"We Need To Talk About Gerrard."

First time i've looked at this thread was this morning & i have to say i'm flabbergasted tbh
Do people really think Jordan Henderson is a better bet than Steven Gerrard???

Whoever honestly thinks that should seriously think about watching an alternative sport imo
Gerrard may not be scoring as many 25 yarders as he once did but his influence on not only
the game but the club is greater than ever. Henderson or any other player on at our club
would crumble under the pressure of trying to fill his boots.

Drop Steven Gerrard & you open a car of worms you seriously don't want to open.
All of Europe's top manager's would take him in a heartbeat & we would be damaged for EVER..

Do you seriously think Suarez would have listened to what Jordan had to say re him staying?

Gerrard is Irreplaceable to our club simple as that..

I don't know how I continue to take a look at this thread
 Why some are trying to say '""gerrard is finished,he is too slow, he is not fit,he is not up to it etc etc""
  I am sure if he  himself feels that he is one of those things, he himself will talk to BR  about it, He loves this club that much
   And to think BR don't have the guts to drop gerrard if needed is rediculous in my opinion
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   So I think for next game against Palace LIVERPOOL are without Lucas  after 5 yellows,  would love to see Alberto start with Stevie and hendo or Allen  in midfield

 ynwa

Love him. If he's fit, he starts. Simple.

What a horrible but necessary thread this. Nobody wants to think about life after Gerrard because he's been part of the woodwork here for so long, half of my time supporting the Reds in fact. A lot of the guys on this forum have only known a Liverpool team with Gerrard in it.
Gerrard is far from being done, but I just don't think he's able to be the Gerrard of old in every game this season.
Come January FSG have to make A gerrard replacement their No1 target, regardless of the fecking cost, its too big a player to replace on the cheap.
For sure Stevie would benefit from being rested in certain games, Pity we didn't strengthen the midfield in the Summer though.

No one can deny that Gerrard has to be part of this club for a long time to come and we need his presence on the field because quite frankly no one comes close to replacing him, definitely not from within our squad and I can't find any footballer from outside who is both as capable and available. However, I believe the time has come when he can't play the single minute of each match and needs to be given an odd break here and there. One thing that's stopping us from taking him off after 70 minutes or so is our inability to finish off the games. This is one area of our squad which I would like to address immediately in the coming transfer window.

They haven't been playing that well as you say mate which is why the debate came about in the thread Mick started abd this one started by myself.

The whole point of a discussion forum is to debate such issues and many of us see a problem in the two as far as how well they have blended together this season and how an apparant lack of fitness and mobility has been very obvious against a few teams in the last few weeks.

I don't see it as moaning for the sake of it from Mick, myself or anyone else who's questioned the two together but what I will say is that I'll be delighted to be proven wrong as both are two of my favourite players in the squad.

Ay I get that mate and my post wasn't aimed at either you or Mick. My point was more aimed towards yesterday's game. Gerrard was getting singled out as poor during the game and he wasn't that bad. A hand in two goals but people singling him out when others were doing worse.

For their goal there is a strong argument that if Allen was in either Stevie's or Lucas' position then Ki doesn't get his shot off.

For me the system doesn't do either any favours though.

 The only reason we need to talk about Gerrard is to than our lucky stars we've got him, and to ask ourselves who is going to be the best midfielder to compliment him going forward into the rest of this season and next.

The only reason we need to talk about Gerrard is to than our lucky stars we've got him, and to ask ourselves who is going to be the best midfielder to compliment him going forward into the rest of this season and next.

If that is the case Mick and Gerrard needs to play then the man beside him definitely can't be Lucas.

Against the likes of Sunderland we'll be ok but it's when we face a good midfield that the combination, and limitations of it, become more obvious.

The only reason we need to talk about Gerrard is to than our lucky stars we've got him, and to ask ourselves who is going to be the best midfielder to compliment him going forward into the rest of this season and next.

We need to be looking for his replacement.
Count our lucky stars he came through the academy,
because it will take a 30-40M player to step in afterwards.

Ay I get that mate and my post wasn't aimed at either you or Mick. My point was more aimed towards yesterday's game. Gerrard was getting singled out as poor during the game and he wasn't that bad. A hand in two goals but people singling him out when others were doing worse.

For their goal there is a strong argument that if Allen was in either Stevie's or Lucas' position then Ki doesn't get his shot off.

For me the system doesn't do either any favours though.

He certainly wasn't poor, as some suggest.
I think one of the main problems is that we have become used to him being excellent, and when his form slips it's magnified.

For me though, he's not anywhere near 100% physically.
When he gets back up there, we'll see an upturn in his form.
He certainly looked more mobile yesterday than he has for a few games, but I still don't see him putting in full sprints, and by that I mean really stretching his legs and going for it, rather than just the fast jogging, so for now I'm sticking with my theory that he's carrying a niggling injury. Not bad enough to stop him playing, but enough to restrict him a bit.

unfortunately for him he is being judged by his standards when he was a match winner all on his own.But he is playing a different role now and I think he is doing just fine,who else could have picked out that pass to Sturridge and put it on a sixpence Daniel didn't even have to break his stride.
Nurture him and keep him fit and healthy because we will never see another one

We had this with Carra for years, he would have one or two off games and he would be 'past it'.  Seems to me we apply different standards to players in their early 30s, when other players play badly its a bad day at the office, when Stevie has an off day he's past his best and no longer good enough for the first team.
Seems to me the facts simply do not support this view and to me, he's still amongst our best 3 players most games.

So we're having the best start in years and are second in the league... Now seems like a really good time to drop our captain and the face of the club... Wait WHAT?! Honestly some people think this is as easy as replacing a player on Fifa with someone younger who's stats will grow quicker if he plays now rather than when he's ready.

For all those interested in this debate about Stevie, I strongly recommend listening to the latest Anfield Wrap podcast, some excellent points made on there regarding what his position should be and how we will cope if he picks up an injury for an extended period and force the team to play without him.

For all those interested in this debate about Stevie, I strongly recommend listening to the latest Anfield Wrap podcast, some excellent points made on there regarding what his position should be and how we will cope if he picks up an injury for an extended period and force the team to play without him.

It was interesting.

Centre back anyone?

The fact that this thread has 6 pages to our best every player and captain is truly embarrasing. Football fans are the most fickle fuckers ever, thank god every manager in the country disagrees with us, from the England manager to the top managers in Europe....

The fact that this thread has 6 pages to our best every player and captain is truly embarrasing. Football fans are the most fickle fuckers ever, thank god every manager in the country disagrees with us, from the England manager to the top managers in Europe....

It was even worse in the run up to the transfer window...some were demanding the board's resignation after they refused to spend £30 million for Willian. 

It was even worse in the run up to the transfer window...some were demanding the board's resignation after they refused to spend £30 million for Willian.

Quit being a dick.

Quit being a dick.

calm down dear, it's only a football forum 

calm down dear

Like I said: quit being a dick. 

Like I said: quit being a dick.

Irony at its best. Bravo sir.

Irony at its best. Bravo sir.

Okay, different tack then - if you weren't trying to be a dick; what did you hope to achieve by your sniping? 

Irony at its best. Bravo sir.

Do you know the definition of irony? It appears not.