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      Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Jan 07, 2013 12:45:43 pm
      Liverpool striker Luis SuƔrez cannot be blamed for carrying out his job and acting like any other player would have
      by Alan Hansen

      Liverpool striker Luis SuƔrez cannot be blamed for carrying out his job and acting like any other player

      Whatever moral high ground you take over Luis SuƔrez's goal, no footballer would ever ask for a goal to be disallowed.

      It has never happened in the history of the game. It will never happen in my lifetime.

      What exactly was SuƔrez supposed to do? Run to the referee and tell him it hit his hand? His team-mates would go berserk, and his manager would not be too impressed either.

      The first thing to make clear is Liverpool's second goal in the third round cup tie was not a deliberate handball.

      There is no way SuƔrez has moved his arm to control it. If anything, it looks as if he is trying to move his hand away when it has hit him.

      The speed it was travelling, it simply ricocheted forward and struck him at angle which, unfortunately, the officials could not see.

      You can tell from SuƔrez's reaction he expected it to be disallowed and when it wasn't, he has decided to get on with the game. It is not like he ran off celebrating.

      He did exactly what anyone who has ever played professional football - and anyone who plays in the future - would do in the same situation.

      There will be outrage about it, firstly, because it was a high-profile incident in a high-profile game. Second, because it is SuƔrez. He has become an easy target.

      I can imagine if other players were at the centre of such a controversy it would be simply shrugged off as a stroke of luck - or bad luck so far as Mansfield are concerned - and the debate would not focus so much on the identity of the goalscorer.

      People like football to be black and white on these issues, encouraging a sense of ethics within the game. It is idealistic but has no basis in reality.

      Take that argument to the logical conclusion and you'd never need a referee or linesman.

      Every time a foul is not given, a defender can ask to stop the play and inform the opponent he just mistimed a tackle.

      Take Craig Gardner for Sunderland against Spurs last week. Would anyone have expected him to ask the referee to rescind the booking against Gareth Bale - a caution that earned the Tottenham player a suspension - and admit he did make contact and a penalty should have been awarded?

      Better still, all those who are outraged by SuƔrez's goal yesterday can tell their own side next weekend to admit every handball, every shirt tug and every wrongly flagged offside that benefits their own team.

      They can say they are doing so in the spirit of the game.

      Where do you draw the line?

      I was involved in an incident in the 1984 League Cup final against Everton. I was in my own penalty box, the ball hit my thigh and bounced onto my arm.

      The penalty was not given. Are people saying I should have been running to the referee and telling him it might have been a spot kick?

      It is a nonsensical argument which shows no understanding of how the game is played, or the stakes for those at the highest level when the action is moving so quickly.

      One of the first things I was taught as a youngster breaking into the first team was if I ever make a foul, particularly in the box, never look at the referee. It is seen as an admission of guilt and he is more likely to give it.

      So, you are trying to get away with fouls. Is that cheating too? Of course not. You are playing within the boundaries all the time, and it is for the officials to determine where there has been a misdemeanour.

      That is why there will be no moral condemnation from anyone within the game for what happened. Managers and players know that next week it could be their own team benefiting from such an incident.

      There have been one or two situations where players have been acclaimed for their sportsmanship - Robbie Fowler telling the referee not to award a penalty against David Seaman in the early 1990s springs to mind. You will not find too many others.

      The sad thing for SuƔrez is his reputation goes before him. In recent weeks he has been staying on his feet far more and there have been fewer incidents where opponents have accused him of diving.

      He scored a goal against Sunderland recently where he could easily have thrown himself to the floor, but instead he retained his balance and scored. Nobody seemed to say much about the honesty of his play in that case.

      Yesterday, SuƔrez simply followed the golden rule every youngster is taught when he first plays football. "Play to the whistle." If that whistle does not come, it's the fault of the referee, not the player.

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      I think Alan is right on the money here. Suarez simply can't be blamed for doing what every other player WOULD have done.
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #1: Jan 07, 2013 12:49:06 pm
      Even Graham Poll said he was not to blame.I think most reasonable people will see the sh*t this lad has had in the media is unfounded and unfair and he has never complained.
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      Reply #2: Jan 07, 2013 12:55:01 pm
      Good piece. The Telegraph, it is? I'm glad to see some journals are willing to carry sensible articles like this one, instead of just erupting in hysterical screaming. (Don't get me started on the DMail).
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #3: Jan 07, 2013 01:14:29 pm
      I love the way everyone and their uncle is calling him a cheat for that handball. It was accidental, he didn't peel off celebrating either. If RVP scored that goal there wouldn't be any talk at all.
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      Reply #4: Jan 07, 2013 01:21:49 pm
      The Independent have compared it to hand of god, and that k*nt on ESPN called him a cheat.

      WTF !
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      Reply #5: Jan 07, 2013 01:24:51 pm
      Alan Hansen is spot on. The hypocrisy is astounding.
      I look forward to RVP scoring against us next Sunday , with his hand , and him and Fergie immediately telling the ref to disallow it.
       There's more chance of me being the next person to walk on the Moon !
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #6: Jan 07, 2013 01:57:55 pm
      Picture the scene next week, Luis Suarez is bearing down on goal before he's clipped by Rio Ferdinand on the edge of the box at Old Trafford. The referee (obviously not Howard Webb) waves away the incident before Rio picks himself up, wanders over to the official and mutters: "Actually ref, it was a foul, it was just inside the area, and as I was last man, I probably deserve a red card." How likely do you think that is on a scale of one to ridiculously unlikely?

      That's what some sanctimonious soccer lovers seem to think Suarez should have done after his inadvertent handball, in their eyes, poured petrol all over the romance of the FA Cup. He's no Miroslav Klose, but then few players are. His problem is that his previous, rightly in some circumstances, makes him an easy target. Remember Suarez claiming "the hand of God now belongs to me" after his save against Ghana at the World Cup? Or being booked against Southampton for trying to punch the ball into the net?

      The ignorance of those claiming he kissed his hand to goad the non-league side is also laughable - he does that after each goal he scores. Mansfield's chief exec Carolyn Radford reckoned a replay had been "stolen" from her plucky players, but at least their manager admitted he'd have taken the goal had it happened at Mansfield's attacking end.

      So, for once, and for one week only, I'm launching my Lay off Luis (;D) campaign and to underline the point, answer this teaser posed by a TV pundit: you park on a double yellow line and nip to the shops for 20 minutes. When you return there's no parking ticket on your car. Do you phone up the local council and insist they hand you a Ā£60 fine for your wrongdoing? Do you heck.

      http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/1291229/the-fifth-official:-the-;D-campaign,-chelsea-raise-ba?cc=5901

      This is from a regular joke piece that ESPN always runs (takes the piss out of every club). But here it is absolutely spot on.
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #7: Jan 07, 2013 02:01:34 pm
      Picture the scene next week, Luis Suarez is bearing down on goal before he's clipped by Rio Ferdinand on the edge of the box at Old Trafford. The referee (obviously not Howard Webb) waves away the incident before Rio picks himself up, wanders over to the official and mutters: "Actually ref, it was a foul, it was just inside the area, and as I was last man, I probably deserve a red card." How likely do you think that is on a scale of one to ridiculously unlikely?



      http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/1291229/the-fifth-official:-the-;D-campaign,-chelsea-raise-ba?cc=5901

      This is from a regular joke piece that ESPN always runs (takes the piss out of every club). But here it is absolutely spot on.

      I didn't read any further than that opening paragraph, couldn't have said it better myself. Posted this in the player thread but here is SSN:

      In defence of Suarez
      Liverpool striker Luis Suarez is back in the spotlight after his controversial goal against Mansfield, but Rob Parrish argues that the Uruguay international should not be castigated for what happened in Sunday's FA Cup third round clash.
      By Rob Parrish - Follow me on Twitter @skysportsrobp.      Last Updated: January 7, 2013 1:38pm
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      Luis Suarez: Ball strikes Liverpool forward on the hand ahead of his goal against Mansfield
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      Another Monday morning, another media storm surrounding Luis Suarez.

      The Liverpool striker has been pilloried from numerous quarters after scoring what proved to be the decisive goal in Sunday's FA Cup third round victory over non-league Mansfield at Field Mill with the aid of a significant deflection off his arm.

      Some were swift to rush to judgement, with ESPN commentator Jon Champion stating in the heat of the moment: "That, I'm afraid, is the work of a cheat," while Mansfield chief executive Carolyn Radford said: "It feels a bit like it was stolen from us. Whether it was deliberate or not, it should be sorted out."

      Mansfield boss: Suarez not to blame
      Others, including Mansfield manager Paul Cox, were more measured as he admitted: "I don't want to say anything bad about him because he is a fabulous talent, and if the shoe was on the other foot then we would have taken it," while goalkeeper Alan Marriott added: "It happens. I don't think you can call him a cheat. I know a lot of people have done in the past. But every man, from a Sunday League football team to the Premier League, is going to do that and if it gives you an advantage and you can get away with it, then unfortunately that's football."

      The incident has divided opinion, but perhaps many of those rushing to berate the Liverpool striker could do with reacquainting themselves with FIFA's rules of the game, which state:

      Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with his hand or arm. The referee must take the following into consideration:

      ā€¢ the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)

      ā€¢ the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)

      ā€¢ the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an infringement

      "Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with his hand or arm."
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      The key word here is 'deliberate'. Not even the most myopic Liverpool supporter would attempt to claim that the ball did not strike Suarez's hand. But is there 'movement of the hand towards the ball'? Not conclusively.

      This is why referee Andre Marriner was absolutely correct to allow the goal to stand, and why Suarez does not deserve the current round of condemnation. This is not a Diego Maradona or Thierry Henry moment.

      The Uruguay international, as anyone with a passing interest in football will be aware, is no stranger to controversy, some of which is of his own volition, some of which he has already been penalised for.


      Suarez against Ghana
      His handball on the line against Ghana in the World Cup quarter-final of 2010 in the dying seconds of extra time took the notion of good sportsmanship and delivered a firm kick to the nether regions. The same year saw the then-Ajax striker was handed a seven-match ban for biting PSV Eindhoven's Otman Bakkal. A further lengthy, and perhaps most infamous, suspension was meted out when the Football Association found Suarez guilty of racially abusing Manchester United's Patrice Evra in 2011. That's more than enough, without even mentioning the word diving.

      Given his past indiscretions, there have been suggestions that Suarez should have intervened, held his hands up (sorry) to what had occurred and then basked in the positive Public Relations glory of his own Paolo Di Canio moment.

      But why on earth should he? There is no obvious or deliberate intent to handle the ball, the referee and his assistant were well placed to make a judgement and even the opposition have admitted they would have accepted similar good fortune had the situation been reversed. The Monday headlines then would probably read 'Lucky Mansfield' rather than 'Cheat Suarez'.

      From Stoke striker Peter Crouch's 'double-dribble' against Manchester City earlier this season to Bolton goalkeeper Adam Bogdan clawing the ball back from behind his own line against QPR last term, comparable incidents occur on a regular basis up and down the land. Sometime Lady Luck will be on your side, sometimes not. Deal with it and move on.


      Suarez celebrates against QPR
      And as for those who suggest the Liverpool striker was taunting the home fans by kissing the offending area where the ball had struck him after blasting the ball home from close range, you might want to do a quick search on his previous goal celebrations from this season.

      At present, there are far too many in the game - be they officials, players, managers, commentators, pundits or supporters - of the baffling belief that an indiscretion has occurred whenever there is contact between the ball and a player's hand. We've all seen penalties awarded in ridiculous circumstances when an unwitting defender has the temerity to be stood around 30cm away when a ball is blasted at high speed against their arm.

      Perhaps some re-education is required at all levels so that those who insist on demanding that a spot-kick or free-kick be awarded regardless of the circumstances gain a greater awareness of the rules, and perhaps the time has come for certain individuals not to be castigated purely because of their sins of the past.


      http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12040/8384772/In-defence-of-Suarez
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #8: Jan 07, 2013 02:22:23 pm
      Alan Hansen is spot on. The hypocrisy is astounding.
      I look forward to RVP scoring against us next Sunday , with his hand....


      If Van Persil scored with his hand surely it'd have mean an amputation? We all know them bags of air are lethal. ;D
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #9: Jan 07, 2013 03:35:31 pm
      For all the hyprocrites, I would ask them this one question... if that was Rooney, scoring the winning goal for England v Germany in a world cup semi, would there be the same furore ?

      Thought not.
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      Reply #10: Jan 07, 2013 03:37:46 pm
      For all the hyprocrites, I would ask them this one question... if that was Rooney, scoring the winning goal for England v Germany in a world cup semi, would there be the same furore ?

      Thought not.

      Of course there would! Geoff Hurst has just spoken to FIFA about rescinding his goal in 1966! :laugh:
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      Reply #11: Jan 07, 2013 03:43:17 pm
      For all the hyprocrites, I would ask them this one question... if that was Rooney, scoring the winning goal for England v Germany in a world cup semi, would there be the same furore ?

      Thought not.

      I heard the Football Association are asking for a re-match for the World Cup 1966 Final, since the ball never went in. #sportsmanship
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #12: Jan 07, 2013 05:39:44 pm
      Hansen is spot on.

      Another 'controversy' created by the media and as usual their favourite target.
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      Reply #13: Jan 07, 2013 05:55:31 pm
      ESPN issue statement on "Luis Suarez is a cheat" commentator Jon Champion

      SATELLITE broadcaster ESPN say they have spoken to commentator Jon Champion to remind him of his responsibilites after he branded Liverpool FC striker Luis Suarez a cheat live on air.

      Champion slammed the Uruguayan for the handball which referee Andre Marriner failed to spot prior to the Redsā€™ second goal during the FA Cup tie against Mansfield Town.

      He described it as ā€œthe work of a cheatā€, which sparked an angry response from Reds fans.

      In a statement ESPN said: ā€œWe take our responsibility to deliver the highest standards of coverage to our viewers.

      ā€œESPNā€™s editorial policy is for commentators to be unbiased and honest, to call things as they see them.

      ā€œInevitably this can involve treading a fine line on occasion, especially in the heat of the moment.

      ā€œComments during the Mansfield v Liverpool match caused offence where none was intended and we have spoken to our commentator about this incident."

      Read more: Liverpool Echo http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2013/01/07/espn-issue-statement-on-luis-suarez-is-a-cheat-commentator-jon-champion-100252-32560355/#ixzz2HJUVx0mF
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #14: Jan 07, 2013 06:10:06 pm
      In my opinion, anyone who thinks he was in the wrong has either a strong bias against him for whatever reason or they simply have never been in a competitive environment. Suarez wants to win, he wants to score goals, he does whatever it takes to accomplish those. If the ref doesn't see it then it the ref is at fault, certainly not Suarez.

      If the modern game isn't going to allow players who have the passion and desire to do what is required for them to get results then I'll stay far away from it myself.
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
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      Reply #16: Jan 07, 2013 06:39:50 pm
       Alan Hansen is as straight and honest with his opinion as he was as a player for us in the 1970,s and 80,s.Well said Alan Hansen and thanks for that double in 1985/6 season.
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #17: Jan 07, 2013 06:49:23 pm
      Well,for me the damage is done.

      Whether Luis cheated or not, mud sticks, and a sh*t load was thrown.

      No matter how many people say Luis did not cheat, he will be labeled as one, and every time he gets the ball CHEAT will be yelled.

      Well done John Champion, a champion of cu*ts.

      As for my take on the goal, I got the impression that Luis knew what he had done, i.e. handled the ball, straight away by his posture and the flinging of his leg to the ball, plus not even celebrating to goal.

      Now cast your minds back a few weeks ago, when Joe Allen was penilised for hand ball, when it was ball to hand.

      Karma.
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      Reply #18: Jan 07, 2013 07:21:26 pm
      Well said Jocky.  :gt-happyup:
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #19: Jan 07, 2013 07:36:52 pm
      Well in Hansen,some common sense does prevail.
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #20: Jan 07, 2013 07:57:33 pm
      Totally agree with jocky, if luis had moved out of the way of the ball completely then he isn't doing his job ! He is there to score goals and be competitive .this man has taken so much stick from the media and football'supporters'  ....rock on Luis and keep doing what you do so well !! Ynwa
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #21: Jan 07, 2013 08:12:14 pm
      Watching the Everton game right now, and Jon Champion sounds dejected as F**k.
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #22: Jan 07, 2013 08:17:35 pm
      Maybe Champion will have done Luis a favour as its has clearly highlighted how the media have been crucifying this lad for over 2 years now.
      Maybe with some reflection they will see Luis's only fault is his over hightend sense of will to win. He doesn't swear or chase Referees,he doesn't go out to end players careers ,he doesnt cheat on his pregnant wife with hookers and he isnt a drugs cheat. All the former being examples of UTD players behaviour.

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