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      Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Jan 07, 2013 12:45:43 pm
      Liverpool striker Luis Suárez cannot be blamed for carrying out his job and acting like any other player would have
      by Alan Hansen

      Liverpool striker Luis Suárez cannot be blamed for carrying out his job and acting like any other player

      Whatever moral high ground you take over Luis Suárez's goal, no footballer would ever ask for a goal to be disallowed.

      It has never happened in the history of the game. It will never happen in my lifetime.

      What exactly was Suárez supposed to do? Run to the referee and tell him it hit his hand? His team-mates would go berserk, and his manager would not be too impressed either.

      The first thing to make clear is Liverpool's second goal in the third round cup tie was not a deliberate handball.

      There is no way Suárez has moved his arm to control it. If anything, it looks as if he is trying to move his hand away when it has hit him.

      The speed it was travelling, it simply ricocheted forward and struck him at angle which, unfortunately, the officials could not see.

      You can tell from Suárez's reaction he expected it to be disallowed and when it wasn't, he has decided to get on with the game. It is not like he ran off celebrating.

      He did exactly what anyone who has ever played professional football - and anyone who plays in the future - would do in the same situation.

      There will be outrage about it, firstly, because it was a high-profile incident in a high-profile game. Second, because it is Suárez. He has become an easy target.

      I can imagine if other players were at the centre of such a controversy it would be simply shrugged off as a stroke of luck - or bad luck so far as Mansfield are concerned - and the debate would not focus so much on the identity of the goalscorer.

      People like football to be black and white on these issues, encouraging a sense of ethics within the game. It is idealistic but has no basis in reality.

      Take that argument to the logical conclusion and you'd never need a referee or linesman.

      Every time a foul is not given, a defender can ask to stop the play and inform the opponent he just mistimed a tackle.

      Take Craig Gardner for Sunderland against Spurs last week. Would anyone have expected him to ask the referee to rescind the booking against Gareth Bale - a caution that earned the Tottenham player a suspension - and admit he did make contact and a penalty should have been awarded?

      Better still, all those who are outraged by Suárez's goal yesterday can tell their own side next weekend to admit every handball, every shirt tug and every wrongly flagged offside that benefits their own team.

      They can say they are doing so in the spirit of the game.

      Where do you draw the line?

      I was involved in an incident in the 1984 League Cup final against Everton. I was in my own penalty box, the ball hit my thigh and bounced onto my arm.

      The penalty was not given. Are people saying I should have been running to the referee and telling him it might have been a spot kick?

      It is a nonsensical argument which shows no understanding of how the game is played, or the stakes for those at the highest level when the action is moving so quickly.

      One of the first things I was taught as a youngster breaking into the first team was if I ever make a foul, particularly in the box, never look at the referee. It is seen as an admission of guilt and he is more likely to give it.

      So, you are trying to get away with fouls. Is that cheating too? Of course not. You are playing within the boundaries all the time, and it is for the officials to determine where there has been a misdemeanour.

      That is why there will be no moral condemnation from anyone within the game for what happened. Managers and players know that next week it could be their own team benefiting from such an incident.

      There have been one or two situations where players have been acclaimed for their sportsmanship - Robbie Fowler telling the referee not to award a penalty against David Seaman in the early 1990s springs to mind. You will not find too many others.

      The sad thing for Suárez is his reputation goes before him. In recent weeks he has been staying on his feet far more and there have been fewer incidents where opponents have accused him of diving.

      He scored a goal against Sunderland recently where he could easily have thrown himself to the floor, but instead he retained his balance and scored. Nobody seemed to say much about the honesty of his play in that case.

      Yesterday, Suárez simply followed the golden rule every youngster is taught when he first plays football. "Play to the whistle." If that whistle does not come, it's the fault of the referee, not the player.

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      I think Alan is right on the money here. Suarez simply can't be blamed for doing what every other player WOULD have done.
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #1: Jan 07, 2013 12:49:06 pm
      Even Graham Poll said he was not to blame.I think most reasonable people will see the sh*t this lad has had in the media is unfounded and unfair and he has never complained.
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      Reply #2: Jan 07, 2013 12:55:01 pm
      Good piece. The Telegraph, it is? I'm glad to see some journals are willing to carry sensible articles like this one, instead of just erupting in hysterical screaming. (Don't get me started on the DMail).
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      Reply #3: Jan 07, 2013 01:14:29 pm
      I love the way everyone and their uncle is calling him a cheat for that handball. It was accidental, he didn't peel off celebrating either. If RVP scored that goal there wouldn't be any talk at all.
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      Reply #4: Jan 07, 2013 01:21:49 pm
      The Independent have compared it to hand of god, and that k*nt on ESPN called him a cheat.

      WTF !
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      Reply #5: Jan 07, 2013 01:24:51 pm
      Alan Hansen is spot on. The hypocrisy is astounding.
      I look forward to RVP scoring against us next Sunday , with his hand , and him and Fergie immediately telling the ref to disallow it.
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #6: Jan 07, 2013 01:57:55 pm
      Picture the scene next week, Luis Suarez is bearing down on goal before he's clipped by Rio Ferdinand on the edge of the box at Old Trafford. The referee (obviously not Howard Webb) waves away the incident before Rio picks himself up, wanders over to the official and mutters: "Actually ref, it was a foul, it was just inside the area, and as I was last man, I probably deserve a red card." How likely do you think that is on a scale of one to ridiculously unlikely?

      That's what some sanctimonious soccer lovers seem to think Suarez should have done after his inadvertent handball, in their eyes, poured petrol all over the romance of the FA Cup. He's no Miroslav Klose, but then few players are. His problem is that his previous, rightly in some circumstances, makes him an easy target. Remember Suarez claiming "the hand of God now belongs to me" after his save against Ghana at the World Cup? Or being booked against Southampton for trying to punch the ball into the net?

      The ignorance of those claiming he kissed his hand to goad the non-league side is also laughable - he does that after each goal he scores. Mansfield's chief exec Carolyn Radford reckoned a replay had been "stolen" from her plucky players, but at least their manager admitted he'd have taken the goal had it happened at Mansfield's attacking end.

      So, for once, and for one week only, I'm launching my Lay off Luis (;D) campaign and to underline the point, answer this teaser posed by a TV pundit: you park on a double yellow line and nip to the shops for 20 minutes. When you return there's no parking ticket on your car. Do you phone up the local council and insist they hand you a £60 fine for your wrongdoing? Do you heck.

      http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/1291229/the-fifth-official:-the-;D-campaign,-chelsea-raise-ba?cc=5901

      This is from a regular joke piece that ESPN always runs (takes the piss out of every club). But here it is absolutely spot on.
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #7: Jan 07, 2013 02:01:34 pm
      Picture the scene next week, Luis Suarez is bearing down on goal before he's clipped by Rio Ferdinand on the edge of the box at Old Trafford. The referee (obviously not Howard Webb) waves away the incident before Rio picks himself up, wanders over to the official and mutters: "Actually ref, it was a foul, it was just inside the area, and as I was last man, I probably deserve a red card." How likely do you think that is on a scale of one to ridiculously unlikely?



      http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/1291229/the-fifth-official:-the-;D-campaign,-chelsea-raise-ba?cc=5901

      This is from a regular joke piece that ESPN always runs (takes the piss out of every club). But here it is absolutely spot on.

      I didn't read any further than that opening paragraph, couldn't have said it better myself. Posted this in the player thread but here is SSN:

      In defence of Suarez
      Liverpool striker Luis Suarez is back in the spotlight after his controversial goal against Mansfield, but Rob Parrish argues that the Uruguay international should not be castigated for what happened in Sunday's FA Cup third round clash.
      By Rob Parrish - Follow me on Twitter @skysportsrobp.      Last Updated: January 7, 2013 1:38pm
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      Luis Suarez: Ball strikes Liverpool forward on the hand ahead of his goal against Mansfield
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      Another Monday morning, another media storm surrounding Luis Suarez.

      The Liverpool striker has been pilloried from numerous quarters after scoring what proved to be the decisive goal in Sunday's FA Cup third round victory over non-league Mansfield at Field Mill with the aid of a significant deflection off his arm.

      Some were swift to rush to judgement, with ESPN commentator Jon Champion stating in the heat of the moment: "That, I'm afraid, is the work of a cheat," while Mansfield chief executive Carolyn Radford said: "It feels a bit like it was stolen from us. Whether it was deliberate or not, it should be sorted out."

      Mansfield boss: Suarez not to blame
      Others, including Mansfield manager Paul Cox, were more measured as he admitted: "I don't want to say anything bad about him because he is a fabulous talent, and if the shoe was on the other foot then we would have taken it," while goalkeeper Alan Marriott added: "It happens. I don't think you can call him a cheat. I know a lot of people have done in the past. But every man, from a Sunday League football team to the Premier League, is going to do that and if it gives you an advantage and you can get away with it, then unfortunately that's football."

      The incident has divided opinion, but perhaps many of those rushing to berate the Liverpool striker could do with reacquainting themselves with FIFA's rules of the game, which state:

      Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with his hand or arm. The referee must take the following into consideration:

      • the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)

      • the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)

      • the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an infringement

      "Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with his hand or arm."
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      The key word here is 'deliberate'. Not even the most myopic Liverpool supporter would attempt to claim that the ball did not strike Suarez's hand. But is there 'movement of the hand towards the ball'? Not conclusively.

      This is why referee Andre Marriner was absolutely correct to allow the goal to stand, and why Suarez does not deserve the current round of condemnation. This is not a Diego Maradona or Thierry Henry moment.

      The Uruguay international, as anyone with a passing interest in football will be aware, is no stranger to controversy, some of which is of his own volition, some of which he has already been penalised for.


      Suarez against Ghana
      His handball on the line against Ghana in the World Cup quarter-final of 2010 in the dying seconds of extra time took the notion of good sportsmanship and delivered a firm kick to the nether regions. The same year saw the then-Ajax striker was handed a seven-match ban for biting PSV Eindhoven's Otman Bakkal. A further lengthy, and perhaps most infamous, suspension was meted out when the Football Association found Suarez guilty of racially abusing Manchester United's Patrice Evra in 2011. That's more than enough, without even mentioning the word diving.

      Given his past indiscretions, there have been suggestions that Suarez should have intervened, held his hands up (sorry) to what had occurred and then basked in the positive Public Relations glory of his own Paolo Di Canio moment.

      But why on earth should he? There is no obvious or deliberate intent to handle the ball, the referee and his assistant were well placed to make a judgement and even the opposition have admitted they would have accepted similar good fortune had the situation been reversed. The Monday headlines then would probably read 'Lucky Mansfield' rather than 'Cheat Suarez'.

      From Stoke striker Peter Crouch's 'double-dribble' against Manchester City earlier this season to Bolton goalkeeper Adam Bogdan clawing the ball back from behind his own line against QPR last term, comparable incidents occur on a regular basis up and down the land. Sometime Lady Luck will be on your side, sometimes not. Deal with it and move on.


      Suarez celebrates against QPR
      And as for those who suggest the Liverpool striker was taunting the home fans by kissing the offending area where the ball had struck him after blasting the ball home from close range, you might want to do a quick search on his previous goal celebrations from this season.

      At present, there are far too many in the game - be they officials, players, managers, commentators, pundits or supporters - of the baffling belief that an indiscretion has occurred whenever there is contact between the ball and a player's hand. We've all seen penalties awarded in ridiculous circumstances when an unwitting defender has the temerity to be stood around 30cm away when a ball is blasted at high speed against their arm.

      Perhaps some re-education is required at all levels so that those who insist on demanding that a spot-kick or free-kick be awarded regardless of the circumstances gain a greater awareness of the rules, and perhaps the time has come for certain individuals not to be castigated purely because of their sins of the past.


      http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12040/8384772/In-defence-of-Suarez
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #8: Jan 07, 2013 02:22:23 pm
      Alan Hansen is spot on. The hypocrisy is astounding.
      I look forward to RVP scoring against us next Sunday , with his hand....


      If Van Persil scored with his hand surely it'd have mean an amputation? We all know them bags of air are lethal. ;D
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #9: Jan 07, 2013 03:35:31 pm
      For all the hyprocrites, I would ask them this one question... if that was Rooney, scoring the winning goal for England v Germany in a world cup semi, would there be the same furore ?

      Thought not.
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      Reply #10: Jan 07, 2013 03:37:46 pm
      For all the hyprocrites, I would ask them this one question... if that was Rooney, scoring the winning goal for England v Germany in a world cup semi, would there be the same furore ?

      Thought not.

      Of course there would! Geoff Hurst has just spoken to FIFA about rescinding his goal in 1966! :laugh:
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      Reply #11: Jan 07, 2013 03:43:17 pm
      For all the hyprocrites, I would ask them this one question... if that was Rooney, scoring the winning goal for England v Germany in a world cup semi, would there be the same furore ?

      Thought not.

      I heard the Football Association are asking for a re-match for the World Cup 1966 Final, since the ball never went in. #sportsmanship
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #12: Jan 07, 2013 05:39:44 pm
      Hansen is spot on.

      Another 'controversy' created by the media and as usual their favourite target.
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      Reply #13: Jan 07, 2013 05:55:31 pm
      ESPN issue statement on "Luis Suarez is a cheat" commentator Jon Champion

      SATELLITE broadcaster ESPN say they have spoken to commentator Jon Champion to remind him of his responsibilites after he branded Liverpool FC striker Luis Suarez a cheat live on air.

      Champion slammed the Uruguayan for the handball which referee Andre Marriner failed to spot prior to the Reds’ second goal during the FA Cup tie against Mansfield Town.

      He described it as “the work of a cheat”, which sparked an angry response from Reds fans.

      In a statement ESPN said: “We take our responsibility to deliver the highest standards of coverage to our viewers.

      “ESPN’s editorial policy is for commentators to be unbiased and honest, to call things as they see them.

      “Inevitably this can involve treading a fine line on occasion, especially in the heat of the moment.

      “Comments during the Mansfield v Liverpool match caused offence where none was intended and we have spoken to our commentator about this incident."

      Read more: Liverpool Echo http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2013/01/07/espn-issue-statement-on-luis-suarez-is-a-cheat-commentator-jon-champion-100252-32560355/#ixzz2HJUVx0mF
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #14: Jan 07, 2013 06:10:06 pm
      In my opinion, anyone who thinks he was in the wrong has either a strong bias against him for whatever reason or they simply have never been in a competitive environment. Suarez wants to win, he wants to score goals, he does whatever it takes to accomplish those. If the ref doesn't see it then it the ref is at fault, certainly not Suarez.

      If the modern game isn't going to allow players who have the passion and desire to do what is required for them to get results then I'll stay far away from it myself.
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      Reply #16: Jan 07, 2013 06:39:50 pm
       Alan Hansen is as straight and honest with his opinion as he was as a player for us in the 1970,s and 80,s.Well said Alan Hansen and thanks for that double in 1985/6 season.
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      Reply #17: Jan 07, 2013 06:49:23 pm
      Well,for me the damage is done.

      Whether Luis cheated or not, mud sticks, and a sh*t load was thrown.

      No matter how many people say Luis did not cheat, he will be labeled as one, and every time he gets the ball CHEAT will be yelled.

      Well done John Champion, a champion of cu*ts.

      As for my take on the goal, I got the impression that Luis knew what he had done, i.e. handled the ball, straight away by his posture and the flinging of his leg to the ball, plus not even celebrating to goal.

      Now cast your minds back a few weeks ago, when Joe Allen was penilised for hand ball, when it was ball to hand.

      Karma.
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      Reply #18: Jan 07, 2013 07:21:26 pm
      Well said Jocky.  :gt-happyup:
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #19: Jan 07, 2013 07:36:52 pm
      Well in Hansen,some common sense does prevail.
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      Reply #20: Jan 07, 2013 07:57:33 pm
      Totally agree with jocky, if luis had moved out of the way of the ball completely then he isn't doing his job ! He is there to score goals and be competitive .this man has taken so much stick from the media and football'supporters'  ....rock on Luis and keep doing what you do so well !! Ynwa
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      Reply #21: Jan 07, 2013 08:12:14 pm
      Watching the Everton game right now, and Jon Champion sounds dejected as F**k.
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #22: Jan 07, 2013 08:17:35 pm
      Maybe Champion will have done Luis a favour as its has clearly highlighted how the media have been crucifying this lad for over 2 years now.
      Maybe with some reflection they will see Luis's only fault is his over hightend sense of will to win. He doesn't swear or chase Referees,he doesn't go out to end players careers ,he doesnt cheat on his pregnant wife with hookers and he isnt a drugs cheat. All the former being examples of UTD players behaviour.
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #23: Jan 07, 2013 08:21:43 pm
      Quote from Reslivo
      Liverpool striker Luis Suárez cannot be blamed for carrying out his job and acting like any other player would have
      by Alan Hansen

      Liverpool striker Luis Suárez cannot be blamed for carrying out his job and acting like any other player

      Take Craig Gardner for Sunderland against Spurs last week. Would anyone have expected him to ask the referee to rescind the booking against Gareth Bale - a caution that earned the Tottenham player a suspension - and admit he did make contact and a penalty should have been awarded?

      I was involved in an incident in the 1984 League Cup final against Everton. I was in my own penalty box, the ball hit my thigh and bounced onto my arm.

      The penalty was not given. Are people saying I should have been running to the referee and telling him it might have been a spot kick?

      So, you are trying to get away with fouls. Is that cheating too? Of course not. You are playing within the boundaries all the time, and it is for the officials to determine where there has been a misdemeanour.

      There have been one or two situations where players have been acclaimed for their sportsmanship - Robbie Fowler telling the referee not to award a penalty against David Seaman in the early 1990s springs to mind. You will not find too many others.

      Yesterday, Suárez simply followed the golden rule every youngster is taught when he first plays football. "Play to the whistle." If that whistle does not come, it's the fault of the referee, not the player.
      Sorry Alan, you're not allowed to deliberately handle the ball in this sport, and cheating in whatever form cannot be condoned. We preach fair play in football, not "if the ref doesn't see it, tough luck". Comparing what happened yesterday to previous games isn't a defence either. Two wrongs don't make a right, and every incident should be taken on it's own merits.

      I'm not saying Luis cheated. But if that was against us yesterday, we wouldn't be arguing whether it was accidental or not, saying "do your job" and "play to the whistle". We would be outraged and have every right to be. I notice that there was a rather muted reaction from our fans after it was scored, and they had a perfect view of it.

      It could have gone either way. We got the decision our way yesterday, we may not get it our way the next time. And that doesn't justify what happened in the goal against Mansfield either.
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #24: Jan 07, 2013 08:30:38 pm

       There's more chance of me being the next person to walk on the Moon !

      If you do you'll be the first.
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #25: Jan 07, 2013 08:30:52 pm
      Sorry Alan, you're not allowed to deliberately handle the ball in this sport, and cheating in whatever form cannot be condoned. We preach fair play in football, not "if the ref doesn't see it, tough luck". Comparing what happened yesterday to previous games isn't a defence either. Two wrongs don't make a right, and every incident should be taken on it's own merits.

      I'm not saying Luis cheated. But if that was against us yesterday, we wouldn't be arguing whether it was accidental or not, saying "do your job" and "play to the whistle". We would be outraged and have every right to be. I notice that there was a rather muted reaction from our fans after it was scored, and they had a perfect view of it.

      It could have gone either way. We got the decision our way yesterday, we may not get it our way the next time. And that doesn't justify what happened in the goal against Mansfield either.

      You for real?
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #26: Jan 07, 2013 08:32:23 pm
      No Si, he's a WUM
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      Reply #27: Jan 07, 2013 08:33:25 pm
      just watched Jelavich catch the ball in a bid to control it and Champions comment......not a word funny that.
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      Reply #28: Jan 07, 2013 08:39:06 pm
      just watched Jelavich catch the ball in a bid to control it and Champions comment......not a word funny that.
      BS playing tonight walton ?
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #29: Jan 07, 2013 08:40:11 pm

      I think he's just daft.
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #30: Jan 07, 2013 08:51:12 pm
      Sorry Alan, you're not allowed to deliberately handle the ball in this sport, and cheating in whatever form cannot be condoned. We preach fair play in football, not "if the ref doesn't see it, tough luck". Comparing what happened yesterday to previous games isn't a defence either. Two wrongs don't make a right, and every incident should be taken on it's own merits.

      I'm not saying Luis cheated. But if that was against us yesterday, we wouldn't be arguing whether it was accidental or not, saying "do your job" and "play to the whistle". We would be outraged and have every right to be. I notice that there was a rather muted reaction from our fans after it was scored, and they had a perfect view of it.

      It could have gone either way. We got the decision our way yesterday, we may not get it our way the next time. And that doesn't justify what happened in the goal against Mansfield either.




      The fact that it wasn't intentional DOES justify the goal ffs...

      Our fans apparent pause before celebrating only suggests it was debatable?..
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #31: Jan 07, 2013 09:20:21 pm
      Alan Hansen, a true red and Says it as it should be said, truthfully and and unbiased ! 
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      Reply #32: Jan 07, 2013 09:34:42 pm
      Sorry Alan, you're not allowed to deliberately handle the ball in this sport, and cheating in whatever form cannot be condoned. We preach fair play in football, not "if the ref doesn't see it, tough luck". Comparing what happened yesterday to previous games isn't a defence either. Two wrongs don't make a right, and every incident should be taken on it's own merits.

      I'm not saying Luis cheated. But if that was against us yesterday, we wouldn't be arguing whether it was accidental or not, saying "do your job" and "play to the whistle". We would be outraged and have every right to be. I notice that there was a rather muted reaction from our fans after it was scored, and they had a perfect view of it.

      It could have gone either way. We got the decision our way yesterday, we may not get it our way the next time. And that doesn't justify what happened in the goal against Mansfield either.

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      Reply #33: Jan 07, 2013 09:51:16 pm
      Sorry Alan, you're not allowed to deliberately handle the ball in this sport, and cheating in whatever form cannot be condoned. We preach fair play in football, not "if the ref doesn't see it, tough luck". Comparing what happened yesterday to previous games isn't a defence either. Two wrongs don't make a right, and every incident should be taken on it's own merits.

      I'm not saying Luis cheated. But if that was against us yesterday, we wouldn't be arguing whether it was accidental or not, saying "do your job" and "play to the whistle". We would be outraged and have every right to be. I notice that there was a rather muted reaction from our fans after it was scored, and they had a perfect view of it.   

      It could have gone either way. We got the decision our way yesterday, we may not get it our way the next time. And that doesn't justify what happened in the goal against Mansfield either.
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      Reply #34: Jan 07, 2013 09:55:13 pm
      Don't be ! He's not lost for many.
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      Reply #35: Jan 07, 2013 09:59:19 pm
      Don't be ! He's not lost for many.

      A few intelligent one's wouldn't go amiss.
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      Reply #36: Jan 08, 2013 12:47:50 pm
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      The fact that it wasn't intentional DOES justify the goal ffs...

      He's basically saying it's ok to gain an advantage, if the ref doesn't see it. What happened to all the Fair Play sh*te we keep hearing about? Is that an a la carte thing now? In which case, the whole campaign is a sham.

      Accidental or not, if we were knocked out of the Cup like that Alan would, like the rest of us, bemoan the lack of sportsmanship and fume how sh*te the modern "win at all costs" game is.
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      Reply #37: Jan 08, 2013 12:49:30 pm


      Accidental or not, if we were knocked out of the Cup like that Alan would, like the rest of us, bemoan the lack of sportsmanship and fume how sh*te the modern "win at all costs" game is.

      Stop with the wind up mate. The difference is, we'd be up in arms about the officials, not breathing down one player's neck for "cheating" even though it was obviously not intentional.

      I'm pretty sure there's been lots of incidents this year where we've lost because of a dodgy decision and not once have we accused one of the opposition of cheating. Every time I can remember, the finger of blame has been aimed at the referee or the assistants.

      Are you of the opinion that players should own up to something like a handball? Because even then, it's not Suarez that should be taking the brunt of the public criticism because he didn't do it, but football as a whole. If that was the ideal scenario then the sport would have to change, not one man. The way it is now, he did nothing wrong and played to the whistle (which is what he's supposed to do, it's his job).

      Not saying we wouldn't be pissed if it didn't happen to us, but I'm pretty sure we'd be going mental at the officials, not the opposition player who accidentally handled the ball and put it in the back of the net.
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      Reply #38: Jan 08, 2013 01:57:33 pm
      Quote from Monobrow
      Stop with the wind up mate. The difference is, we'd be up in arms about the officials, not breathing down one player's neck for "cheating" even though it was obviously not intentional.

      I'm pretty sure there's been lots of incidents this year where we've lost because of a dodgy decision and not once have we accused one of the opposition of cheating. Every time I can remember, the finger of blame has been aimed at the referee or the assistants.

      Not saying we wouldn't be pissed if it didn't happen to us, but I'm pretty sure we'd be going mental at the officials, not the opposition player who accidentally handled the ball and put it in the back of the net.

      First game of the season, the opposition won two clear penalties, and what did we do? Blame their player for diving. The month after, we lost at home from another penalty after taking the lead, and we blamed the opponent for that too. At the end of November, the decisive goal was scored after a debateable free kick, which we blamed their player for.

      I think we should just be happy about winning the game on Sunday, not trying to justify what happened by comparing it to earlier games. Because those comparisons will rightly fly out the window, as soon as the next debateable decision doesn't go our way.

      I'm not on the wind-up. We know that many people are put off football now because of the win at all costs approach compared to other sports. If we're trying to set an example of and promote fair play in the game, then that's what we should be encouraging, not "if the ref doesn't see it, fair enough".
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #39: Jan 08, 2013 02:10:09 pm
      He's basically saying it's ok to gain an advantage, if the ref doesn't see it. What happened to all the Fair Play sh*te we keep hearing about? Is that an a la carte thing now? In which case, the whole campaign is a sham.

      Accidental or not, if we were knocked out of the Cup like that Alan would, like the rest of us, bemoan the lack of sportsmanship and fume how sh*te the modern "win at all costs" game is.

      Actually, what he's saying is that it's not the footballer's job to come clean over an incident. He's not suggesting that players should intentionally cheat, he's saying that if we start down a road where a player should own up to every incident of them breaking the rules during a game then what point game officials? Luis is paid to score goals, not own up to every infringement he makes in a game. Referees are paid to make judgement calls on whether a player broke the rules of the game and whether the breaking of the rule was intentional or accidental. If the ball hits his hand prior to going in then it's the referee's job to make a determination, not a players.
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      Reply #40: Jan 08, 2013 02:14:51 pm
      First game of the season, the opposition won two clear penalties, and what did we do? Blame their player for diving. The month after, we lost at home from another penalty after taking the lead, and we blamed the opponent for that too. At the end of November, the decisive goal was scored after a debateable free kick, which we blamed their player for.

      I think we should just be happy about winning the game on Sunday, not trying to justify what happened by comparing it to earlier games. Because those comparisons will rightly fly out the window, as soon as the next debateable decision doesn't go our way.

      I'm not on the wind-up. We know that many people are put off football now because of the win at all costs approach compared to other sports. If we're trying to set an example of and promote fair play in the game, then that's what we should be encouraging, not "if the ref doesn't see it, fair enough".

      I hate feeding trolls but I'll throw you some scraps for the bit in bold.

      The win at all costs attitude was removed from other sports when their respective governing bodies introduced technology to ensure that the correct decisions were made during a game/match.  How can "we" promote fair play in football when our governing body continues to leave "all" decisions to the officials on the pitch.

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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #41: Jan 08, 2013 02:37:15 pm
      He's basically saying it's ok to gain an advantage, if the ref doesn't see it. What happened to all the Fair Play sh*te we keep hearing about? Is that an a la carte thing now? In which case, the whole campaign is a sham.

      Accidental or not, if we were knocked out of the Cup like that Alan would, like the rest of us, bemoan the lack of sportsmanship and fume how sh*te the modern "win at all costs" game is.

      Shifting the goal posts yet again, the debate here is about the legitimacy or not of Luis' goal and while there is a mass of qualified opinion that is positive you as is way, veer off on some obscure tangent to suggest whatever.
      There was no intentional movement to obstruct or affect the ball in any way as the replay shows - he kissed his wrist as he always does, end of.
      The only people seeking to discredit Luis and consequently LFC are the media and people with ulterior motives - are your ears burning yet?
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #42: Jan 08, 2013 02:55:51 pm
      Shifting the goal posts yet again, the debate here is about the legitimacy or not of Luis' goal and while there is a mass of qualified opinion that is positive you as is way, veer off on some obscure tangent to suggest whatever.
      There was no intentional movement to obstruct or affect the ball in any way as the replay shows - he kissed his wrist as he always does, end of.
      The only people seeking to discredit Luis and consequently LFC are the media and people with ulterior motives - are your ears burning yet?

      And yet again it all kicks off in the media in the week we play utd.

      There were quite a few incidents over xmas, the new year and in the FA cup, but what gets the headlines?
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      Reply #43: Jan 08, 2013 05:26:24 pm
      And yet again it all kicks off in the media in the week we play utd.

      There were quite a few incidents over xmas, the new year and in the FA cup, but what gets the headlines?

      Precisely the reason bacon face has said nothing!!
      The manc media are doing the wind up for him.
      But we know Luis laughs in the face of adversity and pisses all over his detractors by scoring for fun.
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #44: Jan 08, 2013 10:47:58 pm
      He's basically saying it's ok to gain an advantage, if the ref doesn't see it. What happened to all the Fair Play sh*te we keep hearing about? Is that an a la carte thing now? In which case, the whole campaign is a sham.

      Accidental or not, if we were knocked out of the Cup like that Alan would, like the rest of us, bemoan the lack of sportsmanship and fume how sh*te the modern "win at all costs" game is.
      Where's the F***ing negative button on here  , i miss it so much.
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      Reply #45: Jan 08, 2013 10:56:12 pm
      He seems to be getting slated when it clearly wasn't deliberate, yet Thierry Henry was deliberate and cost Ireland a place in a major tournament. Are Mansfield bitter because they genuinely wanted to see how far they could get or are they bitter because they lost out on a bit extra cash? Either way it's the officials who are in the wrong, not Suarez. Anyways, about time we got a decision for once.
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      Reply #46: Jan 08, 2013 11:00:43 pm
      He seems to be getting slated when it clearly wasn't deliberate, yet Thierry Henry was deliberate and cost Ireland a place in a major tournament. Are Mansfield bitter because they genuinely wanted to see how far they could get or are they bitter because they lost out on a bit extra cash? Either way it's the officials who are in the wrong, not Suarez. Anyways, about time we got a decision for once.

      Have Mansfield shown any bitterness about the decision?

      I only ask because the only comment I've seen was from the manager and he took it well and said it happens and he would have taken it if it had been for his team instead of against.
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      Reply #47: Jan 08, 2013 11:03:57 pm
      Have Mansfield shown any bitterness about the decision?

      I only ask because the only comment I've seen was from the manager and he took it well and said it happens and he would have taken it if it had been for his team instead of against.

      Wasn't their chairman saying Liverpool should be embarrassed by Suarez' actions?
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      Reply #48: Jan 08, 2013 11:05:31 pm
      Have Mansfield shown any bitterness about the decision?

      I only ask because the only comment I've seen was from the manager and he took it well and said it happens and he would have taken it if it had been for his team instead of against.

      Their owner's come out having a right go at Luis mate. 

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jan/07/luis-suarez-accused-embarrassing-liverpool
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      Reply #49: Jan 08, 2013 11:16:05 pm
      Wasn't their chairman saying Liverpool should be embarrassed by Suarez' actions?


      Ah right. I hadn't seen those comments.

      They should have accepted it and moved on like their manager did.
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      Reply #50: Jan 09, 2013 12:41:10 am
      I've taken a look at the incident  a few times and it appears to me that Suarez intended to stop the ball from getting away from him, he tried to use his body to do just that but his outstretched hand got into the way and I'm sure he knew the ball had hit his hand and as a sign of frustration blasted the ball into the net. But he got a surprise gift from the referee, that's all to it.

      Suarez being Suarez, may I just exaggerate a bit here, he'll use a hockey stick to whack it into goal if necessary, that's the kind of determination and fighting spirit he has for every game, how I hope every player on the field shows the same determination. Others may interprete the incident differently, but to be fair to Suarez the press should also be fair to him to also highlight the numerous fouls committed against him and some were clear cut penalties not given while others could have injured him seriously. How about Crouch's handball, it was even more embarrasing. 

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      Reply #51: Jan 09, 2013 11:51:11 am
      Good to hear from Ayre.

      Liverpool FC: Reds MD Ian Ayre denies claims he was ‘embarrassed’ by Luis Suarez’s goal at Mansfield

      LIVERPOOL FC managing director Ian Ayre has dismissed as ‘nonsense’ suggestions that he felt embarrassed by Luis Suarez’s actions in the FA Cup tie at Mansfield Town.

      Ayre was left baffled by a scathing attack on the Reds striker from Stags chairman John Radford.

      The insurance tycoon branded Suarez a cheat after his handball prior to scoring what proved to be the decisive strike in Sunday’s third round tie.

      Radford said the Uruguayan should feel ashamed, accused him of gloating with his goal celebration and claimed even ‘Liverpool’s directors felt embarrassed’.

      However, Ayre insists that is untrue and has delivered a robust defence of the Reds’ top scorer.

      “It’s nonsense to say that I was embarrassed,” he said.

      “I spoke to their chairman after the game and we shook hands. I thanked him for their hospitality and wished them all the best of luck for the rest of the season.

      “He said that our second goal was a clear handball. I said the referee didn’t think it was deliberate and had given the goal and we move on.

      “I certainly didn’t give him any indication that I was embarrassed. I was the only director there so I don’t know who he is referring to.

      “I was surprised when I read his comments because Mansfield’s manager and players showed a lot of dignity after the game. They spoke sense when they said these things happen in football all the time.

      “It was a great game and a great occasion. Mansfield conducted themselves fantastically well both on and off the pitch.

      “It’s just disappointing that the chairman has made these comments. He’s hurting at being knocked out, you can’t blame him for that, but it’s wrong to say that Luis kissing his wrist was in some way gloating over the handball. Luis does the same thing after every goal.”

      Ayre believes the criticism of Suarez has been blown out of all proportion and rubbished the idea that the talented frontman should have informed referee Andre Marriner that he had handled the ball and urged him to disallow it.

      “A lot has been written about it but the reality is – as we always get told – the referee’s decision is final,” Ayre added.

      “I don’t know what people expected Luis to do? The ball came back at him off the keeper so fast and there is no question that it hit his hand. He did what any player would do and put it into the net.

      “It’s not for Luis to say whether the handball was or wasn’t deliberate. The referee and the assistants are there to make that decision. Their decision was that the goal stood.

      “There have been plenty of decisions which have gone against Luis this season. These things seem to follow Luis around and it’s unfortunate, but he has our full support. He’s a fantastic player who makes a huge contribution to the club. Knowing Luis, it won’t affect him as he’s a very strong character.”

      Read more: Liverpool Echo http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2013/01/09/liverpool-fc-reds-md-ian-ayre-denies-claims-he-was-embarrassed-by-luis-suarez-s-goal-at-mansfield-100252-32570285/2/#ixzz2HTi3HElp



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      Reply #52: Jan 09, 2013 12:14:50 pm

      True.

      Well done to Ayre backing Luis.
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      Reply #53: Jan 09, 2013 12:24:34 pm
      the only thing that is embarrasing is a rich old man with young wife who talks sh*te.
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      Reply #54: Jan 09, 2013 12:27:16 pm
      True.

      Well done to Ayre backing Luis.

      I know mate, who'd a thunk it eh  ;D
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      Reply #55: Jan 09, 2013 12:37:29 pm
      Ian Ayre does something useful - what a shock.
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      Reply #56: Jan 09, 2013 01:27:45 pm
      Was it a handball, yes

      Was it intentional? Not a chance he'd have the best reactiontimes of any human to move his hand into place to knock that ball in with the speed it came to him.

      Should it have stood? Yes, Why? Because the ref and his officials played on and allowed it. The way Luis kicks the ball in the net he's expecteing a whistle or a flag to disallow it theres no doubt of that. No other player would or should turn to the ref and say "no goal I handled it" Luis should be no different.

      Sick to the back teeth of people having a go at Suarez. All stems from the TV media nd red tops and what they have said and written about him. Every week in every game in every division things happen like diving, hand abll on purpose, fouling and then claiming the player dived etc but if Luis Suarez does a thing bang! he's the worlds biggest villain.

      A bit of realism here is needed from people who like sheep follow the medias word. Officials missed the handball, then claimed it was seen but deemed to be unintentional. Fook off having a go at Suarez.

      Finally, Luis should sue Jon Campion and Waddle 

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      Reply #57: Jan 09, 2013 01:50:24 pm
      Was it a handball, yes

      Was it intentional? Not a chance he'd have the best reactiontimes of any human to move his hand into place to knock that ball in with the speed it came to him.

      Should it have stood? Yes, Why? Because the ref and his officials played on and allowed it. The way Luis kicks the ball in the net he's expecteing a whistle or a flag to disallow it theres no doubt of that. No other player would or should turn to the ref and say "no goal I handled it" Luis should be no different.

      Sick to the back teeth of people having a go at Suarez. All stems from the TV media nd red tops and what they have said and written about him. Every week in every game in every division things happen like diving, hand abll on purpose, fouling and then claiming the player dived etc but if Luis Suarez does a thing bang! he's the worlds biggest villain.

      A bit of realism here is needed from people who like sheep follow the medias word. Officials missed the handball, then claimed it was seen but deemed to be unintentional. Fook off having a go at Suarez.

      Finally, Luis should sue Jon Campion and Waddle


      Said that all along Brian, it's gorra be defamation or slander. Although the owners would probably disappear off the planet if it went that far; remember the FA race witch hunt? Couldn't see their arses for dust and not a word or a F***ing e-mail from their den in Boston.
      If Luis did take legal action they would probably transfer him. 
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      Reply #58: Jan 09, 2013 02:14:28 pm
      What baffles me is that very few people seem to realise what Alan is pointing out here. I think actually, what is more likely, is that they do realise it, but they'd much rather fire more abuse his way regardless of the obvious truth.

      It's been a while (relatively speaking) since Suarez got the headlines for the wrong reasons (not that he deserved the negative headlines in the past anyway), so the slightest thing he does now will be magnified and exaggerated.

      Of course all the TV companies and journalists know that when he scores, he kisses his wrist. They know that he didn't kiss his hand and smirk at the Mansfield fans to wind them up or any other such bullshit, but all they have to do is show the clip of the goal followed by the celebration, or print the picture on the back page (and not mention that it is his normal celebration) and the millions of people who read or watch will jump to conclusions. Pretty sure every footy fan knows it's his normal celebration, but there will be millions looking at that picture who do not know this and will think "what a horrible man".

      This is how reputations are built. Back page pictures and headlines such as "CHEAT" or "RACIST". Snippets of commentary such as "That is the work of a cheat" or "Suarez at the centre of the controversy yet again".

      The uneducated will fall for this, and he will forever be a cheat to them.

      What's worse is, the educated football fans know all the facts, and know that they should admit that Luis has been victimised and falsely portrayed as a cheat/diver/racist, but because of his undeniable talent and the fact he plays for Liverpool means they will not.

      It is very much, a sad sad state of affairs.
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      Reply #59: Jan 09, 2013 02:29:56 pm
      Thing with Suarez is, he has handball priors. Not talking about the World Cup (completely different situation), but he's tried using his hand before in an attacking sense. So I'm not sure we can be so gung ho that it wasn't intentional. His hand moves forward after the ball strikes, not backward, so that's something to keep in mind. I don't think anything is conclusive anyway and it could very well just be an instinctive reaction on his part.

      But the whole argument completely misses the point: This one is totally on the officials. His arm was outstretched and even if unintentional, it completely affected the play. I've seen it called plenty of times before and was very surprised it wasn't. Really do think that linesman got it wrong. Yet, they have hardly been criticized by anyone in the media!

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      Reply #60: Jan 09, 2013 02:40:54 pm
      Thing with Suarez is, he has handball priors. Not talking about the World Cup (completely different situation), but he's tried using his hand before in an attacking sense.


      Thought it was his teeth  :D
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      Reply #62: Jan 09, 2013 02:43:20 pm
      It is indeed a very very sad state of affairs , and it makes  my blood boil.
      These idiots should be thankful that Luis is the strong character that he is , because all this could break a lesser man.
      That said , what should be remembered is that,  no matter how strong anyone is , we all have a breaking point , and none of us know what any individual's breaking point is.
      I am glad that Ayre has come out and backed Luis , if a little late !
      As for the owners , once again we are left wanting , the silence is deafening !
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      Reply #63: Jan 09, 2013 04:18:25 pm
      Sorry Alan, you're not allowed to deliberately handle the ball in this sport, and cheating in whatever form cannot be condoned. We preach fair play in football, not "if the ref doesn't see it, tough luck". Comparing what happened yesterday to previous games isn't a defence either. Two wrongs don't make a right, and every incident should be taken on it's own merits.

      I'm not saying Luis cheated. But if that was against us yesterday, we wouldn't be arguing whether it was accidental or not, saying "do your job" and "play to the whistle". We would be outraged and have every right to be. I notice that there was a rather muted reaction from our fans after it was scored, and they had a perfect view of it.

      It could have gone either way. We got the decision our way yesterday, we may not get it our way the next time. And that doesn't justify what happened in the goal against Mansfield either.

      I hope the mad little c**t goes a handles one in against the mancs.

      And don't worry, the blueshite are still seething over Alan Hansen handling the ball on the goalline against their shower back during the League Cup final in 84, so he fully knows and just like Luis , doesn't give a F**k!

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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #64: Jan 09, 2013 04:21:52 pm
      Sorry Alan, you're not allowed to deliberately handle the ball in this sport, and cheating in whatever form cannot be condoned. We preach fair play in football, not "if the ref doesn't see it, tough luck". Comparing what happened yesterday to previous games isn't a defence either. Two wrongs don't make a right, and every incident should be taken on it's own merits.

      I'm not saying Luis cheated. But if that was against us yesterday, we wouldn't be arguing whether it was accidental or not, saying "do your job" and "play to the whistle". We would be outraged and have every right to be. I notice that there was a rather muted reaction from our fans after it was scored, and they had a perfect view of it.

      It could have gone either way. We got the decision our way yesterday, we may not get it our way the next time. And that doesn't justify what happened in the goal against Mansfield either.

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
      QuicoGalante
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #65: Jan 09, 2013 07:43:34 pm
      Sorry Alan, you're not allowed to deliberately handle the ball in this sport, and cheating in whatever form cannot be condoned. We preach fair play in football, not "if the ref doesn't see it, tough luck". Comparing what happened yesterday to previous games isn't a defence either. Two wrongs don't make a right, and every incident should be taken on it's own merits.

      I'm not saying Luis cheated. But if that was against us yesterday, we wouldn't be arguing whether it was accidental or not, saying "do your job" and "play to the whistle". We would be outraged and have every right to be. I notice that there was a rather muted reaction from our fans after it was scored, and they had a perfect view of it.

      It could have gone either way. We got the decision our way yesterday, we may not get it our way the next time. And that doesn't justify what happened in the goal against Mansfield either.









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      stuey
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #66: Jan 09, 2013 07:53:11 pm
      Don't encourage the F***ing troll.
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      Re: Alan Hansen: Suarez cannot be blamed...
      Reply #67: Jan 09, 2013 11:13:03 pm
      Whoa! Did a newspaper outside of Liverpool just write a sensible story about the truth on the Suarez handball?  :o  How long until SAF buys the paper, fires the writer and retracts the statement?   :roll:
      Honestly, no Footballer would have done ANYTHING different than what Suarez did. That's just the truth. So he hit it with his hand before the goal, was it a handball? Of course it was. Should Suarez be held responsible about a blown call? Not at all. Why is all the hate on Suarez when it seems like the blame should be on the referee? It's not Suarez's fault that the referee didn't make the (right) call.
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