Should we retire the No.23 Jersey as a mark of respect to Jamie Carragher?

Hi Peeps!...in light of Jamie announcing his retirement yesterday, it had only dawned on me this morning that would it be possible to retire the jersey that coined the "Carra 23" quote/chant/whatever which is synonymous with Jamie so any other player coming in to take the jersey would be seen to be an imposter?!!

AC Milan did it for Baresi & soon to be Maldini so there is such precedent elsewhere.

So why not do it for Carragher then for Gerrard when he calls it quits as they were/are the ones who are LFC born & bred...the highest accolade we can pay them for their services.

No, but that's because I don't think shirt numbers should be retired.

No.

We should not retire 8 either.

Let new heroes emerge.

It would be a nice tribute to Carra but if you are going to do this for him, then the same would need to apply to all the other legends that have played for the club in the past.

I don't think there would be many shirt numbers left after we retired the numbers used by Dalglish, Rush, Gerrard, Souness, Callaghan, Hansen, and so on.

It would be a nice tribute to Carra but if you are going to do this for him, then the same would need to apply to all the other legends that have played for the club in the past.

I don't think there would be many shirt numbers left after we retired the numbers used by Dalglish, Rush, Gerrard, Souness, Callaghan, Hansen, and so on.

Yeah, there is always that but half of them are not scousers whereas they are legends, we can eulogise them in various other ways?

I've never been a fan of this and would probably only say it's necessary if a current player passed away.

I would understand at retiring the number 23 for a year, but I wouldn't want it permanently removed from selection forever.

But I prefer keeping the number for selection as I don't believe it really in this concept to be honest.

No ,think its a load of bobbins all this retire the jersey sh*te.

Not for me

I think thats a unanimous no. Like Racer said, let new heroes emerge.

No for me too.

No, think it's a silly idea really.

The number 7 is probably our most famous number which belonged to who many would regard as our greatest ever player and they didn't retire that when Kenny left.

Let someone new wear the 23.

No!!!

No player is bigger than the lfc shirt. It is not a disrespecting Carra but I would like youngsters to target Carra number and even Gerrard's.

No, just don't hand it straight to a young defender!

Second highest in appearances - if we don't for him we will never do it. A legend.

Didnt do it for Cally, or Kenny, or Hunt, Keegan, Rush etc

so, no

no, but we should hope the next #23 is half the man Carra is!

Yep, that seems to be an unanimous no so far!

I see that young Martin Kelly has signed a new long term contract today...high hopes for him at CB some time in the future so if he's anywhere Carra's level, I will be pleased!

Anyhow, We will recognise Carra & his "23" contributions the Liverpool way when the time is right!

Actually - doesn't it say something about the modern game that we're discussing the "iconic #23" jersey?

Deary me - I am getting old!!

I wouldn't rule it out forever but I would say let it be known within the club that to wear the number 23, you'd have to demonstrate a Carra level of commitment to the club each match. I would hate to see the number 23 given out to some donkey who turns away when the ball is hit at the wall or calls to be subbed when he stubs his toe.

If you can't carry the weight of who has worn the number before you're at the wrong club.

No.

We should not retire 8 either.

Let new heroes emerge.

Agree with this and most of hte opinion here. So we'll retire the 8 too? Nah, don't think so. Carra deserves all the respect he is due, but retiring numbers is not the way to do it.

No.

Personally I think retiring shirts is a load of bollocks.

 No we should not retire the No 23 Jersey,think back to all the Liverpool greats over the years and if their Jersey Numbers had been retired  todays players would be running around with 1000s on their backs.

No

I love Carra and Stevie but no one is bigger than the club, they have done their bit to be remembered forever.. They dont need shirts taken out of circulation to cement that...

Many great players have worn those numbers before and hopefully many more great players will wear them in the future

Personally no.

But with NESV it could happen. Retiring shirts is popular in US Baseball, so we will wait to see if thats planned. Hopefully not

Instead of retiring the number, better give it to someone worthy of wearing it. So, the legend will live on and he who wears it will always be remembered the greatness of Carra.

I agree with some wanting too, but I also agree with those who dont.
I would love the #23 to be somthing younger players look too to help them become as good as, or even better to than Carra to then earn the privilidge to wear it.
I also think it would be a huge mark of respect for him to retire it, but with that, we would HAVE to do it for Stevie, then Luis, then belatedly retire other numbers from past legends. So I think it would be best to not actually retire the number. but not use it for a while, and then if, or when somebody comes along who can wear it as good as Jamie did, then let them wear it, and I think to that player then,it would be like reciveing the captancy for your club, a very proud moment.

No, simple as.

Fowler wore 23 aswel. Pretty special number!

Let there be another Scouse hero in it. Maybe Carra's son in the future

No way, it's a stupid idea I think. If anything, let someone try and live up to the reputation of that number, and become an even better #23 than Carra is (although it's big ass boots to fill).

No. This isn't basketball.

If you can't carry the weight of who has worn the number before you're at the wrong club.

Hi Peeps!...in light of Jamie announcing his retirement yesterday, it had only dawned on me this morning that would it be possible to retire the jersey that coined the "Carra 23" quote/chant/whatever which is synonymous with Jamie so any other player coming in to take the jersey would be seen to be an imposter?!!

AC Milan did it for Baresi & soon to be Maldini so there is such precedent elsewhere.

So why not do it for Carragher then for Gerrard when he calls it quits as they were/are the ones who are LFC born & bred...the highest accolade we can pay them for their services.

No, Not The Liverpool Way.

If you want to do that might as well retire the number 7, 9, 10 etc etc

No, as good a player as Carra was, no player will be as big as the club. We didn't retire number 7 for Dalglish or the number 9 for Fowler. So no.

No, as good a player as Carra was, no player will be as big as the club. We didn't retire number 7 for Dalglish or the number 9 for Fowler. So no.

Shows you the amount of legends at the club, when Robbie was replacing another legend to wear number nine!

Shows you the amount of legends at the club, when Robbie was replacing another legend to wear number nine!

Well this is it, look at some of the players who have replaced others. Number 23 needs to be kept open. We need another legend!

Yes.

Not many players would choose 23 anyway.

The number 23 should of been retired the minute Fowler took on the number 9, in recognition of his five-minute hattrick!!

No.

At the end of the day, it's only a number. It's the badge on the front that carries the expectation, not the number on the back.

We also need to move away from this thought of retiring numbers every time somebody does well wearing it. F***ing hell, if we went on that belief we'd of retired every F***ing number in the book by now.

I love and respect Jamie Carragher as much as the next man but swerve all this American style bollocks of retiring numbers. Carra took the number 23 from an even bigger legend (in my eyes) and did just as well. We didn't retire it after Fowler, so why after Carra? And as I said earlier, it's the badge that matters not the number. When Voronin was here, was he slaughtered because he was sh*t while wearing the number John Barnes wore or was he slaughtered for being sh*t while wearing the famous Liverpool top?

Swerve retiring the number 23, just hope whoever wears it next can provide us with as many happy memories as both Robbie Fowler and Jamie Carragher did. (it's written already though that when Carra's lad makes it up the ranks, he gets given the number 23 shirt)

No.

Simply put better players who have given as good a service to this club have not had jerseys retired in there honour we should not start with Carra. In fact I hope Liverpool never do it.

If you retired wevery jersey worn by a great we'd end up with jerseys starting from 40 up for our squad.

I know where your coming from but no, never

No

We've had too many legends at this club, keep them coming!

If I was an up & coming defender I wouldn't want to take Carra's number anyway.

Give it Kelly. I definitely don't think it should be retired, daft idea I believe personally because then you end up like the Italians with number 72 etc and it just gets silly. Hopefully somebody who is going to be around for a while will wear it sometime in the future not just anybody

Going to say no because when i make it to the first team, i want to wear the number 23.

However with Jamie he seems like a special case where you could consider it. Local boy, hundreds of games, epitomy of Liverpool FC.

Na, not for me either. Let the next lad to wear the number look and admire what has gone before him.

If I was an up & coming defender I wouldn't want to take Carra's number anyway.

If I was cocky enough and thought I was good enough then I would.

We have a few young lads with the potential to fill the shirt.

Doesn't have to be a defender though as Fowler wore it as well before Carra.

Keep it going. Well on its way to having its own little legendary status.

People who wear the number 7, the number 10 and the number 9 know that there is that bit extra thought and expected of them as they are getting the opportunity to go down in Liverpool history alongside some serious legends.

The number 23 now has two of its own and the next person to wear it should know this and be deserving of it.

No need for it. Carra knows we love him. He knows we all respect what he has done for this club.

NO! Such a tacky idea. 

No, not for me, like Mcarz I would love to see Martin Kelly get it, but I'd have Jamie present it to him on the dressing room after the Qpr game in may, what an honour that would be for young Kelly and a massive shot in the arm from the legend that is Carra
with Brendan's permission of course.

YNWA

No. Carra wouldn't want it

What's the point when Carra Junior will be wearing it in a few years 

No for me as well.

It doesnt matter if the number is 23 or the number is 99 and it might never be chosen.  Liverpool does not have the tradition to retire numbers and plus it gives the opportunity to a future lad to don the now legendary 23 and try his best for LFC.

No like some of you have said . Dalglish fowler rush all legends and their numbers are still worn so.......

Not for me, I rather see it inspire another squad member.

From what I've read above, so far, a resounding no!!!!

From a personal point of view, I would be against retiring the shirt as someone else says, "Let new heroes emerge" & wouldn't think Carra would like to see his shirt number being retired.
Yes, I do agree that it would set a precedent for other shirt numbers from the other legends to be retired if that was the way to go...can you imagine a team without the iconic numbers 7, 8, 9, 10 etc to name a few?

I just wanted to gauge the feeling as so far removed from discussions on all things LFC matters in the pubs on match day...god, I miss them days! Used to travel over 4 to 5 times a season when I was younger with a couple of lads & the banter/craic in the pubs before & after matches were some of the reasons I love about Liverpool as well the matches & night life.

Thanks peeps for engaging in this thread!

Out and Out No. The club's interests come before those of any player.

We gave him a testimonial. That was our mark of respect.

No.

\What about Gerrard's number? KK's? Fowler's? Thats 4 numbers already. Pretty soon, our next hero will have to wear number 101.

Fifa does not allow for shirts to be retired. One of them silly rules , but they didnt even allow argentina to retire #10 when maradona retired.

Fifa does not allow for shirts to be retired. One of them silly rules , but they didnt even allow argentina to retire #10 when maradona retired.

So how the rossinieri get away with it then with no. 6 & soon to be No. 3?

Fifa does not allow for shirts to be retired. One of them silly rules , but they didnt even allow argentina to retire #10 when maradona retired.

Not that I'm questioning you Quico but I'm sure even if FIFA did it's easy to get around by just not using the number although in international competitions they probably insist on a list of 1-23.

Much easier for a club side to do it I'd imagine.

Back to us and 23 and should never and hopefully will neve happen.

Stupid idea.