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      Pre-Match: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Nov 28, 2014 06:01:46 pm
      Stoke have not won at Anfield since a 4-3 victory in a Division Two match on 20 March 1959. They have never won a top-flight game away to Liverpool.

      Liverpool have lost one of their last seven league and cup games against Stoke (W4, D2).

      The Potters have failed to score in their last eight league matches at Anfield.

      The last time they netted a league goal away to Liverpool was in a 5-1 defeat on 5 March 1983, in Bob Paisley's final season in charge of the Reds.


      Expecting a tough a tough game tomorrow from the tallest football team in Europe against our midget midfield.
      We stopped the rot on Wednesday and with a bit more confidence should have held out for a win

      I would like to see

                                                       Jones

                                  Manky       Toure       Sakho       Moreno

               
                                                       Lucas
                                                                Allen
                                                   Hendo
       
                                                        Coutinho

                                                                      Sterling
                                                         Lambert



      But Gerrard will always be picked and Sakho is probably not match fit then Lovren to partner Toure and Gerrard in Coutinho's spot.

      Going for a nervy 2-1 because we are certs to gift a goal away.
                                               

                                       


      « Last Edit: Nov 29, 2014 01:43:14 pm by JD »
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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #1: Nov 28, 2014 06:13:26 pm
      Since when Toure is a key player for us ? He made a good game against Real, but that's it, in Bulgaria he looked out of his depth, and overreliance on him will cost us dearly. Brendan should start with Lovren and Sakho in the centre of defence.

      I'm hoping i wont see Allen in the starting eleven, he brings almost nothing to our team.

      The starting eleven should look like this : Jones/Mignolet - Johnson - Lovren - Sakho - Moreno - Can - Henderson - Coutinho - Lallana - Sterling - Lambert

      And yes i picked Johnson because Manquillo offers almost nothing upfront, Glen with all his defensive problems is better going forward, and when we play at home he should be used instead of Manquillo, mainly when we play against weaker opposition.

      Jones should get his chance, even though he is no better than Mignolet, maybe the belgian needs some time off, i'm not sure, maybe he should start one final game to prove he deserves to be a first team starter, i don't trust Jones very much but that's it.

      Markovic should be on the bench and given some minutes, keeping him frozen out wouldnt help him.
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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #2: Nov 28, 2014 06:15:10 pm
      Do we look forward in hope or trepidation ?

      Has to be hope.

      We go again.

      YNWA


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      " Thats where their season was built".
      « Last Edit: Nov 28, 2014 07:11:59 pm by eurored »
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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #3: Nov 28, 2014 06:31:02 pm
                               Mignolet
            Manquillo  Skrtel    Toure    Moreno (If not fit, Johnson)
                                Lucas
                        Henderson Can
                                Coutinho
                         Sterling   Lambert
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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #4: Nov 28, 2014 06:35:43 pm
      I was beginning to wonder if we actually had a match tomorrow!
      We've been saying it for a few weeks now, but we do really need a result to try and kick start our season.
      Feeling nervous, which is the norm this season, sadly. A win will help to lift all our spirits and hopefully give the lads a confidence boost.
      1-0 and 3 points will do very nicely, hopefully onwards and upwards!
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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #5: Nov 28, 2014 08:00:23 pm
      I reckon it'll be a bore draw with loads of booing at the final whistle.

      In am ideal world I'd like to see us tonk them 4-0 but where are the goals or even chances going to come from? Will be difficult.
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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #6: Nov 28, 2014 08:01:10 pm
      Were sh*te but I fooking love us and am backing the boys to get it right this weekend.

      3 points but not won easily. What the lads need is the crowd backing everything they do from a 2 yard pass to a crunching tackle to winning a fooking throw get in behind the lads on show them that were still here we haven't gone away we still believe in them. Because the doubts about  that might be creeping in

      And after YNWA the best thing we could hear would be BRENDAN RODGERS...lift them all

      Come on Reds!
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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #7: Nov 28, 2014 08:26:46 pm
      look forward in hope or trepidation ?

      Or look into a pint?

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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #8: Nov 28, 2014 08:52:58 pm
      I'm having a hard time picking a starting XI. I legitimately don't think we have 11 players who deserve to start. Jesus Christ how did things get so bad so soon?

      If Sakho is fit, straight back into the team he goes.
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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #9: Nov 28, 2014 08:54:49 pm
      Stoke. Set pieces, big lads causing a bit of mayhem - doesn't take much to make me nervous these days.
      Is Mario available for this one? Though I guess hard to drop Rickie who, with 2 goals in two games, is our current goal scoring machine.
      Wouldn't it be great to go 2 goals up, how amazing would that be! Could almost relax. Though would take 4 for that I think.
      I'll settle for the ball ricocheting of Rickie's arse and rolling in after a 1-0 snorefest. We need points.
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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #10: Nov 28, 2014 09:05:31 pm
      Stoke. Set pieces, big lads causing a bit of mayhem - doesn't take much to make me nervous these days.
      Is Mario available for this one? Though I guess hard to drop Rickie who, with 2 goals in two games, is our current goal scoring machine.
      Wouldn't it be great to go 2 goals up, how amazing would that be! Could almost relax. Though would take 4 for that I think.
      I'll settle for the ball ricocheting of Rickie's arse and rolling in after a 1-0 snorefest. We need points.

      No Mario, apparently, but even if he was available I'd vote for Lambert, as he's our inform striker!
      A 1-0 coming off any part of anybody's anatomy would be just fine! God, do we sound desperate!

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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #11: Nov 28, 2014 09:35:20 pm
      I don't even get excited about our games anymore. I'm worn down. To go from the breathtaking highs of our performances last season to the dire lows this season. Feel deflated. I just wish we can find our spark again.
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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #12: Nov 28, 2014 09:58:23 pm
      I don't even get excited about our games anymore. I'm worn down. To go from the breathtaking highs of our performances last season to the dire lows this season. Feel deflated. I just wish we can find our spark again.

      Just one amazing win where we don't concede from a F***ing set piece and score some worldie goals.

      Please God let it happen this F***ing weekend!!!!
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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #13: Nov 28, 2014 10:02:07 pm
      I'd like to see...

      Mignolet

      Manquillo - Skrtel - Toure - Moreno

      Lucas

      Henderson - Allen

      Coutinho - Lambert - Sterling
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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #14: Nov 28, 2014 10:04:06 pm
      I reckon it'll be a bore draw with loads of booing at the final whistle.

      In am ideal world I'd like to see us tonk them 4-0 but where are the goals or even chances going to come from? Will be difficult.

      Yea... Seems like ages ago when we last played them and Ali Cissoko got that deflected opener and we went on to beat them with power,attacking flare and laughter.. we we're beating teams for a laugh back then with a "if you score one we'll score three" attitude..
      Our games would end with a standing ovation... home or away..
      We had SAS then...
      now we don't...
      So if we do get booed off the pitch tomorrow after another horrendous performance the vultures will start to circle in numbers..
      Man City and Arsenal's woe's have taken the headlines more so than us recently but they have both made up for it with mid week wins in CL so we really do need to smash Stoke in to next week..

      Spoke to a Stoke fan earlier this week and he's well confident of a result..
      "You lot are sh*t at crosses in to your own box..you have no one who takes control and a sh*t goalkeeper"
      "We'll just keep pinging them high in to the box"
      I had a go back at him like but it was hard to believe that the same lad went into hiding after the last game...ha !

      Seriously though.. for me.. its the next game in a long season.. forget about Weds result ,lets get a convincing home win under our belts and try and get some sanity back in to the club...

      3-1 home win... eventually...


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      Reply #15: Nov 29, 2014 12:39:52 am
      Off to bed as I'm up early for the game....the atmosphere is gonna be crap on the Kop tomorrow...end of November and playing Stoke  :( just hoping for a win....1-0 will do me, dont care who plays or who scores, just a win please....and 3 points xxx

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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #16: Nov 29, 2014 12:48:51 am
      For the 3rd week running I'm going to say: I'd like to see us play 2 up top.

      There's too much work for Lambert to do up top on his own. He showed that against Ludogorets, he got worn out with about half hour to go because he was trying to do too much chasing. I'm not at all confident about this game, any confidence I did have was lost in mid week when we failed to get the points against Ludogorets of all teams.
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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #17: Nov 29, 2014 12:59:42 am
      Going for a 1-1 draw today.... just watch the bas**rds thrash Stoke now just to spite me :)

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      Reply #18: Nov 29, 2014 01:01:45 am
      Can't see any clean sheet, but 2-1 will be the score.
      Fancy Lambert to score again to make it 3 in a row.

      Good luck reds!
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      Reply #19: Nov 29, 2014 02:12:31 am
      I'll be drinking in a pub over here in Delaware, USA with my fellow supporters cheering on the boys . Hoping for an absolute slaughter , but I think it'll be a 3-1 win .

      Allen doesn't need to see time , Toure and Sahko should start with Moreno and Manquillo . Can , Lallana , Cout , Sterling need to keep up the pace . Will we see Borini ? Ricky and Hendo contributing and creating some offense is key . Stevie should come on at 65 minutes up to create whatever he can (but we all know that probably won't happen). Overall the faith and confidence needs to be up.

      It's good to be back home.

      YNWA
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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #20: Nov 29, 2014 07:08:17 am
      Just leaving for the game got my nephew With me today whisper it quietly he,s never seen us lose and he,s been to a lot of games. COYR.
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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #21: Nov 29, 2014 07:30:07 am
      Were sh*te but I fooking love us and am backing the boys to get it right this weekend.

      3 points but not won easily. What the lads need is the crowd backing everything they do from a 2 yard pass to a crunching tackle to winning a fooking throw get in behind the lads on show them that were still here we haven't gone away we still believe in them. Because the doubts about  that might be creeping in

      And after YNWA the best thing we could hear would be BRENDAN RODGERS...lift them all

      Come on Reds!

       ;D ;D Thumbs up mate,thatĀ“s what we need,what we can give.
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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #22: Nov 29, 2014 07:32:39 am
      Jones
      Manquillo - Skrtel - Sakho - Moreno
      Lucas - Can
      Sterling - Coutinho - Lallana
      Lambert

      If Sakho is fit that is...
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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #23: Nov 29, 2014 08:16:14 am
      Reading Brian78Ā“s post I feel re-invigorated with faith and belief.If we didnĀ“t have players that have shown consistent quality in the past I would not bother to hope.But I just feel in a "blank-slate" state of mind.And thatĀ“s where the players and everyone should be.LetĀ“s play Stoke like we would play Stoke.We canĀ“t think of the inmediate past or it will crush us.IĀ“m gonna watch this game as if it was the 1st of the season.Gonna mute it to avoid the negativism (reality).

      Whoo...what a rush of postitivism and suspension-of-disbielief.Ok,so hereĀ“s my take on what I think we should field and why:

      Mignolet:(Awful dip in form and confidence,true.I believe we must stand by him to help him regain it,at least for the near future/December)

      Moreno,Lovren,Sakho,Manquillo: If Sakho not fit Skrtel.Sorry,IĀ“rather bet on a solid performance by Lovren or much less convinced but still with Skrtel than bet on Toure,100%.

      Lucas: CanĀ“t believe I said it,but we need backup for defense.DonĀ“t sit him too deep though,we canĀ“t have anyone in midfield doing strictly defense.An outlet.

      Sterling,Lallana,Gerrard,Coutinho: Sterling is always a threat.He was blocked past games but calling for the removal of our most energetic attacking threat is over-reacting.Most have been ineffective,not all have tried.The whole damn time.If anything we should be able to call in Markovic but no idea whatĀ“s going on there.If we canĀ“t trust Lallana to start against Stoke after sitting against CP and Ludo,something is seriously wrong.Throw the boy out there,give him a go. Gerrard will come good,but not if we stick him back there.Unleash him.Only reason for sitting him for me would be to rest him.I trust our Captain.

      Lambert: Have Sterling feed him passes and crosses.Adam and Stevie feed him via the center.Coutinho from center-left and further up.

      If I see Lucas and Allen both start and no Coutinho to make up for speed and attack... :f_doh:

      Anyhow,godspeed Liverpool!  ;)
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      Reply #24: Nov 29, 2014 11:04:31 am
      Were sh*te but I fooking love us and am backing the boys to get it right this weekend.

      3 points but not won easily. What the lads need is the crowd backing everything they do from a 2 yard pass to a crunching tackle to winning a fooking throw get in behind the lads on show them that were still here we haven't gone away we still believe in them. Because the doubts about  that might be creeping in

      And after YNWA the best thing we could hear would be BRENDAN RODGERS...lift them all

      Come on Reds!

      Well said Brian, everyone to a man needs to get behind Brendan and the lads including those on these boards, it's times like this when we find who the real supporters are...

      WE GO AGAIN.!!!!

      YNWA
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      Reply #25: Nov 29, 2014 11:34:26 am
      Off to bed as I'm up early for the game....the atmosphere is gonna be crap on the Kop tomorrow...end of November and playing Stoke  :( just hoping for a win....1-0 will do me, dont care who plays or who scores, just a win please....and 3 points xxx



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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #26: Nov 29, 2014 12:01:46 pm
      Jones
      Moreno, Skrtel, Sakho (or Toure), Manquillo
      Lucas, Can, Henderson
      Lallana, Sterling
      Rickie 'The Goal Machine' Lambert

      And after YNWA the best thing we could hear would be BRENDAN RODGERS

      How about 'WE ARE LIVERPOOL!' instead?
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      Reply #27: Nov 29, 2014 12:08:18 pm
      29/11/14

      Our season starts here
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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #28: Nov 29, 2014 12:32:00 pm
      we are playing at home so I would go with 2 strikers, be it be Lambert/Borini, Lambert or any one playing beside him with gerrard behind the 2
       Lucas is a must start for me, (but doubt it will happen and replace allen)
      don't believe we will be a much defensive  minded line-up- playing at home,BUT seeing l;ast few weeks performances I will not take that for granted
       Christ ,we are a 'bit' afraid playing stoke at home, how did we came to this after last season performances is beyond me

       we have to be optimistic before every game
       Come ON reds

      YNWA
           
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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #29: Nov 29, 2014 12:37:51 pm
                                Jones
          Manquillo Toure Skrtel Moreno
                    Henderson  Lucas
                               Gerrard
            Markovic.                  Lallana
                              Lambert

      Bench ; Mignolet, Lovren, Enrique, Can, Sterling, Coutinho, BorinI

      Gerrard for a hour, Coutinho to come on, depending on Lazar if he's doing well leave him on if not Sterling gets a run, Can on for either Henderson or Lucas for fresh legs,
      Fabio for Ricky last 20,...

      That's how I'd set about the stokies, f***in hate this lot,

      Love us to dominate  :f_tongueincheek:, and play free flowing in your face football,  but in all honesty I'd settle for a scrappy 1_0 own goal, clean sheet trouncing  ;D

      YNWA
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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #30: Nov 29, 2014 12:43:50 pm
      Sorry to say but if Warnock, Pardew and the others can outwit our genius, then Mark Hughes will have an absolute breeze. Stoke are coming for a win and will probably get it.

      F***ing hope we beat the Aussies otherwise this will be the umpteenth sh*te sporting weekend in a row.
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      Reply #31: Nov 29, 2014 01:15:30 pm





      Anfield getting ready, looks like a murky day in L4
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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #32: Nov 29, 2014 01:34:32 pm
      Surely got to rest Gerrard for this one.

      Jones; Manquillo, Toure, Sakho (or Skrtel), Moreno; Can, Henderson; Sterling, Coutinho, Lallana; Lambert.

      Absolute must win this otherwise the pressure really will be building on Brendan.
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      Reply #33: Nov 29, 2014 01:35:25 pm
      We have to win... I don't even want to think about what the forums, media, fans will be like if we lose, or even draw this... there's a chance, samll chance that if everything goes wrong today, we could end the day in 17th place...

      I'm gonna go for a scrappy 2-1.
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      Re: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #34: Nov 29, 2014 01:42:54 pm
      I have just gone for a 2 1 win for the Reds in the Prediction League. Sincerely hope that we bag all three points, to kick start our season.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #35: Nov 29, 2014 01:49:49 pm





      Anfield getting ready, looks like a murky day in L4

      It's a murkier day in L26 mate.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #36: Nov 29, 2014 01:55:31 pm
      We still believe.



      ( Pre match thread is thin ....  )
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #37: Nov 29, 2014 01:56:29 pm
      We still believe.



      ( Pre match thread is thin ....  )

      Very thin mate.... where is everyone ....shopping?


                                  Mignolet

      Manquillo         Skrtel       Lovren          Moreno

                                Can     Lucas

                                  Coutinho

                Lallana         Lambert        Sterling
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #38: Nov 29, 2014 01:59:17 pm
      Nah I ain't gone shopping. I still believe, I believe in the manager and many of the "flop" players. I think we'll win today and still comfortably make the top four.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #39: Nov 29, 2014 02:00:23 pm


      Wow...
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Stoke Saturday 29 Nov 3.00pm
      Reply #40: Nov 29, 2014 02:03:12 pm
      Well at least I got the team right  :lmao:

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