Simon Mignolet Player Thread: > Club Bruges

I know this is going back a bit but when we signed him did anyone recognise him as particularly exceptional?
I think he came as an average keeper, he's taken a dip and became a poor keeper.
Least with Pepe he arrived exceptional, took a dip after 6 years and became average. There's no return for this keeper Valdes will be our no 1 as soon as he signs

just watched City and Chelsea and looked at their goalkeepers and Chelsea even have Cech on the bench. Simon is not as good as Pepe not in the same league.

Good young shot stopper. All round game? Not so good.

Not helped by what is now an average team - esp the defensive midfield infront of him.

To think Pepe was given the boot...WTF.

Good shot stopper but not decisive enough on crosses or on clearing his lines.

That incident with Skrtel was shocking and rightly so he got a right bollocking from his centre back.

Just needs a settled back four in front of him and some proper competition for his place.
He has the ability i believe to be a pretty good keeper...certainly better than he has shown at times over the last 18 months.

Ripped apart on MNF tonight.

Ripped apart on MNF tonight.

Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of Migs, but I thought it was a bit harsh

He has made some defining saves that won us points, and also, no where at fault for the everton equaliser, nothing he could've done.

Confidence breeds success... Simon is low on this - which is worrying the defence and causing them to 'over work / over play' and make mistakes. What he needs to work on is managing crosses and commanding the area, this has cost us a few goals lately and he really needs to sort it out.

Good observation this.

Ripped apart on MNF tonight.

What were they saying?

It was something I didn't really see until I saw him live and now I can't help but see it all the time, the failure on several occasions to come for balls that were his to come and collect and, much worse in my opinion, the times when he was being vocal, he was ignored.  Seems to be some sort of issue between the keeper and the back four.

I have faith in the guy, he worries me at times, but I still believe we have a top keeper on our hands.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=WV54FCLE6Ho

Link for Monday night football above

Link for Monday night football above

Cheers Emsy, have to say they make a strong case and I'd agree with every word. The worrying part is this is the area everyone keeps droning on about "he's a great shot stopper", I said last season a few times that I'd expect a great shot stopper to stop more than he does and make big saves at big moments which Simon doesn't seem to do.

Expect him to be replaced/dropped down a peg either by Valdes or in the summer.

I'll say this though, if Gary Neville is picking him out for that technical error so consistently what is our goal keeping coach doing. I've had an issue with coaching for a long time and since Xavi Valero left I haven't been convinced by our goal keeping coaching, or our defensive coaching. At least the issue is out there now, let's see if anything improves.

Unsure when we signed him and very unsure now.

Cant see him being our number 1 this time next season as he has too many flaws in his game.

What were they saying?

High;lighted some of his "slouched" positioning which led to shots going high getting past hime by only inches. If his starting position had been standing bigh he'd have saved shots like Man city away last year. They were spot on. Carra also said he has yet to really make a save that becomes a game changer saying for example when Ba was through after Stevies slip go and make a name for yourself and make a save that might win the league.

I have stood firm on Mignolet and do believe he is a good keeper and young enough to improve but theres no arguing with what Neville highlighted last night   

I think they are 100% spot on with the analysis of Mignolet! KopiteLuke you make a very good point about the quality of goalkeeping since Xavi Valero left. He wasn't just a great help for goal keepers, he helped our star striker at the time:

"Well Liverpool's goalkeeping coach Xavi Valero doesn't have to imagine – for this is exactly what happened to him this summer when Fernando Torres revealed how information from his countryman about opposition shot-stoppers was a major factor in him breaking the 30-goals barrier last term."

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/features/rafa-s-bootroom-xavi-valero

The fact is that he is under pressure because we are not doing well - last season whilst there were the purists on at him he got away with a lot...

Personally I still believe he is not the issue, its the defence. We can discuss that he doesn't come for the ball all day long - but if a defender should be able to clear it then he doesn't need to. My issue is that he is having to face too many shots, headers or scrambles because our CB's are not doing their job. Again, this leads to Simon having to work a lot harder - due to lack of confidence in his defence.

I hate to bring up other players in this, but Gerrard, Lukas and Hendo have been shadows of their performances last season because they are tracking back to cover the defence. This is congesting the area (out half) with players and making Simons life a lot harder...

However, in the last 3 games in the prem can anyone really say he was at fault for any of the goals conceded?

Yes, he has to work on his crosses and his command of the area - but our defence needs to cut out the number of chances we are gifting our keeper.

According to the Express we are poised to move for Barca 'keeper Valdes who is a free agent, to replace Mignolet as no 1 choice.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/516833/Mignolet-Liverpool-Career-Valdes

Mignolet meanwhile insists he has no worries about his place in the team.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/clubs/liverpool/article4221626.ece

Sometimes I fear for a shocking mistake when a cross or corner against us
 I Have FULL faith in Mignolet  on the goal line, but I think he lacks confidence with crosses and making the box his own, often brings his defenders in difficulty
 as someone said above seeing the chavs goalkeeper how he uses all the box and makes it his own. to be honest don't see it in Simon, Guess  thats one of the reason Cortiuos is in front of him internationally
  Not saying he is sh*te or something , But saying rodgers should adresws this with some pro, training sessions on the issue
 
YNWA

Off topic slightly, but isnt it about time this club start producing some good goalkeepers. We have not done it once. Every keeper we have had since Clemence has had some fault to there game. And another thing if Gary Neville can find a flaw in Mignolets game which has led to goals how the fook has our goalkeeping coach not done so when thats his job?

So thats hire a proper good goalkeeping coach nad start producing top young keepers through the clubs ranks. Thanks

Sometimes I fear for a shocking mistake when a cross or corner against us
 I Have FULL faith in Mignolet  on the goal line, but I think he lacks confidence with crosses and making the box his own, often brings his defenders in difficulty
 as someone said above seeing the chavs goalkeeper how he uses all the box and makes it his own. to be honest don't see it in Simon, Guess  thats one of the reason Cortiuos is in front of him internationally
  Not saying he is sh*te or something , But saying rodgers should adresws this with some pro, training sessions on the issue
 
YNWA

Some 'keepers will venture further when the opportunity demands, a master of the tactic was Pepe Reina although occasionally it did go tits up even for him - irrespective of the fact the defenders in his day were established, experience performers. The same defenders did on occasion misjudge and leave Pepe exposed - sh*t happens.

The last line for Mignolet is neither established or experienced, is it any wonder he is a tad nervous when his confidence (to say nothing of ours) in the back four is shot?

Off topic slightly, but isnt it about time this club start producing some good goalkeepers. We have not done it once. Every keeper we have had since Clemence has had some fault to there game. And another thing if Gary Neville can find a flaw in Mignolets game which has led to goals how the fook has our goalkeeping coach not done so when thats his job?

So thats hire a proper good goalkeeping coach nad start producing top young keepers through the clubs ranks. Thanks

Established quality cost what it does Brian, hence the lack of in the striking dept, midfield and defence.
We are now apparently running the rule over a 32 year old 'keeper on a free transfer to replace Mignolet. 

on the goal line

The problem with Migs is he rarely gets off the bloody thing.