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      bigmick
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38916: Aug 21, 2017 10:39:57 pm
      Astana - Kazakh side result of a merger between 2 clubs in 2009 so new side with a bit of money.  They have won their league last 3 seasons.  Got to the CL groups 2015/16 where they had home draws against Athletico Madrid and Benfica and drew home and away to Galaatasray.  Last season Celtic knocked them out of CL and they played in the EL where they had wins against Bate and Apoel and draws against Young boys and Olympiakos.  This season they knocked out Legia Warsaw before the Celtic match.

      Some fairly decent results against some decent opposition.

      As for Dembele, has a hamstring problem still 3 or 4 weeks away.  Fantastic potential has all the right attributes and will become a top player being very sensibly managed at the moment - I think another season or to at Celtic then he will move on - BR very keen to keep but if a big offer comes in then...ach we'll have to see


      Fair play mate you know a billion per cent more about them than me. It appears that Brendan is doing a fine job up there, I'm pleased for him and for you guys. He is IMHO a top manager.
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      Reply #38917: Aug 28, 2017 09:31:21 pm
      Well Brendan you have done a superb job at Celtic so far...but I can't let this fashion faux pas go! That jacket makes him look like he's dressed up as The Wizard Of Oz...a porno remake of The Wizard Of Oz no less! Points off for laughing in the face of a demented old man as well. Not classy!



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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38918: Sep 04, 2017 06:04:16 pm
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      Reply #38919: Sep 05, 2017 04:07:38 am

      Doing what he does best, bullshitting again!!
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38920: Sep 05, 2017 09:02:54 am
      Brendan Rodgers in talking out of his arse throwing out clichés shock...
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38921: Sep 05, 2017 12:06:24 pm

      Yeah must be really difficult being what is like the only professional team in an amateur standard league.
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38922: Sep 05, 2017 08:09:55 pm
      One of the biggest paradox's on this forum is when people absolutely queue up to put the the boot in to the poster who is "obsessed with Benitez" and who "can't let it go", then can't help themselves over Rodgers  :lmao:. It really is extremely odd that a bloke who left us a few seasons back, who came closer to winning the league than anyone has for a while gets lambasted to the extent he does, with quite such zeal by real Liverpool fans. It's nothing short of strange.

      As for the "pressure" of managing Celtic, well in the sense of the pressure to win the league of course he is right. We haven't won it for a generation, so it would be unfair to heap "pressure" on Jürgen and say he HAS to win it in the same way that Rodgers is/was expected to do it at Celtic.

      It showed up how much "pressure" he was under when he domestically went the entire season last time unbeaten, won every single piece of silverware available (for the first time it's ever been achieved anywhere to the best of my knowledge) and still "the lads" were falling over themselves to stick knives in ;D. Just because a team has won titles for many years consecutively, the league still needs winning whoever is the manager. As we all know, there are amny examples of managers taking over league champion winning teams, Champions League winning teams etc and not managing to keep it going.

      Pressure? Don't know about that, but it's funny seeing the reaction anyway  :lmao:.
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      Reply #38923: Sep 05, 2017 08:39:56 pm
      Pressure? Don't know about that, but it's funny seeing the reaction anyway

      Meh, Rodgers talks out of his arse & throws out clichés, always will... Previous LFC manager or not..
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      Reply #38924: Sep 05, 2017 09:04:28 pm
      One of the biggest paradox's on this forum is when people absolutely queue up to put the the boot in to the poster who is "obsessed with Benitez" and who "can't let it go", then can't help themselves over Rodgers  :lmao:. It really is extremely odd that a bloke who left us a few seasons back, who came closer to winning the league than anyone has for a while gets lambasted to the extent he does, with quite such zeal by real Liverpool fans. It's nothing short of strange.

      As for the "pressure" of managing Celtic, well in the sense of the pressure to win the league of course he is right. We haven't won it for a generation, so it would be unfair to heap "pressure" on Jürgen and say he HAS to win it in the same way that Rodgers is/was expected to do it at Celtic.

      It showed up how much "pressure" he was under when he domestically went the entire season last time unbeaten, won every single piece of silverware available (for the first time it's ever been achieved anywhere to the best of my knowledge) and still "the lads" were falling over themselves to stick knives in ;D. Just because a team has won titles for many years consecutively, the league still needs winning whoever is the manager. As we all know, there are amny examples of managers taking over league champion winning teams, Champions League winning teams etc and not managing to keep it going.

      Pressure? Don't know about that, but it's funny seeing the reaction anyway  :lmao:.

      Behave Mick, pressure has correlation to the difficulty of the task. Otherwise it would be like saying I'm under tremendous pressure to breath every day otherwise I'll die. Some things come naturally, just as winning the league at Celtic does at the moment, I've supreme confidence I could manage them to the title just as you could or anyone with a degree of competency. Trying to defend Brendan's completely false and hilarious statements is what makes me laugh.

      The pressure for Jürgen to get top 4 last season was palpable, on that run in you could feel it mount and you could feel exactly how he had to man manage the players and their mentality. Change their willingness to internalise the expectence of failure and normalise that pressure to something we should thrive in and become accustomed to, because if we want to succeed that pressure will remain a constant throughout their time with us. Trying to suggest Brendan and his players had anywhere near that is a joke mate, hence why his comments make me laugh to this day.
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38925: Sep 05, 2017 10:21:03 pm
      Trying to suggest Brendan and his players had anywhere near that is a joke mate


      I'm not "trying to suggest" anything of the kind Luke. I'm simply saying (as I said earlier, that IN TERMS OF WINNING THE LEAGUE) of course he was/is under greater pressure. Simply because (as you say), they really ought to win it and arguably anyone competent could make it happen, whereas we are up against it. You could equally argue that his task has been made easier with purchases such as Mouussa Dembele and Scott Sinclair (which he made), but it's not an argument I'm going to get into.

      Quite simply Brendan is playing to the gallery, just like all managers do. Just like Jürgen does when he claims Anfield has an atmosphere which compares day in and out with Borrussia Dortmunds home ground (of course it doesn't, no English ground does if we're honest). Like I say, ALL managers do it, it just amuses me how you and your fellow cohorts simply can't let it and him go.

      FWIW Brendan DOES talk bollocks, he always has ;D. AND his teeth look too bright, AND he wears daft clobber sometimes. He IS though, a pretty decent manager and is proving it again at Celtic. 
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38926: Sep 06, 2017 10:20:00 am
      Trying to suggest Brendan and his players had anywhere near that is a joke mate


      I'm not "trying to suggest" anything of the kind Luke. I'm simply saying (as I said earlier, that IN TERMS OF WINNING THE LEAGUE) of course he was/is under greater pressure. Simply because (as you say), they really ought to win it and arguably anyone competent could make it happen, whereas we are up against it. You could equally argue that his task has been made easier with purchases such as Mouussa Dembele and Scott Sinclair (which he made), but it's not an argument I'm going to get into.

      Quite simply Brendan is playing to the gallery, just like all managers do. Just like Jürgen does when he claims Anfield has an atmosphere which compares day in and out with Borrussia Dortmunds home ground (of course it doesn't, no English ground does if we're honest). Like I say, ALL managers do it, it just amuses me how you and your fellow cohorts simply can't let it and him go.

      FWIW Brendan DOES talk bollocks, he always has ;D. AND his teeth look too bright, AND he wears daft clobber sometimes. He IS though, a pretty decent manager and is proving it again at Celtic. 

      From the interview I read, what Brendan said was "There's a different type of pressure at Celtic".
      Where he said they were expect to win every game.
      In fairness. They are.

      I know Brendan love a soundbite and cliché, but for a season he was great here until a shambolic transfer window undid everything.
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      Reply #38927: Sep 06, 2017 10:42:57 am
      From the interview I read, what Brendan said was "There's a different type of pressure at Celtic".
      Where he said they were expect to win every game.
      In fairness. They are.

      I know Brendan love a soundbite and cliché, but for a season he was great here until a shambolic transfer window undid everything.
      Brendan speaking utter bollocks. Thank **** he is gone if he thinks Celtic is pressure. They won with a 30 points margin, he could totally mess up the transfer window and have a season riddled with injuries and still win the league. There is no competition there... if that is pressure then thank goodness he is not here.
      As for when he was here, he has Suarez, Coutinho and Sturridge on peak form and didn't win the league. He was woeful in the transfer window and just labelled a losing team as character all the time.
      He is to blame for below defense and goalkeeper.

      Moreno Lovren Skrtel Flanno

                  Mignolet

      He made a handful of good signings, but mostly rubbish;

      Fabio Borini
      Oussama Assaidi
      Nuri Sahin
      Samed Yesil
      Luis Alberto
      Iago Aspas
      Simon Mignolet
      Kolo Toure 
      Tiago Ilori 
      Victor Moses
      Rickie Lambert 
      Lazar Markovic
      Dejan Lovren
      Javier Manquillo
      Alberto Moreno
      Mario Balotelli
      Adam Bogdan
      Christian Benteke     

      He's on par with Roy Hodgson. If Roy went to Celtic he would say: Thewe is awot of pwessure at cewltic, he'd win the league by 30 points and people will not give him the same credit as they are giving Rodgers.
      I would say neither of them are anywhere near Klopps level and Klopp is better than Rafa too, two of Newcastle's results on August;

      Huddersfield Town 1 Newcastle United 0
      Newcastle United 2 Nottingham Forest 3
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38928: Sep 06, 2017 10:46:55 am
      Trying to suggest Brendan and his players had anywhere near that is a joke mate


      I'm not "trying to suggest" anything of the kind Luke. I'm simply saying (as I said earlier, that IN TERMS OF WINNING THE LEAGUE) of course he was/is under greater pressure. Simply because (as you say), they really ought to win it and arguably anyone competent could make it happen, whereas we are up against it. You could equally argue that his task has been made easier with purchases such as Mouussa Dembele and Scott Sinclair (which he made), but it's not an argument I'm going to get into.

      Quite simply Brendan is playing to the gallery, just like all managers do. Just like Jürgen does when he claims Anfield has an atmosphere which compares day in and out with Borrussia Dortmunds home ground (of course it doesn't, no English ground does if we're honest). Like I say, ALL managers do it, it just amuses me how you and your fellow cohorts simply can't let it and him go.

      FWIW Brendan DOES talk bollocks, he always has ;D. AND his teeth look too bright, AND he wears daft clobber sometimes. He IS though, a pretty decent manager and is proving it again at Celtic. 

      Winning at Celtic is no yardstick though BigMick, especially at the moment, they have by far the best team and by a long long way. You could argue that they probably don't even need a manager, that is how dominant they are. If those players just met up and went out on the pitch they'd beat anyone else in the league. The yardstick, and "pressure" for Bendan, is Europe but then again no one expects Celtic to do well in Europe so that's not really pressure either. To claim Brendan is under pressure at Celtic is utter crap, its the easiest job in football, I honestly can't think of a more one-sided league in the world.

      Biggest title-winning margins in European top-division title races
      31 points: Paris Saint-Germain (France, 2015/16)
      30 points: Celtic (Scotland, 2016/17)
      29: Celtic (Scotland, 2013/14)

      28 = Olympiacos (Greece, 2015/16)
      28 = Dinamo Zagreb (Croatia, 2007/08)
      27 = Skonto (Latvia, 1997)
      27 = The New Saints (Wales 2016/17)
      26 = København (Denmark, 2010/11)
      26 = Barry Town (Wales, 1997/98)
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      Reply #38929: Sep 06, 2017 11:05:47 am
      Winning at Celtic is no yardstick though BigMick, especially at the moment, they have by far the best team and by a long long way. You could argue that they probably don't even need a manager, that is how dominant they are. If those players just met up and went out on the pitch they'd beat anyone else in the league. The yardstick, and "pressure" for Bendan, is Europe but then again no one expects Celtic to do well in Europe so that's not really pressure either. To claim Brendan is under pressure at Celtic is utter crap, its the easiest job in football, I honestly can't think of a more one-sided league in the world.

      Biggest title-winning margins in European top-division title races
      31 points: Paris Saint-Germain (France, 2015/16)
      30 points: Celtic (Scotland, 2016/17)
      29: Celtic (Scotland, 2013/14)

      28 = Olympiacos (Greece, 2015/16)
      28 = Dinamo Zagreb (Croatia, 2007/08)
      27 = Skonto (Latvia, 1997)
      27 = The New Saints (Wales 2016/17)
      26 = København (Denmark, 2010/11)
      26 = Barry Town (Wales, 1997/98)
      I agree. Even if he didn't win the league, which will never happen at Celtic, the worse that can happen is he can get fired and receive millions on compensation. It's hardly pressure. Doctors and Nurses are under pressure, Soilder's are under pressure...Some people saying Celtic manager is pressure? ..... I heard it all now.
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38930: Sep 06, 2017 11:15:16 am
      Brendan speaking utter bollocks.

      Pot, kettle.
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      Reply #38931: Sep 06, 2017 11:20:09 am
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      Reply #38932: Sep 06, 2017 11:22:15 am
      I'll be honest, the day he was appointed & after watching the documentary of him pulling over Sterling & his 3 envelope gag I could not relate to the man, however as well documented and held up by some as an achievement that he 'almost' won the league.

      I'll give him the 'almost' recognition.

      But he F***ing embarrassed us in Europe.
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      Reply #38933: Sep 06, 2017 11:40:43 am
      But he f**king embarrassed us in Europe.

      The team that he fielded at the Bernabeau was such an embarrassing day. To the players' credit, they lost "only" 1-0 (typing those statements is repulsive enough). That must have been the exact day when he would have lost the "on the fence" fans.

      I try not to bad mouth him because he was once the manager of LFC and during his tenure he did not bad-mouth the club or the fans, unlike Woy, who was cosying upto Ferguson, uttering stupid statements about the Scandinavian reds when he was touring one of the Scandinavian countries etc...
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      Reply #38934: Sep 06, 2017 12:27:06 pm
      Say what you want about him but his teeth and fashion sense are second to none.

      ;D

      ;D proper fashionista him.
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      Reply #38935: Sep 06, 2017 07:54:15 pm
      Trying to suggest Brendan and his players had anywhere near that is a joke mate


      I'm not "trying to suggest" anything of the kind Luke. I'm simply saying (as I said earlier, that IN TERMS OF WINNING THE LEAGUE) of course he was/is under greater pressure. Simply because (as you say), they really ought to win it and arguably anyone competent could make it happen, whereas we are up against it. You could equally argue that his task has been made easier with purchases such as Mouussa Dembele and Scott Sinclair (which he made), but it's not an argument I'm going to get into.

      Quite simply Brendan is playing to the gallery, just like all managers do. Just like Jürgen does when he claims Anfield has an atmosphere which compares day in and out with Borrussia Dortmunds home ground (of course it doesn't, no English ground does if we're honest). Like I say, ALL managers do it, it just amuses me how you and your fellow cohorts simply can't let it and him go.

      FWIW Brendan DOES talk bollocks, he always has ;D. AND his teeth look too bright, AND he wears daft clobber sometimes. He IS though, a pretty decent manager and is proving it again at Celtic. 

      Yea, absolutely right.
      There's not one manager you couldn't pull plenty of quotes from, then laugh while tearing them to pieces.
      Wenger, Maureen, pick ANY name ... every SINGLE manager does it ie. makes statements targeted at certain audiences, or to be defensive of their side, or just to be plain stubborn etc. ... and make f**k all sense to a rational person.

      He has his quirks, sure...  but at the end of the day, whatever he might be 'saying', his record last season is all the talking that matters for now..
      Scottish Premiership, Scottish Cup, Scottish League Cup

      I get it people like to take the piss, but you have to row in occassionally .. :)
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      Re: Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread
      Reply #38936: Sep 06, 2017 09:15:31 pm
      If you read the context he was saying that there were games where it was "ok" to get an away point for LFC supporters, while at Celtic, the supporters expect to win every single game.

      He's absolutely right and it's a sad indictment of some of our fans that they are ok with an away draw. Don't believe it, go check a game thread where people will make any excuse for a draw (and sometimes a loss).
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      Reply #38937: Sep 06, 2017 10:13:45 pm
      He's absolutely right and it's a sad indictment of some of our fans that they are ok with an away draw. Don't believe it, go check a game thread where people will make any excuse for a draw (and sometimes a loss).

      Maybe a bit of perspective?

      Celtic playing in the SPL is the equivalent of us playing in the Eliteserien..if we played there then I would also be fuming if we did not win every match by a hat-trick.

      We play in the richest most competitive league in the world...Celtic is a killer whale inside a fish farm.

      Ask any of top 6 managers in the PL if they are OK with an away draw with any of the other top 6 sides ....In private you'd get one answer....."Sound that"
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      Reply #38938: Sep 06, 2017 10:22:00 pm
      Say what you want about him but his teeth and fashion sense are second to none.

      ;D

      You can tell his lass helps picks his clothes...

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