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      Dejan Lovren Player Thread

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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1740: Dec 10, 2017 05:57:18 pm
      Cost the club 5 points in his last 5 Premier League starts.  Simple as that.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1741: Dec 10, 2017 07:47:24 pm
      How he can look his team mates in the eye when he goes in to training each morning is beyond me. Must be embarrassing for the lad.

      Should have been fu**ed off a long, long time ago and he isn’t a Liverpool centre back in a million years.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1742: Dec 10, 2017 08:17:04 pm
      His positioning wasn't great at the beginning. The long ball could have been easily intercepted, but he missed the header.

      Yeah, I agree, and whilst it wasn't a pen because he dived, why did he put his hands on the back of that c**t? Initially, I didn't blame  him, but the more i think about it, the more I believe he was at fault and the reason why we conceded.
      « Last Edit: Dec 10, 2017 09:20:33 pm by PurpleMonkey »
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1743: Dec 10, 2017 09:11:18 pm
      Cost the club 5 points in his last 5 Premier League starts.  Simple as that.

      Thank you. Some savage brainless fans on this forum. They actually cheer me up with their lack of basic football knoelwdge.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1744: Dec 10, 2017 09:23:34 pm
      Cost the club 5 points in his last 5 Premier League starts.  Simple as that.

      Apart from 'that', thought he played well.
      But 'that' cost us points. Has been costing us points. And will continue to.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1745: Dec 10, 2017 11:58:22 pm
      Horrible officiating but the thing is, don’t give a bad ref an opportunity to make a bad call. Lovren should have never let that dork get behind him to start with.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1746: Dec 11, 2017 07:56:48 am
      Very, very soft penalty and I’d rather those type weren’t given - even to us - BUT it was there to be given.

      The source / origin of the mistake from Lovren is same again.......exactly like him vs Spuds and Moreno a few weeks ago.

      There’s a lot to like about his game - he’s quick enough and can pick a pass. The trouble is he just doesn’t have the concentration to play at this level without these brain farts.

      He switches off (just for a fraction) and ends up out of shape / line and then can’t resist the rush of blood to overcompensate.

      In my opinion it’s almost impossible to change how an individual reacts in that moment to a mistake. That’s complex brain wiring and driven by historical experience. You have to work on the original errors and concentration.

      That wasn’t an inch perfect pass into Calvert Lewin - ultimately it was a hopeful ball that Lovren himself made into a good ball.

      On a human level I feel for him because he seems like a decent type.

      Hopefully January brings a significant upgrade.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1747: Dec 11, 2017 08:33:18 am
      Very, very soft penalty and I’d rather those type weren’t given - even to us - BUT it was there to be given.

      The source / origin of the mistake from Lovren is same again.......exactly like him vs Spuds and Moreno a few weeks ago.

      There’s a lot to like about his game - he’s quick enough and can pick a pass. The trouble is he just doesn’t have the concentration to play at this level without these brain farts.

      He switches off (just for a fraction) and ends up out of shape / line and then can’t resist the rush of blood to overcompensate.

      In my opinion it’s almost impossible to change how an individual reacts in that moment to a mistake. That’s complex brain wiring and driven by historical experience. You have to work on the original errors and concentration.

      That wasn’t an inch perfect pass into Calvert Lewin - ultimately it was a hopeful ball that Lovren himself made into a good ball.

      On a human level I feel for him because he seems like a decent type.

      Hopefully January brings a significant upgrade.

      Completely agree his biggest criticism he just switches off an then to correct his errors just doesn't think.

      Yesterday he was ball watching and let CL get a away from him, the ball was punted up and he panicked by missing a easy clearing header and to compound it all as he was probably annoyed with himself he went up way too tight inviting the dive.

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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1748: Dec 11, 2017 04:58:28 pm
      Day yet and it seems no better!...Was going away from goal too.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1749: Dec 12, 2017 06:29:16 pm
      On a human level I feel for him because he seems like a decent type.

      Hopefully January brings a significant upgrade.

      No need to feel so much for him. He just earned a new contract and gets paid millions no matter what. Push or no push, pen or not.

      I’m sick and tired of his mistakes. Close to not wanting to see him in our shirt anymore.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1750: Dec 17, 2017 06:24:02 pm
      had a good game today.

      to be honest, apart from the everton f*ck up, he improved a lot since Spurs game. He's always going to be a 3rd choice CB for me, decent player.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1751: Dec 17, 2017 06:37:50 pm
      had a good game today.

      to be honest, apart from the everton f*ck up, he improved a lot since Spurs game. He's always going to be a 3rd choice CB for me, decent player.

      Good game indeed. That anticipation on that header was dope. For all the crap we give him surely we can give him some love today? ‘‘Tis the the season!
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1752: Dec 17, 2017 11:31:34 pm
      Bossed it today. Like, really bossed it. Scored a great goal, made no mistakes, stepped into the play with confidence.

      Promising.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1753: Dec 18, 2017 11:16:14 am
      Brave header, good goal, if only his defending was up to scratch. Although had a good game on the whole.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1754: Dec 19, 2017 05:28:02 am
      Excellent goal. That being said, he would have been at fault for Defoe's goal. So...yeah  :P
      « Last Edit: Dec 19, 2017 05:32:28 am by Flying Squirrel 39 »
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1755: Dec 19, 2017 01:56:40 pm
      Brave header, good goal, if only his defending was up to scratch. Although had a good game on the whole.

      Think he has been doing well enough in general ... apart from the odd mistake that costs us points ;)
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1756: Dec 29, 2017 01:16:55 pm
      Penny for Dejan's thoughts - he must be seeing the writing on the wall?
      Surely our first choice CB pairing - once both guys are fit and in form - is now Matip/VVD.
      And if that's the case, would he be willing to stay and fight for his place.
      At a guess I'd say he'd prefer regular first team football, and he'd probably get that, if he left and went to a mid/lower table club.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1757: Dec 29, 2017 01:30:42 pm
      Penny for Dejan's thoughts - he must be seeing the writing on the wall?
      Surely our first choice CB pairing - once both guys are fit and in form - is now Matip/VVD.
      And if that's the case, would he be willing to stay and fight for his place.
      At a guess I'd say he'd prefer regular first team football, and he'd probably get that, if he left and went to a mid/lower table club.


      He either improve or he's out. No more BS!
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1758: Dec 29, 2017 01:38:34 pm
      I think Lovren as a backup is actually a pretty good option. He has the attributes of a good CB, he's just not consistent enough, but that shouldn't be a massive issue if he's a squad option.

      That said, I think he probably won't be happy with that situation and would prefer to leave. And also, he's quite well paid to be just warming the bench.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1759: Dec 29, 2017 02:55:17 pm
      He's too inconsistent to be a regular CB. Has a commanding, solid game one week and makes individual mistakes to cost us valuable points next.

      Back up player once VDV joins. VDV and Matip should be the regular CB partnership. Not Lovren.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1760: Dec 29, 2017 11:47:30 pm
      Got to go now, this has been by far his worse season so far. He's reminded me of Skrtel in his final season with us, absolutely shocking. Lovren's performance against Spurs was the worst I have seen for the club since Skrtel came on and directly cost us 3 goals vs Saints.

      Some players just simply aren't good enough for us, Lovren is one of them.

      To think, some people had him penned as future captain...
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      Reply #1761: Dec 29, 2017 11:57:01 pm
      Got to go now, this has been by far his worse season so far. He's reminded me of Skrtel in his final season with us, absolutely shocking. Lovren's performance against Spurs was the worst I have seen for the club since Skrtel came on and directly cost us 3 goals vs Saints.

      Some players just simply aren't good enough for us, Lovren is one of them.

      To think, some people had him penned as future captain...

      More hyperbole mate.

      Surely we can discuss without resorting to "worst season so far"

      OK, it's your opinion, but let's be fair; it's also hyperbole.

      I agree with you about the "future captain stuff" though.

      Let's be honest, Lovren's biggest enemy is Lovren.
      His temperament is suspect, not his ability.
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      Reply #1762: Dec 30, 2017 12:07:32 am
      More hyperbole mate.

      Surely we can discuss without resorting to "worst season so far"

      OK, it's your opinion, but let's be fair; it's also hyperbole.

      I agree with you about the "future captain stuff" though.

      Let's be honest, Lovren's biggest enemy is Lovren.
      His temperament is suspect, not his ability.

      Funnily enough since The Spurs game he has probably been our best defender but that's the killer with Degsy just when he lulls you into a sence of security................!
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1763: Dec 30, 2017 12:07:55 am
      Surely we can discuss without resorting to "worst season so far"

      Do you disagree?
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      Reply #1764: Dec 30, 2017 12:12:20 am
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      Reply #1765: Dec 30, 2017 12:15:42 am
      Funnily enough since The Spurs game he has probably been our best defender but that's the killer with Degsy just when he lulls you into a sence of security................!

      Yeah, I'm always waiting for the f**k up, and that doesn't bother me.

      What bothers me is knowing he'll try so hard to make up for his error, that it will lead to more errors.

      If Klopp could calm him down a bit, Lovren would be a decent CB, maybe even a good one.

      But until he sorts his head out (which I doubt he can) Lovren is going to be a bit of a liability.

      Let's be fair here; he has all the tools he needs to be quality, except between the ears.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1766: Dec 30, 2017 01:31:00 am
      He will go where he belongs now, the bench.

      Decent backup but don’t want to rely on him on a regular basis.
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      Reply #1767: Dec 30, 2017 06:18:45 am
      Heard quite a few of the pundints saying the pairing will be/should be VVD and Dejan, calling Matip nothing but a VVD "light version" so don't be shocked if dejan is not on the bench but next to VVD as the preffered pairing whether we like it or not it is very possible.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1768: Dec 30, 2017 09:32:43 am
      Yeah, I'm always waiting for the f**k up, and that doesn't bother me.

      What bothers me is knowing he'll try so hard to make up for his error, that it will lead to more errors.

      If Klopp could calm him down a bit, Lovren would be a decent CB, maybe even a good one.

      But until he sorts his head out (which I doubt he can) Lovren is going to be a bit of a liability.

      Let's be fair here; he has all the tools he needs to be quality, except between the ears.

      He's decent, better than Skrtel, at least Lovren knows team work and pushes higher up instead of always dropping deep like Skrtel used to do all the time.

      Though I'm not sure he's more than a 3rd or 4th choice center back to be honest.  With VVD, I think he will get a bit better maybe because he needs a commanding CB paired with him but I don't think he will be a starter as Klopp would prefer a Matip-VVD partnership (If Matip is fit all the time that is).
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1769: Dec 30, 2017 11:39:55 am
      Given his best, unfortunately not up to standard for the Reds. Good luck to the lad where ever he eventually moves to next.

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