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      bigmick
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38617: Sep 14, 2016 11:58:57 am
      Jeez when you look at that group they'd surely have been better off not qualifying wouldn't they? They'd have been in the Europa and given a good draw could have had a run. They'll not get a point in that group though. Scottish football is in dire straits really, when you think Celtic will p!ss their league and their star signings were Scott Sinclair, Kolo Toure and a kid off of Fulham it puts it into perspective.

      I've long said it, I think they should put them and Rangers into the Championship, inside a decade they'd be a reasonable Premiership team.
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      Reply #38618: Sep 14, 2016 12:25:14 pm
      Jeez when you look at that group they'd surely have been better off not qualifying wouldn't they? They'd have been in the Europa and given a good draw could have had a run. They'll not get a point in that group though. Scottish football is in dire straits really, when you think Celtic will p!ss their league and their star signings were Scott Sinclair, Kolo Toure and a kid off of Fulham it puts it into perspective.

      I've long said it, I think they should put them and Rangers into the Championship, inside a decade they'd be a reasonable Premiership team.

      At the height of the O'Neil and McLeish era of the Old Firm Celtic and Rangers were probably top half Premier League sides. Celtic beat us and Blackburn on the way to the UEFA Cup Final in 2003. All been downhill since then and you would definitely say that now Celtic are definitely sub Premier League-lower half of the Championship.
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38619: Sep 14, 2016 12:28:14 pm
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      Reply #38620: Sep 14, 2016 12:33:09 pm
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38621: Sep 14, 2016 01:16:10 pm
      Reading the thread it's like people are surprised Celtic got banjoed. Obviously though I and others like me are the ones "obsessed" with Brendan Rodgers  :D.

      You say surprised when you could say 'waiting' on Celtic getting twatted.
      bigmick
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38622: Sep 14, 2016 01:35:21 pm
      You say surprised when you could say 'waiting' on Celtic getting twatted.

      Well obviously mate, but that's another story. In truth though, does anybody really give a f***? Leaving agenda and prejudice aside, is anybody really surprised that the team wearing the hoops got hammered by Barca? I suppose if Rodgers parked two buses they'd have kept the score down, but he was never going to do that.

      I suppose though if you offered the average Celtic fan 5-1 at the weekend and a 7-0 defeat against Barcelona they would have bitten your hand off.

      I must confess though I never really realised their group was as difficult as it is until it was posted up this morning. They're f*****!

      Frankly, Mr Shankly
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      Reply #38623: Sep 14, 2016 05:55:43 pm
      I want him to flip the triangle in the return leg please do so Brendan because I'm so obsessed with you.

      You are a bit.
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38624: Sep 14, 2016 10:03:34 pm
      Scottish football is utterly terrible. Can't believe Celtic are the best that league has to offer.
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38625: Sep 14, 2016 10:48:02 pm
      Celtic's problem - along with Rangers - is that they are so hellbent and preoccupied on getting one over on each other that they fail to look at the bigger picture.

      If one is doing appallingly sh*t and in the nether regions of Scottish football, the other decides to stay in limbo, failing to develop a squad or devise any coherent plan to get the club as a consistent competitor on the European stage. An attitude that is merely so because 'the other one's not much good' so they can have room for complacency and still win the league - this goes on ad infinitum over the years. The only reason Celtic hired Brendan was because Rangers were potentially looking handy under Mark Warburton - Deila would probably have still been in charge if Rangers were still ballsing things up in the lower divisions.

      It's frankly such an obsession that any proposal to enter the English leagues will be swatted away from the fans. The chances of higher revenues, signing better players and greater competition, along with the chance to test yourself against the best talents in the UK, is redundant in the idea of both sets of supporters who revel in their 'big fish, small pond' status. The iffy stance they take with regards to a chance to play in the English division means it is not beyond reason to suggest that both clubs merely exist to get the better of one another, as opposed to much greater aspirations.

      Neither sets of supporters could ever come to terms with just being another big club amongst many other big clubs - they love being the centre of attention and can't bear the thought of that being taken away, but put them in a real competition and their narrow minded obsessions would suddenly start to look incredibly trivial and pathetic in all honesty. It would more often than not look like two bald men fighting over a comb.

      There's absolutely no foresight or innovation to look at the wider scheme of things. Both clubs are trapped in their own secluded, isolated mindsets (not helped by the luddites of other SPL clubs) maintaining a feeling of superiority that is severely misguided. If a Premier League rivalry is seen as tantamount to a heavyweight boxing clash akin to Muhammed Ali v Joe Frazier, then Celtic v Rangers at this moment is merely two lumpen drunkards glassing each other in pub on a Saturday night.       

      Quite frankly, if these supporters think they've got the balls to act all big and hard, then they would put their money where their mouth is and actively seek to enter the big leagues. I wish to see both clubs competing in England - both clubs have a secure fanbase and the infrastructure to actually make a decent long term plan for their futures. But it could also potentially dilute the vitriol that an Old Firm creates as both clubs merely compete in their first phases of English football for mid table or lower division mediocrity. It might bring a bit of humility to both clubs and provide them with a rude awakening that the world doesn't actually revolve around their hatred for each other. And with that sense of self-importance stamped upon, the authorities - knowing that England is made up of anything but two horse races - could also deal much more harshly to any sectarian bigotry (e.g. points deduction, massive fines) without fear of it spoiling the competition.
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38626: Sep 15, 2016 12:44:37 pm

      Stay out of it nothing was directed at you. But if you are so keen to get involved suggest you jump in to the Benitez thread first and read and witness the biggest hypocracy on a football forum.

      Makes me laugh though everytime I reflect on the conviction and enthusiasm behind Brendans words when he spoke of the triangle.

      It was like telling the world he just discovered that sh*t stinks.
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38627: Sep 15, 2016 03:31:36 pm
      Quote from Son Of A Gun
      Celtic's problem - along with Rangers - is that they are so hellbent and preoccupied on getting one over on each other that they fail to look at the bigger picture.

      It's frankly such an obsession that any proposal to enter the English leagues will be swatted away from the fans. There's absolutely no foresight or innovation to look at the wider scheme of things. Both clubs are trapped in their own secluded, isolated mindsets (not helped by the luddites of other SPL clubs) maintaining a feeling of superiority that is severely misguided. If a Premier League rivalry is seen as tantamount to a heavyweight boxing clash akin to Muhammed Ali v Joe Frazier, then Celtic v Rangers at this moment is merely two lumpen drunkards glassing each other in pub on a Saturday night.

      But that is football fan rivalry. It's all tribal. It's why our local fanbase consider Everton a bigger rivalry and more important than the mancs, even though football wise, Everton have been no threat to us since 1987, and are a total irrelevance to the rest of us who consider our war footing to be against the mancs instead.

      Neither Celtic nor Rangers will join the English leagues, as they won't be allowed to by either the SFA nor the EFA. UEFA only allow clubs to move leagues in exceptional circumstances, and them dominating Scottish football isn't one of them.
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38628: Sep 28, 2016 09:40:55 pm
      A draw with Man City, ending City's winning streak.

      And fair play to Rodgers - that's the first time in ages I've watched Celtic actually take a game to a big side at Europe at Celtic Park rather than park the bus.

      No doubt, some c*nts will say he's lucky.
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38629: Sep 28, 2016 09:50:19 pm
      A draw with Man City, ending City's winning streak.

      And fair play to Rodgers - that's the first time in ages I've watched Celtic actually take a game to a big side at Europe at Celtic Park rather than park the bus.

      No doubt, some c*nts will say he's lucky.

      I didnt watch the game but well done Brendan.

      Which logically should mean we will smash City when we play them   ;)
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      Reply #38630: Sep 28, 2016 09:56:25 pm
      Superb game that was. You'll struggle to get a better match all season in the Champions League. Really impressed with Celtic in fairness - they went toe to toe with Man City in playing attacking football and matched them. Brendan playing it perfectly. Well done to him and Celtic!
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38631: Sep 28, 2016 09:57:55 pm
      I thought they were quality and well deserved their draw. They looked wide open at the back on a fair few occasions but that's the risk that comes with playing his style of football. Thoroughly entertaining game for sure.
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38632: Sep 28, 2016 09:57:58 pm
      I know it's getting old but can't help myself ...he must have flipped the triangle!
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38633: Sep 28, 2016 10:04:25 pm
      Good result today for Rodgers.
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      Reply #38634: Sep 28, 2016 10:10:26 pm
      Great result for Celtic tonight doing what no English PL team has come close to doing so far this season. BR is such a young coach if he can learn how to set up a team defensively as well as he does at times offensively he'll do ok. Nice one Brendan
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38635: Sep 28, 2016 11:27:30 pm
      I didnt watch the game but well done Brendan.

      Which logically should mean we will smash City when we play them   ;)

      Well that was what was running through my mind - I was thinking to myself 'we'd beat these!'.

      That was the first time I'd watched Man City this year and I honestly thought we look far more intense compared to them. City played a pressing game as well as Celtic tonight, but Liverpool's pressing game just looks way more efficient and drilled.

      What intrigues is the fitness levels. Kornmayer will be a crucial part of our season this year - Ancelotti was pissed off he lost him, but his fitness regime fits Klopp's methods like hand in glove, as we saw in 2013 when Heynkes replicated Klopp's gegenpressing. Bayern Munich were supremely fit and Klopp acknowledged this in the Champions League final which was greatly beneficial to Munich in that final.

      This was all down to Kornmayer. Interestingly, Guardiola did not put as much emphasis on fitness as Heynkes and Klopp did for their system, primarily because Guardiola's philosophy emphasises ball possession more than counter pressing. Munich were not as fit under Guardiola as they had been under Heynkes, primarily because Kornmayer was given a limited remit.

      Over the course of the season, it's not beyond reason that City may be more tired than Liverpool, especially as we have no mid week European fixtures and that we have the best fitness coach in the league.
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38636: Sep 29, 2016 02:25:34 am
      I know it's getting old but can't help myself ...he must have flipped the triangle!

      Too bad there's not a downvote button on here.
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38637: Sep 29, 2016 02:30:14 am
      Too bad there's not a downvote button on here.

      -1 for bad wind-up attempt.
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38638: Sep 29, 2016 03:03:06 am

      Which one? :laugh:
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38639: Sep 29, 2016 05:37:34 am
      Thats a cracking response the being trashed by Barcelona. Well fine Brendan. I see the game, but what exactly did Celtic do to break the city defence 3 time's?

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