Which defenders would you like LFC to bring in and how many?

After another mistake from defense last night i believe we need MAJOR strengthing at CB with Carra retiring and Coates and Skrtel just not good enough for where we want to be. I believe we need 3 CB's in the summer mixed with experience and youth. Defenders i would like to see come in are:
 
Howedes from Schalke fantastic old school defender who is still youngish at 24 who can operate at CB, RB or CM if needed. He would be costly though probably around 10/15 mil but would be well worth it.

Toby Alderweireld from Ajax looks a very promising and hitting into his prime at the age of 23.

I would also like Ashley Williams whatever you say about him he knows how to defend as well as he can play on his feet and i think him and Agger would compliment each other big time. As well as this BR knows him and will know how to get the best out of him even though hes 28 going on 29 need experience.

Ryan Shawcross would be a good shout to replace Carragher as a no nonsense defender with some good tutoring from the LFC staff to get up to a better level as has potential to do better.

Ya would think Rodgers would have asked Carragher on his opinion as who to target as replacements...

If we don't sell anyone we only need one. I think there are other areas we need to improve in so we're in no position to buy three defenders really unless we get a massive fee for Skrtel.

New CB, Agger, Skrtel and Coates should be fine. Even if Coates leaves, Kelly/Wisdom can be fourth choice and start to get some game time at CB.

Not sure who we should target really. Heard good things about Howedes but I've not seen him play. From the Premier League only Shawcross and Williams interest me.

Did anybody in the Zenit backline impress you?...Leto reminded me of Ricardo Carvalho for his cynical defending but efficient. Also Hoboran (spl) impressed me with his commitment to throw himself into every challenge in trying to clear the lines.

If we don't sell anyone we only need one. I think there are other areas we need to improve in so we're in no position to buy three defenders really unless we get a massive fee for Skrtel.

New CB, Agger, Skrtel and Coates should be fine. Even if Coates leaves, Kelly/Wisdom can be fourth choice and start to get some game time at CB.

Not sure who we should target really. Heard good things about Howedes but I've not seen him play. From the Premier League only Shawcross and Williams interest me.

Coates will not be a Liverpool Player next year and i dont think BR is too keen on Skrtel if he can get a good price for him id say he's off that leaves us 3 short with Carra retiring...i agree Wisdom to move into CB because has no chance at RB with GJ & Kelly back. Shawcross would be a great addition proper CB!

It'll be Ashley Williams, absolutely nailed on!!

When I say I should be LFC scout, I'm not joking!

I've been talking about Howedes long before he had even made it as a first team regular at Schalke. He's now a German international and Schalke's captain. He's very commanding in the heart of defense. Often plays on the right side as well.

I like the look of Alderweireld as well but haven't seen him play enough.

Hope it aint Ashley Williams. Far from convinced about him.

Really don't want Williams, is he the Welsh Pique? He's good for Swansea as was Allen, but for Liverpool Football Club you're havin' a f***in larfff!

Really don't want Williams, is he the Welsh Pique?

Pique's sh*te.

Hope it aint Ashley Williams. Far from convinced about him.

Me too, just wish Brendan would cast his net a bit further than Swansea!

Inigo Martinez and Dejan Lovren.

I wouldn't write Martin Skrtel off just yet. A year ago everyone was raving about him, and he's definately good enough to be in our squad. When he's playing well he's a very good centre half.

I agree though we'll probably need two. Coates isn't IMHO going to be ever good enough, whie Carra is stepping down. I've a hunch Wisdom might develop into a proper centre half despite his relative lack of height, while many hold out hopes that Kelly will become one (I don't but I've been wrong before).

As for who o bring in, I really like Williams. He's my type of player, a good pro who's hungry and who you'd want on your side in a pub fight. I read today he's blocked more shots than any centre half in Europe this season, and my one and only reservation is that he'd cost a bomb. We probably coud find better value in Europe.

Wisdom has got to be at least level height as Williams if not taller. Got a few years to grow some more too.

I wouldn't write Martin Skrtel off just yet. A year ago everyone was raving about him, and he's definately good enough to be in our squad. When he's playing well he's a very good centre half.

I agree though we'll probably need two. Coates isn't IMHO going to be ever good enough, whie Carra is stepping down. I've a hunch Wisdom might develop into a proper centre half despite his relative lack of height, while many hold out hopes that Kelly will become one (I don't but I've been wrong before).

As for who o bring in, I really like Williams. He's my type of player, a good pro who's hungry and who you'd want on your side in a pub fight. I read today he's blocked more shots than any centre half in Europe this season, and my one and only reservation is that he'd cost a bomb. We probably coud find better value in Europe.

I'd definitely keep Skrtel, we can't keep complaining about lack of depth and then in the next breath say we should be getting rid of players who are more than capable of coming in and performing. I don't believe he is good enough to start week in-week out, but as 3rd choice, you'd struggle to find better IMO.

With regards to Williams, he's impressed me, but not massively, I think we could get better than him, especially for the price we will have to pay. I can't pretend to watch too much European football, I barely even watch English football apart from Liverpool! However, I'd much rather us pick up an established, strong presence, who can organise the defence, because when Carra retires, that's something we're going to miss more than anything else.

Did anybody in the Zenit backline impress you?...Leto reminded me of Ricardo Carvalho for his cynical defending but efficient. Also Hoboran (spl) impressed me with his commitment to throw himself into every challenge in trying to clear the lines.

I'll tell you who impressed me... Neto.  He was always quickly up in our boys' nose whenever they cross into the final third. ..... and most importantly, his uncanny ability to dodge being carded. 

I wouldn't write Martin Skrtel off just yet. A year ago everyone was raving about him, and he's definately good enough to be in our squad. When he's playing well he's a very good centre half.

I agree though we'll probably need two. Coates isn't IMHO going to be ever good enough, whie Carra is stepping down. I've a hunch Wisdom might develop into a proper centre half despite his relative lack of height, while many hold out hopes that Kelly will become one (I don't but I've been wrong before).

As for who o bring in, I really like Williams. He's my type of player, a good pro who's hungry and who you'd want on your side in a pub fight. I read today he's blocked more shots than any centre half in Europe this season, and my one and only reservation is that he'd cost a bomb. We probably coud find better value in Europe.

He's taller than Carra.

I disagree about williams, I really don't think he's very good at all.
A decent journeyman pro, but not good enough for us if we want to progress.
We should be replacing outgoing players with better ones, not worse.

Ashley Williams is no improvement on Skrtel. Think we could get Raul Albiol? Arsenal have been linked with him fairly often but never us. He's quality.

As for who o bring in, I really like Williams. He's my type of player, a good pro who's hungry and who you'd want on your side in a pub fight. I read today he's blocked more shots than any centre half in Europe this season, and my one and only reservation is that he'd cost a bomb. We probably coud find better value in Europe.

Agree with all your points there.

Think Williams has been in the top three centre backs this season and he was also very impressive last season.

We need a top defender to not only replace Carra but to provide competition for our 1st choice pairing as well. I'd go for Mats Hummels. He's young, experience, definitely talented and of top quality. Agger & Skrtel will be thoroughly concern if a player like Hummels arrive at our club.

We need a top defender to not only replace Carra but to provide competition for our 1st choice pairing as well. I'd go for Mats Hummels. He's young, experience, definitely talented and of top quality. Agger & Skrtel will be thoroughly concern if a player like Hummels arrive at our club.

As if he will come from BVB to here.

Ryan Shawcross or someone of his type. TAkes no sh!t and will be the first to give a rollicking if someone messes up. Williams hell no keep him in South Wales.

Nevin Subotic from BVB

Both he and Hummels are excellent

But if we want to be realistic, we could do with Shawcross, he has height and aggressivness.

Anyone saying Shawcross needs to have a real look at the way they view football. He's nothing but a big thug and if he played for any team other than Stoke everyone would recognise it.

I wouldn't write Martin Skrtel off just yet. A year ago everyone was raving about him, and he's definately good enough to be in our squad. When he's playing well he's a very good centre half.

Excellent under Hodgson and Kenny in systems were we defended deep.

Not so excellent in Rafa's or Rodgers' high defensive lines.

Excellent under Hodgson and Kenny in systems were we defended deep.

Not so excellent in Rafa's or Rodgers' high defensive lines.

Spot on. I think his defensive "flaws" become more apparent when we play with wingbacks as well, probably because he  ballwatches rather than being aware of what is happening around him.

Think we can get better, but definitely good enough to keep as a squad player.

You could also argue the mistake from the game was another midfielder putting a defender under unnecessary pressure. We need to strengthen our defence with cover, not sell defenders. As for Shawcross, as someone else said, the lad is a thug and we don't need players who are liable to get themselves sent off in matches.

Rodgers went to holland watch Feyenoord Vs PSV talk of Stefan De Vrij...any1 know anything about him?...I hope he went to see Kevin Strootman the midfeilder supose to be very good player yet havent seen him play...

....any old hard b***ard from Stoke, Oldham or other b***ard team that can b***ard well kick f**king lumps off people and bully em.

Brendans bringing them in with ballet shoes on.

Tommy Smiths grandkid if he has one.

Mehdi Benatia from Udinese. He's improving every season and has experience in a top league with a good coach.

And I'd discount any German currently in the Bundesliga. They don't seem keen to leave their homeland.

Good shout that crouchi

BRING BACK KYRGIAKOS

BRING BACK KYRGIAKOS

Why not go the whole hog and get Sami to lace up his boots again!!

Why not go the whole hog and get Sami to lace up his boots again!!

Because the world is not ready for a Sami - Kyrgiakos partnership.

And never will be.

Would obviously love Howedes and Hummells at the club but I'd be happy if we just got one of them and pushed through Kelly to CB.

Because the world is not ready for a Sami - Kyrgiakos partnership.

And never will be.

Thank christ, I'd never want to lumber a legend with that greek grock!!

Ideally, I'd bust my balls to get Baines, he to me would be bang on in terms of recruiting the type of player that would take us to another level defensively, he oozes class that fella, and it's such a shame he plies his trade at that wee shitty club across the park, a decent offer of around £15m-£20m could be enough to make Kenwright cum in his pants,

As for a cb, tbh I'm not clued up on the fella Howedes but I trust other posters evaluation of him, I like Ashley Williams  @ Swans but I'd rather we save some millions and promote from within ie young Kelly,
Skrtle for me blows to hot & cold but I certainly would not sell him, Enrique is the same but this time I would sell on the proviso we get Baines, I would then make Jack Robinson Baines understudy.

     YNWA

Ideally, I'd bust my balls to get Baines, he to me would be bang on in terms of recruiting the type of player that would take us to another level defensively, he oozes class that fella, and it's such a shame he plies his trade at that wee shitty club across the park, a decent offer of around £15m-£20m could be enough to make Kenwright cum in his pants,

As for a cb, tbh I'm not clued up on the fella Howedes but I trust other posters evaluation of him, I like Ashley Williams  @ Swans but I'd rather we save some millions and promote from within ie young Kelly,
Skrtle for me blows to hot & cold but I certainly would not sell him, Enrique is the same but this time I would sell on the proviso we get Baines, I would then make Jack Robinson Baines understudy.

     YNWA

The thought of Kenwright's face would be a picture but I doubt it would happen, a couple of cb's are the main focus, someone like Dawson and the lad from Feyenoord would do me fine.

FORGET ABOUT BAINES

It aint gonna happen same as Fellani
Don't get me wrong i'd have both all day but there is no chance

Good to see Brendan in Holland looking at players we could sign
Bruno Martins & Stephan De Vrij both fit the bill

Erik Peters for left back while we're on the subject too..

Martin Caceres from Juve. The man is a dinamo, and one of the best tacklers in world football theese days. Also, he is tactically very applied and i wouldnt want him to go to Arsenal as rumored


He plays well in any position in Defence Left or right.

 Garay anyone??

Garay anyone??

All hype no performance IMO. Don't rate him at all.

Martin Caceres from Juve. The man is a dinamo, and one of the best tacklers in world football theese days. Also, he is tactically very applied and i wouldnt want him to go to Arsenal as rumored


He plays well in any position in Defence Left or right.

Yes!

Caceras is a beast.

Yes!

Caceras is a beast.

Id buy him for this alone:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g3bYVKez-k

We were linked with him when he was in Spain. Looked a little raw then but he is an animal now.

If Skrtel leaves, i'd love to have him here.

It is difficult. Defenders like Terry, Carvalho, Carragher, Pepe, Puyol etc. They can be liabilities but they can defend and lead. I think the only thing keeping Utd in it, is not RVP but Ferdinand, Evra, Vidic oh and the FA and the Refs. Defenders who are confident, can lead and can defend is what we need (at least one). They don't have to be great players with the ball, despite our new look football. In fact their mentality doesn't allow for great passing football, but we need one. I think Agger, Skertl and the rest are very talented football players and defenders but they aren't leaders and they aren't out and out natural defenders.

Ramos

Think Hummels and Howedes are out of our price range and I don't see why they'd leave two Champions League teams to come here. Think it's far more likely we'll look for a bargain defender below 5 million, such as Vegard Forren who we seem to have missed out on.

Also I think three centre backs are abit much to ask, we'd be spending the whole summer on the position.

Martin Caceres from Juve. The man is a dinamo, and one of the best tacklers in world football theese days. Also, he is tactically very applied and i wouldnt want him to go to Arsenal as rumored


He plays well in any position in Defence Left or right.

In my book he is sh*te in every position he plays and had never held down a regular spot anywhere,  plus the fact he seems to wear oversized shorts, they look like crap catchers !

Think Hummels and Howedes are out of our price range and I don't see why they'd leave two Champions League teams to come here. Think it's far more likely we'll look for a bargain defender below 5 million, such as Vegard Forren who we seem to have missed out on.

Also I think three centre backs are abit much to ask, we'd be spending the whole summer on the position.

Scored against us in the reserves game last week.

keeping in mind that we are on a serious budget and bringing in 3 random defenders isnt something thats likely, I believe Kelly and Wisdom should be played in their prefered positions as CB's, together with a versatile Player that could play both LB/RB

In my book he is sh*te in every position he plays and had never held down a regular spot anywhere,  plus the fact he seems to wear oversized shorts, they look like crap catchers !

Well i think he is fantastic. Its hard to start for barca, and he was bought by juve who was 1st on the serie a so its no wonder he isnt a regular.

 Anyone here know how good is really Sakho??

Hey guys I'm new to this forum, I'm from the Netherlands so if you have any questions about Dutch players or Eredivisie players you can ask me. I saw some people suggest Alderweireld above. You just don't want him, he's not fast, not strong, and always in the wrong place.
I also saw someone suggest my club's (PSV) player Erik Pieters. He's definatly not good for Liverpool. He's pretty decent, but not for a Liverpool wanting to go back to the top. Willems is the first leftback of PSV now. He's better then Pieters in my eyes. He's only 18, is fast, just dribbles arounds his man and is a good defender. He also was the youngest player at the EC last year at the age of 17 he was in the first eleven of the Dutch squad.
Is it allowed to post a video here? Because I want to give you guys an impression:
Jetro Willems | Finally a good Dutch defender
(If it's against the rules I'm sorry, just tell me)
But he would me a great talent for the leftback place.

keeping in mind that we are on a serious budget and bringing in 3 random defenders isnt something thats likely, I believe Kelly and Wisdom should be played in their prefered positions as CB's, together with a versatile Player that could play both LB/RB

That is an excellent shout, both Kelly and Wisdom are centre backs and are the ideal candidates in my mind. Two tough hard cu*ts who love the fight. I'm pretty sure Kelly is due to return this month.

Think Hummels and Howedes are out of our price range and I don't see why they'd leave two Champions League teams to come here. Think it's far more likely we'll look for a bargain defender below 5 million, such as Vegard Forren who we seem to have missed out on.

Howedes will be entering the last 12 months of his contract this summer.  If he wants to move, he will be sold for somewhere in the realm of 10M like Vertonghen was last summer.  10M for a top CB who fits our style of play is really not too much to ask.  He has great technical ability, is good with the ball at his feet, has better pace than most CB's, and is strong enough to hold his own against big CF's. 

We should not be looking to sell Skrtel.  He has had poor moments this season, but haven't most of our players?  Add a little more competition at CB and we will be in good shape.

Howedes will be entering the last 12 months of his contract this summer.  If he wants to move, he will be sold for somewhere in the realm of 10M like Vertonghen was last summer.  10M for a top CB who fits our style of play is really not too much to ask.  He has great technical ability, is good with the ball at his feet, has better pace than most CB's, and is strong enough to hold his own against big CF's. 

We should not be looking to sell Skrtel.  He has had poor moments this season, but haven't most of our players?  Add a little more competition at CB and we will be in good shape.

If Howedes is available for 10m that'd be a good siging I think. Skrtel and Agger both need better competition for their place next year and Howedes would certainly provide talented competition, at a good price too. As mentioned we still have Kelly and Wisdom to get a go at CB so I think only another left full back is needed to compete with Enrique. Baines would be fantastic but maybe unrealistic. Not sure on the other possibilities. Jetro Willems looked completely out of place at the World Cup though he was of course very young. Haven't seen much other than highlights of PSV so can't judge him now.

Ramos

Most overhyped defender around in my opinion.

Jetro Willems is nowhere near an improvement or competition for the LB spot for us. Only reason he's involved with our national team is because the left back position has been our weakest ever since Van Bronckhorst retired.

We have been linked with Carlos Zambrano according to Teamtalk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Zambrano_(footballer)

Look at his goalscoaring record for a defender. 16 goals in 42 games for Peru! And gets a couple of goals a season even though, he has not played a lot of games

Think that's fake nelioneil, don't trust everything you see on wiki. I think he has 2 goals in 21 games for Peru.

Think that's fake nelioneil, don't trust everything you see on wiki. I think he has 2 goals in 21 games for Peru.

I think you are right, damn Wikipedia

Think that's fake nelioneil, don't trust everything you see on wiki. I think he has 2 goals in 21 games for Peru.

Yes, but that statistic was made by Nostradamus, he is bound to start scoring anytime soon

Yes, but that statistic was made by Nostradamus, he is bound to start scoring anytime soon

Do you mean Zambrano or Nostradamus? They say Nostradamus is bound to score at some time with his predictions as a matter of course.

Zambrano? He is a strong tackler, good in the air. Can lose his mind from time to time. Usually displays the maximum annoyance possible without getting a yellow, kind of a dirty f**ker. Has some leadership qualities too, but he's still young. He's like a defending Suarez. Only not a freaking genius. I don't know if he's LFC quality, but he's a pretty good defender.

I'm not sure about who we should bring in and I for one would keep Skrtel.  I think all of our CBs have suffered at times due to lack of protection and maybe this is something the opposition has deliberately set out to exploit.

Shawcross I dislike for his over physical approach.  Ashley Williams strikes me as nothing more than a British CB who would be massively overpriced and wouldn't improve us to the level we want.  And does Brendan really need to go back to Swansea again - I mean we gave them £15M for a guy with potential.  We'd get much better value looking around Europe so lets hope our much talked about scouting system has been doing it's homework and BR.

Zambrano? He is a strong tackler, good in the air. Can lose his mind from time to time. Usually displays the maximum annoyance possible without getting a yellow, kind of a dirty f**ker. Has some leadership qualities too, but he's still young. He's like a defending Suarez. Only not a freaking genius. I don't know if he's LFC quality, but he's a pretty good defender.

I really like what I've seen of him, which is not too much to be honest though.

Another player from Frankfurt I wouldn't mind having is Sebastian Rode

keeping in mind that we are on a serious budget and bringing in 3 random defenders isnt something thats likely, I believe Kelly and Wisdom should be played in their prefered positions as CB's, together with a versatile Player that could play both LB/RB

Great shout pastor and in a ideal world it's what id do to, but I feel it's a season to early to put them both in and expect them to be top class all season,
playing them both gradually will let their confidence grow and eventually they will become regulars, just a tad to early IMO at the mo.

         IBWT   YNWA

Varane from Real. He's doing very well for my Fifa 13 LFC - Team. 

Rodgers went to holland watch Feyenoord Vs PSV talk of Stefan De Vrij...any1 know anything about him?...I hope he went to see Kevin Strootman the midfeilder supose to be very good player yet havent seen him play...

De Vrij is a good CB, pretty fast, very good build up and doesn't make mistakes very often. He's young and has just 1 year left on his contract so I think Liverpool could get him. The only dissapointment is that he doesn't really have the "body" of a defender, he isn't very strong. You're right about Strootman btw, But he would cost around 15/20 million euro. De Vrij would be around 5 to 10 I guess.

Ashley Cole!!!

Tomas Kalas from the Chavs. Fifa 13 God!

 Varane's gonna be world class.

We've been linked with so many CB's already, most appear to be purely speculation.  So I'm not sure what to think just yet.  So far though I've seen various links for the following:

de Vrij
Indi-Martins
Sakho
Lovren
Dede
Ogbonna
Zambrano
Ashley Williams
Isimat-Mirin

Head is spinning with all these names.  Definitely some good talent in there, if in fact we move for any of those guys.  One thing is for sure, this has become a priority area for us heading into the crazy season.

Well, for the sake of my Ultimate Team, we should bring in Dede, Felipe Santana, and Miranda as they can all keep up with the pace whores on the game

Realistically though, I am not sure..... 

One player I would like us to look at is Luiz Gustavo.  He is a very good and versatile player, who could play in a holding midfield role and could also fill in at CB if/when required.  Bayern may well be willing to sell him as they have another young gem coming through the ranks as a deep lying CM - Emre Can.  They have Schweini, Kroos, and Martinez as CM's, and with Emre Can coming through they may entertain a bid for Gustavo....

Well, for the sake of my Ultimate Team, we should bring in Dede, Felipe Santana, and Miranda as they can all keep up with the pace whores on the game

Realistically though, I am not sure..... 

One player I would like us to look at is Luiz Gustavo.  He is a very good and versatile player, who could play in a holding midfield role and could also fill in at CB if/when required.  Bayern may well be willing to sell him as they have another young gem coming through the ranks as a deep lying CM - Emre Can.  They have Schweini, Kroos, and Martinez as CM's, and with Emre Can coming through they may entertain a bid for Gustavo....

I've been thinking of Gustavo for a while as well, particularly in light of him having his time limited somewhat. He can fill in at LB as well, but he's probably only best used as a midfielder.

Not sure where to start with the personel, but on current form we need about four central defenders to select from and a couple each of right and left backs.  When we don't have players fighting for a berth, they  seem to get complacent in their performances. We could drop them and give them a good kick up the arse if we had enough cover.

Thiago Silva - he was boss on Tuesday night.

Thiago Silva - he was boss on Tuesday night.

I think you're meant to be realistic with your choices...

The question was...    Which defenders would you like LFC to bring in

my answer is ...     Thiago Silva

lets aim high and then come down a peg or two if we must

Neven Subotic. Doesn't even start at Dortmund, could snap him up

Neven Subotic. Doesn't even start at Dortmund, could snap him up

Subotic starts all the time. He's started 21 of 27 Bundesliga fixtures - and that's keeping in mind he was injured at one point.