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      Dejan Lovren Player Thread

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      FATKOPITE10
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      Reply #1975: Jul 15, 2018 07:57:16 pm

      Actually that's pamplona
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1976: Jul 15, 2018 08:19:45 pm
      Some heartbreak. Losing in a champions league and world cup finals in a matter of weeks.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1977: Jul 15, 2018 08:48:59 pm
      Whatever the politics, we had an LFC player in the World Cup final, playing for a team, who in my opinion, were defeated by 2 very poor refereeing decisions, which forced Croatia to change their game plan, which up till then, had France in all sorts of problems.
      Hope that ref never sees another top game. Piss poor.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1978: Jul 15, 2018 09:12:17 pm
      Whatever the politics, we had an LFC player in the World Cup final, playing for a team, who in my opinion, were defeated by 2 very poor refereeing decisions, which forced Croatia to change their game plan, which up till then, had France in all sorts of problems.
      Hope that ref never sees another top game. Piss poor.

      The refereeing throughout this tournament has been f**king abysmal and ruined the aspirations of some f**king good sides.
      An overall f**k up engineered by football's governing body entirely.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1979: Jul 15, 2018 09:58:55 pm
      You're just been a daft c**t now. The song sang as clarified was not endorsing fascism nor about such a regime.

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but the song was written by Thompson, who are a neo-fascist band that glorify the Ustashe.

      If my national team was singing "patriotic" songs written by Screwdriver, I'd be criticising them for it.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1980: Jul 15, 2018 10:08:34 pm
      Correct me if I'm wrong, but the song was written by Thompson, who are a neo-fascist band that glorify the Ustashe.

      If my national team was singing "patriotic" songs written by Screwdriver, I'd be criticising them for it.

      What's your national anthem mate?
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1981: Jul 15, 2018 10:09:06 pm
      Whatever the politics, we had an LFC player in the World Cup final, playing for a team, who in my opinion, were defeated by 2 very poor refereeing decisions, which forced Croatia to change their game plan, which up till then, had France in all sorts of problems.
      Hope that ref never sees another top game. Piss poor.
      It is harsh to blame refereeing. Lovren could have easily been sent off in the game v England. Plenty of Yellow card offenses he got away with.
      Not to mention them scoring a goal that some refs would have ruled out for dangerous play.



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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1983: Jul 16, 2018 08:48:49 pm
      What's your national anthem mate?

      God save the queen.

      And yeah, I would slag off anybody who sings it. In fact Ingerlund fans breaking out in GSTQ is probably the main thing that puts me off supporting them in those moments of weakness when I'm tempted to do so. That and the commentators.

      I'd be even more put off if it'd been written by actual fascists though.
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      Reply #1984: Jul 17, 2018 03:36:04 am
      Correct me if I'm wrong, but the song was written by Thompson, who are a neo-fascist band that glorify the Ustashe.

      If my national team was singing "patriotic" songs written by Screwdriver, I'd be criticising them for it.
      I will correct you.

      Thompson is one guy and not a band, he is not an ultra fascist that is fake news. He is known for having nationalistic views which is represented in some of his songs. However by no means is he an ultra fascist quite insulting that.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1985: Jul 17, 2018 10:02:09 am
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1986: Jul 17, 2018 12:40:54 pm
      Cracking turn out that ,they can certainly be proud of themselves.

      Half a million people.

      Amazing!
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      Reply #1987: Jul 17, 2018 09:42:30 pm

      been there in a crowd on a square. Amazing atmosphere. So proud of this team and what did they achieve.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1988: Jul 17, 2018 11:00:19 pm
      Quote from Ribapuru
      It is harsh to blame refereeing. Lovren could have easily been sent off in the game v England. Plenty of Yellow card offenses he got away with.
      Not to mention them scoring a goal that some refs would have ruled out for dangerous play.

      VAR checked it and if they thought it was dangerous, they would have had it disallowed.

      Didn't see anything wrong with it myself. The photo posted is deceptive. The ball was won cleanly, there was no contact with the defender until after the goal was scored, and even that wasn't much. So England had no case.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1989: Jul 18, 2018 07:53:11 am
      Yeah mate just seen another clip of the turn out,incredible scenes & a superb achievement.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1990: Jul 18, 2018 08:53:43 am
      VAR checked it and if they thought it was dangerous, they would have had it disallowed.



      Var is currently struggling to differentiate between it's arse and it's elbow currently
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1991: Jul 18, 2018 10:59:56 am
      VAR checked it and if they thought it was dangerous, they would have had it disallowed.

      Didn't see anything wrong with it myself. The photo posted is deceptive. The ball was won cleanly, there was no contact with the defender until after the goal was scored, and even that wasn't much. So England had no case.
      As soon as foot is above waste it is a foul if there is anybody near the foot. The photo is not deceptive, it is a photo.
      For it to be deceptive it would need to be photoshopped.
      The players protested and teh ref didn't give a flying sh*t!
      But you have to remember this ref has gave red cards to a record number of English teams in CL and not other clubs.
      One of his red cards was for a high foot by Nani.
      During the game, Croatia also kicked English players over and no free kick, then try to counter attack and almost scored.
      They also had a chance when it should have been an English throw.
      The ref was giving absolutely everything to Croatia bar a couple of very obvious fouls.
      It was not just the 50/50 decisions Croatia got it was also the 70/30 etc...
      It needed to be 90/10 before decision was Englands.
      Lovren should have been sent off, worlds best defender? No chance..
      Try that sh*t in PL and he is not finishing the 90 minutes.
      I don't like sterling, but Lovren's idea was kick him over all game and he got away with it.
      Croatia did create some good chances, but referee didn't call it down the middle.
      If we get that same referee in CL next season, don't expect anything to go our way either.
      In a game where fouls are allowed, like in WC Lovren is good.
      PL we need somebody who can win balls cleanly like VVD.

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-cup/2018/07/11/cuneyt-cakir-referee-has-sent-three-england-players-officiate/

      Gerrard, who was banned for the following game against San Marino, accused Cakir of being card happy, saying: “I don’t think there was a bad tackle in the game.”

      The referee showed Cahill a straight red card in Chelsea’s Club World Cup final defeat to Corinthians after the defender kicked out at Emerson in the final minute of the game.

      The referee’s most contentious red, however, was reserved for Nani, with Cakir provoking outrage by dismissing the winger for a waist-high challenge on Alvaro Arbeloa in United’s Champions League last-16 second-leg defeat to Real Madrid in 2013.


      If we get him in CL, Lovren is not finishing the game.
      Red for Nani, Goal for Perisic... it is BS!
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1992: Jul 23, 2018 08:10:38 pm
      I will correct you.

      Thompson is one guy and not a band, he is not an ultra fascist that is fake news. He is known for having nationalistic views which is represented in some of his songs. However by no means is he an ultra fascist quite insulting that.

      Interesting that you felt it necessary to say that Thompson isn't ultra fascist. Also - "fake news"? It's hard to think of a term that is a surer sign of somebody trying to bullshit you.

      On which note, on the very song you translated a few posts ago, Thompson traditionally starts with the slogan "Za Dom - Spremni!".

      This is the Ustashe salute from WW2. Are you going to deny that?

      ( Pretty hard to - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Za_dom_spremni - 'Za dom spremni! (lit. "For home (land) – ready!") was a salute used during World War II by the Ustaše movement. It was the Ustaše equivalent of the fascist or Nazi salute "Sieg heil".')

      Don't deny Thompson says it - its even on the lyrics eg here - https://genius.com/Marko-perkovic-thompson-bojna-cavoglave-lyrics

      Marko Perkovic Thompson is a fascist ( I'll leave you to stick an "ultra" on to that, if it makes it easier to deny it).
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      Reply #1993: Jul 23, 2018 10:30:38 pm
      Interesting that you felt it necessary to say that Thompson isn't ultra fascist. Also - "fake news"? It's hard to think of a term that is a surer sign of somebody trying to bullshit you.

      On which note, on the very song you translated a few posts ago, Thompson traditionally starts with the slogan "Za Dom - Spremni!".

      This is the Ustashe salute from WW2. Are you going to deny that?

      ( Pretty hard to - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Za_dom_spremni - 'Za dom spremni! (lit. "For home (land) – ready!") was a salute used during World War II by the Ustaše movement. It was the Ustaše equivalent of the fascist or Nazi salute "Sieg heil".')

      Don't deny Thompson says it - its even on the lyrics eg here - https://genius.com/Marko-perkovic-thompson-bojna-cavoglave-lyrics

      Marko Perkovic Thompson is a fascist ( I'll leave you to stick an "ultra" on to that, if it makes it easier to deny it).


      You're a moron.

      Don't have the time, patience, or energy to engage with you any further on this topic.

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      Reply #1994: Jul 24, 2018 05:31:59 pm
      You're a moron.

      Don't have the time, patience, or energy to engage with you any further on this topic.

      Nice refutation. Very much what I expected.

      Having no further dialogue with the likes of yourself suits me just fine. The facts are there on record, and anybody who wants to check them can do so.
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      Reply #1995: Jul 27, 2018 03:48:46 pm
      Nice refutation. Very much what I expected.

      Having no further dialogue with the likes of yourself suits me just fine. The facts are there on record, and anybody who wants to check them can do so.

      Why would anyone bother, does it really matter or change the achievement of the Croatian national football team?
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      Reply #1996: Jul 28, 2018 08:35:59 pm
      Gone and shaved his bonce

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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1997: Aug 11, 2018 02:38:14 pm
      A rumour makes waves on the internet that Lovren hid his injury from the club because he feared that we will go and buy a centre-back. If this is true, this is truly shameful from him to betray Klopp in this way, the only one who gave him confidence and backed him when everyone was blaming his displays.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1998: Aug 11, 2018 02:50:40 pm
      - I'm not training. I have problems with the abdominal muscles. The pains are unbearable, I go to the list at a specialist in the Netherlands.

      When asked when it started, he says:

      - When he started ... I was playing at the World Cup with pain, who would not play for Croatia in such a big competition? But I killed that game three times in 120 minutes. Now that everything is over, the pain is amplified. Honestly, I can not sit in the car without any pain. And worse when I leave the car, then it hurts to go crazy.

      Well, when we talked about during the World Cup in Russia, did not you once complain of pain?

      - What am I supposed to complain about? What should I say when we won, when we came to the finals? I'm not one of those who blow and pay, squeezed my teeth and played. I was silent and played, I would always do so for Croatia. Now I pay the price. But no price is too high for what we did in Russia.

      What do they say in Liverpool?

      - I think they know the answer to that question. They are not satisfied, of course they are not satisfied. I did not train since I came, I can not. Now I go to this review in the Netherlands so I'll know more after that. I have to get rid of it. I believe everything will be OK. I thought that all would calm me down during the rest, but it was not. But nothing ...

      Dejan Lovren is one of the world's best cuts, the elite, the top. The world championship was brilliant, last season was one of Liverpool's key players with which he came to the Champions League final. Of course, they get caught in the club when they hear problems. But did it just rest after the SP?

      - I was a little rested. The emphasis is on "a little". But that was not it. With all that pain, I could not rest normal. I was sick all the time. You know it, you go into the sea, you start and the pain. Not comfortable, you can not relax. Well, it looks like it's some chronic injury I definitely have to get rid of as soon as possible.

      Then we moved away from the injury, because it was not easy for him to talk about it, quite understandable. Dejan is one of those with whom you can talk about everything for a long time, an eloquent man, and when he answers short sentences, you can immediately conclude "how many hours". That's why we have come back to the past, the great times from Russia and beyond.

      https://sportske.jutarnji.hr/nogomet/reprezentacija/ekskluzivno-za-sn-dejan-lovren-u-velikom-intervjuu-najavio-novi-uzlet-hrvatske-mi-smo-jedan-od-glavnih-favorita-za-osvajanje-naslova-prvaka-europe/7711140/

      My good friend, Google translated for me.
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      Re: Dejan Lovren Player Thread
      Reply #1999: Aug 11, 2018 02:55:43 pm
      WTF is this lad doing hiding an injury from the club?

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