original contract was for or if it's been extended since.

Therefore, transfermarkt don't know either. My money is on him having signed a five year contract at 19.