Papiss Cisse

Seydou Doumbia is the reason I don't play Football Manager anymore.

Was fuming when instead of bringing Cisse to Leverkusen Dutt decided to bring the sh*t CB, Omar Toprak.

Seydou Doumbia is the reason I don't play Football Manager anymore.

and why is that? 

Obviously my post was a bit of a joke - not all players who are good on FM are also good on real life -, but it's based in a lot of research and actual ability of the players, so there's a lot of scouting involved in making the game.

Excuse my ignorance here Diego - being an old fart I genuinely know F**k all about F.M. or any other computer games(?), to be honest, so bear with me. When the game developers are setting the game up do you reckon they go 'scout' every player or do they feed in a set of parameters based on available statistics?

Like I say; I genuinely don't know but my appetite has been whetted.

Excuse my ignorance here Diego - being an old fart I genuinely know f**k all about F.M. or any other computer games(?), to be honest, so bear with me. When the game developers are setting the game up do you reckon they go 'scout' every player or do they feed in a set of parameters based on available statistics?

Like I say; I genuinely don't know but my appetite has been whetted.

A bit of both, I think? Honestly I don't know the details of the making of the game either. I think it's basically scouting at least on some levels. I know they have contributors who give them varied reports about players worldwide, cause I know a guy who helps them with Flamengo youth players profiles.

Football Manager use over 1500 researchers worldwide to continually update their massive database. Those researchers are basically football fanatics who watch games from every level, youth, reserves and first team.

Football Manager use over 1500 researchers worldwide to continually update their massive database. Those researchers are basically football fanatics who watch games from every level, youth, reserves and first team.

How epic would that be as a job?

How epic would that be as a job?

Epic, but I think most of them aren't getting paid for it, certainly not much. But don't we all want to watch football for money?

Excuse my ignorance here Diego - being an old fart I genuinely know f**k all about F.M. or any other computer games(?), to be honest, so bear with me. When the game developers are setting the game up do you reckon they go 'scout' every player or do they feed in a set of parameters based on available statistics?

Like I say; I genuinely don't know but my appetite has been whetted.

 but have to say one thing. Attributes and scouting reports are almost similar to them in real life imo. For ex our carrols has very low pace and bad finishing for a striker. Depending on mere statistics will not lead to such a profile ryt?.
Am not saying they are perfect . Its just there must be some effort in it.

Don't forget Kompany, was immense on FM and turned out to be awesome in real life also.

On Topic;

Cisse is looking a cracking signing. Great goal scoring record and appears to have a great attitude.

My only reservation is the same was once said of Amir Zaki.... :/

I used to play FM back in the 70s. I knew Dalglish would be a cracking signing.

A bit of both, I think? Honestly I don't know the details of the making of the game either. I think it's basically scouting at least on some levels. I know they have contributors who give them varied reports about players worldwide, cause I know a guy who helps them with Flamengo youth players profiles.

Football Manager use over 1500 researchers worldwide to continually update their massive database. Those researchers are basically football fanatics who watch games from every level, youth, reserves and first team.

Thanks lads. That's a crazy amount of input/information for the developers to sift through and update (i would assume on an almost daily basis). I'd guess too that all their researchers are reading off the same page with regards methodology - an awesome feat in it's own right.

Anyways back on topic: Cisse has certainly hit the ground running and therefore has won people over in double time. If he can do the same job against full strength, top teams, he'll, no doubt, be hailed a star.

Graham Carr is the chief scout at Newcastle and is someone who's career I have followed closely for a while.

When I was 15, Graham was manager of Nuneaton Borough when I signed for the club.  During this period he signed several players for what was at the time a conference club who went on to have good careers in the league - Trevor Morley, Eddie McGoldrick, Richard Hill, Paul Culpin etc.  Hence, he has always had the ability to recognise and attract good players, but this only comes from hard work.

For instance, Graham watches about 6 matches in France and Holland per week and has been monitoring Cisse since 2007 when he made his debut for Metz and Cabaye since he was 18.  He has also been responsible for recommending Cabaye, Tiote, Marveux and Ben Arfa.

A good scounting network is essential if a club is to unearth this sort of talent - the job that graham is doing at Newcastle shows that quality players can still be unearthed at reasonable prices.

Hence, he has always had the ability to recognise and attract good players, but this only comes from hard work.

For instance, Graham watches about 6 matches in France and Holland per week and has been monitoring Cisse since 2007 when he made his debut for Metz and Cabaye since he was 18.

Why do you reckon it took Graham so long to finally take the plunge on these two Angus?

On a slightly separate note - You sparked my curiosity re:  Cisse, Cabaye, Tiote, Marveux and Ben Arfa... this is probably just coincidence but all are between 25 & 26 years of age. As too is James Perch and Demba Ba whom, I assume, he also scouted to be signed. Maybe Mr Carr sees this as the optimum age for a signing?

Anyhow, either way, the man certainly seems to have a good eye.