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      General Transfer rumours/gossip thread

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      MIRO
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      Re: General Transfer rumours/gossip thread
      Reply #36750: Jul 26, 2018 06:21:10 pm
      Liverpool v Scum: Transfer spending comparison since summer 2016

      Team   Total spend   Fees received   Total net spend
      Liverpool   £411.55m          £289.65m             £121.9m
      Man Utd   £392.55m          £85.3m             £307.25m

      Mourinho needs to hush his mouth.
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      Reply #36751: Jul 26, 2018 07:46:06 pm
      So you think we'll end up with a profit in the transfer market again, because so far, if you factor in the money form Coutinho we've only actually spent £25m, then add in Ward which was £10m I think and its so far a net spend of £15m with more sales to come. Surely there is more money in the kitty but it does of course depend on if Jürgen wants to buy any more players, 4 new players is already quite a lot.

      The last part. Much more about the team the architect is building.  I think there is no "kitty" per se. It's transfers in and out and the manager's needs. There are about 10 guys in our current squad who probably will never be first team regulars, there is no bad side to getting  a return on them, even if the money is for future windows and not now.
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      Reply #36752: Jul 27, 2018 12:26:30 pm
      Markovic is leaving for Olympiakos on a permanent deal.

      No mention of fee yet.

      Prob giving him away for free.
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      Reply #36753: Jul 27, 2018 01:21:36 pm
      what do you think about our CB rotation enough to sort out all tournaments this year?
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      Reply #36754: Jul 27, 2018 01:52:47 pm
      what do you think about our CB rotation enough to sort out all tournaments this year?

      If VVD gets injured we're in trouble.

      If not should be fine for season.

      Anyone next to VVD will play well.
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      Reply #36755: Jul 27, 2018 03:38:54 pm
      If VVD gets injured we're in trouble.

      If not should be fine for season.

      Anyone next to VVD will play well.

      In the big matches yes but we have enough talent at CB to cope without VVD now, especially with Allison and Fabinho now being in the team.
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      Reply #36756: Jul 27, 2018 06:46:06 pm
      Klopp said the other day how much he likes Pulisic. Now Pulisic has said how much he likes Klopp and Anfield. Let’s not have a Ross and Rachel situation of “will they, won’t they”....just get a transfer done and make each other (and us, very happy!)
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      Reply #36757: Jul 27, 2018 06:58:30 pm
      Klopp said the other day how much he likes Pulisic. Now Pulisic has said how much he likes Klopp and Anfield. Let’s not have a Ross and Rachel situation of “will they, won’t they”....just get a transfer done and make each other (and us, very happy!)

      I think we are done spending this window man. Something would have to come completely out of the blue and in this day and age, that's definitely the exception vs. the norm.
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      Reply #36758: Jul 27, 2018 07:03:29 pm
      I think we are done spending this window man. Something would have to come completely out of the blue and in this day and age, that's definitely the exception vs. the norm.

      Saw Pulisc's dad talking again...I don't think he is moving now..would not surprise me though in the next 6-12 months however.
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      Reply #36759: Jul 27, 2018 08:23:57 pm
      If VVD gets injured we're in trouble.

      If not should be fine for season.

      Anyone next to VVD will play well.

      VVD getting injured doesn't bother me half as much as Robertson getting injured and us having to put Moreno back in at left back. He seems to have an ability to instill a deep malaise in that area of the pitch once he comes in. He doesn't track back nearly as quickly as Robertson and his attacking play, despite being found in advanced positions quite often, leaves A LOT to be desired. Rarely does he pull off something that will result in something productive for our attack. And then there is his defending. He leaves acres of space in the left back area, struggles to get tight to his man, gets skinned far too often and generally looks a fool. He's very lucky to still be at Liverpool. The notion that he started last season well is a myth evidenced by the shitloads of goals we were letting in during those first couple of months. No one in our back line came out of that period well. We only really started to improve as a defence once Robbo cemented his place there and VVD and, though some people don't admit it, Karius became first choice in January.

      I would not hesitate to install Milner back in at left back in the event of Robbo not being available. Moreno is a complete non starter.
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      Re: General Transfer rumours/gossip thread
      Reply #36760: Jul 27, 2018 09:02:41 pm
      Saw Pulisc's dad talking again...I don't think he is moving now..would not surprise me though in the next 6-12 months however.

      He has 2 years in his contract! Unless Dortmund are confident of getting him to sign a new deal, they should ideally be looking at cashing in on him. He 'seems' to have outgrown the club, at least according to the media!
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      Reply #36761: Jul 27, 2018 09:24:24 pm
      He has 2 years in his contract! Unless Dortmund are confident of getting him to sign a new deal, they should ideally be looking at cashing in on him. He 'seems' to have outgrown the club, at least according to the media!

      I think they are confident of it, especially since they employ his dad.
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      Reply #36762: Jul 27, 2018 09:48:06 pm
      I think they are confident of it, especially since they employ his dad.

      Ah the old give the dad a token coaching job trick, never fails, but couldn't we just make the Dad our new assistant Goalkeeping coach or something.
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      Reply #36763: Jul 27, 2018 10:54:53 pm
      So if we sell Origi (27m), Ings (20m), Mignolet (12m), and Markovic (7m), our net spend will be under £90m for this window having strengthened the squad significantly and gotten rid of dead wood.

      Pretty impressive business that.

      It should also leave us with money for another player should Klopp still fancy one late addition.
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      Reply #36764: Jul 28, 2018 02:07:04 am
      VVD getting injured doesn't bother me half as much as Robertson getting injured and us having to put Moreno back in at left back. He seems to have an ability to instill a deep malaise in that area of the pitch once he comes in. He doesn't track back nearly as quickly as Robertson and his attacking play, despite being found in advanced positions quite often, leaves A LOT to be desired. Rarely does he pull off something that will result in something productive for our attack. And then there is his defending. He leaves acres of space in the left back area, struggles to get tight to his man, gets skinned far too often and generally looks a fool. He's very lucky to still be at Liverpool. The notion that he started last season well is a myth evidenced by the shitloads of goals we were letting in during those first couple of months. No one in our back line came out of that period well. We only really started to improve as a defence once Robbo cemented his place there and VVD and, though some people don't admit it, Karius became first choice in January.

      I would not hesitate to install Milner back in at left back in the event of Robbo not being available. Moreno is a complete non starter.

      His second half performance in the 2016 Europa League Final did it for me, he’s not good enough for a back up LB!!

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      Re: General Transfer rumours/gossip thread
      Reply #36765: Jul 28, 2018 04:17:18 am
      VVD getting injured doesn't bother me half as much as Robertson getting injured and us having to put Moreno back in at left back. He seems to have an ability to instill a deep malaise in that area of the pitch once he comes in. He doesn't track back nearly as quickly as Robertson and his attacking play, despite being found in advanced positions quite often, leaves A LOT to be desired. Rarely does he pull off something that will result in something productive for our attack. And then there is his defending. He leaves acres of space in the left back area, struggles to get tight to his man, gets skinned far too often and generally looks a fool. He's very lucky to still be at Liverpool. The notion that he started last season well is a myth evidenced by the shitloads of goals we were letting in during those first couple of months. No one in our back line came out of that period well. We only really started to improve as a defence once Robbo cemented his place there and VVD and, though some people don't admit it, Karius became first choice in January.

      I would not hesitate to install Milner back in at left back in the event of Robbo not being available. Moreno is a complete non starter.

      If Robertson gets injured or does a suarez and bites someone and we lose him for a considerable amount of time then I agree we will be in big trouble if Moreno gets a lengthy run in the side.

      If it's just an occasional rest for Robbo then I've got no problem with that though.

      It wasn't a myth, morenos performances did improve at the start of last season. I'm not saying his performances were good enough for Liverpool but his chaotic moments were much more limited. He seemed to have matured slightly and wasn't anywhere near as erratic.

      Moreno will make a big mistake every 3 or 4 games so a long run in the team worries me because we all know at some point he will cost us. Putting him in every now and then in one off games we will probably get away with it though.

      The same logic applies to Lovren which I've voiced my opinions on recently. He is similar to Moreno where he is a liability and he has big mistakes in him. They may not be as frequent as Moreno but they will still happen and just like Moreno, at some point, he will cost us.

      Having dejan in the squad and filling in for us every now and then wouldn't bother me. Just like Moreno we will probably get away with it.  But giving dejan a lengthy run in the team and what's worse even making him first choice alongside VVD then he will make big errors eventually and they will bite us on the arse.
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      Reply #36766: Jul 28, 2018 10:00:11 am
      If Robertson gets injured or does a suarez and bites someone and we lose him for a considerable amount of time then I agree we will be in big trouble if Moreno gets a lengthy run in the side.

      If it's just an occasional rest for Robbo then I've got no problem with that though.

      It wasn't a myth, morenos performances did improve at the start of last season. I'm not saying his performances were good enough for Liverpool but his chaotic moments were much more limited. He seemed to have matured slightly and wasn't anywhere near as erratic.

      Moreno will make a big mistake every 3 or 4 games so a long run in the team worries me because we all know at some point he will cost us. Putting him in every now and then in one off games we will probably get away with it though.

      The same logic applies to Lovren which I've voiced my opinions on recently. He is similar to Moreno where he is a liability and he has big mistakes in him. They may not be as frequent as Moreno but they will still happen and just like Moreno, at some point, he will cost us.

      Having dejan in the squad and filling in for us every now and then wouldn't bother me. Just like Moreno we will probably get away with it.  But giving dejan a lengthy run in the team and what's worse even making him first choice alongside VVD then he will make big errors eventually and they will bite us on the arse.

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      Reply #36767: Jul 28, 2018 10:04:14 am
      Christian Pulisic rejected a new contract offer with dortmund  :blush: :blush:
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      Reply #36768: Jul 28, 2018 10:16:55 am

      Or Clyne, if needs must, I think we have adequate cover throughout the defence. I wouldn't mind another top CB but I think we are ok in that department as well.
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      Reply #36769: Jul 28, 2018 10:29:13 am
      Christian Pulisic rejected a new contract offer with dortmund  :blush: :blush:

      He’s apparently in the shop window according to Bild. Was Klopp serious when he said you have no be ready if the opportunity arises? And if so, will the 70m be palatable for a 19 year old?
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      Reply #36770: Jul 28, 2018 10:49:13 am
      He’s apparently in the shop window according to Bild. Was Klopp serious when he said you have no be ready if the opportunity arises? And if so, will the 70m be palatable for a 19 year old?

      If he is available, we would be idiots not to sign him.  With the World Cup coming to America in 8 years, Pulisic is primed to be leading the USMNT.  He will be worth 70M as a marketing ploy for that reason alone.  Plus, hes a decent little player 😎
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      Reply #36771: Jul 28, 2018 10:51:01 am
      We have to go for Pulisic.

      He will be worth 3 times the asking price in 12 months.

      Can play anywhere in the forward line even as a number 10.

      Jürgen you know what to do!
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      Reply #36772: Jul 28, 2018 12:09:32 pm
      So if we sell Origi (27m), Ings (20m), Mignolet (12m), and Markovic (7m), our net spend will be under £90m for this window having strengthened the squad significantly and gotten rid of dead wood.

      Pretty impressive business that.

      It should also leave us with money for another player should Klopp still fancy one late addition.

      If we get the figures you mention will show my ass at town clock
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      Reply #36773: Jul 28, 2018 12:24:53 pm
      If we get the figures you mention will show my ass at town clock

      Net we get close to on all except Markovic who looks to be going on loan for the last 12 months of his deal then leaving on a free
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      Reply #36774: Jul 28, 2018 12:34:28 pm
      Net we get close to on all except Markovic who looks to be going on loan for the last 12 months of his deal then leaving on a free

      Hope your right but if we get 27m for Origi on showing in last year it would  beat anything we have done

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