Who's our best Midfield 2 and temp No. 10 whilst Coutinho is out?

For me i would play Henderson and Gerrard together with Alberto as no 10, why did we buy a no 10 for that price if we didnt trust to put him in at home to Palace??

Henderson is a ball player he loves to play football and doesnt matter which postion he gives it his all, could we stick lucas as RWB no, could we stick Lucas as a No 10 but we could with Henderson and I dont think he gets the credit he deserves. As soon as his confidence to start doing some more risky crosses and shooting kicks in we might actually have a £16mil worth player. Lucas is then great cover for Gerrard as the senior DM player who we could bring on to hold onto a win etc. just a thought guys but interseted to see whats your choice and why

I know it will never happen under Brendan but I would like to see this given a go

Lucas  Allen

Gerrard

Lucas as thr DM, Allen as the one more advanced and Stevie sitting just behind Suarez and Sturridge and linking up with the attack. Gerrard wouldn't have to do too much work here and a three at the back would give that extra assurance so that he doesn't have to rush bakc and help the midfield.

 By default the midfield two is Gerrard and Henderson. Both practically pick themselves, Gerrard being the best holder by miles and Henderson the only midfielder we have bar Allen who can get about the pitch. Alberto will come, but he's a kid and I have no problem with the job Moses is doing in there.

Excellent, just what we need.
Another thread to slag off one of our best players.

We already have "is lucas holding us back" and the player thread.
This is just more of the same.

Gerrard and the midfielder we buy at Christmas

I honestly believe we can very easily improve on any of the other 3 midfielders Henderson, Lucas or Allen. Considering we paid the best part of £40million for the 3 of them, Lucas excluded we haven't really had the sort of return for our money we could have expected up to now.

I think we missed a trick in not signing Eriksen who would have slotted in nicely while Coutinho is injured, but hopefully Moses will not have to cover for the loss of Coutinho for much longer, although to be fair to Moses, I think he has shown he could adapt to the role given time.

       Hendo
Lucas    Gerrard

is our best combination IMO whether Coutinho is fit or not.

This is how I want us to play:

          Sturridge
Suarez                Coutinho
             Hendo
         Lucas      Gerrard

Hendo, Suarez and Coutinho have the inteligence to switch positions regularly and can cause troubles there. Hendo is less dangerous on the wing while Coutinho is a threat anywhere. The midfield is also stronger(stamina) and Coutinho does not have the fitness to play 90 min properly.

Henderson Lucas
     Gerrard

I still think Gerrard doesn't have the engine to play the deeper role on a regular basis anymore and pushing him further up may give us those much needed goals from midfield.

As a temporary measure I'd put Hendo in the hole until Coutinho returns, he can link up with both SaS as a top. 3 and has the engine to link with midfield,

Eventually Alberto will fill in once he gains enough experience, Gerrard and Lucas will dictate the pace and tempo depending who we're playing, if we are up against it Hendo can drop back to reinforce midfield and Luis can take Hendo's position;

              Mignolet
     Toure. Skrtle. Sakho
Moses.                      Enrique
          Gerrard.Lucas
                Hendo
        Suarez
                   Sturridge
                  Or

              Mignolet
    Toure. Skrtel. Sakho
Moses.                   Enrique
               Lucas
       Gerrard. Hendo
             Suarez
            Sturridge

Excellent, just what we need.
Another thread to slag off one of our best players.

We already have "is lucas holding us back" and the player thread.
This is just more of the same.

Yeah - we're JOINT TOP.
We've the same lads playing week in week out in the centre.
We don't can't rotate like Chelsea or Shitty etc.
Eventually you have to think we'll suffer because of that, but we still hanging on in there. So fair play to SG, Lucas and Hendo so far.
If we're still not far of the top come Jan, BR needs to freshen things up in the middle and bring in at least 1 more (decent quality) to help carry the 2nd half of the season.

By default the midfield two is Gerrard and Henderson. Both practically pick themselves, Gerrard being the best holder by miles and Henderson the only midfielder we have bar Allen who can get about the pitch. Alberto will come, but he's a kid and I have no problem with the job Moses is doing in there.

agree with you there mate, do you think we will make the Moses deal permiant? I t hink we will as on paper he wont get into a Chelsea side under the "twaty one" and i think he knows that. I reckon he wants the deal to be perminant as when he's getting interviewed he talks about LFC as if we are his perminant club

Yeah - we're JOINT TOP.
We've the same lads playing week in week out in the centre.
We don't can't rotate like Chelsea or Shitty etc.
Eventually you have to think we'll suffer because of that, but we still hanging on in there. So fair play to SG, Lucas and Hendo so far.
If we're still not far of the top come Jan, BR needs to freshen things up in the middle and bring in at least 1 more (decent quality) to help carry the 2nd half of the season.

Totally agree with you both, i'm not saying lucas is a "bad" player far from it what i'm saying is we need a "top quality" energetic mid player to help give us some power and pace in the middle something we lack.  A mascarino type player would be perfect, what do you guys think of Diame or Dembelle if we could land one of them two

Whilst Coutinho is out, we're short of a number 10, plain and simple. If it was me, I'd put Gerrard there and play Hendo in Stevie's current role alongside Lucas. Gerrard could comfortably do a job behind Suarez and Sturridge, in fact I think we'd score even more with Stevie further forward. Can't believe the shouts in some of the other threads for Stevie to be dropped, amazes me.

When Coutinho is fit then it's the normal three of Stevie, Lucas and Coutinho as the no.10.

Whilst Coutinho is out, we're short of a number 10, plain and simple. If it was me, I'd put Gerrard there and play Hendo in Stevie's current role alongside Lucas. Gerrard could comfortably do a job behind Suarez and Sturridge, in fact I think we'd score even more with Stevie further forward. Can't believe the shouts in some of the other threads for Stevie to be dropped, amazes me.

When Coutinho is fit then it's the normal three of Stevie, Lucas and Coutinho as the no.10.

its worth a shot, gives stevie a bit more freedom and saves his legs abit

its worth a shot, gives stevie a bit more freedom and saves his legs abit

Gerrard playing further forward will never happen under Rodgers as srslfc said earlier. He seems to want the captain playing deeper, with the feeling that he'll control the game from the middle of the park which is understandable. But he's been off form this season and struggled to get a foothold within the games we've played in so I'd try him further forward and see if he can recapture his form of old.

I would also give Alberto a shot in the no 10 role otherwise he was yet another "one for the future" which is good to have future options but not at that price! We have a great U21 side so why do we need to pay x amount for players similar age who dont feature at home to Palace, who are the worst side in the league. If he cant play at home against teams like Palace when can he play and could we have used that money to push through and some of the deals we missed out on this summer.

I rate Alberto but just feel we may have been over charged, really hope he gets a go in that no 10 role from the start of a game to see how he is. 

Gerrard is our best midfielder. After that it's a bit sparse. Henderson has improved a lot over the last few months, he'll never be that great, or be the sort of player who takes control of games, but he is functional enough.
 
We need a new CM badly.
 
As for Joe Allen. God only knows. He had a decent enough start, but was then largely abysmal.

Gerrard-Lucas for me any day

Gerrard-Lucas for me any day

would you still use Lucas in home games against "lesser" teams or would you not think a more dynamic player would be benificaial. if we are playing with 5 defenders if you include the wing backs. We would have 3 CB so why do we even need a DM? i think Lucas is great for them tricky away games but dont think we need to affectivly DM in him and Gerrard as it gives teams more possesion in the middle of the park as our two sit back. Just a thought but I think we scrap the DM role and either play Henderson, Alberto or Allen alongside Gerrard to do alot more the running for Gerrard that would then give him more of a advanced role.

Play a diamond.
Use all the midfielders.

Play a diamond.
Use all the midfielders.

Who would you have at the top of the dimond Gerrard with Lucas and Henderson behind?

                    Lucas

Henderson.            Gerrard

             Moses/Alberto


Effectively works similar to a 3-5-2.
3-5-2 being more beneficial given our squad strength.

                    Lucas

Henderson.            Gerrard

             Moses/Alberto


Effectively works similar to a 3-5-2.
3-5-2 being more beneficial given our squad strength.

will be interesting to see what happens against the toon as Lucas is now back but IMO Henderson did enough last week to not get dropped. if he goes with that formation I would choose Alberto with Moses to come on and make an impact as he's direct and fast.

I'm sure Hendo would be a star at this no.10 spot in the current formation.

I'm sure Hendo would be a star at this no.10 spot in the current formation.

its worth a shot surley he will be fired up to beat Newcastle so put him there with Gerrard and either Lucas, Alberto or even allen behind  him and tell him to go out there and have a go.

Its going to be very interesting to see who BR sticks in No 10 this weekend now that Lucas is back, will  he put hendo in there or will he put Gerrard or even Stick with Moses. Either way we have options and i'm sure will add more to it in the summer but still think its strange Alberto is not getting a shot in there after the fee we paid. 

Henderson as a "no 10"?
 
Does that mean as an attacking midfielder?
 
As if. He's a midfield runner, and that's it. He has neither the skill or the mindset to be anything other than that.

Henderson as a "no 10"?
 
Does that mean as an attacking midfielder?
 
As if. He's a midfield runner, and that's it. He has neither the skill or the mindset to be anything other than that.

you never seen the goals he has scored the lad has a very good eye for goal given the chance he take his chances very well.

you never seen the goals he has scored the lad has a very good eye for goal given the chance he take his chances very well.

and he takes freekicks for England U21 so has the ability its just unfortunite that he has Gerrard and Suarez who are world class at doing that. well its not unfoutunite for LFC but just him on a personnel point but he's learning from a legend in the middle of the park and will be on the plane with the senior team come Brazil 2014 you watch

and he takes freekicks for England U21 so has the ability its just unfortunite that he has Gerrard and Suarez who are world class at doing that. well its not unfoutunite for LFC but just him on a personnel point but he's learning from a legend in the middle of the park and will be on the plane with the senior team come Brazil 2014 you watch

Agree. I am happy with him. Hasn't done anything terribly wrong so far. If he starts every match, I am fine. I think people here just want someone else better than Jordan.

BR has some issues as when Coutinho is fully fit he starts every time as he's our only out and out No10. I think if  he's fit Henderson will get dropped and Coutinho will come in, then around 60-70min mark we might take him off for Henderson as Coutinho may be blowing a bit by then. Still think we can come away with a win as they have CL before us hopefully get some injuries.

Who is BR going to choose is Coutinho going to make the bench or will we have to wait till the Fulham game to get  him back arrrggghhh I cant cope, and the worst thing is we have to wait till around 1630pm on a sat to find out the team. I hope he starts and is then taken off if he's blowing but got a feeling now after BR comments then he might not be ready yet and he dont want to rush him back to soon. If he's not back keep the same team as we did V West Brom

I wasn't sure where to post this as there are so many midfield threads knocking about but the fact remains that our midfield does not work. One good showing last week hasn't disguised the fact that Lucas and Gerrard, alongside whoever seems to play as the third, just isn't right and as far as I can see isn't going to be.

I don't think we can improve it with the players we have as the player we are missing doesn't seem to be there so I think Brendan has a big decision to make come January time.

Brendan made the decision to offload Suso on loan hold on to his love child and leave Gerrard/Henderson/Coutinho/Alberto as his technical outlets.

Suso has more technical ability in one toe then Henderson and Allen put together doing well to prove it too 1 goal, 4 assists in ten games out of cm for Almeira.

I wasn't sure where to post this as there are so many midfield threads knocking about but the fact remains that our midfield does not work. One good showing last week hasn't disguised the fact that Lucas and Gerrard, alongside whoever seems to play as the third, just isn't right and as far as I can see isn't going to be.

I don't think we can improve it with the players we have as the player we are missing doesn't seem to be there so I think Brendan has a big decision to make come January time.

agree with your point on Gerrard and Lucas for me only one of them can play with the other one replacing when tired. I know there are loads of Lucas fans but i would drop him bring in a creative player in Jan and have Lucas as back up to Gerrard and rotate the two.