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      General Transfer rumours/gossip thread

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      heimdall
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      Reply #33330: Dec 28, 2017 04:48:54 pm

      Bloody hell this club is like a bus

      Not sure about Lovren but it would be hard to make a case for 6 CB's at the club (assuming we classify Gomez as a CB).

      Can we get 2 Goalies in as well now please.

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      Reply #33331: Dec 28, 2017 04:49:42 pm

      No idea if reliable.

      Now that we've brought the first choice, this one looks far more interesting for the future.
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      Reply #33332: Dec 28, 2017 04:53:46 pm
      Bloody hell this club is like a bus

      Not sure about Lovren but it would be hard to make a case for 6 CB's at the club (assuming we classify Gomez as a CB).

      Can we get 2 Goalies in as well now please.



      Don't need 2. Just need a top one and put Karius on the bench. Just don't rotate them as much as we do currently.
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      Reply #33333: Dec 28, 2017 04:56:14 pm
      Don't need 2. Just need a top one and put Karius on the bench. Just don't rotate them as much as we do currently.

      In all seriousness if we could also get a top notch goalie who is not cup tied in the CL then I think we can seriously start have a little dream about old big ears #6
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      Reply #33334: Dec 28, 2017 04:57:17 pm
      I would think Matip and VVD in starting XI. We should get another RB and have Gomez covering CB. Buying Manuel Akanji will be bad for Gomez. He shouldn't stay on the flank.
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      Reply #33335: Dec 28, 2017 04:58:05 pm
      I would think Matip and VVD in starting XI. We should get another RB and have Gomez covering CB. Buying Manuel Akanji will be bad for Gomez. He shouldn't stay on the flank.

      I don't know, I think he's a very good RB and we seem a little too keen to move him over to a centre back.
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      Reply #33336: Dec 28, 2017 05:01:30 pm
      I don't know, I think he's a very good RB and we seem a little too keen to move him over to a centre back.
      I've seen him play CB before. He's at a different level to how he plays at right back. We're not getting his full potential. He's probably Englands best centre back. He's a good RB but better CB.
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      Reply #33337: Dec 28, 2017 05:04:52 pm
      I've seen him play CB before. He's at a different level to how he plays at right back. We're not getting his full potential. He's probably Englands best centre back. He's a good RB but better CB.

      Fair, I've not seen much of him at CB.
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      Reply #33338: Dec 28, 2017 05:05:48 pm
      I've seen him play CB before. He's at a different level to how he plays at right back. We're not getting his full potential. He's probably Englands best centre back. He's a good RB but better CB.

      He's not England's best centre back, not even close.
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      Reply #33339: Dec 28, 2017 05:07:26 pm
      He's not England's best centre back, not even close.
      He was MOTM against Brazil. He saved our bacon all game. Gomez 0 - 0 Brazil on his debut. Guess you missed that. 1 game best on pitch.
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      Reply #33340: Dec 28, 2017 05:08:08 pm
      He's not England's best centre back, not even close.

      Let’s be straight - he’s not even our best CB (not including VVD) he’s just an outstandingly good prospect who’s had to play too much this season.

      Like it or lump it - Jürgen isn’t playing him at CB because he’s NOT better than Lovren, Klavan and Matip. Not yet.
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      Reply #33341: Dec 28, 2017 05:15:02 pm
      He was MOTM against Brazil. He saved our bacon all game. Gomez 0 - 0 Brazil on his debut. Guess you missed that. 1 game best on pitch.

      It was a pointless friendly. No I didn't miss it, I watched it all, solely because he was playing and I wanted to see how he performed.
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      Reply #33342: Dec 28, 2017 05:21:01 pm
      I've seen him play CB before. He's at a different level to how he plays at right back. We're not getting his full potential. He's probably Englands best centre back. He's a good RB but better CB.

      I think he's played like 3 games at cb for Liverpool. 1 at England full and a couple for the u21s.

      As opposed to 44 games or so at left or right back

      Not sure as yet you can say theres enough evidence to say he's a better cb than full back
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      Reply #33343: Dec 28, 2017 05:28:52 pm
      I think he's played like 3 games at cb for Liverpool. 1 at England full and a couple for the u21s.

      As opposed to 44 games or so at left or right back

      Not sure as yet you can say theres enough evidence to say he's a better cb than full back

      I was thinking the same !!! Maybe Ribapuru watched him during his Charlton days when he was at youth and seniors? :D
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      Reply #33344: Dec 28, 2017 05:31:05 pm
      I was thinking the same !!! Maybe Ribapuru watched him during his Charlton days when he was at youth and seniors? :D

      Even at Charlton he played around  25 times all in....And and I'm fairly sure at the time we signed him it said that he was a versatile youngster who had played right back and CB during his brief career.
      Because the surprise was Rodgers started him at left back rather than right back where he had been playing for Charlton

      I think he will ultimately be a cb but I'm.not sure the evidence is there currently to say he far better there and indeed   England's best cb
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      Reply #33345: Dec 28, 2017 05:31:48 pm
      I actually think Gomez was playing his very best for us at left back under Rodgers, before he suffered a nasty injury. It was for a short period, and no, I don't think he should be a left back in the long term, but I do remember thinking he was sensational at the time.

      I do think he'll develop as a CB because he seems to be more naturally inclined to defend, and though he's comfortable on the ball, he doesn't really offer that much going forward.

      The trend in recent years has been of seeing quite a few fullbacks converted into central defenders in a 3-man backline (Azpilicueta and Monreal, for instance), and on occasion we've seen wingers playing as fullbacks or wingbacks, and in that environment I wouldn't expect a more defensive player like Gomez to be a long term option as a right back. But who knows, I think he's talented enough to have a decent career at more than one position.
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      Reply #33346: Dec 28, 2017 09:32:51 pm
      Was it in this thread that someone was saying Wilshere is no better than Henderson? Scandalous. Just Wilshere turning in a motm performance tonight gives him an edge over Henderson who I don’t recall ever being above a 7/10.

      Don’t mean to bash the lad, I like his commitment and energy but he is a far cry from that quality. Would put Wilshere in the same bracket as Lallana. We could do a lot worse than bringing him in. Not that it would happen.
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      Reply #33347: Dec 28, 2017 09:39:57 pm
      Some people will lap up anything they see being spouted on Twitter won't they? A bogus account claims that we have signed Goretzka and the whole world goes f**king bonkers :lmao: It's been said that he won't make his decision until next month but I guess that's too boring to believe.
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      Reply #33348: Dec 28, 2017 10:19:07 pm
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      Reply #33349: Dec 29, 2017 03:04:50 am
      Was it in this thread that someone was saying Wilshere is no better than Henderson? Scandalous. Just Wilshere turning in a motm performance tonight gives him an edge over Henderson who I don’t recall ever being above a 7/10.

      Don’t mean to bash the lad, I like his commitment and energy but he is a far cry from that quality. Would put Wilshere in the same bracket as Lallana. We could do a lot worse than bringing him in. Not that it would happen.

      If you think Wilshire and Lallana are the same bracket then you don't deserve to have your opinion taken seriously.
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      Reply #33350: Dec 29, 2017 03:17:51 am
      Was it in this thread that someone was saying Wilshere is no better than Henderson? Scandalous. Just Wilshere turning in a motm performance tonight gives him an edge over Henderson who I don’t recall ever being above a 7/10.

      Don’t mean to bash the lad, I like his commitment and energy but he is a far cry from that quality. Would put Wilshere in the same bracket as Lallana. We could do a lot worse than bringing him in. Not that it would happen.

      Based on a handful of performances in what, 4 years? Give it a rest
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      Reply #33351: Dec 29, 2017 09:54:56 am
      No idea if reliable.

      Now that we've brought the first choice, this one looks far more interesting for the future.

      From what I've read this is more a summer signing. Apparently Dortmund want him aswell but they want him in January where we would wait till the summer. So wether we have made an agreement with Basel to buy him now and let him stay at Basel till the summer seems more likely.
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      Reply #33352: Dec 29, 2017 01:27:44 pm
      https://en.as.com/en/2017/12/27/football/1514364857_611109.html

      Carrasco is available in January. Usually operates on the left of midfield
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      Reply #33353: Dec 29, 2017 01:42:06 pm
      If you think Wilshire and Lallana are the same bracket then you don't deserve to have your opinion taken seriously.
      Says you.

      In terms of quality, yes. As our friend has pointed out above he has not played a whole lot of games in the last few years. Regardless, he is a better player than Henderson when he is fit, i’m sure most would agree.
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      Reply #33354: Dec 29, 2017 01:42:53 pm
      https://en.as.com/en/2017/12/27/football/1514364857_611109.html

      Carrasco is available in January. Usually operates on the left of midfield


      I really don't rate him, he is not a flexible wide player and seems very one dimensional everytime I have seen him play, very much like your Lennon and Wright-Phillips type.
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      Reply #33355: Dec 29, 2017 01:47:04 pm

      I really don't rate him, he is not a flexible wide player and seems very one dimensional everytime I have seen him play, very much like your Lennon and Wright-Phillips type.

      Fair enough, I remember him playing very well for Atletico in their latest Champions League run but I haven't watched him regularly in a while. Just thought it was an interesting name we may consider if we indeed lose Coutinho, but I think our top target would still be Lemar
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      Reply #33356: Dec 29, 2017 01:53:17 pm
      Fair enough, I remember him playing very well for Atletico in their latest Champions League run but I haven't watched him regularly in a while. Just thought it was an interesting name we may consider if we indeed lose Coutinho, but I think our top target would still be Lemar

      Yeah, watched him during that run too and leagues games and wasn't overly impressed,I just think he relies on his pace and doesn't have a great end product, but then again, he is only 24 I guess.

      But then again, I rated Lucas and Spearing whilst a lot didn't, so maybe he is good and I just don't like his style of play :D
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      Reply #33357: Dec 29, 2017 02:08:11 pm
      Says you.

      In terms of quality, yes. As our friend has pointed out above he has not played a whole lot of games in the last few years. Regardless, he is a better player than Henderson when he is fit, i’m sure most would agree.

      He's not even close mate. He's a complete dud.
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      Reply #33358: Dec 29, 2017 02:14:01 pm

      Regardless, he is a better player than Henderson when he is fit, i’m sure most would agree.

      Not even close to being on same level as Henderson.

      Miles off.
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      Reply #33359: Dec 29, 2017 03:26:02 pm
      Genuinely surprised people think Henderson is better than Wilshere (even as Liverpool fans) but there you go.

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