Joe Allen (Man Utd)

EXCLUSIVE: Manchester United weigh up SHOCK £20m move for Liverpool midfielder Joe Allen

LOUIS VAN GAAL is weighing up a shock £20m move for Liverpool star Joe Allen.  The new Manchester United boss wants to boost his ailing midfield and had Allen watched in the Reds 3-1 defeat at champions Manchester City on Monday night.

And Wales skipper Allen could be open to becoming the first Anfield player to move to Old Trafford since England international centre back Allenby Chilton 76 years ago.

Even though the 24-year-old started against City at the Etihad, Allen may feel his place in the Liverpool side is not guaranteed following a raft of signings.

Last season he was regularly subbed or left on the bench by boss Brendan Rodgers.

Allen impressed Van Gaal with an excellent performance in Wales' last game, a June World Cup 2-0 defeat by Holland in Amsterdam.


United inquired about Allen prior to him joining Liverpool two years ago but baulked at the £15m transfer fee.

But United are a club in crisis right now and badly need bolstering in midfield with new signing Ander Herrera unavailable, along with Marouane Fellaini and Michael Carrick - all three suffering with foot/ankle injuries.

It is understood Van Gaal does not feel Darren Fletcher and Tom Cleverley are the players to take United forward and has asked chief executive Ed Woodward to look at bringing in Allen.

A move from Liverpool to United would be bound to cause a big fuss in Merseyside.

Striker Michael Owen was given a tough reception by a section of fans when he played for United at his former club Liverpool, having starred for Real Madrid and Newcastle in between.

Only five Liverpool players have ever been transferred to United - Tom Chorlton (1912), Tom Miller (1920), Tommy Reid (1929), Ted Savage (1938) and Chilton.
 

I know it's not likely, but I'd take £20m for Joe.   

£40m. They'd probably do that.

Stopped reading at "Liverpool star" though.

April Fools! Oh wait...

Allen has improved recently and the situation may continue......
While typing a balanced response a voice at the back of my brain is screaming ''tear their F***ing hands off''.

Think that would be a good deal for us, to let him go tbh !

F**k that hes a red.. wouldnt sell him over to better that sinking ship lot. Mind you I wouldnt sell Konchesky to that lot either, who would also improve their current squad.

20M is great, just not to that lot. Cant see Brendan selling his Welsh Xavi either.

Could offer 40mill and still wouldn't want us to sell to them

I don't believe any of this sh*t

If I was Ayre I would open talks until deadline day then say at about 9pm, nah - not for sale - thus wasting their time and resources.

However not one quote and the article and 'its understood' is the only link - but I guess they need to sell papers...

If I was Ayre I would open talks until deadline day then say at about 9pm, nah - not for sale - thus wasting their time and resources.

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That is the way to go, why would we deal with those tw*ts anyway=remember the Heinz situation.

Rodgers won't sell Allen, especially to the scum. This is the most ridiculous made up transfer gossip I've read all window.

50 million, they've overpaid for everyone else in this window they can do it again.

wouldn't sell them the steam off my p*ss

"Liverpool Star  " That shows how sh*te the article is 

He would improve them dramatically, for that reason I'm out....

He actually would look like Xavi in that team.

No NO NO NO
 to  those not even voronin without the pony tail  for 10M

 

YNWA

I wouldn't sell him at all never mind to them as I think he is good enough for our team and we need to hold this squad of players together.

Not a chance in hell and if FSG sanction a move there will be a hell of a sh*t storm.Anyone remember Ferguson and the outrage he had when we tried to sign the Argentinian fullback.F**k them I hope they implode and go bust

Maybe we can let them have Lucas,  Borini and Johnson too.

I know it's not likely, but I'd take £20m for Joe.   

I thought he improved things when he came on against Southampton.

We don't sell to United.  Ever!!

This (edited)

Could offer any amount and still wouldn't want us to sell to them

Not a chance. Not for 50 million. They need him more than they need Di Maria

Not a chance. Not for 50 million. They need him more than they need Di Maria

Seriously?

the guy is so average, not only would we somehow get 20 million for him but we will also give them a player who will do a worse job torres did at chelsea....

Allen is starting games for us. And is doing well enough. So would not sell.

Seriously?

the guy is so average, not only would we somehow get 20 million for him but we will also give them a player who will do a worse job torres did at chelsea....

Allen has ability, has started the season in good form, and like Hendo got last season he should be given a chance to prove himself this season.

I'd much rather keep him.

Worst transfer gossip all year? Why on earth would we sell one of our usual 18 to United? hahaha

Beyond that, we shouldn't be looking to sell Allen. Tidy player, probably our best midfielder vs City, changed the game vs Southampton. Showing signs of good form like he did when we first bought him. Great player to have in the squad.

Worst transfer gossip all year? Why on earth would we sell one of our usual 18 to United? hahaha

Beyond that, we shouldn't be looking to sell Allen. Tidy player, probably our best midfielder vs City, changed the game vs Southampton. Showing signs of good form like he did when we first bought him. Great player to have in the squad.

Agree TRM.

We have to keep this squad together and build on it like we have done this summer.

Agree TRM.

We have to keep this squad together and build on it like we have done this summer.

Would you still be of the same opinion if the sale of Joe meant that we could bring in Pogba, Vidal or some other top player?

Would you still be of the same opinion if the sale of Joe meant that we could bring in Pogba, Vidal or some other top player?

Interesting question mate.

I like Joe. Always have done but if I knew for a fact that if we sold him we'd buy Pogba then it's obviously a no brainer.

I don't see that happening however and with a big season ahead I think Joe will have his part to play.

If we could get a really top midfielder (Pogba etc), I'd drive Allen to that grotty mill town personally..

With Pogba, I'd still be wondering about the post Luis gap, but we'd really get a boost in the middle of the pitch.

I don't get this best midfielder business, when he came on against Southampton or versus Man City.  He flattered to decieve and he certainly decieved a fair amount of people.  If we had a replacement lined up, I'd certainly entertain bids of £20m plus.

How desperate are they?

I like little Joe by the way, but they've gone through a truly desperate summer. All of their signings were severely overpriced and now they're looking for a Liverpool squad player? Haha!

I still wouldn't sell to them for any sum of money, I remember they refused letting go of Heinze for us

Interesting question mate.

I like Joe. Always have done but if I knew for a fact that if we sold him we'd buy Pogba then it's obviously a no brainer.

I don't see that happening however and with a big season ahead I think Joe will have his part to play.

I just get the feeling Brendan would like a midfield addition, hence the rumoured loan/sale of Lucas and now the unlikely rumour about Allen. I think we still have money in the pot for the right player but maybe not room in the squad unless we sell ?

Perhaps their reasoning is that they've got quite a few physical type players - Rooney, Van P upfront, plus their midfielders.

Allen would give them a bit of fluidity and sharp short range passing, when power/steel isnt that important.
We're actually a little bit the other way - we lack a bit of bite sometimes in the midfield.

No brainer. If this is true, he should be aready at the scum...

No brainer, Owen should have got a good reception when he visited playing for Utd!

Personally, I wouldn't give them the sh*t on Joe Allen's boots for 20m, but everyone to their own!

No brainer, Owen should have got a good reception when he visited playing for Utd!

You can't be serious. Please tell me you are joking.

Would you still be of the same opinion if the sale of Joe meant that we could bring in Pogba, Vidal or some other top player?

Oh... Oh... Can I play?

What about -  Would you be of the same opinion if the sale of Joe meant we would bring in Poulsen or Anderson? 

Personally, I wouldn't give them the sh*t on Joe Allen's boots for 20m, but everyone to their own!

If we could get a really top midfielder (Pogba etc), I'd drive Allen to that grotty mill town personally..

I'm torn between these two. I don't want us to do anything to help those fuckers, but if we can improve our own team (with a better player) then that is probably what I would opt for.

You can't be serious. Please tell me you are joking.

Make that all of us.

They're free to buy him for a good price, Allen supported Man U growing up and it may be something he wants. I haven't got a problem with it, I should have because it's Man U.
It's up to the player here because he mightn't figure a lot for us.

You can't be serious. Please tell me you are joking.

It was only an instinctive response to the poster above mine.   Can't stand Owen.  But this had nothing to do with that.  At the end of the day if someone is willing to sell them a player then there should be nothing wrong with that player having a good game against us or more so scoring the winning goal.  In fact if one is willing to sell that player in my opinion, however subjective it is.  If the player going which in this case in Joe Allen, if he scored the winning goal or made that significant contribution, deserves to be applauded by that same fan that wanted the move to happen.  Just my opinion. 

We can't open the door of transfers to them scum bags.   It has been closed for generations.  Once it opens then you can't just close it at will.   They won't sell to us and we shouldn't sell to them. 

We've only just strengthened our squad,  why would we weaken it again by helping out our fiercest rivals?  Never going to happen.

That said £20 million could buy a better player than Allen, if the money was made available.

wash your mouths out and beg for mercy if you even thought for the slightest second that we could sell anyone to the SCUM

Oh... Oh... Can I play?

What about -  Would you be of the same opinion if the sale of Joe meant we would bring in Poulsen or Anderson? 

Well, Poulsen was thought to be an adequate replacement for Mascherano and Anderson good enough to replace Roy Keane.... surely they should be good enough to replace Allen?

I would only sell any player if the player being brought in was much better. I think the days of wash, mix and match players of very similar ability should be behind us now that the squad is of a reasonable size.

All about quality now in my opinion.   

Yep, the idea of wasting their time and resources and sending them on a wild goose chase is the best option!

Other than that, the only thing I would sell to them is cluster bombs so they can put themselves out of their own misery.

If we were guaranteed a good replacement of the quality of a Pogba, I'd be fine with him going, however, I do not believe 20mil is over-paying for Allen, particularly in this market. He is seriously under rated here.

So I take it that people are happy with selling UTD a player that would improve them...WTF.

So I take it that people are happy with selling UTD a player that would improve them...WTF.

Its all about balance. If doing so would improve us by a greater margin I would be fine with it. Relatively that would mean united become weaker compared to us. I'd rather we both get stronger, if we got stronger by a larger margin, than us to stand still and United to get weaker
Obviously this transfer rumour is BS, and even if it did happen we would be unlikely to get Pogba or Vidal - but on those hypotheticals I wouldn't say no.

Also this is coming from someone who wants to punch a lot of people in the face for the stupid sh*t they say about Allen.

So I take it that people are happy with selling UTD a player that would improve them...WTF.

I don't think he would, a centre midfield of him and Herrera would be hilarious.

The story's BS, I find it odd so many are getting wound up at a little what if...

If that place was on fire, I wouldn't sell them my piss to put it out.

Now the opening post has no link!


http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/396446/EXCLUSIVE-Manchester-United-weigh-up-SHOCK-20m-move-for-Liverpool-midfielder-Joe-Allen

Daily Star and the word exclusive usually (always) means made up sh*te.


Yes Joe is going to move to a club with no League Cup Football, (and no European Football) isn't he?

Its all about balance. If doing so would improve us by a greater margin I would be fine with it. Relatively that would mean united become weaker compared to us. I'd rather we both get stronger, if we got stronger by a larger margin, than us to stand still and United to get weaker
Obviously this transfer rumour is BS, and even if it did happen we would be unlikely to get Pogba or Vidal - but on those hypotheticals I wouldn't say no.

Do you understand anything of the history of this club WE DONT SELL TO THE SCUM.F**k balance dear god what the F**k is going on.

Do you understand anything of the history of this club WE DONT SELL TO THE SCUM.F**k balance dear god what the F**k is going on.

We have done, rarely in the past, but largely with players who have a derivative of Thomas as their Christian name. 

Last player we sold them was before the Second World War.


DS data.
Only five Liverpool players have ever been transferred to United - Tom Chorlton (1912), Tom Miller (1920), Tommy Reid (1929), Ted Savage (1938) and Chilton.

Do you understand anything of the history of this club WE DONT SELL TO THE SCUM.F**k balance dear god what the F**k is going on.

Is right.

Remember the Gabriel Heinz saga?

They can go and do one.... unless....

We don't sell to the scum?

Another mindset purely dictated by emotions. Why can we not sell to the scum? It's not like it's Sterling or Sturridge who we're are selling. It'd be illogical to not sell Allen to United because we simply do not like them. If the transfer was to benefit us, wouldn't then selling to them be the logical choice?

F**k the rivalry, we'd be mugging them off with £20m coming our way for Joe Allen. It's never going to happen though. Bullshit rumours!

one of the worst transfer rumors in years.

So I take it that people are happy with selling UTD a player that would improve them...WTF.

Not me Walt.

I can see the point in selling Allen if it meant we signed someone like Pogba as Saint said but I wouldn't sell to that lot. Especially a player I rate such as Allen.

We don't sell to the scum?

Another mindset purely dictated by emotions. Why can we not sell to the scum? It's not like it's Sterling or Sturridge who we're are selling. It'd be illogical to not sell Allen to United because we simply do not like them. If the transfer was to benefit us, wouldn't then selling to them be the logical choice?
   
F**k the rivalry, we'd be mugging them off with £20m coming our way for Joe Allen. It's never going to happen though. Bullshit rumours!

If we are to go on to the next level Joe could very well have to make way, if this suggestion has any legs I would agree with the above comment. We would not be letting an established star go to a rival, as was the case with Hienz but making money on a relatively unproven player.
All hypothetical of course with no substance whatever.

Is right.

Remember the Gabriel Heinz saga?

They did us a favour, that guy was garbage!

They did us a favour, that guy was garbage!

yes he was but I bet Rafa really enjoyed getting under Ferguson's skin for a change

They did us a favour, that guy was garbage!

Even 'tho he played for the sh*te the lad was a good defender, he played to a ripe old age I believe.

This would be stupid. Joe Allen is a good player, fighting for a regular starting 11 place. Him to the mancs would INSTANTLY improve them while undermining our squad. This is borne out of stupidity.

We don't sell to the scum?

Another mindset purely dictated by emotions. Why can we not sell to the scum? It's not like it's Sterling or Sturridge who we're are selling. It'd be illogical to not sell Allen to United because we simply do not like them. If the transfer was to benefit us, wouldn't then selling to them be the logical choice?

F**k the rivalry, we'd be mugging them off with £20m coming our way for Joe Allen. It's never going to happen though. Bullshit rumours!

ladies and gentlemen, the typical fairweather american teenager.

The simple logic I would follow is: If Utd want to buy any of our players, that shows a need. Why would we satisfy any 'need' for Utd?

Let's compromise - sell them Joan Allen for £30m

Those soft f#ckers wouldn't know the difference!

It is never going to happen, but my view is that we do whatever is best for LFC and F**k the mancs. If it is better for Liverpool to sell Allen to the mancs... sell him. Certainly there would have to be a premium on what we could get for him elsewhere even then.

Outrageous rumour this. Never going to happen because neither side would be interested.

I would only sell any player if the player being brought in was much better. I think the days of wash, mix and match players of very similar ability should be behind us now that the squad is of a reasonable size.

All about quality now in my opinion.

Amen to that brother s@int.

Its called history and it has as much to do with the city as it does with the club. Have some respect for those of us who actually understand why the hatred is so deep.

Can't believe this thread is 3 pages in over 1 bullshit rumour!

This needs to be locked up. Liverpool will be ofloading Lucas and Borini before even thinking about upgrading Allen. Liverpool would never sell Allen to United. I doubt Allen would want to give up on the first chance he gets of playing Real Madrid in the Champions league at Bernabeu and Anfield.

Do you understand anything of the history of this club WE DONT SELL TO THE SCUM.f**k balance dear god what the f**k is going on.

If it would make us better by a greater margin relative to them, than not selling, it would be stupid not to. I don't believe this transfer meets that criteria, but say for arguments sake it did, we would be making them worse, relative to us. Seems good to me.