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      Dejan Lovren Player Thread

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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1750: Dec 17, 2017 06:24:02 pm
      had a good game today.

      to be honest, apart from the everton f*ck up, he improved a lot since Spurs game. He's always going to be a 3rd choice CB for me, decent player.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1751: Dec 17, 2017 06:37:50 pm
      had a good game today.

      to be honest, apart from the everton f*ck up, he improved a lot since Spurs game. He's always going to be a 3rd choice CB for me, decent player.

      Good game indeed. That anticipation on that header was dope. For all the crap we give him surely we can give him some love today? ‘‘Tis the the season!
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1752: Dec 17, 2017 11:31:34 pm
      Bossed it today. Like, really bossed it. Scored a great goal, made no mistakes, stepped into the play with confidence.

      Promising.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1753: Dec 18, 2017 11:16:14 am
      Brave header, good goal, if only his defending was up to scratch. Although had a good game on the whole.
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      Reply #1754: Dec 19, 2017 05:28:02 am
      Excellent goal. That being said, he would have been at fault for Defoe's goal. So...yeah  :P
      « Last Edit: Dec 19, 2017 05:32:28 am by Flying Squirrel 39 »
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      Reply #1755: Dec 19, 2017 01:56:40 pm
      Brave header, good goal, if only his defending was up to scratch. Although had a good game on the whole.

      Think he has been doing well enough in general ... apart from the odd mistake that costs us points ;)
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      Reply #1756: Dec 29, 2017 01:16:55 pm
      Penny for Dejan's thoughts - he must be seeing the writing on the wall?
      Surely our first choice CB pairing - once both guys are fit and in form - is now Matip/VVD.
      And if that's the case, would he be willing to stay and fight for his place.
      At a guess I'd say he'd prefer regular first team football, and he'd probably get that, if he left and went to a mid/lower table club.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1757: Dec 29, 2017 01:30:42 pm
      Penny for Dejan's thoughts - he must be seeing the writing on the wall?
      Surely our first choice CB pairing - once both guys are fit and in form - is now Matip/VVD.
      And if that's the case, would he be willing to stay and fight for his place.
      At a guess I'd say he'd prefer regular first team football, and he'd probably get that, if he left and went to a mid/lower table club.


      He either improve or he's out. No more BS!
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1758: Dec 29, 2017 01:38:34 pm
      I think Lovren as a backup is actually a pretty good option. He has the attributes of a good CB, he's just not consistent enough, but that shouldn't be a massive issue if he's a squad option.

      That said, I think he probably won't be happy with that situation and would prefer to leave. And also, he's quite well paid to be just warming the bench.
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      Reply #1759: Dec 29, 2017 02:55:17 pm
      He's too inconsistent to be a regular CB. Has a commanding, solid game one week and makes individual mistakes to cost us valuable points next.

      Back up player once VDV joins. VDV and Matip should be the regular CB partnership. Not Lovren.
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      Reply #1760: Dec 29, 2017 11:47:30 pm
      Got to go now, this has been by far his worse season so far. He's reminded me of Skrtel in his final season with us, absolutely shocking. Lovren's performance against Spurs was the worst I have seen for the club since Skrtel came on and directly cost us 3 goals vs Saints.

      Some players just simply aren't good enough for us, Lovren is one of them.

      To think, some people had him penned as future captain...
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      Reply #1761: Dec 29, 2017 11:57:01 pm
      Got to go now, this has been by far his worse season so far. He's reminded me of Skrtel in his final season with us, absolutely shocking. Lovren's performance against Spurs was the worst I have seen for the club since Skrtel came on and directly cost us 3 goals vs Saints.

      Some players just simply aren't good enough for us, Lovren is one of them.

      To think, some people had him penned as future captain...

      More hyperbole mate.

      Surely we can discuss without resorting to "worst season so far"

      OK, it's your opinion, but let's be fair; it's also hyperbole.

      I agree with you about the "future captain stuff" though.

      Let's be honest, Lovren's biggest enemy is Lovren.
      His temperament is suspect, not his ability.
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      Reply #1762: Dec 30, 2017 12:07:32 am
      More hyperbole mate.

      Surely we can discuss without resorting to "worst season so far"

      OK, it's your opinion, but let's be fair; it's also hyperbole.

      I agree with you about the "future captain stuff" though.

      Let's be honest, Lovren's biggest enemy is Lovren.
      His temperament is suspect, not his ability.

      Funnily enough since The Spurs game he has probably been our best defender but that's the killer with Degsy just when he lulls you into a sence of security................!
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1763: Dec 30, 2017 12:07:55 am
      Surely we can discuss without resorting to "worst season so far"

      Do you disagree?
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      Reply #1764: Dec 30, 2017 12:12:20 am
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      Reply #1765: Dec 30, 2017 12:15:42 am
      Funnily enough since The Spurs game he has probably been our best defender but that's the killer with Degsy just when he lulls you into a sence of security................!

      Yeah, I'm always waiting for the f**k up, and that doesn't bother me.

      What bothers me is knowing he'll try so hard to make up for his error, that it will lead to more errors.

      If Klopp could calm him down a bit, Lovren would be a decent CB, maybe even a good one.

      But until he sorts his head out (which I doubt he can) Lovren is going to be a bit of a liability.

      Let's be fair here; he has all the tools he needs to be quality, except between the ears.
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      Reply #1766: Dec 30, 2017 01:31:00 am
      He will go where he belongs now, the bench.

      Decent backup but don’t want to rely on him on a regular basis.
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      Reply #1767: Dec 30, 2017 06:18:45 am
      Heard quite a few of the pundints saying the pairing will be/should be VVD and Dejan, calling Matip nothing but a VVD "light version" so don't be shocked if dejan is not on the bench but next to VVD as the preffered pairing whether we like it or not it is very possible.
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      Reply #1768: Dec 30, 2017 09:32:43 am
      Yeah, I'm always waiting for the f**k up, and that doesn't bother me.

      What bothers me is knowing he'll try so hard to make up for his error, that it will lead to more errors.

      If Klopp could calm him down a bit, Lovren would be a decent CB, maybe even a good one.

      But until he sorts his head out (which I doubt he can) Lovren is going to be a bit of a liability.

      Let's be fair here; he has all the tools he needs to be quality, except between the ears.

      He's decent, better than Skrtel, at least Lovren knows team work and pushes higher up instead of always dropping deep like Skrtel used to do all the time.

      Though I'm not sure he's more than a 3rd or 4th choice center back to be honest.  With VVD, I think he will get a bit better maybe because he needs a commanding CB paired with him but I don't think he will be a starter as Klopp would prefer a Matip-VVD partnership (If Matip is fit all the time that is).
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1769: Dec 30, 2017 11:39:55 am
      Given his best, unfortunately not up to standard for the Reds. Good luck to the lad where ever he eventually moves to next.
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      Reply #1770: Dec 30, 2017 11:47:23 am
      If we also sign that young lad from Basel, Lovren's position will be a bit tricky.

      He's been a first team player at various clubs for years and will likely resent being confined to the bench. Moreover, he's supposedly making around £100k per week, which is quite expensive for a squad player, especially if you have younger talents yearning for more minutes.

      On the other hand, how many clubs can afford to pay £100k per week to their central defenders? Not many, I'd think. And out of those, which ones need or would want Lovren? None?

      So either he prefers playing regularly and is willing to take a pay cut somewhere else for that, or he becomes a somewhat "luxury" squad player.

      As much as I have criticised him multiple times, and I do think he doesn't have the mentality and concentration to play at the level we expect him to, at the same time I also think that as a squad option he would be very solid. He's decent in many things and can have the odd great match here and there. As long as we don't rely on him every week, I think we should be fine. It would just be a tad expensive backup, but if we can afford it, then fine.

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      Reply #1771: Dec 30, 2017 12:15:13 pm
      As long as we don't rely on him every week, I think we should be fine. It would just be a tad expensive backup, but if we can afford it, then fine.

      Exactly.

      Manuel Akanji looks like another Lovren-type from the limited videos i have seen of him so maybe Dejan is off.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1772: Dec 30, 2017 12:28:24 pm
      Dejan thanks for your service. Good luck and all the best. Saying bye to you prematurely. Hope it’s sooner than later. Migs will be next.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1773: Dec 30, 2017 09:08:01 pm
      Thought he played well enough today. Virgil arriving may force him to up his game.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1774: Jan 01, 2018 10:51:42 am
      Can't say he's been consistent but I've said before that he plays better as a RCB. It also helps that he hasn't had to worry about what chicken head Moreno is up to but I don't think Matip has been that great either. I'd have to say a big shout out to Klaven. Brings the ball out well, some good defencive play and 90% of the time he finds the player he's passing to.

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