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      stuey
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      Blatter wants diving time penalty
      Jan 03, 2014 10:06:43 am
      Blatter wants diving time penalty
      Fifa president Sepp Blatter has proposed the use of a time penalty as a deterrent to diving in football.
      Blatter feels players who get treatment but are not badly injured should wait longer before being allowed to rejoin play.
      He said ''I find it deeply irritating when the half-dead player comes back to life as soon as they have left the pitch, the referee can wait until the numerical disadvantage takes effect on the game.''


      http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25586007

      He doesn't get much right but this time looks as though he's spot on.
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      Re: Blatter wants diving time penalty
      Reply #1: Jan 03, 2014 10:34:57 am
      Until the numerical disadvantage takes effect?

      Its certainly one of his better ideas but what if the team down to 10 is still dominating or whatever? Then the player wouldn't get back on the pitch. Also it wouldn't cut out diving as such, just the likes of Drogba (although not in Premiership anymore but a good example) rolling around like they've been shot and then running around again straight away. In that respect its a good idea but I doubt it would cut out the diving.
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      Reply #2: Jan 03, 2014 10:41:01 am
      Until the numerical disadvantage takes effect?

      I suppose he means when the implication of being a man short takes effect.
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      Its certainly one of his better ideas but what if the team down to 10 is still dominating or whatever? Then the player wouldn't get back on the pitch. Also it wouldn't cut out diving as such, just the likes of Drogba (although not in Premiership anymore but a good example) rolling around like they've been shot and then running around again straight away. In that respect its a good idea but I doubt it would cut out the diving.

      No way would it stop diving 100% but it would deter the more brazen attempts at cheating.
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      Re: Blatter wants diving time penalty
      Reply #3: Jan 03, 2014 10:42:30 am
      Ashley Young will be most disappointed when he reads this from Blatter.
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      Re: Blatter wants diving time penalty
      Reply #4: Jan 03, 2014 10:52:41 am
      Ashley Young will be most disappointed when he reads this from Blatter.

      Januzai would be scratching his arse on the touchline for most of the game.
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      Reply #5: Jan 03, 2014 11:39:07 am
      Stupid rule in my opinion, Ref's are like my arse for making stupid decisions, take Suarez against Chelsea for instance, blatant Penalty classed as a dive, so using that game as an example, were getting beat, chasing the game trying to get a result, Ref makes a totally baffling decision then to make matters worse, the Ref sends Suarez off the pitch until the numerical advantage takes advantage.

      Would only ever work if there was video technology backing it up.
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      Reply #6: Jan 03, 2014 12:01:33 pm
      Stupid rule in my opinion, Ref's are like my arse for making stupid decisions, take Suarez against Chelsea for instance, blatant Penalty classed as a dive, so using that game as an example, were getting beat, chasing the game trying to get a result, Ref makes a totally baffling decision then to make matters worse, the Ref sends Suarez off the pitch until the numerical advantage takes advantage.

      Would only ever work if there was video technology backing it up.

      That's where it goes tits up, Blatter was the main opponent of anything other than the referee's affected judgement, goal line tech. would still be light years away if it was left to him - his idea of improvement was more officials to make more questionable decisions.
      Blatter's basic suggestion is feasible but with tech. backing.
      Obvious cheats like Ashley and Co want F***ing off out of hand, filmed evidence could be presented to their whining, cheating managers and supporters to shut them the F**k up.
       
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      Re: Blatter wants diving time penalty
      Reply #7: Jan 03, 2014 12:02:26 pm
      For the time-wasting aspect of it, the Drogba's etc., just take timekeeping out of the ref's hands.  If the clock is stopped every time the ball isn't in play, it eradicates this kind of behaviour. 
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      Reply #8: Jan 03, 2014 12:16:10 pm
      Very very simple way of eliminating cheating. Have a panel of ex-players and refs review every game after they've been played and hand out penalties, either monetary or yellow card, for any cheating/diving. You'd soon enough eliminate it from the game.
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      Reply #9: Jan 03, 2014 12:28:10 pm
      Very very simple way of eliminating cheating. Have a panel of ex-players and refs review every game after they've been played and hand out penalties, either monetary or yellow card, for any cheating/diving. You'd soon enough eliminate it from the game.

      That process is supposedly in force now ie the officials are disciplined for a perceived bad performance, the body that monitors and makes the decisions is of course the FA, back to square 1.
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      Re: Blatter wants diving time penalty
      Reply #10: Jan 03, 2014 12:29:31 pm
      It's the same or similar idea he had to cut out faked injuries.  Now all players injured have to go off the pitch, play continues with the team whose player needed treatment being down to 10 men until the ref decides to let them back on.  As if it's not bad enough that a player is deliberately taken out of the game, the team being penalised is the innocent party.  If the player causing the injury has to go off too then that's fair.

      It's a half baked, ill thought out idea from a desperate man who, let's face it has caused more problems in the game than he's cured.

      Just accept that 'cheating' happens and bring in video technology so that the right decisions are made throughout the game so nobody benefits from it.
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      Reply #11: Jan 03, 2014 12:42:01 pm
      It's the same or similar idea he had to cut out faked injuries.  Now all players injured have to go off the pitch, play continues with the team whose player needed treatment being down to 10 men until the ref decides to let them back on.  As if it's not bad enough that a player is deliberately taken out of the game, the team being penalised is the innocent party.  If the player causing the injury has to go off too then that's fair.

      It's a half baked, ill thought out idea from a desperate man who, let's face it has caused more problems in the game than he's cured.

      Just accept that 'cheating' happens and bring in video technology so that the right decisions are made throughout the game so nobody benefits from it.

      Blatter's suggestion could be helpful Debs if the loose ends were sorted and if tech. were utilised in conjunction with official's observations, there's too much at stake to leave it to some crank who accepts unethical influence from certain teams.
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      Re: Blatter wants diving time penalty
      Reply #12: Jan 03, 2014 12:46:16 pm
      Blatter's suggestion could be helpful Debs if the loose ends were sorted and if tech. were utilised in conjunction with official's observations, there's too much at stake to leave it to some crank who accepts unethical influence from certain teams.

      That's what I meant about half baked Stuey.  The refs can't get the decision right in the first place so they give a dive instead of a foul or penalty, corruption and cheating continues.

      Give the officials the tools to do the job properly and there would be no need to worry about who's cheating  ;)
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      Re: Blatter wants diving time penalty
      Reply #13: Jan 03, 2014 01:10:04 pm
      It's already like that in South America - maybe not the whole continent, but that's how it works in Brazil, in the Copa Libertadores and, according to Quico, also in Uruguay.

      When a player is treated by medical staff, he has to leave the pitch and the referee waits a while before allowing them back to the pitch. I always found it a bit weird how in the EPL the ref allows the player back immediately.
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      Re: Blatter wants diving time penalty
      Reply #14: Jan 03, 2014 01:21:51 pm
      For the time-wasting aspect of it, the Drogba's etc., just take timekeeping out of the ref's hands.  If the clock is stopped every time the ball isn't in play, it eradicates this kind of behaviour. 

      Very very simple way of eliminating cheating. Have a panel of ex-players and refs review every game after they've been played and hand out penalties, either monetary or yellow card, for any cheating/diving. You'd soon enough eliminate it from the game.

      These two seem so logical, hard to believe this kind of thing isn't in effect already.

      To add to Rod's suggestion, I would just add that the clock be stopped after 5-6 seconds, to avoid a huge build up of extra time, but avoid abuse of time-wasting. Similar to the time a keeper has to release the ball from his hands.

      I agree with Heimdall, the only way to eradicate diving without error is to enforce punishment post-match, when the time can be taken to review fully any contraversial events.
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      Re: Blatter wants diving time penalty
      Reply #15: Jan 03, 2014 01:39:26 pm
      Yep he's right on this one , about the only decent idea he's had , now we'll see if he brings it in .
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      Re: Blatter wants diving time penalty
      Reply #16: Jan 04, 2014 01:00:50 pm
      It's already like that in South America - maybe not the whole continent, but that's how it works in Brazil, in the Copa Libertadores and, according to Quico, also in Uruguay.

      When a player is treated by medical staff, he has to leave the pitch and the referee waits a while before allowing them back to the pitch. I always found it a bit weird how in the EPL the ref allows the player back immediately.

      Further proof that the proposal is feasible.
      The FA are the obstacle to common sense solutions and are the reason for your incredulity regarding rules and regulations in the EPL. 

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